Carl Jung: The REAL REASON for Nietzsche's Madness

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Carl Jung contributed to psychoanalysis in an important way, but that contribution to the field is inseparable from his engagement with Nietzsche. Jung derived a wealth of insights from Nietzsche’s work, and his psychological state that deteriorated into madness. Jung’s central hypothesis is that Nietzsche was possessed by an archetype. Such archetypal inflation was the result of a deep imbalance within Nietzsche’s psyche, springing from his rejection of the spiritual.
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[@mouradmhm3244]

One significant factor contributing to Nietzsche's madness is the profound conflict between his ideals and his personal limitations. He championed a philosophy of unapologetic acceptance of life, yet he was an exceptionally sensitive individual. This sensitivity is evident in his writing at times. In "Ecce Homo," he extols the concept of *amor fati*-the love of fate-but in the same work, he also states that the only excuse for God is that He doesn’t exist, revealing a deep-seated resentment towards the world. This internal contradiction between his philosophical aspirations and personal disposition likely exacerbated his mental struggles.

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[@tr7b410]

Me thinks his over thinking about his own egocentric nature drove him to madness. Have you noticed how agitated people with mental illness appear.?The egos destructive nature is on display. This is how the eastern philosophies counters the egos narcisstic awe of itself & is destroyed in deep meditation, which ironically enough stimulates the kundalini shakti=the jumping off place towards a higher introspection than the EGOS MACHINATIONS. Only in SAMADHI can the ego be destroyed.But what is SAMADHI.? Google search Ramana Maharshi-Be as you are Chapter 12 Experience and Samadhi...Sahaja samadhi-the unified field of awareness or Born Again when the ego is destroyed along with its subconscious mind-unconscious mind revealing the superconscious mind 24/7.Godspeed

[@redguy2489]

I think he would be an absolute lover boy alpha if he was born exactly now. Now that girls have been flooding in male interests like video games, anime, and smoking weed, being a bit wild. Nietche would have an avenue somewhere in the Internet. Plus his intelligence towards growing for the greater good and evaluating power. He came from a somewhat stable Germany but it was still tougher back then. He really only had literature and nature for his sensitivity. Plus the biggest load of dad and mom issues. He dedicated his life for others like him in the future to see the light instead of spending that time to overcome himself before going to madness, feeling content and not feeling the urgency to create beyond good and evil and thus spoke. That's why he's synonymous with the anti Christ. Jesus was a sensitive man who sacrificed himself to show everyone that he will die by the values he created himself. Nietche exed himself out before Germany became completely mad in WW2 when bloodthirsty and soullessness was in the air. His writing is a fight against the mechanicalness with a strong sensitive but unwilling spirit in his books. Perhaps he was willing himself to be sensitive for a cause

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[@tr7b410]

@redguy2489 His intellectual hubris gifted him 1 thing:A critical thinking mind,like Ram Dass aka Prof Richard Albert's use of LSD gifted him you are not your thinking mind.Enter his Guru in Sahaja Samadhi Neem Karoli Baba. To understand Samadhi Google search Ramana Maharshi-Be as you are Chapter 12 Experience and Samadhi...Sahaja samadhi-the unified field of awareness or Born Again when the ego is destroyed along with its subconscious mind-unconscious mind revealing the superconscious mind 24/7.

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[@_7.8.6]

Jung looks at Nietzsche how Nietzsche looks at Socrates

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[@Bldernnr]

Nietzsche was anti Socratic

[@joleaneshmoleane8358]

56:44 I love measuring someone’s soul based on how much truth they can tolerate. After the last few years I appreciate and value so much more than before, someone’s ability to handle difficult truths about our reality. I never realized how few people can actually handle the truth whole truth. I figured it was maybe 40-50% of people that could be described that way. But after the pandemic and all of the other revelations, revelations about our governments and institutions, the way the world works, over the last decade I realize it’s more like 5-10% of the population that can actually stand the truth.

[@garyhambleton2374]

In light of the current political climate, the mind boggles at what you would characterize or define as 'the truth.' It seems evermore to mean whatever you choose it to be, regardless of how far it strays from someone/everyone else's truth. Good luck with trying to convince others of your interpretation of it. That is the basis of the individualistic, relativistic notion of 'truth.'

[@ChristineMeyer-hs9rg]

I agree with you. There is truth and there is reality. Neo Marxism strives to convince us otherwise. The idea is to create cognitive dissonance, confusion and demoralisation. In particular over identity. What people find most difficult is the depth and breadth of evil being perpetrated upon us. 100 years of psychological research into human behaviour is being employed to effect mind control and shape behaviour. This is mainly constant exposure and repetition of what they want you to accept. They use fear as motivation as people "herd" with the majority when threatened. They researched the medical field as being the most efficacious to induce this behaviour. They invested a lot of time in creating specialised "experts". The news readers held their positions over many decades to form a relationship with people. The manipulation of the statistics and the use of modelling also comes from Psychology. They discouraged critical thinking in education and stopped educating people and started training them instead. They projected larger numbers of compliance than actually existed so that people would cleave to the "majority". Nothing was done that was not meticulously planned. If you know and love our creator God then you can understand evil and protect yourself from it. Faith gives protection from fear. They know 15% of people cannot be hypnotised. That's why the censorship was so strong and unforgiving. They divide to conquer. God had to "die" to create the environment in society conducive to their plans. These plans are made hundreds of years in advance and carried through generationally. Technology has given them the means to potential absolute control. Evolution was introduced to undermine God. People want to be seen as "educated" and "intelligent". They get people to invest and implicate themselves and when they do it's so much harder to admit that you were fooled and partly culpable. They are occultists from the old Mystery Schools. They have been around for thousands of years but remained hidden. It helps if you have read the Bible but most people haven't. This is why they hate Christians. All of this is no surprise to us. They worship the adversary. They are a sex and death cult. Murderers and liars.

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[@ryanrohn4561]

There is a depth of mystery one need never stop exploring, when it comes to the territory these 2 men dove into, at their own risk : it's a topic I'll never grow tired of. Multiple readings of Jung's Memories Dreams Reflections and Nietzsche's Beyond Good and Evil, and Thus Spake Zarathustra. So much yet still to wander through. Excellent work with this presentation!

[@alejandrotality]

I usually find it difficult to find good commentary on intellectual titans like Jung and Nietzschie because people speak about them as though they are super heroes, but listening to you makes me feel like both Jung and Nietzschie as just people. Don't get me wrong, I still find both of them to be true sages, but now that I see them as more human figure, their knowledge feels more understandable now. Thank you for the podcast, it was genuinely illuminating

[@MsJavaWolf]

I definitely noticed this in myself when I think about the ancient Greek philosophers, someone like Plato is like a mythical figure to me. At least I noticed it, but it's still not easy to be unbiased about their views.

[@AjNotsri]

… I think both men were great thinkers. I don’t think anyone can stand with Nietzsche as far as depth psychology and continental philosophy except Kirkegaard and Dostoyevsky. I would wager that both Nietzsche and Jung were at least honest in their own development of perspectives in trying to understand how this place works with all of the various variables that go into what a man is and what he can become. I do believe both had their own daemons running in the background (like computer scripts…not ironic that this is what they are really called in Information Technology )…because atheism and materialism were already dying it just took awhile for the stench to reach the populace. The only truly intellectually honest atheist is a nihilist and if that nihilist can pause his script for a second and look at the sheer impossibility of the evolutionary theory, the Big Bang, irreducible complexity, the Goldie locks phenomenon, Fibonacci sequence, fractals, etc…then he will quickly become some type of agnostic and be swept up by the Likes Of William James, Gnostics, Jung, etc…If that newly agnostic can keep going and trudge through that oneness modality mess and really start humbling themselves they may actually start beginning to understand and close in on the fact that there is a creator singular that is…now the task becomes who is the creator? I know Nietzsche and Jung’s own daemons, archetypes, etc…kept them running around trying to find out and figure out why reality seems to be able to provide both evidence for and against any particular view on almost any topic. This has become even more clear in the age of information. Nietzsche’s descent into madness was his will to order which became an actual possession! Jung it seems was able to stay a bit more fluid but just as deceived! Both of these men were deceived.

[@alejandrotality]

@@AjNotsri I think that the biggest barrier that keeps the vast majority of people who are trying to understand The One Creator is contending with the existence of tragedy and evil. "If God is all good, why does evil exist?" or "If the universe is truly neutral and devoid of meaning, why do objectively bad things exist?" etc... I like Jung and Nietzsche a lot and regarded them as superheroes because they gave me mental tools to approach this barrier. Nietzsche by questioning morality, which helped me remove it from its status as an absolute thing, and Jung with his research on the Self helped me understand that God didn't make a mistake by creating evil/tragedy and that Jesus and Satan are one and the same because Jesus, being an image of the Self, must include its evil side in order to be whole and perfect, which he has in Satan. Even this understanding by itself might be too much for those trying to understand The One, if they haven't gone through the transformation that you described. I don't imagine that someone who hasn't lost their adoration for conventional images and icons, just to later rediscover that same adoration after falling in love with the orderly chaos of Existence, could ever come to terms with a Oneness that allows Evil / Tragedy to exist... because that would require them to also accept their inate and enacted human evil. Something akin to crashing headfirst into Nihilism at 300 Km/H.

[@davidkinney867]

I think there's enough documentation about Nietzsche's physical illness driving him into ?insanity? to say Jung and many others unfairly judge his insanity as a pure insanity unaffected by illness. In truth I believe Freud and Jung were far more indebted to Nietzsche than they wanted to admit. He was a brilliant thinker with concepts that opened their eyes. I prefer to think of Nietzsche as Walter Kaufman did as deserving to be known as a great thinker.

[@kevinbeck8836]

Only sane comment. Was getting nauseous with all the Jung dickriders. I’ll be frank, Jung is having a moment because Peterson cant resist name dropping him. History had mostly forgotten about him and after Peterson goes Jung will go with him

[@xmathmanx]

The seminars on Zarathustra mentioned here went on for May years and the book is about 1400 pages, so you can't reasonably doubt that Jung considered him very important

[@xmathmanx]

In these seminars Jung states explicitly that he thinks the effort of writing Zarathustra was what caused Nietzsches breakdown

[@lotharlamurtra7924]

@@xmathmanx this is what Jung said. Because the inflation of the archetype. Let’s think about it. Are more “archetypal inflation” in Jung’s writings?

[@xmathmanx]

@@lotharlamurtra7924 yes, of course, it was a main theme of Jungs

[@jrfii-yt]

Looking forward to your future content. I'm excited for the broader topics you mentioned at the end of this video.

[@allenandrews2380]

Man. I'm fascinated by what I call " compensatory display" and it relationship to how our immune system works on the biological level. So often we meet people who are compensating for an inner frustration or attempting to work something out on a deep personal level, but much like those biological systems, we can take it to far , and end up cannibalizing ourselves. I believe jung was definitley wise to notice this lack of integration in nietchze,and so many of us. Great presentation as always.

[@sethmortimer1161]

Lately it occurs to me that Neitzshe was one of the few philosophers who lived as he thought. His final years were famously spent in silence categorised by commentators as an mental illness of unknown aetiology. What if this was not pure "will" to explore the precipice and become anchorite. Oh and there it's now talked about in this post.

[@alykathryn]

“That, I thought, was his morbid misunderstanding: that he [Nietzsche] fearlessly and unsuspectingly let his No. 2 loose upon a world that knew and understood nothing about such things.” . . . “And he fell-tightrope-walker that he proclaimed himself to be--into depths far beyond himself. He did not know his way about in this world and was like a man possessed, one who could be handled only with the utmost caution.” (C. G. Jung, Memories, Dreams, Reflections) “When Zarathustra had thus spoken, one of the people called out: ‘We have now heard enough of the rope-dancer; it is time now for us to see him!’ And all the people laughed at Zarathustra. But the rope-dancer, who thought the words applied to him, began his performance.” “Zarathustra, however, looked at the people and wondered. Then he spake thus: Man is a rope stretched between the animal and the Superman-a rope over an abyss.” (Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra)

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[@entriun]

Hello hello thinkers. I would recommend to all of you the book "Nietzsche and Jung: The Whole Self in the Union of Opposites" by Lucy Huskinson. The book is derived from her doctoral thesis. What is important in this work is something similar to the content of this video - the similarities and differences in the thoughts of these two. Additionally, the book is an excellent review of all works by Nietzsche and all works by Jung through the prism of the "struggle" of opposites. The book also provides a good insight into the pre-Socratics, such as Heraclitus. There is a thread that connects these things and I think it leads very interestingly and intuitively to Bergson, Deleuze, and I will highlight Whitehead with his "philosophy (theology) of process". Finally, you should know: Support for this channel also from Serbia, I will try to spread the commendable work of this channel. Bravo!

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I'm very interested in Whitehead, so I appreciate your comment greatly.

[@AjNotsri]

… I think both men were great thinkers. I don’t think anyone can stand with Nietzsche as far as depth psychology and continental philosophy except Kirkegaard and Dostoyevsky. I would wager that both Nietzsche and Jung were at least honest in their own development of perspectives in trying to understand how this place works with all of the various variables that go into what a man is and what he can become. I do believe both had their own daemons running in the background (like computer scripts…not ironic that this is what they are really called in Information Technology )…because atheism and materialism were already dying it just took awhile for the stench to reach the populace. The only truly intellectually honest atheist is a nihilist and if that nihilist can pause his script for a second and look at the sheer impossibility of the evolutionary theory, the Big Bang, irreducible complexity, the Goldie locks phenomenon, Fibonacci sequence, fractals, etc…then he will quickly become some type of agnostic and be swept up by the Likes Of William James, Gnostics, Jung, etc…If that newly agnostic can keep going and trudge through that oneness modality mess and really start humbling themselves they may actually start beginning to understand and close in on the fact that there is a creator singular that is…now the task becomes who is the creator? I know Nietzsche and Jung’s own daemons, archetypes, etc…kept them running around trying to find out and figure out why reality seems to be able to provide both evidence for and against any particular view on almost any topic. This has become even more clear in the age of information. Nietzsche’s descent into madness was his will to order which became an actual possession! Jung it seems was able to stay a bit more fluid but just as deceived! Both of these men were deceived.

[@entriun]

@@AjNotsri Your thinking is interesting, especially in light of the fact that I have recently been encountering texts (specifically an audiobook) by Justin Popović, a Serbian theologian and priest who was educated at Oxford and who dealt with the philosophical and theological analysis of characters from Dostoevsky's novels. I was actually surprised at how Dostoevsky had already posed all the possible questions that confront humanity through the dialogues of atheist - theist, moralist - immoralist characters. Your statement that an atheist can only be a nihilist is something that was also a natural conclusion in Dostoevsky, which St. Justin Popović pointed out. On the other hand, there are scientific facts that you mentioned which are difficult to refute or interpret (or perhaps they don't need to be interpreted), and they remain.

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Thank you, as always, thoroughly engaging and informative.

[@AIainMConnachie]

Bravo. Masterful overview

[@jrfii-yt]

This is gold! Thank you, my friend.

[@kenswain3400]

At 38:38, you use the phrase "Terror Management Theory" in speaking of the notions of Freud. Since the 1980s this phrase was adopted to refer to the work of 3 experimental social psychologists who set out to test the theories of cultural anthropologist Ernest Becker. Upon hearing the phrase here, I couldn't help wondering if Freud actually used it, and also whether you have heard of the TMT studies I refer to; one of the psychologists, Sheldon Solomon, is a friend of mine. The Ernest Becker Foundation dissolved last year and many members would not discuss the work of Jung with me, they tending towards rigid secular materialism. Delighted you are using him in your interpretations here as I believe Jung's ideas will finally have to be considered in any comprehensive survey of the psychological nature of Humankind.

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This is my favorite lecture this far. Long time listener. And I find jung's perspective potent and fascinating

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I was listening to a completely unrelated video while decorating my new apartment and when it ended your video (quite thankfully) was next on autoplay. Having had a philosophical mind since my young teens I'm always interested in and in search of channels like yours. I'm tremendously grateful for having been newly introduced to your channel. With love and appreciation from a new subscriber who's excited to listen to more of your older and all of your new to come videos.

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Thank you very much. Very important and insightful analysis.

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Don’t think for a second that I didn’t notice your mentions of ‘Synchronicity” and the “Material World” within seconds of one another. Bravo, sir.

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[@ranikalakaar]

This was so well done. Thank you.

[@EugenethePhilostopher]

Some pretty solid observations you gave here.

[@damin1916]

Perfect timing, I'm about to take a walk to so I can listen to this at the same time, btw your last Jung video was excellent!

[@2009Artteacher]

Thanks for looking at this from all sides. I was fortunate to have Dr. Marion Woodamn as a high school English Teacher for five years. In my graduate year, she left teaching to attend the Jungian Institute in Switzerland. Later, she became an international icon in Jungian Psychology, an analyst, and the author of five books. I was raised a Christian, so I understood well the opposite views of Philosophy and Psychology. She would talk about them from time to time. Certainly, when entering university, I was way ahead of the game due to her teaching, which most had no clue about. I actually entered therapy, and the Dr said I was obsessed with the mind. Much due to it was the waters I was raised in. I always emphasized that one, when reading Nietzsche, should first read the great works he challenges or inverted as his personification of the antichrist that came before him. I want you to know that you are well presenting the philosophers who influenced Nietzsche. IT IS IMPORTANT! Many read Nietzsche as a comic book hero and hang on his every word rather than critically sorting it through to see the underlying works he changed from its religious and philosophical form into psychology. Many use the term inflated in everyday language, though in its proper context, as you refer to Jungs analytical view as a persona identification with an archetype. Nietzsche's persona identifies with the saviour complex (Christ) and wisdom ( Sophocles), wanting to cause a paradigm shift by knocking the pillars down rather than as a bridge. He, in fact, horrified the reader through his violent obsession. Jung has the psychologist tempter to absorb and listen before analyzing what he is trying to say. Your wording as a skit of the story of Abraham is biased toward Nietzsche; you have God telling the man to kill his child. Though he left out the angel's voice ( as in the Bible), it became his enlightened consciousness, raising him from the unconscious to consciousness. In psychological terms, ego awareness is where he chooses not to, as in Jung's psychology. Nietzsche would have no part of consciousness. Thanks again.

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Love this

[@adamc436]

This is your best video to date. Going to watch this again.

[@seamusheaney123]

thanks and appreciation for this intelligent post.

[@hw-rg7gn]

Fascinating episode that addressed some of the concerns I've puzzled over re Nietzsche's philosophy, albeit raising new questions.

[@RichardBrent90111]

Tremendous episode!!! Truly spectacular!!!! Do you do group or private philosophy teachings?

[@SamanthaShelley]

Great video!

[@gaskoart-tm5bv]

Amazing content, thank you

[@gus8310]

Thank you very much for delving into, I do not have the time nor the will to sit down and read these books but am very interested in them. I find it hard to understand them sometimes. You have helped my understanding of philosophy 10 fold, thank you again.

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Hear hear

[@andyroobrick-a-brack9355]

Yeah, as someone with ADHD, I get too distracted to sit down in a quiet room and read a book. I can't stay still, I hate doing things in a linear fashion, I have to be exploring, creating and thinking my own thoughts, and these podcasts help me to process this information in a characteristically less strict, less linear fashion.

[@FarlessBlue]

I clicked the video because of the funny thumbnail. Made me chuckle, well done!

[@uberboyo]

This was excellent!

[@balsarmy]

May be your best video. It is calming❤

[@jokodrums]

Thank you, that was awesome.

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Ah I needed this And in Walpurgis Night as well, great content.

[@axio8]

Excellent commentary 👏👏👏

[@ronaldoferreira594]

Excelent! Thank you!

[@lavbusarac2547]

My father once told me that madness, depression and despair justify itself. Describing it makes you emphatize with it, thus descend into it. The real answer to despair is emptiness that lies beneath

[@MichaelDamianPHD]

Emptiness of what sort

[@sunflare8798]

"Mystical explanations are considered deep. The truth is that they are not even superficial" - Nietzsche foresaw Jung and those like him by a long shot

[@lotharlamurtra7924]

I agree.

[@Laotzu.Goldbug]

Jung is right about Nietzsche. Nietzsche is right about Jung. Their criticisms are not mutually exclusive.

[@drackaryspt1572]

​@@Laotzu.Goldbugexactly both understand and disagree with eachother whilst being right and wrong in different bits of their holistic views on the world, in my opinion. I think the right way to analyse them is to understand what they get right from them and why they were also wrong in other ways.

[@HiperStyle]

We must not forget that Nietzsche was influenced by Darwin and the materialists of the 19th century.

[@lotharlamurtra7924]

@@HiperStyle Indeed. Conversely I think there is no darwinism in Jung’s mind. Nevertheless Evolutionary Psychology in one side and Collective Inconscious and Archetypes in the other, have much in common. Jungians and Evolutionary Psychologist should think and work together!

[@chillraffeoho7715]

Awesome video; loved it ❤ I

[@WyrdAl]

Would be so on board with as much Jung related work as you want to put out.

[@user-xc2zk6vf4i]

Fabulous program.I am so deep into this program. The day after Orthodox Easter Pascha. The Church is darkened at Midnight and a one holy flame ignites all the candles and the members walk by in procession circular-everyone must leave the Church and the Priest is the one last out. On returning, he bangs the wooden cross loudly 3x on the door and shouts Open the Door! The members follow him back to the transformed Church.

[@Petran892]

Thanks for uploading the video. I am heavy into Nietzsche and i am really curious into diving into Jungs critique of him.

[@Vic-on5ic]

Carl Jung has saved the psyche of humanity.

[@loone8535]

This thumbnail is pure gold i laughed so hard and had to watch, great video too ofc.❤

[@isk3755]

I believe this is one of your better videos

[@phantomggg]

I’ve only read Jung’s Man and His Symbols. I’ve listened to many talks like this about his life’s work and my inevitable deep dive into the rest of his work is essential and over due. Talks like this rekindle my excitement for knowledge I’ve yet to receive. My interest has been focused on Hegel for the last few months and I’ve been avoiding studying these two thinkers alongside each other, but after this episode I think I will.

[@darrellprice7014]

You have isolated just the portions of writing I wasn't sure I was looking for. Carl junior especially was so prolific that once you find a particular point of interest it's hard to sort through the whole corpus of work four other mentions related to that same subject. Thanks because my own efforts of study are impaired by disability illness and such I often find myself caught up and study for hours but with work so vast hard to tell if I've gotten anywhere on any particular idea. Then mentally and physically exhausted with what feels like not much to show. Always rather I have been impatient and lacking in concentration so this obviously helps focus

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what an excellent lecture. how do i find more of your work.

[@untimelyreflections]

Subscribe to the channel! 🙏

[@fl7210]

This is fantastic analysis

[@SverigessnabbasteSE]

I take a deep bow. This lecture was true profound youtube gold. Stay away from the trappings, in ALL aspects of life… ☯️😮‍💨

[@ApolloOverDionysus]

This was just wonderful.

[@rb5519]

Haven't listened yet, but a "like" just for the thumbnail! 😂

[@christopherthomas5395]

Appreciation.

[@joshuaekanem8643]

Excellent discourse

[@engiidville]

Thank you for this 🙏🏻🙏🏻😉✌🏻⚡⚡

[@maileswales9174]

Top tier comparison! We could need more about Jung

[@dustysoodak]

Really nice selection of commentary on Nietzche’s writings.

[@user-sg5ce8tv7e]

Really great dialogue on these thoughts. Nietzsche was a key to my juvenile insight, and absolutely influenced my philosophy. As I've aged, though, I've gravitated to Jung's thought. I think Jung's effort is also universally valuable, where Nietzsche's is niche. Both undoubtedly have their place. All that said... I wonder what Nietzsche's output would have been had he married the woman of his fancy.

[@Brainteaser5639]

I like the way you take me with you to your new found compartments of the boat , where one realises that life is but a drean and all one to do is to keep rowing. These men, you included may be the wood work that makes the strong boat that takes anyone that finds themselves on board.

[@JsusCrisis]

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[@goodtothinkwith]

Very useful… good stuff

[@ArtDuomo]

Thanks!

[@theisuinganamphai]

Thank you so much for this video. Coming back to Jung after such a long time. This has been with me for the past week now. Will you by any chance do anything related to Wittgenstein? Interested to know. :D

[@chaz4240]

Jung owns. Great episode.

[@nebula_Mage]

Nietzsche was impressive for the exact reason that he created a work that transcended the limitations of the philosopher, unlike other philosophers who limited themselves to the barriers of their own reason, Nietzsche perceived the void of the "death of god" and really went to the end and transcended himself , his life apparently going on a different path from his philosophy itself shows that even though he suffered from Cadasil due to his father's genetics, with intense intellectual activity he prolonged his life span and managed to overcome his living conditions within the scope of his work, thanks for the Deleuze's quote btw.

[@Dunge0n]

"Stuck in bed... Deep Crisis.... I despise Life." -Nietzche's diary

[@nebula_Mage]

@@Dunge0n Yep, This kind of thing his life is full of and he managed to channel the opposite in his philosophical work, different from Schopenhauer, that some would even say had a better life

[@Dunge0n]

@@nebula_Mage It's really just simple stubbornness, in my opinion. A bit more verbose and erudite than people are used to, but still. I often think Nietzche would have rather simply "lost his mind" through intense exercise than words, if his health wasn't so cursed. Instead he had to 'convince' himself to go on, like so many do, with self-penned gospels of 'hope': denying death.

[@Dunge0n]

@@nebula_Mage Honestly I don't find much admirable about life or how he, or anyone, decides to 'tame' it. Nobody ever succeeded. I've never liked negotiating with the dragon that's gonna eat me in the end. There really isn't an end to the anti-human horror I'd authorize, if it somehow made me immortal.

[@nebula_Mage]

@@Dunge0n agree 100%, I'm not really talking about him, about his life, how he lived, I'm not admiring a person but rather how exactly his work ends up being impersonal and much bigger than him, as if he had really surrendered to a random impersonal unconscious aspect, it has elements who are similar to him but there are so many things so far from who he was that it really seems like something of collective unconsciousness, or just some reverberating atavism even

[@warp1176]

Your podcast has been very informative and helpful. Thank you for your colossal effort.

[@laurieprice535]

One thing overlooked in Neitzsche's writings is his excellent sense of humour.Many times after he rounded off an aphorism with a witty expression I would vurst out laughing.like many men of an intellectual nature I imagine Neitzsche to have been a man of a lusty temperament and a powerful libido and he may well have found a release in brothels .

[@Justjoey17]

“Well it’s not merely…” YES! YES IT IS MERELY!

[@MsJavaWolf]

Do you plan on making a video about Hume or Wittgenstein at some point?

[@beam3819]

I read that after Freud visited Jung at his home Freud got so scared he never went back. He said the house was demonic.

[@untimelyreflections]

Wow! Do you know a source for this? Would love to read more

[@Jules-Was-an-AnCap]

41:55 Your summarized opinions at this timestamp, are spot on imo, well done. Jung was probably in some sense, too much of a speculative mystic, and Nietzsche, probably too much of a disagreeable cynic. Nevertheless, there have hardly been two, more brilliant individuals in the past few centuries, and any thoughtfully derived 'synthesis' of their work is guaranteed to be fruitful.

[@egoncorneliscallery9535]

No need for synthesis. It is diversity. They dont need to reconsile..

[@GhostCrow666]

He wasn't mad.

[@ajonye]

your voice is so relaxing

[@MrClaike7]

lmao the thumbnail is hilarious!

[@hakonlhre736]

This is so good! This is an example of the information revolution's profound side. Can I ask you to please never start using AI for narration? AI has its place, but please inform us if you do choose to use it. Its getting harder and harder to discern. But it matters. On some level it affects us, even when we cant consciously catch it. We need human voices talking to us now. Thank you and thanks to everyone else that keeps engaging and expanding my mind. In stead of numbing it with bite sized and harmful dopamine hits. Big fan

[@davidscarafone5995]

God is dad lmao

[@HantonSacu]

Dad!

[@necrosis9222]

More like god is dog lmao

[@NO-LIVAS]

Beyond cute and funny

[@user-wk5uf6sp5p]

I can say i do resonate with that term. Minimalist was someone else's twist on my madness 😊

[@ganjaericco]

7:28 People know Marx said, "Religion is the opiate of the people," but not that he says two paragraphs later, "The criticism of religion disillusions man, so that he will think, act, and fashion his reality like a man who has discarded his illusions and regained his senses, so that he will move around himself as his own true Sun. Religion is only the illusory Sun which revolves around man as long as he does not revolve around himself." - Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right Marx wanted man's ego to be 'lord of the universe' as stated here. Marx was also obsessed with Mephistopheles in Faust, who you mentioned was a trickster figure in the archetype video; Marx's favourite quote of Mephistopheles being, "Everything that exists deserves to perish." I'm not religious, but it's just fascinating to see this.

[@fbwthe6]

I want to listen to you and james Lindsay talk about esotericism and theosophy and alchemy and Gnosticism

[@brianlee360]

All that falls, rises; all that is lost finds its way back; all that is forgotten is remembered again.

[@Juliankostandini1975]

Yes I am in the room.

[@ggrthemostgodless8713]

42:04 ""...You can poke all sorts of logical holes in it, and accuse Jung of STATING things with certainty that are just speculation..."" Damn right I can; THAT is My view of him on all things.... I never liked Jung, his muddled mind and all the rest, passing as depth or underground thinking, his so called profundity is vomit, of all sorts of good nutritious foods that he could not stomach, like Nietzsche's clarity and truths. Jung's archetypes etc which seem to be infinitely divisible is just crank, an almost irresistible drug for the soft sciences and thus "therapists" love it, not so with Nietzsche. For Jung to say Nietzsche was NOT an atheist and thus suffered from it, and somehow led to his mental condition later, that is just pure.... I lack the words for what this is!! So he was an atheists that KNEW his god was dead?? Is a contradiction in terms!! Pure low level therapist, which next always proceed to explain, What I really mean by that is... so why not say THAT to begin with, and not the avalanche of bullsh!t your books are filled with. This is not against YOUUUUU the creator of this video, I know you are commenting and analysing what you got... just in case there is no confusion. This is my view of Jung not you.

[@kevinbeck8836]

Glad to see I’m not the only one nauseated by Jung

[@sunflare8798]

"Mystical explanations are considered deep. The truth is that they are not even superficial" - Nietzsche foresaw Jung and those like him by a long shot

[@ggrthemostgodless8713]

@@kevinbeck8836 Jung is like a scammer of dreams or word salads... I like this video's analysis of it, but to say is fair play with Nietzsche bc N. also made statements of fact is misleading I think, this a different in KIND and also DEGREE of it. But Jung's bs is what allows people like Jordan Peterson to go on for hours on iffy and vague bs that his mostly young audience cannot challenge. Good luck, glad you too can cal him out on it.

[@nicolaswhitehouse3894]

I agree with what you said. They are several things in Nietzsche philosophy that is a lot more convincing that Jung. Nietzsche isn’t a mystic by any means if we really read and analyze his books and connect them to scientific facts. There is also the fact that : -Nietzsche superior knowledge on history. -Nietzsche superior knowledge of words (philology) -Nietzsche proves with scientifical proof how an evaluation has occurred. -Perfect knowledge of Greek and Latin. Can understand French.

[@nicolaswhitehouse3894]

@@ggrthemostgodless8713There is also couple of grotesque errors in my opinion from Jung such as : Jesus is the archetype of individuation. How so ? Someone who wants to individuate wants to fight himself, masters his passion. These activities doesn’t exist within Jesus. His bodies already knows that he is in kingdom of heaven. He lives his life just as he will live in paradise. He doesn’t seek redemption nor does he have the goal. He lives in a perpetual bliss. How can one say Jesus is the archetype of individuation or hero buggles me.

[@m3tamonk3y4]

Keep going.

[@kayakMike1000]

Jung said... He doesn't believe in God, He knows... Extremely compelling.

[@eastbrecht]

At a certain point one has to discover that true self knowledge does not come from the mind.

[@spikestoyou]

… The nous?

[@lotharlamurtra7924]

Does it come from the Yuan Shen, from the Olympis, from the beginning of the Universe?

[@eastbrecht]

It comes from the spinal cord. The process is Kundalini practices.

[@spikestoyou]

Lol oh nvm demonic crap

[@eastbrecht]

Yes, the mind can not overcome the ego.

[@Hoganoutdoors]

Outstanding

[@kalervolatoniittu2011]

I allmoust laughed mi arse off 😄..that frontpage

[@followyourbliss5719]

Yeah, that's a great thumbnail👍 the reason I clicked. Nietzsche was a great intellectual, but geniuses are highly dopaminergic and it's a thin line between genius and madness. Schizophrenia is a dopamine disfunction, too much dopamine. Perhaps some eastern ideas might have helped him