Update Windows HDR Calibration app to get a perfect black level. I believe we did it 💪!

[@noniebumst]

Big ups man. Stumbled upon your channel today. You are on the forefront of giving actual practical advice on this subject. Thanks!

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Awesome! Thank you 👍

[@noniebumst]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 If have a question regarding the 1026 nits cap in Auto-HDR. I have a Q7C, couple years old, supports HDR10+, Peak Brightness of 1500 nits. Just as a heads up; I don't have this issue where the slider does not correspond with the display information's value of peak brightness. It's 1:1 on my System. Will it mess up my image in Auto-HDR Games if set the peak brightness slider in the calibration app above 1026 nits?

[@razorhanny]

If you keep making Windows HDR videos everyday I'll keep watching and liking it. 😁

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Thanks 👍

[@YOBAMUSTDIE]

Next step is Microsoft adding proper calibration for sdr content in hdr mode to set up brightness higher and also to set up black and mid grey points or gamma to reduce obviously over brighten of of shadows and mid colors which makes sdr content look likes gamma is 1.8 or less.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

That would be great

[@vitiok78]

And send us free calibration kits with instructions))

[@vitiok78]

And send us free calibration kits with instructions))

[@BeginsWithTheEnd]

yeah this app has finally made SDR content within HDR mode tolerable but unfortunately doesn't fully fix it yet. and many PC monitors still do not have enough advanced calibration settings to compensate for this yet. my samsung monitor actually locks me out of more advanced calibration settings when in HDR mode

[@guywithalltheanswers6942]

Just switch off hdr. HDR has a different gamma curve. There is an sdr mode on your tv or monitor for a reason.

[@Desleiden]

Thanks to you, I'm enjoying my LG c1 playing my favorites PC games!!

[@ezoiso4745]

You finally did it!!! Now one day when I'll have windows 11 I can have perfect HDR

[@TheAbdID]

So I own a qn90b and it indeed hard clips at 2200 as you said. Unfortunately we don't have hgig. The only thing that is close to hgig is static tonemapping (DTM off with a roll off to 3600 nits). Also if I use the wcg app it showd estimated Max CLL is 1445. Should I know increase the windows hdr calibration slider until it shows 2200 under WCG Image viewer? Good content as always. I wish you would own the same TV as me. Your contribution and effort is unmatched

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Using static tone mapping, move the slider until it disappears, and that's the value. Unfortunately, all Auto HDR supported games now don't go beyond Maxcll 1026 even if you set the slider to max. You'll need native HDR games to get the best results, I believe. Samsung tone mapping is not Maxcll based. It's MDL (maximum display luminance) based. I hope to learn more about Samsung once I have the chance to collaborate with TKK and I will tell you all about it

[@PhilipClouds]

So C2 42 inch Auto HDR settings should be 0.0 blacks, 780 brightness (really 797) and set C2 Dynamic Tone mapping setting to HGiG. Trying this today!

[@khanafes]

Thanks for the informative video. Great job and keep it up. I Have a certified HDR1000 display (Asus PG35VQ) which can output 1000 nits of peak brightness but doesn't have the cool options you have on your OLED TV (Hgig, tone mapping). When I use Windows HDR calibration the bars disappear at 360 luminance. That being said, should I use 360 or 1000 luminance ? Sorry maybe you explained that in the video but it is a bit confusing for me. Thanks

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

That's because of the Tone mapping, they're other displays where the logo never clips. In yours try 1000 and see how it looks, if you see clipping everywhere then set it to the clipping point

[@RandomUser-tj3mg]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 on my oled laptop the logo is invisible from the start. Maximum peak brightness is 600 nits

[@romerolemstra8747]

Hey nice video! Thanks to you I got a better auto hdr experience with my pc on my oled! Also this might be a silly question with a simple answer but I do want to know if I want to play games with hdr implemented and I have auto hdr turned on in the windows settings, will it switch to auto hdr anyways or will it just turn off bc of the hdr implemented in the game?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

If you turn HDR ON the Game Auto HDR will turned OFF, and if you turn OFF HDR on the Game Auto HDR will stay OFF until you restart the game

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Watch this recent summary kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKuXmJ6pm9Jmfqs

[@romerolemstra8747]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Oh so Auto HDR will always automatically stay off when a native HDR game is running

[@YoshiKoopa999]

W vid my guy, btw hows the Microsoft Store in like Black/Red?, is it like a Skin? It looks soo good, how can i get it

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hprPh5SajJaLppI

[@MuzdokOfficial]

I did that for my CX calibration. custom tone map with rolloffs at 100. Gives a little bit more brightness and bit more bright specular highlights. Im using that instead of hgig now. (Dynamic Tone Mapping Off). But outside of game mode i adjusted the roll offs though.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

That's interesting, did you do the calibration or was it a professional?(idk if you are a pro, let me know) I thought the best would be to not have a roll off point and instead follow ST2084 and hard clip at the actual peak brightness of the specific panel

[@MuzdokOfficial]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Not a pro but I have learned from some very talented calibrators.

[@MuzdokOfficial]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 yes thats what the rolloffs to 100 does

[@MuzdokOfficial]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Its not the best for movies its more nice for games

[@Tisirfall]

@@MuzdokOfficial lpl!

[@JoNaXKaY]

I love the passion you feel on every video. Ty very much for explaining a lot of different things. And I have 2 question for you. Would appreciate your help. Every time you calibrate the tv using the app, the previous calibration is replaced? And 2 What is the limit of the 48gb HDMI 2.1 bandwidth? I mean... What can I turn on? Can I have 4k, HDR, 144hz, gsync, RGB full and 12 bit color depth? Is that inside the 48gb limit? All at the same time. I can't find ANY info of this limit

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Yes, the previous gets replaced and here's the answer to all your bandwidth questions www.murideo.com/hdmi-21-bandwidth-calculator.html

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

I can tell you that 12 bits right now is not relevant because there's no content. You can get 12bits at 60hz. Dolby vision is mastered at 12 bits and downsample to 10. There are no 12 bits games and no Dolby support on PC, not even Halo. The best we can get is scRGB HDR10 which downsamples 16bits down to 10. The reason why is called HDR10 is because of 10 bits so for PC gaming that's all we can get for now.

[@JoNaXKaY]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 ty for your time. So what happens if you are without the necessary windows update and want to use the calibration app? Why is useless without the update? I was reading the requirements of the apps in the official page and there is no mention of the 2h22 update requirement.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

I tried that and it doesn't work, the changes are not saved, you change the peak brightness and you go to display settings and it is still 1499nits

[@JoNaXKaY]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I think the app was patched out then. before my calibration, when using Ctrl alt sup i couldn't really read my info on screen. Like suspend, system manager etc. After using the app right now I can clearly read the text on the way darker screen. If some else could confirm... Just my 2 cents. Ps you should try dying light 2. It has no HDR implementation, it was a nightmare to calibrate. Hope this help

[@GucciGamerTV]

How do you think this performs in comparison to using the HLG HDR trick? I've been using HLG 24/7 in Windows and it looks great on the desktop as well as games that don't have any HDR or a bad HDR implementation. Do you recommend using the Windows 11 app over HLG?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Absolutely use the Auto HDR on supported games, the HDR range is going to be perfect (unless the game has black level raised Which is fixable) and specially the colors are going to be more accurate. The HLG trick looks fantastic but the colors are inaccurate, it doesn't matter a lot for gaming and you might like the more vibrant colors of HLG but on supported games the Auto HDR is superior in every single way

[@GucciGamerTV]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 thanks for the response! I’ll be using the Auto HDR from now on then. The one thing that I do notice about the HLG trick is that it allows you to play in HDR while still being able to stream your game in SDR on Discord or Twitch. Usually if HDR is active at system level, HDR content will look completely blown out when you try to stream it in SDR, but the HLG trick, because it’s an HDMI override allows you to output SDR content while streaming while still getting beautiful HDR on your screen!

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

@@GucciGamerTV That's a great point👍 The streamers choice

[@WeirdEdz]

@@GucciGamerTV the new obs allows you to have hdr on but record in sdr

[@TheKick88]

Love the channel keep up the great work quick question should the HDR paper white for a dark room be a 100 nits

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

It depends on the game, you have to check if the game doesn't raise the peak brightness along with the Paperwhite, which it shouldn't but sometimes happens, watch this example

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZO0gKibgquphJY

[@MuzdokOfficial]

150 paper white is nice

[@TheKick88]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 would it be possible to get your settings for far cry 6 it's driving me nuts trying to figure it out

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

@@TheKick88 HGIG slider to 800 and 180 scRGB . I don't have the game installed now and I didn't know when I tried it everything I know now but I was impressed with FC6 HDR specially the colors. Take a screenshot with this setting and open it with HDR WCG image viewer app to verify that it's MaxCLL800

[@drblitz3092]

My g2 Oled is supposed to be flicker free. But when I record the tv screen with my iPhone in slow motion, there is constant flickering. I believe that is why I’m getting headaches from it. I recorded my MacBook Pro screen and there was no flickering.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

That's completely normal, the OLED screen has a PWM of 40 Mhz while still being a sample and hold display and here is the proof: go to settings general channels channel tuning and press repeatedly 1111111 then click on more under DVI/HDMI status and under video Link it says Pixel clock 40 Mhz

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

I don't think you are getting a headache because of flickering, I would like to help you, what kind of content and what settings are you using

[@drblitz3092]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I think I read somewhere anything under 1,000 pwm htz can cause problems for people sensitive to it. It’s a great picture but I don’t look forward to using it because of the discomfort I’m getting

[@drblitz3092]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 mainly ps5 games. But every time I turn on my oled, within 10 minutes, I can feel a headache coming on

[@FireGate_13]

Ι have a NANO LG Tv (SK8000). Rtings measured the tv's peak brightness to 530 nits. help me ... what value should I set to max in the windows HDR calibration tool? ps. the tv does not have tone mapping=hgig ,only on -off.. please help.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

First you need to figure out what is the tone mapping target of the TV, it might be 4000, 1000, etc. The try to see where the logo is disappearing and use that value (the games are maxing out at MaxCll 1000 for now even if you go over that), if the TV has an option to turn tone mapping off and hard clip (that would be like HGIG) use that and Try Setting it to 530. Otherwise trial and error until you see the best result

[@LoveMeBack]

Classy recommended 51 for new tv's and after a while check again. But off course if it’s crushing already at 51 then dial it in.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

I think that is a great recommendation, out of the box mine was crushing blacks wildly, but now it's just perfect

[@ac3__583]

Hey thanks for the video! Are you Cuban ?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Yes

[@ranniel609]

In what option do I have to put tone mapping if my tv does not support HGIG? I don’t have an Oled tv so the blacks are not that black but the brightness is better. Glad to know your channel bro, you remember me when youtube start and people start to make videos in their houses instead of an studio. Keep doing it.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

I'd need to know the peak brightness of your display, if you don't know, move the brightness slider until you see the pattern disappear, I did it in my LCD monitor and being 350 nits the pattern disappeared at 300. Just adjust the patterns until they disappear

[@ranniel609]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I try it with tone mapping off. The tv manufacture says it’s 1500 nits but in 1280 the pattern is not longer vissible.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Tone mapping OFF isn't going to give you the max Peak brightness of your display because Auto HDR from Windows 11 right now seems to be capped at MaxCLL 1026nits based on my testing but it should look more accurate. Try the dynamic tone mapping also and see if it works better. Basically after 980 on the calibration screen you won't see any difference until they fix that problem

[@ranniel609]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 ok I discover something strange in my tv. If I have game mode enable on the tv the value will be 1280 but if I disable it then I will have to go to 2100 to not see it. I’m confused but in rtings says that in HDR the sustained 25% window brightness of my tv is 1833 cd/m². I will choose the last one as it’s supposed to be more accurate than when game mode is on. Thanks for the help dude I really appreciate it. You should create a discord server too.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

No, the slider is not correct, at 2200 if you check display settings you will see 4000 nits, what that tells me is that your display is doing tone mapping at 4000 nits, I would use game mode instead to get the better input lag

[@lmbits1047]

KZbin HDR using Brave Browser looks exactly the same as using Edge or Chrome. I guess it reads the metadata just fine. Firefox doesn't even offer the HDR mode.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Good to know, I've never tried that one. I do have chrome and HDR doesn't work on it. I always use Edge for HDR although I don't like Edge, I'm going to try that one

[@lmbits1047]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 What do you mean HDR doesn't work using Chrome? KZbin offers HDR for me when using Chrome. I tested the usual LG HDR example. That same video didn't load up as HDR using Firefox but it it did using the other 3 browsers I mentioned.

[@Tomiply]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 HDR works on Chrome. Are you using an old build of Chrome for some reason? It definitely works.

[@MuzdokOfficial]

Yes we did it. I wrote to them also. I Told them as oled owners we need to be able to reduce black level to 0.00 instead of 0.050. I have a calibrated CX

[@MuzdokOfficial]

The CX also have the Fine Tune area setting since an update😎

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Awesome 👍!

[@MuzdokOfficial]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Cheers

[@Manoellm]

Great!!! I'll try It.

[@Ekami67]

So, I have the ROG Zephyrus Duo 16 (2023) GX650 with a miniLED screen capable of DisplayHDR 1000/Dolby vision, the screen can reach a peak brigness of 1100 nits. When I use the Windows HDR calibration app, the result is a "washed out" screen so I have to go back to the previous calibration and adjust the colors in the NVIDIA control panel. Now if I follow your video correctly that is expected? Because the Windows desktop is not using HDR? How come the desktop looks way better on SDR (HDR turned off) than HDR? (I have a hard time to understand :( )

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

The desktop is SDR inside HDR, that's why, the black level is raised and that'swhyit looks washed-out, SDR looks the best for desktop usage. Use HDR for HDR games and videos only. Windows needs to fix this.

[@Ekami67]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I see, thanks a bunch! :)

[@Ekami67]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Looks like Windows 11 preview build 23516 will add support for true HDR wallpapers. That won't fix the windows looking washed out but that's still something :)

[@slaynnyt8130]

Nice. i didn´t know about this app, improved HDR content a lot! I still hate the HDR mode on Windows though for SDR content, the black always look grayish so when just using the dektop (not playing games or HDR content) i leave HDR disabled (Win+Alt+B my best new shortcut). Only problem with that is when viewing KZbin videos I miss on the HDR videos lol or have to keep toggling windows HDR on/off just to check if YT video has HDR version. Really wish Microsoft fixed the SDR content in HDR mode!

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

All SDR content on the desktop is Limited within HDR. Have GPU Full and force Limited for all SDR content on Windows, feel free to increase the SDR/ HDR slider. For SDR games max out that slider force Limited and also lower the black level using FTDA-16 or alternately Screen Brightness 46 (black level).

[@slaynnyt8130]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 nice that seemed to fix SDR content with HDR enabled! However it messed with HDR content, got blacks crushed there. With this setup however I can still enjoy using desktop and KZbin with HDR enabled and just go in TV settings and change black levels back to full when playing HDR content...i guess its a little better than toggling Windows HDR on/off for my use case. Really wish there was a one fit all scenario solution though. Am i missing something?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

This is what I do: Screen Brightness 46 (when Motion Pro) or FTDA-16 (when Gsync). Keep TV in Full (Auto if GPU is Full). Most Native HDR games have the black level raised in this exact amount (they are the same as Forcing limited for the black level but without affecting the whites). Also all Auto HDR supported games have the black level raised exactly in these values. So basically it's a rare case where I have to move the black level setting

[@slaynnyt8130]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I did some more testing today with the knowledged you shared (thanks a lot btw!) and I`m not very knowleable at all in this subject so it`s a little harder to know when something is correct, but IMO there still isn`t a set and forget perfect setting yet for Windows, so some adjusments still need to be made for different contents, the hard thing is to know exactly which is the best setting for each content... lol. But from my humble findings...there are 3 major kinds of content on Windows 11 currently: regular SDR, "good" HDR content and "bad" HDR content. Examples of "good" HDR is like Cyberpunk (with the latest patches) and also almost all KZbin HDR videos which look best with Full RGB in both TV and Nvidia settings (no crushed blacks and no raised blacks either, it just looks pristine same as using the native KZbin app on the TV. Then there is the "bad" HDR content, that in my experience is some games in this Auto HDR mode and other older flaky HDR games with bad HDR implementations, those seem to look best with the settings you mentioned (Nvidia Full and TV Limited), and also SDR content looks perfect with these settings in windows HDR mode, basically the same as it looks with HDR disabled and TV/PC on Full/Full. So what I am going to do now i guess is keep HDR on with the PC/TV Full/Limited setting so that my desktop looks good and also youtube SDR videos, but when i see that a video is HDR i switch to TV Full also as it this kind of content looks better with Full/Full... Sorry for the long-ass rambling, hope it can make some sense, sometimes I just want to throw PC out the Window as its so hard to fully utilize my LG C1 to its best potential on Windows lol. Hope MS improves this in the short future by at least making the desktop work flawless in HDR mode without resorting to those hacks. Cheers and keep up the good content man!

[@markymoo22]

I'm confused. For PC use Windows/Gaming. Should I calibrate the TV using LG or do I calibrate in Windows using autocal? Or both? I just want the best settings. One for PC use, one for photoshol work and one for PC Gaming! Hole someone can help.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Games are not color managed applications, and ICC profiles have no impact in most games. Only Auto HDR supported games support the HDR calibration app, which creates a color profile. Check out the TV settings I use

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGfYmJR-nq-MhpI

[@markymoo22]

@plasmatvforgaming9648 No problem. Thanks for reply. I just didn't want to spend 145 dollars on LG if it calibrate the TV, but then Windows just does its own thing. I wondered if it was best to have a profile for accurate colours for editing (I know this makes the screen dimmer) then a profile for gaming (SDR and HDR)

[@beero-tng6870]

Hi. I have a Tv Qn90B and I only use it for movies And when I use Windows HDR Calibration The box disappears at 950 nits Even though my Tv supports 1890 nits in HDR mode, why!! Should I choose 1890 nits or what??

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

I don't know the tone mapping options the qn90b has available or if it has hgig (no tone mapping). I would use the clipping point that you see

[@lmbits1047]

I have a question regarding the color profile created. When I use the TV in SDR mode would this ICC affect the SDR content? As it is selected as default but it seems to be under (Advanced Color) so I am not 100% sure about that. Could Windows have 2 profiles one for SDR and another for HDR?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

That one is for HDR only. ICC profiles work for color managed applications only and games are not affected unless they support Auto HDR, I might be missing something but that's as far as I know

[@lmbits1047]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Yes you can actually select ICC profiles in certain apps but I remember back in the days I could use the profile to change how Windows looks in general I don't remember how I did it but you can.

[@vitiok78]

I think that they've just bought an OLED display there at Microsoft))

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

😂

[@vincent6210]

I just calibrated on my c3 and it was perfect 0 on minimum luminance but for Max I had to slide over 2k, does this mean it will vary on different models? (Kept dynamic tone mapping on while calibration) black stabilser and white both 10 and sharpness is 0.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Dynamic Tone Mapping has a 4000 nits curve by default. Change that using the HDMI signaling override menu (step on select mode 1113111) and change Mastering Peak Maxcll to 1000 then calibrate using Tone Mapping OFF to then go back to Dynamic tone mapping if that's what you like. I use HGIG for everything unless I'm using OLED motion pro high

[@vincent6210]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 changing it to hgig got me the same values.(780,790) So I always get better picture quality on Apple TV because of ycbcr 444 and since my GPU is not rtx it's limited to 8bit on ycbcr422. If I need 12bit RGB on hdr I have to change refresh rate to less than 30hz. ( I think this is a gpu limitation) I will be upgrading soon to 7800xt GPU to get more out of the display. Do you recommend going hdr gameoptimiser even on Apple TV or just on pc? I have been on HDR cinema(user) keeping black level at 51 or 52.( That's my only tweak if the areas look too dim and dark)

[@polanialmoni6274]

please help! i have the g8 oled connected to my 4070 RTX laptop, after doing the calibration it says "please keep the app on just one display!!!" and won't let me save the profile! the laptop display is not active! and it set to just the g8 one!

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Try this and see if it works www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-run-your-laptop-with-the-lid-closed#:~:text=You%20can%20change%20this%20behavior,within%20the%20Power%20Options%20settings.

[@polanialmoni6274]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 thanks for the replay! I did a restart to my laptop and then it worked as it should. I think it's a bit better now.

[@GAMINGPC667]

Yes sure I'm from the one who listen to your advice to send feedback that tell to make 0 nits for oled black

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Awesome 👍

[@PlayerOne101.]

Do you still use the cru to change the windows hdr 1500 nits to 800 nits whilst using the windows hdr app

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

No, using this app is much better because it saves the full frame max tone luminance which the CRU has but before 22H2 update it wasn't able to save, and also with this app we can now adjust the black level

[@ppn7]

Does this app help only for auto HDR content or also for HDR10 games for example ?

[@RogueStatusX]

Can someone explain why when I move the slider in Windows Calibration App, once it goes past a certain point the slider disappears and all i see is the square and I have to guess where the slider is to grab it with my mouse and move it again?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

It's a bug. When that happens, go back by clicking the arrow you can't see, and it'll get fixed.

[@RogueStatusX]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 jesus, thanks again gawd!

[@GeorgeWPush]

When is screen brightness 46 recommended? (I think you told me in another video)

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

For all Auto HDR supported games, use Screen Brightness 46 or FINE TUNE DARK AREAS -16, they are equivalent. When not using VRR FTDA isn't available

[@GeorgeWPush]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 OK. Damn I haven't even tried using VRR yet. Do you recommend using it for non competitive gaming? (Which is all I've ever done prior to buying this TV) Now I'm starting to get curious about picture quality and motion clarity from your videos instead of just latency reduction...So thanks!

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

If not using BFI use VRR

[@Desleiden]

Hello bro, do you know why if I have same settings as you, with HGiG I'm clipping at 550 nits? I just don't understand. Thanks in advance!

[@Desleiden]

I just realized that when I'm in HGiG, and range full in both Nvidia control panel and tv I'm clipping at 790 nits. But when I change to full range in NV control panel and limited in tv it clips at 550 nits. So what setting should I use?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

I responded to this question last time. It's expected to crush at 530 when forcing Limited. I will update the Auto HDR on another video

[@user-Evgen3195]

Hello, why when I turn on the dtm on the TV, the picture disappears at the value 2200, and windows shows the value 4000nit?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Because your TVs Tone mapping target is 4000nits, meaning when the content tries to output 4000 your display will output its maximum peak brightness. The slider at 2200 is actually 4000, it's not working as intended, I mentioned that on the video, they need to fix that, the bigger problem is that the games using Auto HDR won't try to push 4000, it will cap out at 1026nits

[@user-Evgen3195]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Thanks for the answer, my TV is 800 nit, that is, I just need to put the value 800 in dtm on mode, regardless of the template?

[@user-Evgen3195]

Or is it better to enable hgig and recalibrate?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

@@user-Evgen3195 Use HGIG and 780 on the last 2 sliders. Watch this to understand why HGIG is the best option kzbin.info/www/bejne/omHckmhmhrWIqpY

[@mrflaquir4]

If my display doesnt support HGIG I just put the slider to rtings tested max peak brightness right?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Not necessary, HGIG means no tone mapping on the display. If yours doesn't have HGIG option, then it's tone mapping. What you have to find out is where's the clipping point

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Watch this unlisted video I uploaded and see where the clipping point is, then set the game Maxcll to that kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJiQopVmrs6er8k

[@mrflaquir4]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 but the clipping point in the app is lower than what windows detect as my peak brightness un advanced display. Should I check MaxCll values with wcg app?

[@mrflaquir4]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Sorry but I dont understand what I have to do. In the video it clips at 2600, should I set the windows app to that value or tweak the value until I get 2600 Maxcll in the wgc app?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

The HDR calibration app has no impact on Cyberpunk HDR or most HDR games, only for Auto HDR and some Native HDR games. The other thing is that the numbers on the app are not Maxcll, it's a weird scale.

[@allansolano5587]

For example my display is 600 nits do i put the slider at 600 nits or 570 nits or something like that ? It does uses HGIG just in case that matter

[@spartacuscreator]

You can only set the slider to for example on the C1 oled to 800 Nits to make the squares dissapear in the calibration app., IF you set it to hgig. Try any other setting in HDR mode, and you cant get that calibration.

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

I can check it out today when I get back home but the way you can test that is by using the HDR WCG image viewer app on the Microsoft store. Take a screenshot of the game with a highlight and open the screenshot with that app to see the MaxCLL which should be between 590 and 600. To take the screenshot use alt+F1 or win+alt+print screen

[@allansolano5587]

@@spartacuscreator yeah my LG display only shows 600 to dissapear the squares with HGIG because without it and without tone mapping i can go to 2000 something to make them dissapear

[@allansolano5587]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 oh ok im gonna do that then thanks for the info

[@Hugo_R]

@@allansolano5587 You put hgig and make the squares disappear

[@quaticus]

nobel prize is incoming

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

The HDR lord and savior

[@johnkeane320]

Is this app available on windows 10?

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

I believe it would not work even if it was available, on win11 you would need to upgrade to the 22h2 version on the insider program for it to work

[@johnkeane320]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 thank you

[@francis147741]

@@plasmatvforgaming9648 The 22H2 is available as a general update now so insider programme not needed? Keep up the great work Sir

[@JoNaXKaY]

@@francis147741 but it's rolling out VERY slowly. Maybe with 30 to 60 days in the worst case scenario. I'm searching for the update and my system is telling me that it's already up to date, when obviously I'm 1 kb behind.

[@CYGAN19911]

xd

[@saitama4128]

:)

[@plasmatvforgaming9648]

Check out this more updated summary kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKuXmJ6pm9Jmfqs

[@Eradifyerao]

Looks like it requires WIN11. SCREW Windows 11!!!