Update on my Amish Nephew I met

#amishlife #amishcountry #amish #nephew ‪@lizzieenswellness‬

[@cheskydivision]

Drive a car is such a guy answer…wish him well.

[@lizzieenswellness]

Haha it’s true

[@Nicobobeepo]

It is, but it also seems like he maybe doesn't know how to verbalize what he's feeling, so he chose the simplistic answer.

[@cosput]

It's code for wanting some freedom to take control of one's life.

[@anniebe4992]

Ken wanted a car too 😁

[@kh7794]

Ummm, not!! I'm female and I grew up driving muscle cars and still love cars. Barrett Jackson Auction...all day everyday it's on. Worked on my own vehicles. It's not 1900 anymore, give your head a shake

[@vd4868]

❤ After following the Nephew story, it seems like your family intentionally didn't tell him about you BECAUSE they know that first year out is the hardest. They didn't want him to have a lifeline outside of the community, and thus increase the chance that he would run back to them. I hope he stays strong, and realizes that he has a whole family outside the Amish community.

[@sevenandthelittlestmew]

I’m so glad you told him the door is open if he decides to reach out to you again. It’s important to let people know that there’s no judgement regarding their direction in life, and your family certainly did that with your nephew. I hope that, no matter his choice, he remembers the kindness and love that your family provided him during his visit with you. Take care.

[@WookieWoman]

That indecisiveness is such a teenager thing. My 17, almost 18 year old son is the same way with a lot of important things.

[@prion42]

We're expected to make major life changing decisions at that age, it's pretty screwed up honestly.

[@WookieWoman]

@@prion42 You're also given the constitutional right to vote at 18. You can rent an apartment/house by yourself and get utilities in your name. It's kinda scary and intimidating if you don't have family to be supportive and helpful (my parents weren't, so I have learned what NOT to do).

[@ThojifadMain]

I just discovered your channel, and I'm fascinated. Watching your videos is like growing up with my mother all over again. She grew up with her 16 brothers and sisters in a small farming community in Texas without modern utilities, plumbing, etc. There were similar collectivist pressures on her to stay, get married and be a housewife with multiple children, but she left at 17 and never looked back. She's since had an amazing life with accomplishments that her life in that community could have never allowed. She remained close to her family, but they see her as somewhat alien because few of them left, and because her life is so radically different than theirs. Her experiences, wisdom and outlook on life have contributed greatly to my own life, and although I grew up with a lot of privileges, she has kept me grounded, and I'm grateful for it. I'm sure you will have a similar effect on your child(ren) as they grow older. Thank you for sharing your life with us.

[@lizzieenswellness]

This is amazing!! :)

[@ThojifadMain]

@@lizzieenswellness I'm pretty sure you've had a similar effect on a lot of people. All of your videos affect at least a few people in a special way. It's not just entertaining--it's life-changing or affirming, and we need more of that. 🙂

[@AdrienneZazulak]

So glad you got to meet him!! I wonder if visiting a church outside of the Amish community would help? Also maybe a little "world tour" watching documentaries etc and maybe trying different foods, experiencing some cultures. It seems as if he may not even be aware that so much diversity exists in the world, and so he never sought to experience it

[@personincognito3989]

I was thinking that too. He could visit a little Bible, believing church outside of the Amish. Then he would still have that spiritual connection.

[@crow_feather]

But it isn't right for anyone to influence his decision, one way or another. The most loving stance you can take is to let him decide for himself what he wants to do, not attempt to influence his decision, or in any way manipulate him into leaving if that's not what he wants to do. It's his life. As long as he's not harming anyone else, he has the right to live it in whatever way he so chooses.

[@feistsorcerer2251]

​@@crow_featherSomething to consider is that only applies when someone hasn't been influenced their entire life. In order to be able to make an informed decision someone needs to have all the information. If he's never been able to experience anything else, and has been told the rest of the world is evil all his life, exposing him to other experiences would be allowing him more choice.

[@AdrienneZazulak]

@@crow_feather I agree, assuming that they have all of the information they need to make a proper decision. If it truly comes down to missing family and such, as he said, I would support that 100%. But to let him go back unaware of things that could potentially influence his decision? that would be a disservice, in my opinion. Maybe she could offer the info to him, and if he declines access to that info, then so be it and he can go back. That way he can be sure she isn't trying to influence his decision

[@crow_feather]

@@feistsorcerer2251 So your answer is to attempt to manipulate him into thinking the way you wish h woul, by attempting to influence his decisions, as if he isn't fully capable of thinking for himself? Ironically, that makes you guilty of the very sort of manipulation you accuse the Amish of having themselves! Besides the fact that such manipulation is beyond demeaning because it assumes he isn't fully capable of thinking for himseld, it's based on the wrongful assumption that he has been taught that, when never, once anywhere, has that been implied, let alone said. It's a belief based upon wrongful and altogether harmful assumptions about the Amish that, when you truly come to know them, simply aren't true. His own Amish family is saying that he has the right to think for himself on these matters. It's you and everyone else advocating for him to be persuaded to stay that's ironically guilty of the very manipulative attempts at persuasion you're accusing his Amish family of having, even despite the fact that they have stated time and again that he has the right to think for himself on these matters. Such a hurtfully bigoted mindset towards the Amish is so incredibly wrong, as is taking such a demeaning attitude towards him, treating him as though he's been brainwashed because he chooses not to think in the ways that you feel he should be thinking. It's his life. He deserves the dignity of living it in whatever way he so chooses, for whatever reasons he so chooses, not to be demeaned by being treated as though he's some mindless child without the ability to think for himself. Live, and let live!

[@heatherstiara8033]

I can’t imagine how hard it would be to leave that. You’ve been conditioned to believe a specific way your entire life. Leaving has got to tear a person up inside. Not just leaving your life but your family and beliefs as well. It’s awesome that you were able to leave. ❤

[@vrisket771]

Thank you for the update! Best of luck to your nephew.

[@lizzieenswellness]

Much appreciated

[@sanjivjhangiani3243]

I imagine that living a life you know at least gives a certain level of familiarity; you can get a job, get married, etc. The outside world can be complex and challenging.

[@thiacari]

The outside world has no rules! Will you find a girlfriend? The community will not choose and pressure a girl to be with you, women can be with you but can also choose to leave. You might lose your job, your income, your home. There are more diseases and dangers, and any health issue costs a lot. Childcare and hospital costs, buying a house, educstion, everything requires money. This means you have to totally realign your life focusing on income and budgeting, not just on following community rules.

[@jimmyjenkins9240]

So happy that you got to visit your nephew. I think you handled the situation very well. I wish him the best of luck.

[@SterlingGirl1968]

At least he has some knowledge of what the outside world has to offer and can now make a more educated decision should it continue to intrigue him. All the best to him.

[@MsGranvillegirl]

When you have so many siblings is it almost impossible to keep track of their children as well? If you have 18 siblings who all have 10-20 children I can’t even imagine being able to keep a name straight. How do those relationships work?

[@apebass2215]

My mother had 10 siblings, I could remember all their names and the names of my cousins. The relationships worked no differently to the relationships on my father's side of the family. You could remember all the names in your school classes, no?

[@AnnabethOwl]

@@apebass2215no I can’t remember all the names in my classes😂

[@MsGranvillegirl]

@apebass2215 no, that why I asked. If all 18 of her siblings had 10 kids that would 180 nieces and nephews. Amish often have more so the number could be closer to 300! She mentioned her nephew was a baby when she left and she didn’t immediately recognize his name. I’m assuming she would be close to maybe certain sibling’s kids but it would be interesting to hear her perspective.

[@stephhhie17]

​@@MsGranvillegirlI think it would be like any situation where if you see or interact with anyone (extended family members or otherwise) on a regular or semi-regular basis you can probably remember them much more easily than if you don't. E.g. like someone above mentioned memorizing all of your classmates' names (and their phone numbers and addresses if you are old like me lol) or if you work a job like receptionist, building security/concierge, bartender, teacher, etc. you can often end up remembering names and other info of hundreds of faces without thinking about it.

[@crow_feather]

I am so glad you got to meet him, and spend some truly wonderful time bonding with him! It's awesome that he knows he'll always have you for love and support, no matter what! Regardless of whether he chooses to stay in the Amish community permanently, or does eventually leave, it's so awesome that you two are there for each other! Whatever path he takes, I hope it's one that brings him true peace and happiness! Know that I wish him all the best! 💖

[@VioletJoy]

Your view on people's personal choices is so loving. There are no strings attached. No pressure. The door was left open. So beautifully handled. For his sake, hopefully he'll get away at some point.

[@angelh3771]

Why hopefully? If he's happy back home and that's where he wants to be then be happy for him. It's not like he's going back to jonestown .

[@Hjfvvdst]

The way I look at life is, you only get one. Be as happy as you can. See as much as you can. Enjoy as much as you can. Help as much as you can.

[@joytrout9447]

So happy for you and love this channel praying God blessed you always 🙏🏻

[@clarissathompson]

I think, overall, he realized that choice is a factor in his life. It’s up to him to decide now, it’s a wonderful thing

[@zuzuspetals9281]

It’s so difficult to think about leaving everything that’s familiar to you and your family and friends even when you feel confined by them. The unknown is really scary and frightening and can feel dangerous. Not everyone has the same drive to step out and go into the world alone. Be loving and patient with him. He may go home and change his mind as he matures.

[@misrose673]

I love how supportive y'all were, and respectful of his choices! That must have been impactful on him, since he didn't get that support at home. I hope he finds where he wants to be wholeheartedly ❤️ I had to cut off contact with my family because of abuse, and although our stories aren't all the same, it's amazing to watch you deal confidently with your family with grace and understanding.

[@VioletJoy]

💜💜💜 Yes! If only we all had supportive family members like Lizzie. I'm glad you got out. Best wishes to you.

[@misrose673]

@@VioletJoy Agreed. It's a good thing we can build our own chosen family when we grow up 😊Thank you for your kind words! 💖

[@annyoung6560]

I just subscribed to your channel and am really enjoying it.

[@AussieCat111]

Is it pretty common for people to leave being Amish and later go back? And then are they viewed differently once they return to the Amish community? Wishing him all the best whatever he decides.

[@brucemitchell4581]

Far be it from me to be the judge of our lives ! Love our family and friends with all our hearts ❤️

[@jennythoroughman6417]

God was planting seeds. Maybe, now, that he can contact family members he can plan ahead.

[@Notcoolmom]

It must be really hard to leave the Amish community. You must feel so small going from somewhere that everyone knows everyone, to somewhere the world just passes you by

[@reneemcgowan5684]

I think the saddest part of this entire situation is that the possibility of estrangement even exists. I know that "shunning" is a longstanding Amish tradition, but it's sad. I don't care what my child does or what they believe, I will never shun them. So sad.

[@crumblytoast]

girl i love you so much! and am so glad u got to meet him. so I'm just curious, how will you go forward with him? will u continue to show him the same respect that he's deciding to go Amish again, even tho you may think it may be the best thing to separate from that community?

[@ayannageorge5258]

Your Shorts poped up in my feed and I am watching because I am interested in the Amish culture. I am also interested in the Jewish culture. We all will make our own decisons, regarding faith. I have noticed that you are transparent and steadfast. I have made my own decison regarding Jesus Christ, no one will change my mind, but I will listen to anyone and converse with them. I love your videos. ❤

[@srely3786]

Well, life for a young man in an Amish community is going to be more positive than for a young woman. It’s just set up to uphold men over women, so he’ll be okay. But, maybe he will leave again so you can get to know each other better. At least he knows he has a support system if he does decide to leave again.

[@thelaundress11]

Do Amish do a Rumpspringa, where you get to leave the community for a year when you become an adult and then decide if you wanna go back or not ? Or did I imagine that this is a thing ?

[@bonsaikitty29]

From what I gathered in her video about that, most of them do. But the one she grew up in did not allow that. So to leave they had to sneak away.

[@sierrarmcclain]

Do you share more in any other videos about why you left and how it was for you learning so many new things after you left?

[@louisanthony6242]

I really enjoy your videos and I would just like to ask you one question how many of your brothers and sisters are still Amish and how many have left also do you know the Amish potato I really like his channel also

[@suebell5870]

Hopefully he understands that the outside world is not the awful, evil place he may have been told.

[@KateCarew]

Well…that’s relative! I hope that he doesn’t feel any shame about his time out here. I hope he’s able to feel at ease with his human need and desire to explore curiosity.

[@crow_feather]

​@@KateCarewAgreed! It is highly relative! The reality is that there is a lot in this world that's truly terrible, and it makes sense that people would want a close tight knit community where they're loved, and shielded away from all of that. Rather than judge a situation that we haven't lived, concerned that a community we know little to nothing about is potentially harming him by attempting to scare him away from joining mainstream society, I think it's best that we realize we know nothing about such situations as outsiders, and that it's therefore not for us to judge. This holds especially true given that relatives both in the Amish community and out of it, were emphasizing the importance of not influencing his decision, but instead allowing him to decide for himself what he wants to do. That's actually a deeply loving stance, and the complete antithesis of a stance that is in any way controlling.

[@KateCarew]

@@crow_feather sometimes walking away from the familiar, the thing we’ve felt stifled by gives us the appreciation of it we need to go back? Ultimately we all need the safety to be free, to choose our path. He’d young, and he said he can’t envision his life as an Amish man forever, and that’s okay!! He can take some time. I don’t know what you have to do to get shunned but I don’t think he’s building up to it? Maybe he needs to be with his family until his parents are gone? Who knows, but I think he’s been given the gift of finding a place he could call home out of the community and maybe IF he leaves next time he’ll be able to do it confidently? I have no opinion about what life is better…I used to think it would be “so fun” to be Amish. I grew up on a farm, we live in an area with Amish folks, and I thought YES, they’ve got it all figured out. But the truth is, I romanticized it. I made friends with some during their Rumspringa and that’s what made me realize NOPE. I really couldn’t hack it. Sure, the beautiful communal living, the quaint candlelit bedrooms and practical austerity were all so appealing but I conveniently left the rigidity, religion, obedience and lack of outside influence out of my fantasy. Conversely, I imagine a lot of young Amish folks fantasize about the English world and it’s not all they’d hoped when they get to enter it. Fun for a while, an excursion but not forever.

[@redwoodrebelgirl3010]

​​@@KateCarew Wow! I grew up romanticizing the Amish as well. Interestingly, it was that TV show _"Breaking Amish,"_ that showed me sides of the Amish world, of which I had not necessarily been aware, & that I had not really considered. I had to leave my family, tribe, community, & WHOLE WORLDVIEW when I left the devout orthodox (LDS) Mormonism, in which I was raised. It was a heartbreaking, Spirit crushing, Soul-splitting decision leaving (LDS) Mormonism. Dealing with the consequences within my family, & losing my once close-knit community, & safety-net, & MY TRIBE, MY PEOPLE, & the sudden realization that this very spelled-out plan for life, & the Next Life, & all the ( in my opinion often _wrong_ ) "answers" to EVERYTHING-- *_MY WHOLE WORLDVIEW,_* that I'd been given, raised with, had programmed into me since before Birth, was all SUDDENLY GONE, & I would HAVE TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT FOR MYSELF, FROM SQUARE ONE, WAS TERRIFYING. *_STARKLY TERRIFYING._* It was, at the same time, Liberating & exhilarating... ...& the most TERRIFYING THING I'd ever done. I left (LDS) Mormonism for many of the same reasons that I would likely have ended up leaving the Amish. Only I think it would be much, much harder to leave the Amish. I was RAISED in the world of "the English". And, I was NOT raised in Utah, so I was definitely SHELTERED, but raised IN THE WORLD, as a religious minority. So I was a FAIRLY normal person, as even devout, orthodox (LDS) Mormons tend to be, when raised OUTSIDE the "Mormon Corridor"-- (Utah, Idaho, parts of Arizona, Colorado, etc) --AKA "The Moridor" (Sounds kinda like Mordor, yeah? 🤣) (I moved to Utah to attend University [BYU] & lived there for a good 7 years. That place scares the hell out of me. 😵) Anyway... I'm glad that I only had to deal with leaving (LDS) Mormonism, & NOT the Amish. Though... ...maybe if I had been RAISED Amish, & NOT KNOWN the outside world, I wouldn't have had such a "rebellious" streak. Or, maybe, that "rebellious" streak is just part of me, & would have made the same, or worse, problems for me, within the Amish, as it did in (LDS) Mormonism. I guess I will never know, for sure. But, the more I learn about the Amish, The more I LOVE the rural, low-tech, renunciate lifestyle, *_AND,_* the more I know that I want it *_WITHOUT_* the obedience to outside authority, & what I see as sexism & various forms of oppression within the Amish. I would like to live a very rural, low-tech, secluded, renunciate, Spiritual life, with my partner & family, on my OWN terms. (Following the Direction of God, through Holy Spirit. I will absolutely bow, & bow down to the ground, to God's Authority. _I will show great, grave respect,_ _& great, Loving GRATITUDE_ to Spiritual Masters, & anyone further ahead on the Spiritual Path than I am, Who might see fit to Bless me with their Guidance, Wisdom, Diksa, & Teaching. I will bow to the proper Earthly Representatives of God. But, *_~I choose~_* Whom I recognize as having Spiritual Mastery. No one TELLS me to Whom I should submit, except GOD & MY HIGHER SELF.) Though, I do have great respect for the Amish. And, there's _STILL A PART OF ME_ that romanticizes it all, & kinda wishes...

[@KateCarew]

@@redwoodrebelgirl3010 wow, this was written so beautifully and eloquently 🙏🏻 I’ve always thought about how hard it would be leave Mormonism. I’ve had a few friends who left and I don’t live in Mordor (great joke! 😂) but there’s a Mormon community here that’s unusually large for being out of the “homeland” so to speak. I want to same things you want but I don’t have the wherewithal to so concisely say it. And there’s no need for redundancy. A life of simplicity, humility, and openness to spiritual guidance, growth and intervention. I think the more strident and devout the harder it is to get away. Some people over simplify and talk about programming and brainwashing but I don’t believe that, I think it’s the nature of an insular life. You depend more on the familiar. My father was raised devoutly catholic, he studied to be a priest but never took order despite finishing the training, my mother is the daughter of a polish born Holocaust survivor. I never felt like I had ONE thing I belonged to it was two different worlds and sets of traditions, They had a lot of crossover and similarities but fundamental differences like “who is the messiah?” 😂 Ultimately I’m deeply grateful to have gotten both. It’s helped me feel at ease with the idea we can choose our own path, while at the same time being aware of devotion as an imperative. To be truly dedicated one must be able to sacrifice some ego. And I should add, I think the idea of a simpler life is widely appealing to those of us who have a spiritual bent? We recognize the grind, the damaging ways that come with navigating our world, how easily we can lose sight of what’s truly important. Deep Down…I think most people when hard pressed would have to agree that hard work, simplicity and a belief in a higher power is a healthy way to adopt a balanced life. And the thing is, it doesn’t have to be all or nothing. People are so HARD on themselves and they set themselves up for failure or self sabotage. Tiny changes can bring us closer to this aspirational yet likely unattainable shift in lifestyle. Little things, swap out a phone in the bathroom for reading, plant a small veggie garden, take a walk instead of watching a tv show. Very small things that add up to a more meaningful and present life. I watched someone make potato starch last week, he said obviously he didn’t HAVE to do it but every month he takes on a simple task to remind himself to be grateful for things so easily taken for granted. We waste a lot less when we know what went into the things we are so acclimated to?

[@maryashleyvance3173]

You mentioned God, are you still or have you become Christian since leaving? Would you call the Amish religion Christian or something adjacent, and why? I’d love to hear more about the beliefs of that church/your spiritual journey.

[@Denise-pn1tj]

I think your nephew should meet Eli Yoder before he goes back m. That way he can get the larger picture.

[@lizzieenswellness]

Too late for that 😂 he will decide on his own if he wants to come back or not. There’s no need to try and convince him

[@Denise-pn1tj]

@@lizzieenswellness I understand I was just thinking that perhaps speaking to a gentleman who’s gone through it and if I’m not mistaken, he left and went back and left again might give him some perspective. He could ask questions is all I meant. Praying for y’all. God bless you. And your family

[@paulstejskal]

Wow that is crazy. If you get to talk to him maybe encourage him to think it through because it sounds like he hasn’t considered everything.

[@natashaw401]

Yes good meeting nephew dang going back but tried

[@heathermichael3987]

Congratulations 🎉 ❤️

[@heathermichael3987]

I hope he comes back to see you ❤️

[@sarahmonte1069]

I wonder if building more connections and a stronger community here would help him not feel as lonely.

[@joytrout9447]

Hope you keep up the recipes

[@theforeigner6988]

Ens? I have many relatives by the name Ens... We are Mennonites from Russia, living in Germany since the early nineties.

[@dennisdevore1648]

Lizzie, you mentioned your son. Do you have a husband? Other children? Will you show us a family (in your home)?

[@emmalinekim9822]

Did he get to drive a car?

[@Kevin-xi6ts]

Maybe he will come back. Will you be able to keep in contact with him?

[@lijohnyoutube101]

Not really if he goes back to the community.

[@pbear7814]

I had no idea how similar the Amish community are to FLDS.

[@KronosIV]

Damn, that's a lot for a 20 something to decide. I think would have had a really hard time.

[@AnoraJohnson]

I've heard about something called Rümspringa. However, I'm noticing that the practice might not be the norm at all. How differently do various communities treat adolescent exploration of culture?

[@ernestimken6969]

Does every Amish family have members who left?

[@natashaw401]

Once someone gets used to wearing regular clothes instead of a "uniform" would he be ok

[@JonBrase]

TBH, American society has changed a lot in the past 20 years. There's probably a bit more culture shock than there was for you, and I think a lot of people that would have welcomed you back then would recommend to your nephew that he go back these days.

[@mellie4174]

Probably, he just needed to get plugged into a church so that he can feel a sense of community.

[@308dad8]

Family is extremely important. Most important is how you find and serve God and what god You serve. If he doesn’t really want to be Amish for life he will leave again.

[@Mphscat]

Forgive me if you've mentioned this but was your current spouse Amish as well and left? I know from watching "Escaping Polygamy" on tv that it happens that way often. Your nephew could have experienced the car during Rumspringa which seems more logical.

[@Cskammel]

She had explained in another video that her Amish community does not practice Rumspringa.

[@suesutton1180]

Since your nephew left before he joined the church, if he wanted could he join an old order or new order Amish community? Wouldn’t he still be Amish just not the Swarztenturber sect?

[@adairjanney7109]

its sad that so many seem to give up the religion when they leave, that is the problem with this Amish thing, they should have never gotten rid of technology and human comfort, its not scriptural they need a reformation if they want their communities to survive at all, otherwise theyll be one or two families and not a community anymore.

[@sararivers3044]

Do you speak German?

[@murraykelm5691]

I wonder if mennonites would accept an Amish deserter, it might be a slower less stressful transition to the English world, the mennonites i know embrace technology completely.

[@prion42]

I'm going to be ignorant here, but doesn't your order or community have rumspringa? I thought teens were supposed to go into the city and experience modern life so they could decide.

[@lizzieenswellness]

not my order :)

[@hengineer]

I think if you can peak his interest in other areas of learning it might help. I can't speak to females but us men need some sort of purpose. and If you can show him different areas of really cool things he can do, it might show him a bit more of what is possible. If he really enjoys working with his hands, maybe he might be interested in mechanical things that might not exist in Amish communities, like big cranes, electricity or electronics. maybe the design of things like engineering.

[@apebass2215]

Everyone needs a purpose, male or female. Plenty of Amish men work with machinery and engineering, it's not an alien concept to them.

[@tigresmom5654]

Are you all assigned a birth cerificate and social security number when you're born?

[@lizzieenswellness]

Birth certificate but not ss

[@thepunpolice11]

Don't you guys have rumspringa before you get baptised?

[@RampagingPixie]

Not all Amish groups do that.

[@vp.vii4]

No. She is from a very strict Amish community

[@thepunpolice11]

@@RampagingPixie ah, thanks. Shocking TV and movies aren't 100% accurate.

[@yahuahismybanner6877]

The messiah comes soon we all better get obeying the 10 commandments. Get our houses in order!

[@EvilFleesBeforeMe]

Hun, Jesus prophesied that the end times would happen to that generation mat24.34 not a future generation. All has been fulfilled

[@user-lz4rb7by3q]

In the times I’ve seen your videos, you never seem to discuss what’s going on with you. Are you married now? What do you do for a living? Things like that. I can totally understand your leaving the Amish Community. Now, I’m not here to bash any religion. From prior videos I’ve watched I’m sure it’s easier for a male to return to the church as opposed to a female. I feel that the communal shunning of someone because they’ve come to a conclusion that the life is not for them, is unnecessary pressure and totally unfair. Even if some have left and return doesn’t seem to lighten up the punishment. In many of the days religions, one thing that really bothers me is the lack of the word or better yet the action of “Forgiveness?” It’s a cornerstone of Faith Based Religions. Or at least it should be!! If you get a chance take a look into when the hurricane and flood hit down in the southern USA, Joel Osteen would not let any of these displaced people from the storm and needed shelter, he wouldn’t let anyone into his MEGA CHURCH, because the carpets were just replaced. He and his Family could have jumped into one of their jets and escaped to a calmer land. Now I ask you, what kind of “ man of God” is that? I’m sure some of these were Church members too!! Disgusting!! It’s all about Money! And people still attend his services!! I don’t know how they can ignore what he had done!! I don’t think this of the Amish Community, but the Joel Osteen’s and Kenneth Copeland’s of the World should be held accountable for the Con Men they are!! Whatever you may or may note answer me - I wish you Well!🙏🏻👼😎👼🙏🏻👼🙏🏻

[@emmanuelchacon9967]

So no one spoke to him about the spiritual cost of your soul being amish and the doctrine is of demons

[@wendycunningham-zi5xj]

What about a Mennonite or Charity community? (Not the worldly Protestant church - I came out of that - waste of time). At the end of the day, only repentance and true faith in Jesus Christ is the answer. We must die and resurrect like He did and then abide in Him! He said « I am the Light of the world. » Also, « What shall it profit a man if he gain the whole world, yet lose his soul? » Forget tradition. Follow Jesus. The way is narrow and difficult, but leads to life. Remember, Jesus IS The Way! Please don’t walk. Run! May you, your nephew and siblings all begin to walk towards The Light! ❤