Was anyone else appaled at how they called the girls names to depart the bus instead of approaching the families of the deceased girls privately??! What a cruel way to handle it.
@TheLifeofKiara3 жыл бұрын
omg yes smfh
@lynnserrano83353 жыл бұрын
So cruel 🥺
@diablocell3 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, we know 3 families have been destroyed, better make all of the families feel that worry and dread
@TheOfficialSagittarian3 жыл бұрын
Omg yes that was absolutely horrible !!!!!
@zmaria7393 жыл бұрын
ikr the 70s was an interesting time…
@KDEEZYBABY2 жыл бұрын
Denise was actually my aunt and I tear up every time thinking about what she went through and it makes me sad when I see my grandmother having to revisit such a dark time during all of the interviews over the past decade… Thank you so much for taking the time to share my aunt Denise, Lori, and Michelle’s story🙏🏾
@mariannarodriguez99522 жыл бұрын
😢
@jillw.2524 Жыл бұрын
Bless You & family...rest in Heaven 3 beautiful angels ❤❤❤
@jilward Жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️😇😇😇
@jusdriftinggg8 ай бұрын
My prayers are with you
@honeydew_subliminal6 ай бұрын
Bless you and your family ❤
@TheLifeofKiara3 жыл бұрын
ugh Denise’s letter. As a mother myself, I can only imagine how much guilt she must have even though it wasn’t her fault of course . That is so sad. Poor girl and family..
@leahvogelsimpson3 жыл бұрын
Yes omg it would be horrific! I'd heard this case before but didn't remember a lot of details except that poor little girls letter. It's haunting.
@JennifuhhGilardi3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if it had actually gotten mailed before the murders and it showed up after 😓
@rosemead43103 жыл бұрын
@@JennifuhhGilardi I don’t think I’d be able to live if that happened to me I’m ngl 🥺😭💔
@lindseyhendrix24053 жыл бұрын
That part really got to me:(
@AlexAndra-iy5zu3 жыл бұрын
How could the mother have known? I pray she was able to forgive herself. I feel awful for the mother’s, families, camp counselors and all involved.
@guadalupeayala66153 жыл бұрын
As a mother, this story really made me cry. I’m more angry that no one was deemed responsible for it. I could never imagine losing a child and even more as horrific what these baby girls when through.
@MileHigher3 жыл бұрын
It's already horrific, but even more so that no answers have ever been found 💔
@aslider233 жыл бұрын
I absolutely HATE SEEING CASES THAT INVOLVE CHILDREN. How can anyone even think about harming such an innocent thing?!
@josierae67003 жыл бұрын
I feel this way about both children & animals Omg 😭😭😭😭
@aslider233 жыл бұрын
@@josierae6700 anything with an animal kills me i totally get that! I don’t get people 😭
@starlite3693 жыл бұрын
It’s BECAUSE they’re so innocent, which adds a whole other level of horror. Psychopaths should be locked up from childhood 🤷🏻♀️ At least monitored.
@starlite3693 жыл бұрын
@@josierae6700 Especially veal 😔
@Staronat3 жыл бұрын
Especially assaulting them... So disturbing
@aliea493 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you guys bring awareness to cases that are cold. I almost forgot I had heard about this years ago. These beautiful girls shouldn't be forgotten.
@AshleyLebedev3 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful comment xx
@DD-ss2cx3 жыл бұрын
As ‘crazy’ as it sounds, I would 1000% believe my child if they were to have some sort of premonition of something happening
@Ena481453 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's crazy at all. Humans have some weird unique ability to sense danger. I don't believe in much but I do believe that
@natalieparks983 жыл бұрын
My mom calls it her “gut feeling” and honestly she’s right half of the time.
@teaspoonsofpeanutbutter64253 жыл бұрын
She wasn't exactly stating what was guna happen though. She only said "everyone's guna die tomorrow". Kids say such weird crap. It's nothing you'd necessarily take as a warning, just a bit creepy.
@AshleyLebedev3 жыл бұрын
I wake up every few years to an emergency happening without my being able to hear it. The body ‘knows’ and senses in a way that we cannot find or prove. Totally.
@carrieadcock12503 жыл бұрын
I think most of us woudl
@kaelinoel39273 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me why this man, who was obviously a hardened criminal…had over 1000 people attend his funeral? Even if he didn’t kill those girls…there were obviously numerous other offenses that he did commit hence his enormously long prison sentence. I just don’t understand why so many people would attend the funeral of someone who raped pregnant women.
@eveyevolves55303 жыл бұрын
Because you’re assuming the general population has any common sense or empathy..
@clairerose69073 жыл бұрын
That is so messed up. There are tons of amazing people who don’t get nearly that many people attending their funerals… this is very upsetting.
@felicitymcconville43223 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@sparkii_sparxx3 жыл бұрын
Gene Leroy Hart was seen as a local football hero and was well respected for his heritage in his home town. Unfortunately a lot of people didn't believe he hurt anybody because of his heritage, which is kinda messed up. There's interviews of people saying how they don't believe he'd "hurt those girls" but it was purely out if blind bias. It's messed up but that's the reason so many people attended his funeral. Too many people just didn't want to believe.
@haleynicolewbu07043 жыл бұрын
same reason people idolize Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer I’m sure 🤦♀️ morons
@lovelifelaugh27273 жыл бұрын
The notes found saying “kill three girls” on camp grounds makes me think someone who was working at the camp was involved not an outsider.
@elizabethfairbairn12953 жыл бұрын
I thought this they even moved one of the girls out of that tent so it was only 3 girls in there not 4..
@selmar7093 жыл бұрын
I agree very bizarre
@c.anneee3 жыл бұрын
Yes I think if someone there wasn’t personally involved they either contacted a person/people they knew to come commit the crime.
@leavemealone55203 жыл бұрын
Yup the counselors did it
@ashleygray40343 жыл бұрын
I had the same thought. Did they thoroughly investigate the counselors and other camp staff?? Hope so
@MK-Hogan3 жыл бұрын
I come from a family that’s big on camp culture and many of my cousins have been counselors. Camp counselors are literally kids themselves. They’re usually great kids and help out a lot but they should never be ultimately responsible for anything, much less the safety of young kids or dangerous things. Everything should be double checked by adults.
@KatherineSundgren3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I don't care if 18 is considered a legal adult, they're still young and are barely an adult yet. There for sure needed to be older adults there to help the counselors.
@Emmysn0w3 жыл бұрын
I was a counselor at 16 and my campers were ranged from 8-13 the fact that I was in charge of their well being day and night is insane
@hachi71003 жыл бұрын
@@KatherineSundgren don't give 18 year olds if you don't trust them to be the adults that they are.
@breakfastattiffanys7413 жыл бұрын
Applicants should be minimum 21 experienced in first aid/childcare/counselling certificate at the very least. Childcare cert I believe is a 4 year course and that's a 7-10 hours a day job not weeks straight 😯
@hachi71003 жыл бұрын
Not where I am I got my certification to work in a daycare when I was 16 and I graduated at 18 although maybe I'm a special case. @@breakfastattiffanys741
@brieheredia60983 жыл бұрын
Kendall choking up after Denise's letter really shows how these cases get to those who share them. Thank you Kendall, Josh, and Janelle for sharing so many people's stories, even when it's difficult. You guy's do so much for these cases and we are all so proud of each of you!
@creatorssleepiestguy24903 жыл бұрын
i’m native and i absolutely despise the fact that Sam Pigeon protected him. prior to colonization our ancestors literally exiled and left to die to the elements or executed people who sexually abused someone. him being protected by a medicine man was not traditional in any sense. what he did to those those pregnant women alone would’ve landed him dead immediately if traditional practices were actually followed. edit as i progress further into the episode. also. stop saying flesh pedestrian. you’re not meant to say their names, it can attract them to you. also different tribes have different beliefs on them, though they aren’t usually believed to be medicine men who can shape shift. they’re actually moreso a metaphor for abusers and predators, and they’re not outside of the four corners. and also, there’s no singular native american culture.
@joanbowden34483 жыл бұрын
I also just commented on the fact that he used "bad medicine" to protect himself. I know a lot of ppl don't believe in that sort of thing, but I'm half Native American & I certainly do believe in it. I remember all the stories my gramma used to tell when I was a kid.
@marissavallejo29873 жыл бұрын
this is the second time i hear of someone saying or warning - not to say their name. very eerie
@taqueriaallen45593 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to get a story or so your gram told you??
@marcy92842 жыл бұрын
This whole comment is the best! When I heard them say that phrase my hackles immediately went up. Thank you for writing this.
@annhowcroft94932 жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking up, I am not native American, but I found it hard to believe that a real medicine man would protect a criminal.
@eveyevolves55303 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the worst imaginable nightmares as a parent.
@micheller22832 жыл бұрын
This is why i won't let my daughter go to the girl scouts camp every summer. I just am too afraid so she doesn't need do go to camp. She's camped out with them, but I don't let her go to the sleep away camp
@christin69552 жыл бұрын
“Yelling help and calling out for their mom” THAT BROKE ME. As a mom myself, I couldn’t imagine my baby yelling for me and me not coming to save her 💔
@sarafisher39292 жыл бұрын
My absolute worst nightmare !
@mariannarodriguez99522 жыл бұрын
🥺😭
@a.walters1232 жыл бұрын
Yes that was the piece of factual information that broke me. I can’t even fathom what her mother went through knowing that her daughter died in the dark, experiencing extreme terror and calling out for her. 💔
@kayleehilburn3156 Жыл бұрын
It made me cry just hearing that
@Mocharocks99663 жыл бұрын
The poor girl Michelle’s goodbye to her mom broke my heart . The way she asked her mom to tend to the plants was the final goodbye that her mother never guessed would be the last 😣
@michellep18343 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn’t they tell the parents which children had died? That’s horrifying all the parents waiting and then calling each child by name. What the hell? Damn, I was born in ‘73 so not sure why this surprised me but it did.🤦🏻♀️
@lizclon13823 жыл бұрын
I am a camp counselor and I am 19 years old. I am 5”3 and 100 lbs. if I were the “adult” in that situation I 1. Don’t think I would have any thing to offer in terms of helping them and 2. Would be so scared myself that I don’t know if I could mentally attempt to do anything. I don’t blame these counselors but I do full heartily blame the camp for not having an actual adult with loads of expierence and a weapon!
@emmawilson59482 жыл бұрын
My grandmother was the second counselor to see the bodies and it was a very hard time for her.
@kyyyyyyyyym3652 жыл бұрын
@@emmawilson5948 oh no 🥺🥺
@CiarraMMichelle2 жыл бұрын
I agree. There should be trained security guards who handle tasks such as walking into the woods at night to investigate when screams are being heard. Camp counselors are there to be counselors, to soothe the nerves of children and teach them how to make stick-figure crafts.
@imtheitchyouneedtoscratch2 жыл бұрын
Then you shouldn't be a camp counsellor then PERIOD!!!😡
@beanblossombaby2 жыл бұрын
In 1977 there hadn’t really been any reason to NEED an armed security guard y’all. We didn’t even lock our doors.
@alphabyaccident59733 жыл бұрын
Can you cover Katy Clays Indianapolis from the 90’s? She was my next door neighbor that was 6 years old abducted and found burned in a dumpster. It is still a cold case, I actually reached out to the detective this summer. I have more information and appreciate what you all do. Rest in heaven and prayers for all the babies/ children taken 😞
@Krystal_Clearr3 жыл бұрын
Hoping for a video on this case
@sarahsweeney70483 жыл бұрын
So sorry to hear this and hope she finds justice. Thank you for trying to bring her case to more eyes. So sad.
@shagunsegan25262 жыл бұрын
Interacting with this comment so it gets noticed.
@lindsayinthemountains2 жыл бұрын
Be sure to submit the request on their intake link. The link is in the description of this video 🙏🏻
@chrystalsartsycreations55522 жыл бұрын
She has a link in her Description Box to submit cases
@emileydoss13363 жыл бұрын
The camp is only 20 minutes away from where I grew up but no one ever talked about the case. It so crazy to me, and so sad for the victims and families. Thank you for bringing awareness to the case.
@lindseyhendrix24053 жыл бұрын
Do you think someone going there to cover this story would stir some things up or no?
@emileydoss13363 жыл бұрын
@@lindseyhendrix2405 probably! But who would do that?
@TheSaltRose3 жыл бұрын
Peggs?
@Thelibramom3 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing. I was just complaining of having nothing to listen to while I work and then BOOM! Mile Higher coming in to save the day once again. 😂❤️
@kimberlybungard42733 жыл бұрын
I am a girl scout leader and I literally don't sleep when we take our girls on any over nights. I might rest my eyes for a few minutes but I hear everything!
@Analaya7493 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard this story about 3 times but I will always watch what y’all post ✊
@mathildeb27103 жыл бұрын
haha same when they cover cases they or Kendall already have I still listen :D
@KelseyKaotic3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a mom, terrified, anxiously waiting to see your baby girl get off the bus. Only to find out your baby was never on that bus and is never coming home. My heart goes out to these three girls families, and I hope these owners (CALLING THEIR LAWYERS) feel their pain always...
@lmconti57283 жыл бұрын
This brought me to tears hearing one of the girls was calling for her mama. :(
@Krystal_Clearr3 жыл бұрын
💔💔💔
@allamericananti-christ6662 жыл бұрын
I'm sure all three were.
@kayleehilburn3156 Жыл бұрын
Being pregnant and thing if my child was calling for me I would be devastated. It made me cry hearing that
@nicolefink92103 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing for this dreary cold day! Thank you! Y’all are the best!!!!!
@jimmyespin42803 жыл бұрын
Where are you located at. Here in dallas is the same way!
@mellyxo19403 жыл бұрын
Ottawa, Canada too!
@nicolefink92103 жыл бұрын
Pennsylvania!
@autibee693 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyespin4280 I’m in Dallas as well. Definitely cold and rainy
@jimmyespin42803 жыл бұрын
@@autibee69 haha right!
@valjohnny083 жыл бұрын
I love when Kendall says "JOSHUAAA!" 😂
@rosemead43103 жыл бұрын
Omg me too!!
@Noey873 жыл бұрын
Same!!! Time stamp 7:45!!! 🤘👍✌
@starlite3693 жыл бұрын
I want what they have 😫😩
@purrsuasively2 жыл бұрын
i think that was janelle? lol
@yystez2 жыл бұрын
@@purrsuasively no, it was kendall. janelle was the one that said 'you nasty'
@emilymargaret67703 жыл бұрын
I tried to watch this and could only get to around 6:30. Commenting to boost engagement but tapping out. Idk why some cases are harder to stomach. Thank you for bringing awareness to so many cases. You all are amazing!
@criticalidentity50303 жыл бұрын
I bawled my eyes out this whole episode.... so disturbing 😫
@starlite3693 жыл бұрын
You made the right choice. Kudos to you for following your gut and still showing them support 🙌🏻
@ten-dimensional3 жыл бұрын
watching these makes me think....we are living in a strange hell.
@ellamayoxoxo95102 жыл бұрын
@@ten-dimensional I agree 😔
@foreverwander03203 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the 80s and 90s. When I was 6 I would roam around neighborhoods by myself for hours. My parents just wanted me back by dark. As an older kid I rode my bike miles away, and we didn’t have cell phones to stay in contact. They never knew where I was. By the early 2000s, when I was a young adult, true crime stuff was starting to become popular and only then did my parents start checking in and worrying about me. Times really have changed! We were kind of naive back then.
@mangomonet24643 жыл бұрын
This is the most disturbing case I’ve heard in a while
@rudiedavis44073 жыл бұрын
When I went to girls scout camp in the early 2000’s when I was about 7-9 we had the same set up. All of the campers stayed in cabins alone and the counselors had their own cabin. It always seemed really weird to me and I never wanted to go back lol
@MileHigher3 жыл бұрын
That is so strange!
@laurencullen29973 жыл бұрын
I went to Girl Scout camp once. I would’ve been 9 or so. It was a summer boat camp. We camped out in tents. Each group had their own camp area and we had our own tents. The counselors slept elsewhere.
@laurencullen29973 жыл бұрын
This would’ve been in 98 or 99
@debheimler7273 жыл бұрын
The year after this, I stayed in a CampFireGirls camp in Oklahoma for a 10 day summer camp. The camp site I stayed in was 6 covered wagons. Each wagon slept 6 girls, and the wagon in the middle held the counselors. We had wooden doors that locked, but we were always going to the latrine in the middle of the night. Nothing had changed even after this awful crime.
@cuurlybangs3 жыл бұрын
Wow that's scary! I went to camp at the same time but was a little older than you 12/13ish. We had cabins with 4 bunkbeds and a single bed for the counselor that was closest to the door. Our counselors were only 15-20-years-old themselves so I'm not sure what they really could have done for us, but at least they had one in each cabin! There was also a rule that if you needed to go to the bathroom during the night you were supposed to wake someone else up. You were never to walk at night around camp alone. I didn't know it as a kid but this case is probably why!
@lisagoodhart70223 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how I live in Broken Arrow Oklahoma and I have NEVER heard of this case. I'm glad to hear it now and that y'all are raising awareness!!
@paigeanderson80552 жыл бұрын
I live in BA too
@k.s.13443 жыл бұрын
Excited to watch to give this case the attention it deserves. * Can you please do the Colonial Parkway Killer??? The brother of one of the victims, Bill Thomas has been a tireless advocate for decades now. It's beyond time for the CP serial killer case to be solved and his many victims to receive justice. Thank you for all you do!
@saraholson12213 жыл бұрын
When I was a counselor at a girlscout camp here in Colorado we used alot of examples from this case to protect the girls and have systems in place due to these girls murders. Its truly horrifying because theres so many things that could happen at a camp no matter how safe. I love when yall cover these infamous girl scout cases because I grew up just hearing the "rumors" about these cases, now I'm understanding why we did alot of these things the way we did.
@leavemealone55203 жыл бұрын
I really believe the counselors are involved
@taqueriaallen45593 жыл бұрын
It just makes sense
@hey_flannery3 жыл бұрын
I am torn on whether or not more than one person is involved. On one hand, these are THREE young girls. Surely one may have escaped and sounded the alarm, but at the same time, they're three YOUNG girls.... they were scared, confused, maybe freshly woken up, disoriented, etc. I just am not sold entirely on the idea that one person could've done this and, aside from the counselors, NOBODY heard anything? Not even the girls staying in tent 6/7 (whichever you prefer)?? I don't know. This is awful, and with it being so so so long, I'm not sure these families will see true justice, i.e. someone being arrested & charged- however I desperately hope they get answers at the very least.
@penquin4023 жыл бұрын
Actually one girl in another unit heard one of the girls scream Mama but thought it was one of the girls having a nightmare.
@hey_flannery3 жыл бұрын
@@penquin402 oh gosh . that’s even more chilling
@primcasiha3 жыл бұрын
there was a storm going on though. maybe that's why the killer(s) chose that day. but i too believe there was more than 1 person involved.
@ten-dimensional3 жыл бұрын
I agree, more were involved.
@TheSaltRose3 жыл бұрын
You really think of the other *children* heard anything, they wouldn’t be absolutely terrified and silent?
@savhannah98893 жыл бұрын
What an awful thing for the parents to be waiting to see if their child would get off the bus. I can't even imagine that type of anxiety and stress.
@cherib1913 жыл бұрын
First let me say I love your KZbin channels. Thank you for choosing this job, long time listener. Summer of 1977, I was 9 years old. I was scheduled to go to girls scout camp that year and all of a sudden my mom backed out. I loved camp and I didn’t know why I couldn’t go. OMG now I know.
@GooseAdvocate3 жыл бұрын
My mother lived in OK when this happened and she's always discussed the case with me and wanted answers. Good to see you all covering it.
@geminismom4u3 жыл бұрын
It's pouring here in the ATX, I have to work from home and take an exam in my nursing program later, BUT this day just improved exponentially seeing this post, thanks guys! 💘
@calibdaygo3 жыл бұрын
Good luck on your exam!
@moonmade10963 жыл бұрын
You go, mama! Good luck with your exam!
@hollyyvette3 жыл бұрын
i love that you guys still take the time to cover old cases. this is one of the most chilling i have ever heard, especially since the area where this happened is close to where i live. children are so innocent, its terrifying the evil that lurks on this earth. you guys did a great job covering this.
@vaughniebaker29212 жыл бұрын
I live around 4 hours from where this happened and I was a Girl Scout at the time. We had a week long camp we were supposed to go to and they almost canceled it because of what happened. They decided to let us go (Lake Pauline at Copper Breaks State Park in Quanah, TX) even though the killer hadn't been caught. They just brought in police to watch over our camp area. I remember the first night we were all afraid. So, we took our shoestrings and tied them on the zipper of the tent (thinking that no one could come in that way). Our ages were 9-11 years old. We didn't know any better. Anyway, later in the night. One of the girls had to go to the latrine. Well, as we were trying to untie the shoestrings. We saw a shadow on the outside of the tent. We were so scared. We whispered to each other that on the count of 3 we would scream real loud for our troop leader. So on the 3rd count we all started screaming and you could see the shadow jump sky high and they dropped their flashlight. It ended up being a police officer who was walking around the tents making sure everything was ok. We laugh about it now, but it was true terror back then. LOL
@criticalidentity50303 жыл бұрын
As a mother, I don't think I could mentally go on living afterwards knowing what happened to my little girl.... how terrified they must have been. So absolutely disturbing 😭
@okiegalpage45523 жыл бұрын
I was so excited to see this! I live about 15 miles from where this happened. Our lives changed that day. Never to be normal again. My dad was a local law enforcer. He was just torn up over this.
@Nottartsharas3 жыл бұрын
This is the most heart breaking case I’ve heard, I couldn’t imagine being those little girls’ families. You two are so respectful and I give you so much credit to be able to talk about these stories… not easy to do. Thank you for all that you two do. 🖤
@outlandish.history3 жыл бұрын
The case of Tina Hogan from 1986 in Lawton, Oklahoma is a case that still needs justice. She was selling candy bars for school when she was abducted and murdered.
@wanderlovesus77772 жыл бұрын
I wonder why so many murder cases happens a lot in the Midwest states.. how Disturbing 😳 and yet people talk negativity about New York.
@mikaylahenderson163 жыл бұрын
This is going to sound so weird but Kendall really got me through high school, I watched all her videos non stop and on reply,… she is just so beautiful and an amazing soul! I absolutely love her stories her talk about and really helps me!! But hers the weird part,…I love the name Rae so much that I named my stillborn angel baby middle that. So she’s Sadie Rae. Kendall is such a light, love her 😍
@Ladybug222273 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@morgangallagher71143 жыл бұрын
I hope kendall reads your comment, she probably would be honored to hear your kind words ❤️
@starlite3693 жыл бұрын
“A light” is the PERFECT way to describe her 🤍
@kimkardashianjong-un62992 жыл бұрын
She’s so comforting
@Backintime4you3 жыл бұрын
I had to take a break from this episode. This case has me in tears. I have a little boy and if this ever happened to him I would die, so my heat is with those parents that lost their little girls.
@kacidenise74963 жыл бұрын
I'm at work listening and when the little girl had the premonition I got chills all over! My child and I would have drove home
@huntercunningham74013 жыл бұрын
All of these cases are heartbreaking but when children are involved it really cuts to the core. Sooooo devastating I cannot imagine. I used to always want to go to camp when I was a kid. Supposed to be a fun and safe place. I hope justice is served someday! RIP beautiful angels
@papatoker82643 жыл бұрын
You guys always cover these cases so respectfully while also bringing light to it. Awesome job
@czarinacuison90823 жыл бұрын
I died LOL when he said he spent his time at camp in the girls cabin 🤣🤣🤣🤣 lmao I love you guys! My favorite podcasters!
@MileHigher3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support! :)
@Noey873 жыл бұрын
Per the map at 16:43 the girls in tent 8 were 86 yards away from the counselors?!?!? That's almost a whole football field. Why weren't tents and buildings not closer together?
@beabeabea32 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing the math and comparison 😳 that’s ridiculous, who would think that would be a good idea??
@Noey872 жыл бұрын
@@beabeabea3 I was a major "camp kid" in the early 90's, and I loved going every summer. I don't ever remember buildings/tents being that far apart or even being anywhere alone, day or night, without a counselor very close by. And every single camp used the "buddy system" even 1 specially had us in groups of 3. I know those kids felt unsafe from the start, I can't imagine the trauma.
@ashleyvalentine27902 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!
@ArtZen1112 жыл бұрын
Omg I remember being in the furthest tent at Timberlake of circle t and was always concerned we were so far away from everyone
@Mocharocks99663 жыл бұрын
The girls were brutally murdered on my birthday . The day my family and friends celebrate my birth, 3 families are mourning the death of their daughters . This coming June 13th I will now pray for them and have bring awareness to this horrific crime .
@karlaguzman4843 жыл бұрын
So sketchy that the camp lawyered up right away . Very horrific and sad case . I hope one day the families can get answers
@presleybrown46262 жыл бұрын
this case absolutely haunts me. I constantly think about them in their last moments calling out for their mamas. I hope they feel safe wherever they are now.
@nellybeier9512 жыл бұрын
This is the only video I wish I didn't watch for that reason. That sentence broke me. I have 2 little girls and I can't imagine the horror these poor babies and their families went through.
@melissacox12733 жыл бұрын
I was 11 years old when this happen and was a girls scout. I lived in a small town in northeastern Oklahoma. That Summer or the next I can't remember when, we went to girl scout camp and I remember that the fathers had to come to camp and search it and stand guard while we were there. I didn't know why at the time but I found out later when I got older.
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@pascalswager91003 жыл бұрын
We are all celebrating Cleo Smith being found alive after 18 days here in Australia. Will You guy's cover it? The information coming out about him is so strange! Single man who was obsessed with dolls!
@Clownbunnycosplay3 жыл бұрын
They cried for help, and they did noting? It hurts me so much, even if it was noting you should still check on them, even if it was just them scared of the rain.
@Angstlarry3 жыл бұрын
I used to go to Girl Scout camp every year and a few times we had those platform tent set ups. Once I woke up in my sleeping bag outside on the ground because I had rolled off the side of my cot in the middle of the night, out the side of the tent, off the platform, and onto the ground somehow all without waking up. They really do have zero security.
@alondracontreras96473 жыл бұрын
😳😓
@ArtZen1112 жыл бұрын
I remember 🦂 on the floor and tent flaps
@jillianmathers18273 жыл бұрын
I have troubles sleeping since I work night shift but your guy’s videos always help me fall asleep, your voices are so calming. Don’t worry I still watch when I’m awake too !
@yp4453 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying that you’ve been doing lesser known of or forgot about cases. Enjoying these cases about Oklahoma too lol
@charlotterose23263 жыл бұрын
I just absolutely LOVE how you both have such a kind heart and beautiful soul! You guys actually care about what you are talking about and the dynamic between you 2 is absolutely amazing and inspirational! I swear you both finding each other is what books and dreams are made of-actual soulmates. I’m happy that it’s you guys that got your soulmate-you 2 deserve it more than anyone I’ve ever known!! You both deserve the best life has to offer! Thank you guys so much for having the kindness we all need to show others!! (Sorry for the sap-idk where that came from…well it came from my heart. I wanted you both to know how important you both are to all of us!)
@hollid_makeupandreviews3 жыл бұрын
I am new to Oklahoma. I live in Owasso OK originally from Kansas City MO. This story is very horrifying!! Love your guys Podcasts!
@haileelogan20313 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for your incredible content ❤️ you guys keep me going with every Mile Higher production!! Also, Miami, OK is pronounced “Miam-uh” instead of “Miam-ee”
@ericaking02243 жыл бұрын
Neat!
@AARSTILLWATERhomeys3 жыл бұрын
I was about to comment this lol.
@MileHigher3 жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@kortneywahkinney3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! born and raised in OK and I was just about to post about Miami pronunciation lol
@Katieexboo3 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for helping me get through my days at work 🙏🏼
@rosielarson44783 жыл бұрын
I always appreciate the care with which you bring these awful cases to our attention. You’re very respectful and gentle in your approach. I also appreciate the respect you two have for each other. You’re obviously very much in love.
@kclemishire3 жыл бұрын
This is from my home town. One of the girl’s mothers is a client of mine. A heartbreaking tragedy.
@katherineeagle37803 жыл бұрын
My mother aged out of an orphanage called Whittaker in Pryor,Oklahoma in 1976. I was raised in Coweta,OK which is about 30-40 mins Southwest of Locust Grove. I would always ask to join the Girl Scouts and my mother would always say no and tell me about this case. I of course was naive and thought it was a bizarre story she would tell so she wouldn't have to spend money.I honestly didn't know it was true!! God rest these beautiful girls souls.
@justynepaige95363 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of this. How awful, truly breaks my heart for those girls. How can people be so damn cruel 😭 thanks for shedding light on this case. I hope it’s officially solved some day.
@alexisbighorse999824 күн бұрын
As a Cherokee woman watching this video I have never heard the details you have given and I love your channel!
@diablocell3 жыл бұрын
Just finished the video.. thinking back to "you'll never pin it on me".. I think we can all agree that if it wasn't him, he was at least involved in some way. And that the multiple flashlights, etc. meant that he had accomplices, and 'you'll never pin it' on him alone. What a tragic story.. I feel so bad for the families. When I was a boy scout in the 90s every tent had an adult.
@morgan82742 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately all the new information about Boy Scouts doesn’t make that reassuring
@kristaljessel3 жыл бұрын
Love how you guys bring attention to alot of different cases! Do yall think you can make another video on beliver vs skeptic before the year ends?! Those are super fun too watch!!
@mccollmeevie31908 ай бұрын
The whole concept of sending young children to camp for weeks at a time boggles my mind (from Scotland) and to learn a lot of the counselors are teenagers themselves is even more wild.
@ceetee69393 жыл бұрын
Its refreshing to hear stories not commonly talked about but also devastating as helll too
@CieraMychele3 жыл бұрын
Looking at that horseshoe tent shape, it surprises me that the counselor tent wasn't in the middle so they could see all the other tests
@valleriames88242 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Flint Creek Oklahoma. Just down the road from dripping springs. I was 11 years old when this happened and remember all the stories that surrounded it. My aunt talks about the tragic event to this day. My family still lives there to this day . Thanks for bringing awareness to it.
@Idedicatethishandletomycats3 жыл бұрын
Lori's letter is so cute: "Dear mom and dad and, and, and ..."
@lindseyhendrix24053 жыл бұрын
I loved that part! I’d imagine one was a pet, too. 😂♥️
@Idedicatethishandletomycats3 жыл бұрын
@@lindseyhendrix2405 yes, so typical for a child. You could make it easy by writing "hello everyone" or "hello dear family". Everyone has to be included, it's adorable.
@cassieg98003 жыл бұрын
I'm just having such a shitty morning. Seeing that you guys posted this just made my day. I love you both!! 🥰🥰🥰
@hartleyb83563 жыл бұрын
Hope your day gets better!
@clairerose69073 жыл бұрын
What happened? You ok? Me too… I spiraled out of control and am calming down from that.
@s.gentle51563 жыл бұрын
Sending love and light to you ladies! To everyone! ♥️
@paigepowell33383 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you were able to report on this. I’m from Tulsa myself and this is one of the cases that made me interested in true crime.
@kfb1412 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Oklahoma. I've been to that camp several times and stayed in those tents. I remember getting up alone in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom. I was never scared but I guess I should have been. I was 18 when this happened, it has haunted ever since.
@thryssinstitches96553 жыл бұрын
I'm from Oklahoma and was born in 84. This case is why I wasn't allowed to do overnight camps bc my mom wasn't convinced the killer had been found
@feyrannahunter10622 жыл бұрын
I wasn't born until a few years after this but very close to Locust Grove and I wasn't allowed to be in scouts at all because of it.
@strategic17102 жыл бұрын
I’m from Tulsa and was born in 84 also. It floors me that I’ve never heard of this or had never heard of the family murder in broken arrow. I went to a camp but there were bigger tents and a counselor in each one.
@jenniferwilson34363 жыл бұрын
When I was in girl scouts in Florida, we were required to stay at a Girl Scout Camp, and all of them had cabins with bunk beds in them with locks on them. I wonder if this caused this? There was one campsite that had tents similar to the ones shown in this video, but all sites were visible to our troop leaders. The camp also had a security at the main entrance. This case is so tragic!!
@chestex.3 жыл бұрын
Currently watching this as I am feeding my best friends son. As soon as he hears Josh’s voice he starts giggling and smiling. 😍
@AmandaLeigh10043 жыл бұрын
How does a jury only deliberate for 5 minutes?! Is that even legal??
@ArtZen1112 жыл бұрын
Omg they were poisoned in the head
@jessicayoung62082 жыл бұрын
This case is so sad. Thank you for talking about cold cases. These girls should always be remembered.
@jaz_elizabeth3 жыл бұрын
I think this is the first episode that made me cry. I lost it at the letters just thinking how heartbreaking that would be as the parents. If I had children I’ve always wanted to send them to camp because I’ve never been but with everything else, you just never know.
@shainariker733 жыл бұрын
This is so crazy! I’m from this area and did not know about this, my dad grew up in locust grove and my mom and grandparents live in Chouteau. I’m so glad you are bringing awareness I will definitely check out the documentary!
@rosemead43103 жыл бұрын
When you hear of a Girl Scout camp, you associate it with sweet little girls, fun and laughter.. you wouldn’t imagine such horror could be possible in these places.. this made me sob and my heart breaks for them🥺💔
@lindsay333333 жыл бұрын
You guys are the best. Even the companies you guys have for promotions just seem practical for the working group of people today. Thanks guys keeps up the great work!
@katrina22293 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to watch this on this dreary rainy morning! Also will you guys be restocking the tie dye MHP shirts in the merch shop? Adding stuff to my Christmas list and missed out on the first drop!!
@JB-cb7dx3 жыл бұрын
I was JUST thinking about this case. As someone who went to Girl Scout camp often growing up it has really stuck with me. So tragic.
@hardysqueen13 жыл бұрын
I'm an empath with horrible anxiety and I think Denise and her family had an idea of what was gonna happen. I don't blame anyone but I wish they were taken seriously
@draculena2 жыл бұрын
>.>
@mareike85893 жыл бұрын
My friend and I used to go to camp every summer until we found out that a girl was raped at the same camp we were at- never went again. This case is incredibly sad and I hope the bastard who did it got his karma even if it wasn't by police
@xtcharmed3 жыл бұрын
i get so much serotonin when josh says “aye whats up everybody” makes me so excited lmaooo!!!
@Duchessinok2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this. I remember when this happened. I was 7 and lived in Oklahoma City at the time. It was a really frightening time and it's always been heartbreaking.
@madisonruth04103 жыл бұрын
Yayyyy perfect timing while I'm slow at work thanks you guys
@marjolainechoquette3 жыл бұрын
Omg! I was just watching an old ponder vid! I've never been that early. Ready to clean and listen to you guys. Xx
@audreylalumiere61423 жыл бұрын
so very sad! I can't imagine what all those moms and dads went through in that brutal time! As a mother myself I wouldnt want to live without knowing what happend. Thanks for sharing this story I never heard about this one before .
@ShaunaWest-Punky8 ай бұрын
I am in tears 😭 right now!! Especially hearing how the parents were waiting for the girls to exit from the school bus!! 💔 I’m a mother and this breaks my heart to shreds 😢
@honeydew_subliminal6 ай бұрын
It was a very cruel way to announce which girls died
@heatherkeegan31483 жыл бұрын
Where did Michelle’s parents work? The other two girls had parents working at the hospital… doris’s mom was a hospital lab tech and laurie’s dad was the hospital ER coordinator… could there be a connection with the hospital to the murders? Maybe a patient had something overlooked or a family member had something overlooked and died or was seriously injured bc of it… just a thought… I’m still listening I’m not even 1/4 if the way through but it was the first connection I thought about…
@dianaselnekovicova9483 жыл бұрын
Interesting point
@Estelahojas89203 жыл бұрын
Amazon music is sponsoring mile higher?! I’m shook. So much love