Until September - The Cinema Snob

This surprisingly creepy 1984 romantic drama finally won the poll, so The Cinema Snob reviews Until September!
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Writer/Creator: Brad Jones
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[@johnkirby8939]

Oddly enough, in a deleted subplot Andrew's softball team wins the French intramural championship, leading to a tear-jerker of a scene where he dedicates the season to the memory of his fallen teammate, Saul.

[@kennethwoody5897]

And the alternate title was still, Fuck Sol.

[@cassandrapearsall4328]

Until Saultember

[@dabunnyman9133]

"And then they unfortunately" (commercial ad) "bang."

[@minski76]

Seems EXACTLY the kind of love film someone would make who thinks Every breath you take is a romantic song.

[@thewraithwriter22]

minski76 it... it's not?

[@robertromero9488]

That's a great romantic song

[@cannibalbunnygirl]

The amount of people who think that's a romantic song is scary af

[@aurorauplinks]

Its romantic in a .... "I'm a dark guardian watching over you."... but taken out of context it does become stalkerish lol

[@aurorauplinks]

I've heard both contexts of it when I'm riding in the car, I think it comes down to your world view and presumptions about others intents

[@kawax7195]

As a french man, seeing Thierry Lhermitte in a Cinema Snob episode is oddly satisfying

[@ns2110theonly]

Kawax as an American woman, seeing Thierry Lhermitte in anything anywhere at any time, is sheer perfection, exceeded only by the Barry score. But just by a hair.

[@fleacythesheepgirl]

"You shouldn't have agreed to go to dinner with me if you didn't want to have sex" * Asks his boss to dinner in the next scene *

[@Khanemis]

That's probably why he was rejected by the coworker/boss - he is not going to fall for that twice.

[@BigJay039]

LMAO. That was my exact thought. Maybe it's because I'm of a younger generation, but I was taught that no, she does NOT owe you sex just because you bought her dinner.

[@fleacythesheepgirl]

@@BigJay039 I'm constantly surprised by how emotionally intelligent and articulate young people are these days. Of course there are always a few bad apples but in general I'm so proud of you guys :D

[@planescaped]

A classic tale of horrible people being horrible but it's romantic because the genre says so.

[@TheBattlesword]

planescaped how does everyone somehow keep discovering movies worse than Twilight?

[@696190]

@@TheBattlesword people are finally looking for them.

[@TheMojaveLamp]

A notable member of this sub-genre is 50 Shades, of course.

[@misterintrovert]

Until September movie link please

[@BigJay039]

Not to mention r@pey = romantic because he's hot and French.

[@bunkerzero]

Ah finally a film that uses "Every breath you take" the right way!

[@trustno173]

Eh, I think Cat's Eye used it pretty well.

[@tobiassundquist446]

"Why are you so difficult?" as he tries to force her to kiss him. This movie is . . . something

[@mightyfilm]

Counterpoint. Why WOULDN'T you vote for the forgotten melodrama? Those are some of the best reviews.

[@planescaped]

Movies like these are what comes to mind when I think of "Cinema Snob". Weird and Obscure older hollywood schlock, and they more often than not are Brad's best episodes IMO. More relevant and recognizable movies probably get more views though I imagine.

[@BigJay039]

​@@planescaped TBH, the main reason I watched it was because CS references it in other videos. I'm glad I did. This was gold.

[@1970karlsberg]

“...eyes that Dr. Loomis and Quint warned us about!” A Halloween & a Jaws reference in the same joke? Just about had me in tears. 😆

[@1970karlsberg]

Finn Cullin “Michael Myers can’t stay down with three barrels on him!”

[@scitechian]

The wine tasting scene was a wasted opportunity. "Here, try this - it's a more complex wine." "Really? It still tastes like Robitussin."

[@popick86]

Wake me up when September ends.

[@bayonetababe9697]

Nice reference. I love that song.

[@tushyakatiyar7164]

"He is the kind of romantic leading man that has the audience wondering when the real leading man will turn up and wipe this guy out of the picture." 🤣

[@MrMillionDub]

Y'know, between this guy, Clay Walsh, and Christian Grey, maybe Lifetime is onto something after all.

[@emperorcupcake]

Wait, so her name's Mo and she's from MO?

[@markabboud8564]

Melissa R. Plus, her favorite song is Billy Idol-Rebel Yell, cause in the midnight hour, she cries Mo Mo Mo!

[@zetetick395]

Turns out the scriptwriter is a creep AND a smart alec

[@donaldpetkus1637]

“Neutered Pepe Le Peu”-what a great character summary.

[@gtsgreatteacherscathach5550]

I totally agree "Every Breath you Take" is the perfect song for a film as creepy as it is.

[@LuriTV]

I bet the sound editor was totally aware of what he was doing

[@titansargonautsproductions7952]

Oh...My...God. The Melodrama not only won, but it turned out to be creepier and more disturbing than any of the actual horror films on the poll. I haven't been this horrified at a film you've done since Old Fashioned. Say what you will, at least all these Melodramas have been... somewhat memorable. For completely the wrong reasons, but still.

[@manticorephoenix]

Well if I'm being honest, IMHO the Snobs best work is picking apart these (at the time thought to be) harmless boring movies that when looked at objectively are horrifying tales of physical verbal or emotional abuse

[@murrfeeling]

Saw and Scream are fairly solid. Everyone with even a moderate interest in 1980's horror has seen Phantasm and can tell you why it's weird. Non-pornographic, deep dives into the forgotten fringe of cinema are Snob's most compelling stuff, even more so when it's a genre that hasn't gotten a lot of heat for its turkeys. Most people can diagnose a shitty 60's sci-fi, for example. A troubled 80's romance movie takes a more refined touch.

[@RaspbrylZ]

I'm so happy the forgotten melodrama won again.

[@PapaTaurean]

I think this would have been better if he was more Inspector Cluseau, and less Le Clay Walsh

[@nakenmil]

80s romance was apparently just passive-aggresiveness.

[@PsychicGirl17]

And occasionally sexual assault and almost rape apparently.

[@starlights13]

"A series of Terrible Decisions" the movie.

[@e11aguru]

This would have been much better as an intentional thriller. The guy is good at playing creepy.

[@Godzilla52]

I'm pretty sure this guy is just European Patrick Batemen, but they cut the serial killer plot out of the movie.

[@stonecoldku4161]

"What in the holy hell did they do to their eyes?" I think they're both turning into the Lou Ferrigno/Bill Bixby version of The Incredible Hulk. That would somehow make more sense than the romance in this movie.

[@splinky9226]

Either that or the Tommyknockers somehow ended up in Paris and came in contact with the two.

[@neildennis7294]

Thanks for pinpointing for me what film killed Karen Allen’s career👍. With Raiders and Animal House, I couldn’t figure out how she dropped off the map in the 80s.

[@tadweird1766]

She was enjoyable in Scrooged, and that was released in '88; just saying.

[@neildennis7294]

Scrooge’s and Crystal Skull...literally the only two movies I can think of her being in post this sad flick. But yeah, Scrooge’s was 1988.

[@neildennis7294]

Matthew Daley she married and gave up her career...not common for an actress but she did

[@taylorscott9292]

I don’t need a cup of coffee today, I can function on pure hatred for this movie

[@MementoMortis21]

Brad, you should totally do more clips of real time reactions. Your Snob persona is great, but sometimes we really need to see the raw, visceral reaction to feel the impact of these scenes of abject terrible acting.

[@grifftastic2745]

3:59 Holy crap, it's ginger Boris Johnson.

[@soakingbook]

This film is notable primarily for the John Barry score, which was wasted.

[@philroche4792]

Great point and precisely why I actually watched this film. I wanted to hear the Barry score and how it was utilized (and sadly, yes, wasted). What a shame as one can see the care that MGM lavished by such touches as having John Barry score the film, the excellent camerawork and editing, terrific scenes of Paris, etc. Note to studio: spend more money for better scripts.

[@loganknives]

Thierry Lhermitte is very famous in my country. He is more known for his comedic roles and he is very funny and charming. But in this movie he is so bad and creepy.

[@MrBjanders]

This review makes me want to watch Starman again, great movie with a gut-punchingly powerful performance from Karen Allen. She really deserved more good roles like that.

[@BlackAdam1231]

This is an 80s version of the Room

[@babyskadiproductions]

I kept getting The Room and Tommy Wiseau vibes from Xavier

[@geoffreysorkin5774]

Why? Because of the slap. That's not fair, Johnny did not hit her, he did nooot. Oh hai Mark.

[@DemiBirdDoes]

FINALLY a movie used Every Breath You Take appropriately to show a creepy stalker!

[@jcawthon99]

The guys eyes in the subway remind me of Lugosi’s Dracula

[@vistea1]

"And then they b-" (Advertisement interrupts the video) "-ang!"

[@quinnzykir]

I feel bad for the wife

[@TheMellowFilmmaker]

Why? She gets to pass the curse of her awful husband to someone else.

[@SalvationinCHRISTalone888]

@@TheMellowFilmmaker I think he married her for position at the bank and NOT necessarily bcz he loved her. SAD when ppl marry for “business” and not bcz they truly care for one another. The movie seem to imply that she knew that he was having various affairs (adultery) but as long as he was discreet - she did not mind/or want to know about it. It is evident he had sex with his wife too - they had children. Wow! what a horrible marriage/life.

[@lich109]

I think this film says a lot more about the writer(s) and director than they'd like to. Maybe the editor as well if they're the one who thought Every Breath should be added.

[@JW666]

If I wanted to see an awkward romance movie I watch Last Tango in Paris, thank you very much!

[@chroniclesofalivingdeadgirl]

You need more of these in your channel. I need a melodrama month.

[@ShadowAkatora]

Glad they went with such a sexy name as Moe..

[@RedmanColorado]

Short for Maureen. For decades, "Mo" was considered a cute nickname for girls named Maureen.

[@shutup7768]

An intense war ad for something cut into when he was in the middle of saying bang and I said out loud “Oh shit it killed him.”

[@edwardzuniga7598]

Even though this may seem teeeeeerible, I am a simple man. I see Karen Allen, I upvote.

[@iselin90]

we need more of Brad's honest reactions in these maybe once in a while we see Brad review a movie that the Snob has reviewed

[@FelisTerras]

Creepy, corny, awkward and thouroughly uncomfortable. Still more likeable than Old Fashioned.

[@johngleeman8347]

But not by much! XD

[@johngleeman8347]

@brandon roberts Xavier: You're a stupid child and but the lastest of my many mistresses! Girl: so romantic

[@iceheart862]

@@johngleeman8347 And then Xavier and Clay bang... hard.

[@AEW86]

Now I realize how creepy Every Breath You Take is. Thank you, Until September.

[@moviesquad73]

The plot of two strangers meeting in Europe and falling in love. Screw this movie! I'm just gonna watch Before Sunrise!

[@lindaeasley4336]

The music at the opening tells me I'd be asleep before the movie was even half way through

[@declanhandley-byrne4335]

Directed by the same man who directed Return of the Jedi, starring Marion Ravenwood, how many connections to George Lucas does this movie have?

[@LightZorel]

Man, melodramas no one remembers always end up being the creepiest thing.

[@gyromurphy]

I want a compilation of all the awkward movie scenes he uses for the outros

[@OnDavidsBrain]

Could have been worse, the male lead could have been an Ewok.

[@trustno173]

How dare you insult Warwick Davis like that!

[@trustno173]

@@matthewdaley746 I know, I'm just joking. If anything this movie would be improved by him. Also, he apparently loves doing the Leprechaun movies.

[@MrTBoneSF]

@3:58 Is that a young Boris Johnson? I mean if a certain occupant of the White House can show up in 80s schlock like Ghosts Can't Do It, why not his UK counterpart?

[@MickeyD2012]

It's an entire film about cheating on your significant other. Two thumbs down.

[@planescaped]

His wife doesn't even seem awful like a movie would normally do... he's just a complete and total asshole. And she's a total homewrecking skank because she knew he was married and still got with him. Sure the movie tries to make her more sympathetic, but they fail.

[@cannibalbunnygirl]

@@planescaped they're both the worst kind of humans. Selfish and immature. Their other halves deserve way better

[@HetLedie]

@@planescaped what I thought was worse was the fact that she knew that he was cheating with her and she still got acted all surprised when she found out about his wife

[@merchantfan]

For some reason, a *ton* of romance fits in this category. I don't get it- is it really that hard to write romances between two single people?

[@cannibalbunnygirl]

@@matthewdaley746 he certainly couldn't do much worse. Shes a terrible partner

[@cliffordshafran9250]

And for this, Karen Allen skipped "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom". Oops! At least her career recovered somewhat with "Starman", "Scrooged", and "Crystal Skull".

[@diggerfan9319]

Until September's one of those movies you have to wait until the right time to review because it's got "Until" in the title!

[@grapeshot]

She used her last magic space ball from Starman on a coffee. 🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️ And according to Bill Murray, Star Man alone with ET is one of the few good aliens.

[@kevinpatrickmacnutt]

Wow, this makes the relationship between Art Garfunkel and Theresa Russell in Bad Timing seem romantic and loving.

[@CthulhuianBunny]

I feel like if you put Xavier and Parker Stevenson in the same room together, the entire building would catch fire from the combined creepiness of their stares.

[@chrismayclin6397]

It is good to know that the Snob and I are united in our intense, unbridled hatred of Saul.

[@theivace9705]

I am proud of these voters again.

[@drunkenbuddha4361]

now that you have Thierry LHermitte does that mean your going to do La Totale! the original True lies

[@adrienfourniercom]

@Stoned Gremlin Productions I don't remember this movie. Thierry Lhermitte is highly famous in France, but, he is a famous COMEDIAN. Brad, are you sure, this is not a comedy?

[@Shamandigi62091]

So phantasm is never going to be reviewed is it

[@zombehnashun]

If he never does, you can just go watch Brendan Tenold's review of it.

[@enlightenednormie242]

@@zombehnashun or Decker Shado's review of the movie.

[@juanalfaro9268]

Or you can watch Lupa's review of Phantasm 1 through 4.

[@MrChaotic4]

It will eventually if not right away considering he reviewed Godzilla anyway after it came in second.

[@sirtalkalotdoolittle]

I think I stayed up late to watch this years ago because HBO said it had nudity. I guess I fell asleep and missed it.

[@XShadoWPaws]

The "it's not French at all" eating scene made me chuckle. Most of the French people I meet are one bad pay check away from eating out of the trash.

[@SalvationinCHRISTalone888]

REALLY!!,🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Haylitzo]

The creepy unfortunate tone of this whole movie makes sense when you remember how the director, Richard Marquand, was a total creep to Carrie Fisher and made her cry during the filming of Return of the Jedi. What a bastard.

[@beagleboygaming1701]

When I originally heard eveyrbreath you take in this movie jaw dropped at how accidentally accurate the song is to their movie

[@wopjohn]

She used to date Indiana Jones and starman

[@masonallen3961]

3:27 "Maybe the next one should have Elsa". After Snob said that I immediately looked through Alison Doody's credits to see if she starred in a bad 80s melodrama. I couldn't find one. Besides from being in Indiana Jones and James Bond, she's mostly been in thrillers and some comedies. This might be hard.

[@miyuruify]

Quarantined and binge watching The Cinema Snob!

[@lizzychrome7630]

Indy, THIS is what you did to Marion!

[@SamtheBravesFan]

No one said he was a lover and he did say he was sorry. Multiple times. And I guess she would have eventually sold him the headpiece of the Staff of Ra if Toht hadn't shown up.

[@graemesmith6721]

The music at 14:48 really sounds like one of John Barry's Bond flick scores.

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

Wake me up when... I'm a Size 30. What? What did you think I was gonna say?

[@firefly4f4]

I'm halfway through this review and I already feel like a need a shower. Ewww.

[@shawnconway6009]

See Brad, this is why people always pick these movies. Because everyone knows that they're the best ones one the list.

[@DTyrannosaurus]

He’s still the most beautiful man ever, just like when I saw this movie the first time, when it came out. O____O

[@zachcaudell3081]

...Where does he keep finding these?

[@SemperErato]

Protag almost got the good ending--you're supposed to ignore that final "respond to beleaguered yelling" QuickTime input and get safely aboard your flight home.

[@shwahgamer]

That is true, but you have to watch out for the possible inclusion of, "You told me where you lived so I tracked you down after you ignored me!" (I'm fairly certain that would have happened if she ignored him there unfortunately.)

[@larrycopes506]

what if the lady he was dropping off at the beginning wasn't his wife but another woman who missed her flight and had to stay until September?

[@oz_jones]

Xavier, you have a problem!

[@DragonSkyNija]

4:00 Flight 116 I said Runway 8 not interstate 80 (Speed Zone 1989)

[@rawrvintageisclassic]

13:00 Did you just throw in a Ms. 45 reference here? Nice.

[@augustwest5356]

Another Cinema Snob classic I will most likely watch a dozen times over the next year and not just because drugs have destroyed my memory. I think this is my new second favorite episode. Nothing beats Ghost Fever. Your commentary is comedy gold and the movie, comedy cancer. I often wonder when movies like this are made if anyone really looks back on them with pride. The writing is fucking awful. I'm ashamed enough for who ever thought this was even a remotely good idea. This is truly a romantic train wreck.

[@TheBadGuy235]

.....damn it. I really wanted Phantasm or Scream. Ah well it'll still be quality I'm sure.

[@WorthlessWinner]

Negging, the movie

[@codyacker4040]

I love that the majority of peoples’ reactions to Until September winning the poll were: “What the hell? How did this movie win?”

[@elfpvke]

3:32 I would totally watch a review of either of the other movies Alison Doody was in.

[@nooctip]

This movie has offended Kali. But it doesn't get a Shankara stone. It gets a crystal skull.

[@ouijacorn]

Who doesn't want to be wooed by a man who looks like Udo Kier and sounds like Tommy Wiseau?

[@anarchist135]

I might need to give to his patreon so i can start voting for these melodramas

[@MadMagicianKaros]

*8:14** - **8:25** is the best part!!!*

[@slashingkatie7872]

We need aPatreon poll that’s all bad romance movies and a slasher movie.

[@declanhandley-byrne4335]

19:17 Talk about going in-Seine

[@aaronsaunders6974]

@ about 1 min, I couldn't help myself (laughing) , and i dont even remember what set me off 😁🤭

[@amandabraun4588]

I swear you should cover Sweet November. I watched that in 9th grade with a couple of sappy teenagers, a movie I wouldn't be caught dead watching on my own, and it was ehhhhh....harmless, but so cheesy, it gave me cavities. I'd love it if you reviewed it. Sure, it's not from the 70s or 80s, but it is almost 20 years old, so it's definitely dated. I still remember the hot dog scene. The one in which Keanu was trying to pitch this EXTREME hot dog advertisement and got fired over it? I think he got fired. Anyway, I request the movie only about a year after you already reviewed this creepfest. (not nearly as terrifying as 365 Days though) HA. It's almost 365 days since you reviewed Until September. Imagine that. Please review Sweet November, if only for the nostalgia. Haha.

[@03bgood]

This won over Scream and Saw!? Should've waited "until September" to review this one! Although, too be fair; everyone has heard of Scream and Saw.

[@robertromero9488]

Still more romantic than Twilight

[@andrewguerra9343]

Chef Love or Old Fashioned

[@jamiekamihachi3135]

I’d like to think Green Day were working on their American Idiot album and needed something to end it on when they saw this.