Flying wyvern ecology : Tigrex in Monster Hunter

At long last the flagship of MHF2 and this channel is brought up for analysis. Why is he so loud, what's the deal with his ranging and what does he eat? Watch on to find out more.
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[@reaper4812]

“Few things in a volcano probably live at especially high densities, except for Bullfango on powder stone carrying missions.” Delivered with that serious, collected monotone got a very solid chuckle out of me.

[@nicholasmascitelli8129]

I think the reframing of the discussion from “we need new monsters” to “we need new biomes” is a great point. Of course we’re going to be seeing similar, if not the same monsters over and over again on our fifth tropical jungle map. But an environment we haven’t seen before naturally would mean we encounter new monsters as well as the potential of new variations of existing ones.

[@unicorntomboy9736]

We need underwater environments. That way it will allow whole new monster designs that are not possible otherwise (think of a giant Shark-like large monster). Imagine an entire map that is a vast underwater cave network or some underwater ruins of a lost city like the legend of Atlantis. That is something we desperately need for the series

[@sanguineregis5354]

Similarily, a deep cave biome would be neat. As for why it exists, its a biome made by the caves created by the various burrowing elder dragons and other monsters in addition to your more traditional erosion

[@Gohma55]

@@sanguineregis5354 Caverns of El Dorado is such a cool concept.

[@sanguineregis5354]

@@Gohma55 it is but the caverns are too specific to Kulve Taroth and still near the surface. What im thinking of is a cave system so deep no sunlight exists anywhere and the only light comes from a combination of unique glowing ore veins and the glowing fungi that feeds on the ore. Toss in some subteranean rivers and lakes alongside a few magma flows and it could be truly alien. Similarily an arctic volcano where the outer regions are freezing clld and the deepest regions boiling hot would be neat.

[@Giganotus]

@@unicorntomboy9736 Third gen did that. Unfortunately people didn't like the underwater controls (they weren't the best but they could've been worse). There were a lot of cool monster designs in third gen

[@Krumpins]

Tigrex is the perfect example of how a simple monster can still be amazing: no elements, no anime transformation, no supernova, and it doesn't have a million different unnecessary weapons covering its body. It just has a cool design, great theme music and a fun; satisfying fight and that is all it needs.

[@unnaturalhistorychannel]

My thoughts exactly!

[@draw2death421]

'No Anime transformation' Wasent Tigrex the first Monster who did the whole Glowing Veins thing? So didint he kinda start the whole anime transformation thingy?

[@DarkestImperator]

​@@draw2death421 I want to believe that Rajang was the pioneer of this trend. Just because his rage form is more flashy.

[@draw2death421]

@@DarkestImperator hmm... mayby. Tho tbf. Rajang is suposed to be a anime refrence. Hes refrencing super sayians from dragon ball z but yeah he probably was the more likely start.

[@lorettahale1252]

@@unnaturalhistorychannel actually I have a question (had to go to school before I finished video) what is your favorite monster

[@TornaitSuperBird]

Tigrex really works as a more primal, prehistoric take on a Monster Hunter monster, imo. The raw aggression, the powerful, almost literally deafening roar, and the seemingly exaggerated powerful proportions. It really brings through the "untamed power" aspect. One of my favorite monster designs in the series. ...Can't really say I enjoy the fights though- they're definitely terrifying, though.

[@Beathisat7]

Imagine preparing for years to hunt your first tigrex to honor your village, you encounter it, it roars, and you shit yourself for no reason.

[@astralbirthvoid0]

"Noooooooo, you're not supposed to be alive, it's been millions of years you didn't change, your prey has surely evolved to best you." "Haha, 170 decibels yell go brrrrrrr!"

[@raisp6073]

Imagine evolving to not get eaten by something and it just roars you into submission 💀

[@the_bohemian4536]

I hope we get more “primitive” monsters like Tigrex in the future. it would be very interesting to see the ancestor (or the missing link) of various monsters to show how they evolved the way they did.

[@julianswinton5355]

The fanged wyvern showed or teased a little bit with the jagras and dodogama. They are more reptilian compared to zinogre, odogaron and such

[@MagnusTonitrum117]

Anjanath also comes to mind when thinking ‘primitive’ monsters, mostly cause of the more overt T. rex inspiration with it

[@gpereir10]

After having heard it, I love the idea of a swimming/aquatic pseudo wyvern. I’d love for it to have Spinosauridae elements to mirror Tigrex’s T. Rex elements.

[@unnaturalhistorychannel]

I'd love a spinosaur WC wyvern too. It may serve being a brute wyvern or leviathan better, but at any rate I hope we see one.

[@Dranlia]

@@unnaturalhistorychannel The fact we never got a swimming brute Wyvern in third gen was a shame.

[@Derpy-qg9hn]

Pariapuria is known to enjoy water, and can potentially prey on Rajang via drowning them as evidenced by them sometimes barfing up Rajang bits. If MH6 brings swimming back, maybe Paria should get a swimming phase to its fight, and a 50-50 Rajang turf war?

[@JasonBason]

@@Derpy-qg9hn I feel like for the turf war Rajang should still win, as it seems Puria is able to take down Rajang purely because of Rajang being bad a swimming and Puria being at home in the water, on land Rajang would still most likely win

[@TheXAllosaurus]

That idea did came into my mind "Liospino" (Lion + Spinosaurus) pronounced Leo-Spy-No, not Lie-o-Spy-No Name title: Mute Wyvern Class: Flying Wyvern Size: Around 23 meters in average Abilities: Water Splash attack (In water area), Scale Shot Fury (Much like Seregios's scale shot, though shorter range but its all directional attack) Description: Liospino preferred to live in swamp and dune environment, occasionally came across and fight Tigrex. Thanks to generational beef with Tigrex, Liospino has protective earlid from both sides of its ears, can shut completely at Liospino's will. Unlike most Flying Wyverns though, Liospino does not have any vocal cords, so it intimidates the potential threat and communicate with other individual by making rattling sounds with its scales.

[@CrudDeposit]

Tigrex has a special place in my heart. It’s what got me into Monster Hunter; I first saw it when I was 9 and playing MGS on the PSP and I was like: “WHAT?” So I asked my friends what it was from and they said Monster Hunter; And here I am, with over 4K hours in all of the games combined

[@its_sisha_not_chair505]

Funny enough, that was the monster that almost made me quit the series as a whole when i was a kid. I still love him and what it represents. In older games its straight up an unfair battle and designed like ass, but i kinda like that. In freedom unite, he truly gives the vibe of a relentless beast, unstopable and a demostration of raw power. This monster its the proof that monster hunter isnt for everybody, but for the truly determinated hunters willing to fail and thrive through the challenge. The first time i beat him as a little eleven year old, i screamed at the top of my lungs, aside from being funny... That day i understood why monsters roar and i felt in love with the series.

[@LeoTheYuty]

lol that collab was badass

[@tranngockha6562]

​@@its_sisha_not_chair505 That sound so epic. Must've been incredible when you beat it. I'm getting into the game trying Monster hunter 1. Wish me luck.

[@soltheshinydrifblim7183]

I find it interesting how much Tigrex is shown being an active predator, when it’s strategy of largely straight charging appears better optimized to stealing kills in my opinion, with it’s roar acting as an effective deterrence for other predators that may value their sense of hearing after it has driven off the original predator.

[@grantflippin7808]

It probably does, but food is food and you're made of it

[@victory8928]

Tigrex probably uses both methods even possible. Hard to scavange when nothing is leaving carcesses though it and barioth probably aren’t friends as barioth can only eat softer organs while tigrex can mince a whole carcass. So any locale with barioth and tigrex overlap, Tigrex has a higher percentage of scavenging in its diet

[@willie9084]

It’s an odd thought but I love the idea of some of the wide roaming MH monsters like tigrex exhibiting the wolverine behavior of being surprisingly good fathers and occasionally visiting and teaching their wide reaching batch of kits or even traveling with them later on in life

[@Ragnarra]

That got a d'awwwwwww out of me.

[@DefinitelyNotEmma]

Glad to see one of my favorite monsters being featured. I'm a huge fan of Tigrex design, of all three main variants actually. I also love its role within the monster hunter universe. Which is also why I'm expecting a comparison to Hyenas, not only do both Tigrex and Hyenas hunt while also feeding on carrion, both also share the similarities of a strong jaw, long forelegs and short rear legs.

[@unicorntomboy9736]

It's on the nose to say, but surely it would be more comparable to Tigers, hence it's name

[@Thundernugget]

You're right

[@endel12]

I see you fall into the Tie-Grex camp instead of the canon “Tea-Grex”

[@GunlessSnake]

I was wondering if you were gonna cover Tigrex's place in Flying Wyvern evolution, but it seems you didn't. It's fascinating to see how Tigrex serves as a kind of look into the early history of Flying Wyverns, showing their roots before most of them ended up evolving into bipedal flyers. And while you don't like Molten Tigrex, I do like how Molten Tigrex expresses gigantism as a form of repressed genetic expression branching into a distinct Rare Subspecies, another aspect of Tigrex's prehistoric origins and signifying that these giant apex predators of the modern MH era are in fact equivalent to modern lions/bears compared to giant precursors being the dinosaurs and cave bears/lions.

[@johncronk8867]

If anyone has seen the Wyvern Rex concept art, you’ll see it basically looks like Tigrex with the skin and teeth of an Alligator, and the dragging tail and floppy spine things of an Iguana. As Wyvern Rex is supposed to be the common ancestor of all Flying Wyverns, it fits really well with Tigrex being unchanged since ancient times.

[@drakenzahn9149]

In the QnA he mentioned he's not keen on wyvernrex, since flight is developed in small species and those species grow, instead of large species developing flight and then changing to any size. At some point I think he also said MH's classification is a mess but I could be misremembering.

[@GunlessSnake]

@@drakenzahn9149 I think it's actually much more interesting how larger species downsized and developed more proper wings, as it speaks of wholly unique evolutionary circumstances compared to our real world that we've no real equivalent to. It's something that wouldn't make a layman bat an eye but immediately catches the eye of those more in the know on evolutionary theory. It's unfortunate that he doesn't like this evolutionary development, as it's very fascinating to dissect something that has no real-world equivalent and speculate on what could cause this shift.

[@johncronk8867]

@@GunlessSnake given the aspects that differentiate Wyvern Rex from Tigrex, it may have been an aquatic predator, at least partially; it might have used its wings to aid in swimming and thermoregulation.

[@GunlessSnake]

@@johncronk8867 Quite an interesting and unique take I haven't seen! I don't know about Wyvern Rex, but the ancestor to raptorial Bird Wyverns is arguably even more interesting, as they started out as winged wyverns but then evolved into more dromaeosaur-like forms, in a kind of reversal of how modern birds evolved.

[@hexacockadrom_7898]

I will say I always had an appreciation for Tigrex, not only for the sick design but for it’s three themes across the series. From the classic theme from the Freedom games, the rising tension of the 4 Ultimate theme, and the almost horror movie vibe of World’s.

[@lorettahale1252]

Tigrex is my favorite boi and he is the reason I knew what monster hunter was at a young age and due to this I have made a rule for myself to never kill a tigrex

[@g1sunstreaker584]

next time I'm scared of a tigrex hunt this is what I will tell myself

[@redstinger0966]

I'm assuming you captured them?

[@TheRedVoyager]

I once made a custom quest in 4u fighting an apex tigrex in the speartip crag, the map where you fight dalamadur. It has a unique quality where monsters don't stop at the edge of the map, but instead fall off then have to climb or fly back up. I wish I experimented with the map more, since it was really funny to watch tigrex fall off the map then fly back on.

[@dapperraptor8789]

I was extremely excited for this one (after all I’ve never checked discord so much). Tigrex has been my one of my favourites up there nergigante and anjanath but it was also the monster that got me into the franchise with freedom unite. To 9 year old me it was the coolest thing I’d ever seen and seeing the tigrex square off with the 3 hunters in freedom unite’s introduction cutscene was enough to get me to play monster hunter. Plus it made me feel so accomplished when my dad gave up on the game and gave it to his 9 year old son only for him to beat the tigrex he struggled with. After my dad passed away I decided to hunt a tigrex yearly on his birthday as a reminder of both him and the reason I’m even playing this franchise. I just love tigrex and everything about him is perfect to me in terms of design and fight. If anjanath didn’t exist tigrex would probably take my top spot as my favourite monster. I just hope that tigrex never stops returning and he probably never will as he’s almost as iconic as rathalos. The video was executed excellently, I believe that the concept of tigrex getting into long distance shouting matches with one another for a females attention is both funny and a interesting concept to think about. Plus with its courtship behaviour tying into its nomadic behaviour and extreme aggression, then being supplemented by tigrex’s relationship with other monster is all excellent stuff. Very happy you’ve covered the roaring wyvern and I can’t wait to see what comes next. Good day to you

[@unnaturalhistorychannel]

Thank you so much, I'm glad this video can contribute something to your memories of family!

[@user-lone]

Finally got a well-deserved video on one of the best monsters!

[@lygoozman125]

One thing I’ve noticed about Tigrex, is how he vibrates/rattles his wings when we roars, at least for the most part. There is one roar when he runs away and doesn’t do it, but you can really hear the wings rattle, and I love it

[@joseal8319]

I still like the "Desert Species, Tundra Traveler" idea, with the Highlands and Savannahs being midway stops trough their journeys.

[@Edujs23]

I remember when i first started playing MH4U and knew little to nothing about the monsters, i thought Tigrex would have a poison attack where it stabs you like a Scorpion would, because his tailspike has a hole on the point like a syringe, something he actually shares with nargacuga

[@dirandrous7682]

Maybe a homologous trait in all flying wyverns?

[@JanusHoW]

Last time I was this early, the Ancient Civilization was still around.

[@christosgiannopoulos828]

Last time I was this early, the deviljho were healthy

[@aidenhorne3981]

What I personally like about Tigrex design-wise is that they're the perfect example of a stat stick in MH. They don't have any fancy gimmicks or tricks to get around and punish, just pure strength and speed that you *have* to respect while still getting in your own attacks. Makes it a fun and rewarding fight in my opinion.

[@sleepydruid100]

The mating behavior of that bat really sound like party from my teen years.

[@reaper4812]

I was wondering why Tigrex hadn’t been featured on your channel already, and I now see that it was most likely because you wanted it to be absolutely perfect when you did get to it. Safe to say, I believe that goal was met. Well fucking done, this is absolutely top tier content.

[@unnaturalhistorychannel]

Thank you so much!

[@michaelwareham4014]

Great video as always. I’m not sure how viable this theory of mine is but said theory is that one contributing factor to Tigrex being so loud is the potential to hunt Diablos and Monoblos. The only evidence I have for this being possible is Diablos’ sound sensitivity and both of them can be found in the desert. Personally I really love the idea of an older Tigrex who specializes in hunting Blos Wyverns. The Tyrannosaur vs Ceratopsian aesthetic also adds to it. The Blos wyverns being larger than Tigrex goes against this theory of mine but I don’t think it rules it out. Tigers have been confirmed to have killed Indian Elephants and Rhinos, granted these are rare events but still. I hope you find this theory even a little interesting, I’ve been waiting for this video to get it off my chest lol

[@unnaturalhistorychannel]

I think against a healthy adult a tigrex would likely be in trouble (especially black diablos), but against young or vulnerable individuals it definitely stands a shot, and they could be another prey item tigrex evolved to be so powerful for.

[@michaelwareham4014]

@@unnaturalhistorychannel could it be possible that Diablos and Monoblos evolved to be so powerful because of Tigrex predation? The predator prey arms race between them would be similar to Ceratopsian dinosaurs and tyrannosaurs

[@RazorBlade-eh9br]

this is just a little fun fact that might support the "different Tigrex from different locations" bit. In the older games, I believe, when a Tigrex (and Nargacuga) is in an area and not doing anything, it would lift it's arms up and walk around like a flying wyvern. this is something I think changed in World, where now Tigrex would walk around on all fours.

[@purplehaze2358]

3:38 That thing looks like a joke Mother Nature made while drunk that went way too far. I love it.

[@stronghold325]

Worth the wait, and quite a brilliant video too. Glad to also hear your thoughts on him as well, and I agree with you on your take for old monsters. I hope Tigrex and Goss Harag continue to appear in future games, just give us back Gammoth and the trio of the best cold region dwelling monsters in the series will finally be complete. I really want a game with all three of them! I love Goss absolutely, my favorite monster for sure, but there’s no words that’d describe my joy for if someone managed to somehow get him into GU. But if nothing else I hope all three will be able to appear together in the future. They just work so well together!

[@Ankation]

I don't normally comment, since I just like learning your takes on speculative ecology and reading discussions from people more well versed in the matter. But boy, "Taiga king" in the thumbnail struck me so hard that I have to give you props for that one.

[@scorpiopede]

I was always skeptical of Tigrex's ecology in high altitude and especially latitude environments so I'm glad you addressed those points in the video and I'm definitely more convinced that it isn't just something Capcom pulled out of their Congalalas. I'm curious but what are your thoughts on the supposedly canon assessment that Tigrex represents a surviving member of basal wyverns, or at least is basal taxonomically compared to all other pseudo and flying wyverns, and that these fall under Theropoda instead of some other group of Diapsids? Over all fantastic video though, never disliked Tigrex and my appreciation for it has grown. Looking forward to the next one.

[@unnaturalhistorychannel]

I think wyverns evolving flight from already large animals like tigrex is a little iffy. I.M.O it'd make a lot more sense for wyvern ancestors to be more like wing drakes.

[@scorpiopede]

@@unnaturalhistorychannel I do agree in that respects, though I sometimes wonder if the common ancestor of wyverns was something Tigrex-like but on a much smaller scale. Ultimately that's the tricky part, since Tigrex's wing structure seems like the most basal wing structure among wyverns.

[@jasonvoorhees5180]

I was wondering when you’d cover the mascot of your channel lol

[@unicorntomboy9736]

Hopefully Seltas will be next. It is similar in many ways to the real life Asian Giant Hornet, aside from being solitary

[@loisonnut]

Tigrex shares a lot of interesting parallels with Lunagaron with them being monsters iconic in their snowy habitats that are nomadic and tackle large prey. Even though they're quite new, the two normal lords could have very interesting videos.

[@cro-magnoncarol4017]

I'm not sure if modern Elephants are the best comparison for Gammoth behaviorally. For example, canonically females Gammoths actually grow larger than the males with presumably all the Gammoths we fight in the series being female. Why we don't see the males & why the females are presumably solitary is beyond me, perhaps Gammoth just has a skewed sex ratio in bias of females but that last part is just a theory...

[@unnaturalhistorychannel]

It's said that all gammoth seen and fought are female, but I'm not sure if it's said they're larger. Gammoth may not be identical to proboscideans but then there's also a lot in general we don't know about them.

[@AfroBlackSiren]

One of the things I like the most from Tigrex (which Barioth also have) is how much the fight is "interactive". Tigrex is very baitable, but also does mix-ups for those baits. And specially, how damaging and breaking his parts makes his attacks either fail or him tripping due to pain or not being used to the injure. Not special to this fight, but it is something I LOVE from my good boy™

[@zoahking]

20:58 most wyverns: Which is more nutritious? I kilogram off bone or a kilogram of meat? That’s right! A kilogram of meat. Because meat is easier to get to than bone Tigrex: They’re the same. They’re both a kilogram.

[@aperson7011]

Fun fact, Tigrex's roar has a surprisingly small radius of effect, at least when compared to other monsters like Diablos and Gravios. I like to think that the damaging aspect of a Tigrex roar also comes from sheer sound pressure literally blowing you off your feet. EDIT: Forgot another Tigrex trivia. In Freedom Unite, after hunting Tigrex for the first time, the Pokke Elder mentions obtaining a unique "Tigrex Screamer" from it. Though it's not an actual item, it gets used in a cutscene to shatter a wall of ice to expand the farm.

[@Sorrelhas]

It would be pretty broken if Tigrex had the full roar radius while still dealing damage, especially in older games where his roar wrecked your shit

[@logr12dragonknight55]

I kinda want to see a video on Teostra and Lunastra since they were the First elder dragon pair that’s both male and female

[@marcogarcia7944]

I always tought tigrex’s roar served as an alarm to other predators, telling them to get away from a kill. Serving mainly as a tool for intimidating other predators off their kills.

[@zackarieneifert7014]

as someone who lives near the largest temperate rainforest in the world, would love to see that represented in the franchise. there's just so much you could do with that enviroment i feel.

[@genocidegames8423]

I'm surprised you didn't mention anything about brute tigrex's roars in comparison to regular tigrex, as in world when he roars peirces through the earbud skill ala the sonic beams of shara ishvalda. In fact the major differance between brute and regular tigrex. This is apparently due to the volcanic areas being too loud for normal tigrex roars and the brutes evolved to compensate.

[@milkiboreas]

wonderful video as usual! love your theory about the jaws being more used for food processing than dispatching prey!

[@TheCoreOTO8239]

Tigrex really is one of the best monsters MH has ever created. His fight in Freedom 2 is particularly memorable. It knocks you off the mountain in the beginning and if you played the previous game your ego gets poked at even more. A rematch with the beast becomes your motivation. When it’s finally time to face this menace, he’s every bit as intimidating and challenging as he was built up to be.

[@Freeseraphim]

I've been waiting eagerly for this!

[@m.s.e.advanced2842]

My favorite of the pseudowyvern trio. Beyond the striking design, his interesting ecology, simple effectiveness, and aggressive fight put him not only at the top of the trio but up there as one of the better monsters for me

[@razzar_8]

I love how these videos have started being a platform for other creators in this (let's be honest, quite niche) space to show off their creativity and hard work. Your videos a perfect vehicle for these creators to show off their work on as it's some earned advertising for said creators, as well as a visual interest and aid for these videos that are just so interesting and informative.

[@Beowulf_DW]

I like Tigrex for many of the same reasons you listed. It just checks a lot of boxes. I find that Tigrex also makes me consider a lot of things. Like, where does Tigrex sit in the evolutionary family tree for the wyverns? Was it derived from a flying wyvern, or did flying wyverns arise from it? Are Tigrex’s small wings remnants of the True/Flying wyvern’s full sized wings, or did the Flying wyverns develop their flight from Tigrex’s ability to fly? And where do ukanlos and akantor fit in? Are they larger relatives of the Tigrex? Or do they sit on opposite ends of the family tree, one way or another?.

[@Beowulf_DW]

KZbin isn’t allowing me to edit right, now, so let me say that I meant Tigrex’s ability to GLIDE not fly. Thank you.

[@draw2death421]

I believe Tigrex was more of a Evolution from Rathalos and Rathian more than the otherway around. I feel like Flying wyverns probably came from Bird Wyverns.

[@gloomyallo1830]

Tigrex is directly descended from the Wyvern rex, which is canonically one of the earliest ancestors of all flying wyverns, so it's kind of its own thing and explains why Tigrex is commonly referred to as an archaic or primal monster.

[@Beowulf_DW]

Never heard of Wyvern Rex, before. Sounds neat. Is there and art book, or something I could get to learn more about it?

[@YaBoiDREX]

@@Beowulf_DWIt’s on the MH wiki

[@Voc_spooksauce]

I was wondering if you liked him but then i remembered he was your channel pfp. Honestly i really like him too, i only played World but he was fun to fight even if he's not as tough as he was before. And his design and ecology are really great which is wonderful. Cheers from Brazil, take care lad :> Edit: Also i always loved dinossaurs but tbf that's just one reason i like him, not a bias

[@Shodanlu05]

Best boi, tigrex Has been my favorite monster since the start

[@thefraser5131]

Great video, I feel that bullfango during powderstone quests comment. I personally like Molten Tigrex's fight due to how crazy he gets the more you anger him, dodging all 7 of his back to back charges is terrifying, but I can get behind your complaints about him. I like the non-monster hunter videos too and will be happy to wait to see what your next video is. Sometime in the future I would like to see a fatalis video, as I don't see fatalis as the evil godlike beast that many people still seem to see him as for some reason. In the world of monster hunter fatalis is such a culturally significant monster a lot of his descriptions are very overblown, and seeing a more realistic view on fatalis might be interesting.

[@guillermogonzalez3696]

You can really tell there's a lot of love for pseudos when they're being designed and Tigrex totally does show to be the first at that. I love when a monster is so well put together and still leaves all this room to speculate on these videos, so nice. Great video!

[@lexrupus4798]

You forgot to mention the initial trauma Tigrex throws at you when you take the Sinking Feeling quest. 🤣 Side note, while the Grimclaw deviant wasn't worth mentioning because it's just Tigrex that has been frostbitten probably, I think it's worth discussing how monsters that endure physiological problems offer a surprisingly good fight and justify their unhinged temperament when they're on death row without adding exaggerated attributes like elements, statuses, elder dragon-esque weather control, etc. Bloodbath is also a good example of this where it doesn't backtrack and slap in whatever cool trend other monsters have and instead cranks up what's already good about it up to 11.

[@atlander4204]

I will never forget my first encounter in 4U…he pinned me to the wall in area four of the ancestral steppe and chain-charged me to death. Again. And again. And AGAIN. It was brutal and unnecessary-what did I ever do to Capcom?

[@supersai-raptor5167]

I love the assertion of Tigrex using its roar as a territorial marker as well as a mechanism for mating. This was possibly my favorite video by you so far, I do have a question though, what are your thoughts on grimclaw and to join in with your environmental suggestions for a future game I feel like a cavernous valley coukd be an excellent environment for maybe a burrowing pseudo wyvern or one I’ve thought of for a while like a non snow covered alpine forest or maybe an environment that’s split in half by a salt plain with even terrain that you fight a monster on as you would essentially change ares from like a lush forest or jungle to this barren stretch of land that acts like a one on one battlefield between you and the monster, this may be almost impossible to implement given that environmental effects are a thing and have been for while and it may just be a brief encounte, but capcom focuses on that kind of thing when creating intro cutscenes so who knows it may be cool!

[@christosgiannopoulos828]

YEESSS I kept refreshing my subscribed page, waiting for this to appear

[@LordWallace]

2nd gen Tigrex is terrifying for sure but the one that really got me was the Frenzied Tigrex urgent in 4U which handed me my first carts in that game. He might not have gotten much between those games but one change that did stick out to me was his new 180 turnaround in lieu of turning twice to face behind itself. Combined with the extra speed from Frenzy I was having a rough time.

[@dr.archaeopteryx5512]

It's kinda funny how much Tigrex' lore just seems like a less wild take on Deviljho. Wonder if that's a case of the same writer reusing concepts, or design version of convergent evolution.

[@unnaturalhistorychannel]

I've always though this too, in lore and concept he feels like the prototype jho.

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

Based on their prey of choice, I believe that regular Tigrex should keep it's regular size while Brute Tigrex should keep the size it had in World, to reflect that it goes after bigger and thougher prey

[@chadgorosaurus4898]

The Tigrex has one of the most basic designs yet is one of the most interesting creatures from monster hunter.

[@taloscal]

Tigrex is always a classic fight, and though through the years I've found him quite predictable and simple in his moveset, the general relentlessness and aggression of the beast will never fail to make me feel wierdly exhausted whenever I face him.

[@notsae66]

Never been a fan of Tigrex. Always thought he was the least interesting and difficult of the four pseudo-wyverns, and I certainly never got the whole "unrelenting, unstoppable beast" thing I hear people say. He's just a big doofy monster that rushes at you like a Nargacuga with brain damage until you cut him down. The only thing slightly difficult about him is his running back and forth over and over, which feels more annoying than truly difficult right from the start.

[@whatthebeardoin3160]

Does the classic Tigrex rock throw indicate a heightened amount of intelligence? It will attempt to produce a solid projectile from the ground around it regardless of biome but it will always scoop and produce something capable of being tossed at it's target with a decent degree of accuracy. If we are to assume that Kulu digging up stones as weapons is indicative of tool use, would Tigrex' rock toss not also constitute tool use? What's the precedent for an animal with tool-use level intelligence without the ability to grasp objects? Since Tigrex' forelimbs can't seem to hold onto things as much as shunt the rock forward with a push

[@Nathanielgbo1]

Largest, most powerful pseudo wyvern... Somewhere in the volcanic belt, an Akantor with internet access takes out it's frustration against a large Gravios. The Tigrex population is larger and more likely to make itself a problem in the day to day lives of villagers, so greater fear is justified.

[@hag8752]

I love his fight. Its like with odogoron, once you learn his patterns it feels like youre dancing with him, avoiding his charge and rolling away from the roar. I still havent killed brute

[@mr.h1803]

tigrex are just as nomadic as me being able to find this post in mere seconds

[@bignelly9476]

Tigrex: yo bro can I copy your fight patterns Diablos: ok fine but don’t make it obvious Tigrex: *is a train* Diablos: *is a train* Still love them both tho

[@TheXAllosaurus]

Tigrex is the train that's super loud, Diablos is the train that can dig underground

[@venomenon276]

Based UHC as always. Tigrex is and probably always will be my favorite pseudo wyvern, and I especially love his theme in Iceborne (easily my favorite rendition). I admittedly do like Brute Tigrex quite a lot, arguably more so than the base. I think actually it’d be fair to say that Brute produces sounds MUCH louder than normal Tigrex, considering how much longer range his roar attacks have in Iceborne. It does also make me wonder how loud Yian Garuga is in comparison. Couldn’t Monoblos also deal damage with its roar in the first game, too?

[@unnaturalhistorychannel]

In 1 Monoblos couldn't damage you but it was said it's roar generally caused people to nope out of quests. Garuga doesn't seem to hurt the hunter, but may still cause some hearing damage or at least pain if jho is anything to go by.

[@minecraftdinokaijumdk992]

Tigrex has always been an interesting monster for me. Power, strength, and loudness rolled up into one monster. This was a nice video. However, one thing is still confusing after watching this. Given how Tigrex is a big-game specialist, it should mean that it doesn't bother with humans at all. And yet, we see it not only go after humans to drive them away from territory, possibly, but we even know that they sometimes hunt humans despite not being comparatively large prey for the wyvern. Some Tigrex may be seen as desperate, but most do not seem to be this way. Outside of removal of competition or threats, is there a reason for these Tigrex to hunt humans? (Especially those Tigrex who aren't desperate?)

[@grimnir8872]

One thing you forgot to mention that while Tigrex do not have any predators, Tigrex do have a very real danger in Gammoth, who are known to hunt down and brutally kill any Tigrex due to an instilled fear of them due to predation them as children. Gammoth also seem to be the evolutionary hard counter to Tigrex, being a literal immovable wall able to blunt a Tigrex charge, and the added Ice Element a known weakness of Tigrex.

[@DanielisAwesome52]

Rise does NOT need more fire monsters, but an ultra frequency Tigrex with burning Roars (think of World Brutes beam roar too) would be an awesome subspecies

[@Verdessa1273]

ah yes: loud, annoying, glass cannon barioth that is a chore to fight But after watching the video, i guess he's a little more interesting...

[@redlantern6669]

I was expecting you to compare Tigrex to Deviljio, an example of one species succeeding in adapting to change and another who is failing

[@athos9293]

The concept of a T. rex progressively and unintentionally decapitating the carcass of a Triceratops as a result of consuming it's head first before moving to the rest of the body is actually something really cool

[@sapling_hoshii]

Tigrex my beloved

[@MrMegaMaster_Mind]

It’s a tiger and a T. rex………….WHATS ELSE COULD YOU POSSIBLY NEED

[@蝦羅地会ハコボ]

I believe The MH team explained way back why underwater combat would not comeback. Their reason was simply that underwater combat requires a brand new moveset for every single weapon in the game duping the work needed to both modify and update weapons as well as double the aquatic-able monster's movesets as well. And that due to mixed reception it was deemed that it was not worth the effort and they'd abandon it.

[@unnaturalhistorychannel]

IIRC they said they actually wanted it to return at somepoint. Doesn't look like it'll be Wilds alas, but World almost had it.

[@Oooze3424]

hell, if we do get a temperate rainforest like the ones in British Columbia and Washington we might get a bigfoot monster

[@skiafraylalnasache]

When it comes to molten tigrex, There is a huge issue. He is in exactly one main-series game, and exactly one map. And there is next to nothing known about him, other than the fact that "He probably exists, and he's big". To me, Molten is in the category of "Please return so you can be fixed/improved" monsters.

[@deathshand4248]

Tigrex is also one of my favorites in fact I don't think there is a single pseudo wyvern I hate. I also wish for underwater combat to come return of Cedues (and with my all time favorite theme) and Abyssal Lagi, maybe an underwater Narkaros fight and finally being able to see an adult Gobul (as all gobyl we fight are junviles as adult live in dark depths of the ocean like Abyssal does). Not to mention the possibilities of more ocean monsters, a whale or lion fish would cool

[@captaincringe9312]

He's pretty easy for me to read now but when I first played 4 ultimate (my first encounter with tigrex) he was a menacing opponent and I remember constantly superman diving out of the way as he charged back and forth in clumsy attempts to avoid his attacks. Now I find him relatively easy to punish for his charges but that's probably just because of experience. Overall, tigrex is one of my favorite monsters because of his unique appearance, his theme, and his intimidation factor.

[@shadow_thiy]

Tigrex has been one of my favorites ever since I saw his freedom 2 intro on PSP as well as the mountain herb mission surprise. I find his design and the simplistic creativity of Tigrex to trigger dopamine in just the right ways. To the point that I'm working on a monster inspired by it for my own creative writing project. One thing I wanted to talk or ask about was the limited flight or gliding because that's something I wanted to focus on with my own inspired wyvern. Do you think Tigrex's ability to keep a limited glide come from it's skill in being able to climb vertical cliffs? Perhaps a clumsy landing is considered a safer or more efficient option than precariously climbing back down.

[@unnaturalhistorychannel]

Broken terrain and mountainous habitats could well be a reason for tigrex to still glide, and tigrex may also just be something of a reckless animal that takes that risk fairly often.

[@pirig-gal]

When you mentioned the possibility of a female Tigrex initiating a lek, it brought up a terrifying scene. Imagine being a hunter, tracking a Tigrex female that was spotted near your village. You finally close the distance and start observing. She finds a nicely positioned shelf on a mountain and starts roaring in an odd way, the way you've never heard her sound before. This is not an attacking roar. Soon, you start hearing the responses. First from afar, then closer, and closer. The Tirgrex lek season has begun, and just a stone's throw from your village, what luck.

[@Cosmosis401]

Babe wake up new Unnatural History Channel video

[@militarykobold]

In defense of Molten Tigrex's fight (I have no explanation for /why/ it's constantly shedding exploding fart clouds): Something I've noticed is that a lot of late game/Ultimate-release monsters is they will be designed to punish people used to the normal fight. Molten Tigrex starts sloughing off bomb powder in seemingly exactly where you want to be when you are dodging an attack or trying to get an attack in. Then the blastblight makes the incoming Tigrex charge that much riskier. The same goes for Valstrax, who punishes people who are used to being safe while stabbing Gore/Shaggy's legs (same skeleton) with a specifically-targeted wing stab attack. It's there as an extra challenge to force veterans to learn new patterns, and their old, auto-pilot habits become a detriment.

[@dichotomusprime6646]

Hey UHC: A broader question for you... Are there any channels or sources on zoology/ecological study that you know of that you enjoy, that give more attention to things on the 'conceptual' level that you do? One of the things that I find stands out about your videos is how much I learn about biological, behavioural, or ecological concepts that have broad ranging applications. I didn't know about things like gigantothemy, brood parasitism, the Landscape of Fear, and the differences/interactions between opportunistic predation, interguild predation, and interference competition until I watched your videos. There are several good channels on "here are some cool facts about X species", but few that knit and apply these concepts across multiple examinations. So that's both my compliment to your work saying you REALLY stand out in the manner in which you approach things, and my picking your brain for more cool shit to watch. Love the videos, keep up the great work as always.

[@unnaturalhistorychannel]

I would say my chief recommendation is zefrank. His videos are often for comedy, but he uses a lot of peer-reviewed literature in them and they definitely have eductional merit. The older ones my lecturers used to use, and newer ones have been applauded by experts in their field. There are lots of other zoology-slanted channels, and the greatest are probably still mid at best. The worst (and sadly often most popular) are misinforming garbage. But zefrank stands out as a shining beacon.

[@rylanbrewer3320]

What are your thought son mhrise sunbreaks three lords

[@hyena8864]

When you hear Tigrex do not picture something like this.

[@g1sunstreaker584]

I for one would love to see a ravine or canyon style map. I'm a total layman in terms of ecology, but I remember doing a project at my college surrounding the Arnhem Leaf-Nosed Bat, a small bat that literally only lives in one tiny ravine in Australia and absolutely nowhere else in the world, and finding myself surprisingly invested in its little life. I think a map like that could open up lots of possibilities for fresh designs and combat techniques, like a map that's more vertical than horizontal and more cave dwelling monsters that aren't just parasitic worms like Khezu or Gigganox, or perhaps bat and gecko-like monsters!

[@unnaturalhistorychannel]

You may be interested to know such a map was originally slated for World, but was sadly cut due to time and issues with getting Zorah working. Maybe for 6 though!

[@g1sunstreaker584]

@@unnaturalhistorychannel woooaah, really?? that's rad! i would love to see them continue to branch out into totally new biomes like that!

[@edwardkravchuk5659]

Make a video on Eruzerion.

[@viperaberus1560]

Such a cool monster. Got into mhf2 back in the day and Tigrex is, besides Khezu, still the only monster I feel truly intimidated by due to that one mission early on. Great video highlighting an awesome wyvern.

[@Silver-Rexy]

You're 100% right. You continually harping on water combat's return has convinced me that it would be a _great_ idea and should be included in 6th gen.

[@unnaturalhistorychannel]

The rebellion begins here

[@elredgreenjester5147]

Hey man, your videos just add another level to the monster hunter universe. Explaining these almost mythical creatures in a more realistic take just adds a lot of interesting perspective on the monster many love and enjoy interacting with. I just wish we can fight the owl monster from MHGen that would be awesome.

[@The_PokeSaurus]

One of my favorite Monsters, I mean, Tiger with T-Rex into dragon, it's beautiful. I love the design, simplistic but effective. The attitude, it's a psychopath in battle with its own blood vessels bulging from the pressure, and not even needing any elemental powers to keep up and terrify other monsters. The roar so loud it can hurt you, reminds me of a theory that Tigers use their roars to stun prey before attacking. Is there anything to that or is it just a rumor?

[@unnaturalhistorychannel]

I think that's likely a rumour. Even whales with the power to sound zap their prey still don't use it outside of just searching, and it probably only has a close proximity.

[@The_PokeSaurus]

@@unnaturalhistorychannel Ah, as I suspected.

[@TravellerWence]

I remember reading somewhere that Orca use their sonar as like a close range shotgun blast of sound to stun fish but I don’t know if it was a proper study or anything

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

The time has come. And so have I.

[@arisenpawn425]

What does he mean by this?

[@shagarumedic]

I love how Tiggy is able to keep up with other monsters that have ridiculous power ups (Zinogre, magna, gore magala, etc) without any element or gimmick. Tiggy is able to overcome his lack of element with pure aggression and strength and I find that so friggin cool

[@thechameleos6334]

This is off-topic, but I think a video on the life cycle and inner workings of Gravios would be fascinating. It would be cool to see any real-world analogous of the stone skin. Plus I have always found it cool how the gravios females migrate outside of the volcanoes to give birth. Like sharks going to the shallows

[@taurvanath]

"Babe wake up, UHC just posted."

[@PurplePartyParasaur]

The thumbnail doesn’t get enough appreciation

[@johndiddilyjoe6258]

If you put all you monster hunter ecology videos in one playlist I will watch it every night, no ad block. Deal?

[@unnaturalhistorychannel]

Go on then

[@johndiddilyjoe6258]

@@unnaturalhistorychannel I love you, also your videos are top quality stuff

[@davidegaruti2582]

Superb video as always ! From the outside looking in Tigrex always seemed like this almost sauropod sized animal , and indeed over time it grew on me as an almost tacky combination of a tiger and a T.rex , As well as basically an all brawn predator , the thing that likely takes it down a bit in my book is that it's back legs look a bit too tiny for it , it almost looks like it's dragging itself around rather than running ... But other than that it looks badass as all hell

[@rewsterfewd1226]

Will never forget “collect 5 popo tongue” quest