Upcoming Tudor Dramas for 2023(ish) in a Nutshell

[@The_Laughing_Cavalier]

Update: There are rumours circling around that 'Firebrand' may be shown at the Cannes Film Festival (16th to 27th May) so I will keep an eye on that.

[@1IbramGaunt]

Any more news on "Napoleon" by the way?

[@The_Laughing_Cavalier]

@@1IbramGaunt Other than a rumour it might be at Cannes, nothing new

[@waltonsmith7210]

Id like to see a series based on Empress Matilda and the Anarchy period. There are so many underexplored fascinating periods of British history that they totally ignore in favor of doing the same thing over and over.

[@SanguivorousRevenant]

YES! The Anarchy is one of my favourite periods of English history and it gets overlooked, which is criminal. I know the Brother Cadfael series (Excellent book series and one of the first TV shows to show medieval folks as complex and varied, not a walking bunch of stereotypes) took place in that setting, but I'd like something fully immersed in the actual historic period, not just fiction.

[@FunFilmFare]

"Blood, Sex, and Royalty" reminds me of the Netflix "Cleopatra" documentary

[@AliceOfSherwood]

Jane Rochford is the Bruce Ismay of Tudor dramas. Every time they show up, they are very often misrepresented.

[@eamonndeane587]

Even in some of the Good Ones....

[@swa7169]

They cancelled Becoming Elizabeth right before The Last of Us turned Bella Ramsey into a big star. A season 2 with her character front and center would have had a lot of potential upside.

[@sian2337]

I really enjoyed becoming Elizabeth. I thought Mary was really well cast. They’ve started showing the series on Channel 4 (I think), so I have my fingered crossed that they make another series.

[@winstonwordsmith1161]

Hey! Just discovered your channel. American southerner & academic here who's been obsessed w/ Tudor hx from childhood in the early 70s onward & who's familiar w/ academic work as well as changing cultural depictions and references. Having said that, IMO the "The Boleyns: A Scandalous Family," which you mention, is unusually strong. I've seen the 20-odd women portraying Anne Boleyn in major films, tv series, & docs, and the actress playing Anne Boleyn in this series looked and behaved in a way more consistent w/ primary sources than any other I've seen to date. (The late, very talented Dorothy Tutin in 1970 had her character down pretty well, but didn't bring the sophistication and skilled dancing demeanor.) I don't think any depiction to date has captured her immense intellectual and theological curiosity--probably because few modern writers bother to comprehend that religious devotion at the time was very compatible with sexual attractiveness and not the stereotypical strait-laced, zealous Christian we imagine today. So, what we're left with so far is an expectation that script writers bother to research her most basic qualities: 1) charm, wit & laughter--notoriously missing in Wolf Hall, 2) "dark" looks, relative to the time, with specifically stunning dark _brown_ eyes, 3) a furious, quick temper probably worsened by thyroid, bipolar, and/or hormonal issues that was difficult for her to contain, 4) deliberate sexual chastity, governed by learning in France ways to flirt w/o giving in to the pressure of men and the understanding of how primary this was for a women in maintaining any status or power. The "Boleyns" doc is really strong in this regard, probably because they also focus on the formative roles of her family members in shaping her character and in helping modern viewers understand the world in which she was operating. The analysis of the court & struggles for power was superb, and the maze metaphor was beautifully conceived and shot. Having read hundreds of works about the period, I think the way they toggled the male vs female circles of power--at the level of visual and argument--when describing Anne's unprecedented role at the court was an exceptionally fresh, profound insight in a field that's been raked over so much you don't expect to find any good soil at all. So, perhaps you've already reviewed it, but the documentary is outstanding. I'm not sure I'd agree w/ their argument that King Francis had that much to do w/ their going ahead w/ the marriage, and the dancing sequences are anachronistically modern--but that's forgivable if the point was to demonstrate her prowess and appeal. I just hope someone would cast this actress in a fictional period film, because she captures Anne's character and appearance more than any others I've seen. Thx again for your channel!

[@MarilynRB]

Winston, well written and I agree with all you said. I am also an American southerner obsessed with this period, just like yourself. I very much enjoyed the Boleyn series as well. Nice to see like-minded people here, and I adore this channel.

[@renshiwu305]

_The Boleyns: A Scandalous Family_ has a French actress playing Anne Boleyn. Pretty accurate, given Anne's facility with French. Also, sloe-eyed, darkly complected, small-breasted - that was Anne.

[@MarilynRB]

@@renshiwu305 I did not know that! But, it makes bloody good sense considering all said she seemed more like a French born lady than English.

[@floraposteschild4184]

Your videos make me happy -- there are people who care about not only the quality, but also the accuracy of historical dramas!

[@joshthomas-moore2656]

First good to have you back Cavalier, you have been missed (In the darkest hour of historic dramas, when the history warriors were broken an the hope of all historians had faded, our savior returned to us.) See with the "Blood Sex and Royalty" docu-drama (God i hate the phrase), i honestly feel (Mostly for my tiny threat of a hope i have in humanity), that they bring in the historians ask them questions but then heavily edit or cut what they say down to like two seconds, because producers feel people are to dumb to grasp stuff (Which rather negates the point in have the historians there to begin with but never mind). And your best actors are from Coronation Street and Emmerdale and you use rap music seriously, the bar keeps getting lower and lower these days. Becoming Elizabeth wasn't unsalvagable, this series did have a good Lady Grey and Prince Edward which was a relief, but sadly the rest of the seires wasn't great and dear god if i see a Seymor clip again i'll go mad, hopefully Bella Ramsey can be convinced to do a Lady Grey spin off or another production might make one.

[@Jamestopboy]

According to Wikipedia, her name is pronounced: /ˈrɒmələ ˈɡæri/. Gaeri: G air ey. And, please, please, please, cover the Serpent Queen; it's actually very good. As for Wolf Hall - I'd like them to do it in Medias Res; so it starts with Cromwell in his prison cell and it flashbacks back to each of the events as Cromwell narrates his final letter to Henry over the opening scene of each episode.

[@alaska4939]

I took a month long break from watching KZbin and I'm so happy to see you released another video. Can't wait for those next Tudor Rants!

[@BaltimoreKid1996]

I just want a real detailed show of queen Mary tudor I aka bloody mary.

[@Elli-Mac]

Good updates, thanks Cavalier! 🙂 Looking forward to Wolf Hall series 2!!

[@pollyparrot8759]

Oh the Tudor zipper with the pearl drop zip pull .... that was a highlight ! I haven't seen a better fail since I was a child watching Black Arrow and seeing his wristwatch visible as he took his bowshot .... what a douzy .... thank you so much for showing this 🤣

[@rooo358]

You are the voice in my head come to life when I watch these shows

[@Matthias333]

I thought Mary I was the best part of Becoming Elizabeth, so while in general I didn't like the show, I too am a bit disappointed we aren't going to see her reign. Oh well. Guess we're still waiting on that great Mary series sometime in the future.

[@winstonwordsmith1161]

I agree. I appreciated how Garai made Mary a sympathetic character. Beyond that, the series was so awful I kept almost turning it off except for wanting to see any genuine historic interiors and the overall period production set.

[@MarilynRB]

I agree. Mary was my favorite in the series; however, I loved the spicy Catherine Parr, but mostly due to liking the actress, who also played Lady Rochford in Wolfe Hall, I believe? I think the character of Mary I in general has been greatly unappreciated, giving all the focus on Henry VII and Elizabeth I. Henry VII and Mary I are also quite interesting historical figures, too.

[@renshiwu305]

@@MarilynRB Jessica Raine played Catherine Parr in _Becoming Elizabeth_ and Jane Boleyn in _Wolf Hall,_ aye. I thought they made Catherine Parr look bad: she's $@#&ing Thomas Seymour within the first five minutes of the first episode. They also make her look particularly ambitious - wanting to bring Elizabeth and Jane Grey into her household to use as pawns in the game of power.

[@eamonndeane587]

​@renshiwu305 It feels like the Showrunners tried to combine Catherine Parr and Anne Stanhope (who was by all accounts a sharp tongued, ambitious noblewoman married into the Seymour family) into one Character and not doing a very good job of that.

[@bc7138]

Considering they're now doing a second series of Wolf Hall I still need to get round to watching the first one!

[@DrDaveShows]

Hooray! Another post from one of my favorite influencers!

[@annkelly0072]

Good Sir! It's wonderful to have you back! I say absolutely do the documentaries, it would be fantastic to hear your take. Any news on Napoleon? Are you planning to rant about Seven Kings Must Die when it is released? (Please say yes, please say yes).

[@The_Laughing_Cavalier]

As I said, I will either do a video on the making of or a video on the trailer of Napoleon at some point in the near future (the latter is dependent on when Ridley Scott releases a trailer for it). I haven't seen the Last Kingdom in years and I don't really cover the Anglo-Saxo era on the channel I am afraid.

[@christinecastro7212]

Glad to see a new video. I completely missed the Blood, Royalty & Videotapes or whatever on Netflix. But I barely watch Netflix anymore.

[@JOSH-lw2jv]

Congrats on getting over 6,800 subscribers. 👍👍

[@jasonjuneau3554]

As said on Mystery Science Theatre 3000, all actors have one motto: apply for every part you can.

[@sylamber0537]

would you be able to cover Elizabeth I (2005) with helen mirren? ive always loved it and id love to see your take on it!

[@JaneEasterbrook-bn3ux]

Firebrand is based on the novel The Queen's Gambit by Elizabeth Fremantle,which came out some years ago. Because a recent film had the same title the novel and film are now called Firebrand. I've not seen the film but the novel' s ok. Best novel on Katherine Parr is by Alison Weir , though the title escapes me Menopausal moment!

[@JaneEasterbrook-bn3ux]

The Mirror and the Light is a HUGE book, so hopefully that should cover the 6 episodes!!

[@sian2337]

I’m still gonna live in hope that they’ll make some more Becoming Elizabeth. I know what you said, but I have to have hope 😌 Happy about Wolf Hall though.

[@JaneEasterbrook-bn3ux]

Traditionally historians saw Jane Rochford as she's always shown in dramas. It's only recently that a few historians see her differently. I have no idea which is the best way to think of her . Maybe a bit of both interpretations ?

[@Nebulasecura]

New here! Love the Tudors period, and i wish there was more decently written and completed series of the Elizabethan age, the closest of which ive seen is the hbo Elizabeth 1 miniseries which had Helen playing her.

[@AmethystEyes]

When I heard the title I immediately thought this is not going to have historical accuracy. It sounds like when producers are pitching a show idea. Those are the only things that they’re focused on. “Blood, Sex, Royalty”. Lol

[@savagedarksider2147]

I discovered this Catherine the great drama series from the 1990s.

[@renshiwu305]

_Blood, Sex & Royalty_ is the _Bridgerton_-ization of Anne Boleyn. Money was the sole lure for what I thought were reasonably respectable historians' participation in the mini-drama. One of those historians, I'm happy to say, traded brickbats with me online. It was an historical travesty - the language was wrong, the costumes were wrong, the feminism (no doubt playing to the program's female audience) was wrong.

[@lili99941]

Don't worry. The mirror and the light is around 700 pages. They had to make a full season.

[@The_Laughing_Cavalier]

That might help, but we will see. I have had so many hopes broken these past few years drama wise I have become more distrustful than ever!

[@Mungoteazer11581]

Hello and welcome back! I wanted to mention My Lady Jane, but then you mentioned it... I am scared of it, too. I love Alicia Vikander and I hope the movie will be good! I have not watched Wolf Hall yet 🤔 Have you ever watched The Hollow Crown?

[@savagedarksider2147]

Sigh. Can we just get A series on Philip II of Spain.

[@peacockcrowe2718]

Same! Kinda like a continuation of Carlos, El Rey Emperador but continues with Philip

[@ariellann4555]

The sad fact is Bujold ruined any other Anne's for me, she will never be beaten. I'm glad of that frankly, I've seen the pinnacle of Anne and that's satisfying. So refreshing to see an Anne that isn't all, "Come hither, Henry." Who would want to get with a dude who had been with and most likely had kids with her sister? But once she realized there was no way out she dictated terms which is really empowering I think. Maybe the Spanish Princess still haunts me but the girlboss charging into battle to be badass still makes me sick. There isn't one way to be a strong woman, and I've thought about it more with Elizabeth of York. If you wanted to show her intelligence and also the strength in a mother have her be active in her children's education like she was. Show it from the angle that those who bring up an educate the heirs control the future. That could have made her badass in a way genuine to her character.

[@renshiwu305]

The only Anne Boleyns worth their salt are the ones who are ambitious and spiteful - Claire Foy in _Wolf Hall,_ Natalie Portman in _The Other Boleyn Girl,_ Natalie Dormer in _The Tudors,_ Dorothy Tutin in _The Sixth Wives of Henry VIII,_ etc. That's how Anne was. Anything less than such a portrayal is a fantasy. Genevieve Bujold's Anne (also Helena Bonham Carter's Anne in the miniseries _Henry VIII)_ is simply caught in Henry's web against her own will. That's not how it was. A woman who came up in the French court would've had ample training in the ways of courtly love, and a woman of no outstanding beauty wouldn't have caught Henry's eye any other way. Anne's great-grandfather married a baron's daughter; Anne's grandfather married an earl's daughter; Anne's father married a duke's daughter; Anne married the king. The Boleyns were social climbers and Anne was no different. Before Henry, Anne first involved herself with the son of the Earl of Northumberland - the North's premier peer. Anne's motto was "Groigne Qui Groigne" - (Let) Grumble Who Grumble, referring to those who opposed her elevation to the queenship. A modest woman wouldn't make such an immodest statement.

[@borleyboo5613]

Dear God! Yet another series about AB. I won’t be watching. It was the Tudors who got me into history over 40 years ago. But I’m in danger of rapidly losing interest. I’d love a good, historically accurate series about the Wars of the Roses myself. Not like that trash we were served up by Starz, ‘The White Queen’. I’m still recovering from that unholy mess.

[@9822703]

we need more war of the roses and older times. tudor is so overdone

[@annkelly0072]

I'd love a John of Gaunt series.

[@lilymarinovic1644]

Yes ... the Angevins (Henry II,.Eleanor of Aquitaine, Richard I and King John) would be awesome.

[@Leon-bc8hm]

Lets start with William I. He started all of this and his young live was way more eventful than any of those Tudors being a Bastard.

[@aruglaempire2518]

Dang! What happened to your dog? I LOVE that dog!

[@The_Laughing_Cavalier]

erm, I've used this fan art before in videos, did you not see it? This is only for unscripted videos.

[@aruglaempire2518]

@@The_Laughing_Cavalier No. I saw the fan art for the first time with this video but I have to say I love your dog!! I'm glad he okay. BEST TO YOU. LOVE YOUR VIDS!!!

[@cyrilmarasigan7108]

If any people want to cover a person related to the Tudor period that would be Henry VII's mother and grandmother, His wife, Henry VIII's sisters and his wives, Lady Jane Grey and the Grey sisters and Mary I not Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn and their child Elizabeth, we heard their stories MANY TIMES so why not lets give another Tudor forgotten power figure to shine in the spotlight of films

[@laurahubbard6906]

OMG! The costumes! I do low-budget community theater, and our wardrobes look better than this garbage.

[@vjo38]

I'll be watching Wolf Hall -end of.

[@ЕгорПещерский]

Ah, finally some Cavalier content to ease the daily grind.

[@texaskc]

"Hello there fellow kids."🤣😂

[@lisaweinmann9245]

Love you and Alice of Sherwood too!

[@FragileThings331]

Boleyns for the win was a loss for the viewer.

[@ChristosGoulios]

have you seen cleopatra >.>

[@ChristosGoulios]

as a greek you can understand my pain i hope...

[@The_Laughing_Cavalier]

My Mum saw the first episode and I caught a few scenes when I walked into the room. Acting was terrible from what I saw, and I walked in on the "my grandmother said Cleopatra was black" scene. Mum didn't watch anything beyond that and said it was a load of crap.

[@ChristosGoulios]

You know for who they should make a show? Agathocles of Egypt. Talk about a purge of the royal family.... he acended to as the main reigent to a puppet king after the death of Ptolemy the 4th and after that he killed everyone notable from the royal family including the mother of the new king due to a political allience that he made with the chief minister named Sosibius. This Sosibius then got never heard from again history wise (most likely he got killed by agathocles) and his son after a popular revolt who is also named Sosibius was the one that made sure to convince the ptolemy the 5th to codemn the regent to death. (note they also had the help of the army ) It is a nice and spicy tale that doesn't need much in terms of budget since most stuff can be done in like 10 rooms .

[@1IbramGaunt]

Right, until we get more Becoming Elizabeth, constant loop of "The Tudors" and groin-lobsters of choice it is, gotta have SOMETHING to fill the void and even that was better than this sh*t

[@savagedarksider2147]

How about they make an alternative history Tudor show.

[@AdamTurnbull-xd3nf]

there was a great book called Deathscent by robin jarvis that had that premise

[@savagedarksider2147]

@@AdamTurnbull-xd3nf Did you ever heard of the story(...) The Alteration-It is set in A world where Arthur Tudor lives.

[@AdamTurnbull-xd3nf]

no will have to look it up. is interesting because we never had a king Arthur in the uk

[@jasminep9455]

Leigh Jenkins did a series of Kindle books that were alternative histories of the six wives...like what would have happened if Catherine of Aragon and Henry's male babies survived etc They were interesting reads

[@miles_thomas]

Discovery of Witches, book 2/season 2 is kinda Tudor alt-hist

[@fnansjy456]

20:35 Ireland has the left the chat.....

[@The_Laughing_Cavalier]

Ireland is not part of Britain...

[@fnansjy456]

@@The_Laughing_Cavalier I knew ,sorry you misunderstood You said England didn't start colonising till 1580 when England have been colonising ireland since the 12th century and especially in the 16th/17th century plantation and the Mischeif of the "English adventurers "

[@The_Laughing_Cavalier]

@@fnansjy456 The Plantations didn't start till the mid/late 16th Century after Henry VIII (Mary I tried, but they didn't really get going until well into Elizabeth's reign), England only exercised control over the Pale around Dublin up till that point so had not been colonising it till then.

[@fnansjy456]

@@The_Laughing_Cavalier fair point

[@eldorados_lost_searcher]

I haven't trusted Netflix docudramas since season one episode one of their Roman series.

[@jamesblair18]

That Netflix one. What is it? The trailer came on and absolutely horrified. This is just pornography in badish costumes!

[@TracyD2]

Ok I definitely won’t watch blood sex and royals I don’t need to get any more pissed off.

[@jasminep9455]

I didn't even finish the first episode of Blood Sex and Royalty....the excessive music was irritating amongst other things.

[@AdamTurnbull-xd3nf]

yes i think poor Ann Boleyn needs to be left alone now every one has maid a film or tv show about her let the poor women rest now. This show just looks like money for old rope does not need to be maid anything for money I assume.

[@KentuckyWildcat666]

It was so awful. Mind numbingly terrible, but I do think the serpent queen is hilarious..

[@lilymarinovic1644]

Gonna say, irreverent comedies that are actually fun and clever can work ... The Great (about Catherine The Great) is wonderful... warning, it does contain a heck of a lot or random and gratuitous sex scenes but given Catherine's reputation it kinda fits.

[@KentuckyWildcat666]

@@lilymarinovic1644 oh yes I love Catherine the great so so good..

[@AmethystEyes]

Does anyone remember the Romeo and Juliet that have them speaking just plain modern English, but still wearing period clothing? I couldn’t watch it, I just couldn’t. It was terrible.

[@thespion]

I don’t fully understand your beef with Blood, SX, and Royal beyond “bad acting” (which is somewhat subjective). Did you find it historically inaccurate? Do you dislike the POV of viewing history through a modern lens and only favor traditional docudramas? I’m not necessarily defending the series; but I also don’t agree with hating on entertainment based on history just because it’s more entertainment than history. Hopefully they lead some portion of their viewership to do a little research on the facts. Conversely, I also appreciate commentators (on KZbin and elsewhere) that point to differences between fact and fiction within these shows

[@thechurchoflogicsinandlove619]

I love the Tudor period but I to believe that Henry viii and Elizabeth's points are so overdone as to be nearly cliche now. After playing CK3 I'd like to see a series on William of Normandie with a focus on the Godwins and Norway as well. Also can we like just let Phillipa Gregory's fake history rest? No more adaptations of her godawful work. I would like to see Catherine of Aragon's story but not Phillipa's version, same with the wars of the roses. I hate seeing her on Tudor history documentaries and such. Woman's about as credible to Tudor history as Dan Brown is to religious symbology.

[@Leon-bc8hm]

This William had a really eventful life literally fighting for it at every turn.... But a real historical one this time.