UPDATED Fear Guide for Surface and Underworld Routes! | Hades 2 Olympic Update

[@masonskiekonto590]

The first night I've unlocked the pact I've toggled frenzy 1 and I'm never turning it off. Hades 1 taught me the hard way that you need to adjust to faster speeds and dealing with that with other bull crap at once is nightmarish.

[@VivBrodock]

this is actually a pretty good point, I did the same thing with one level of timer, just to get my brain used to looking at the timer and judging how fast I am clearing rooms and making decisions

[@muhammedaskin1830]

yeah even after beating 32 and doing low fear runs, 2 lvl frenzy is always active to stay on form

[@dhmgeor]

To whom it may concern! The onion vow works in a weird way with the surface . I am running always on the artificer arcana , because the game is structured around how many major finds you get and the ability to get 3 more is incredible. I'm the little side areas of the rooms there are often minor finds and if you use artificer on them whatever boons were there will be onions because the game recognizes them as "new regions"

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

I want that damn 32 fear statue.

[@yadamspiezer]

Just use strength. It's busted. I know it seems harder not having DDs, but it's way easier.

[@klementa0225]

I want it too 😡 😤

[@小苹狗]

@@yadamspiezerout damaging the enemy is the way to go

[@tokilladaemon]

​@@yadamspiezeralso i think psychologically it's easier to accept a loss and get back on the horse if you play strength. I feel like it motivates you to keep banging your head on the wall without worrying about the losses, and sooner or later you will get lucky and bust through

[@sebastianzarek7056]

Me watching the video even tho I already did 32F both surface and underworld multiple times:

[@sebastianzarek7056]

Actually recently I slipped and almost died on a 32F underworld run when I was trying out the Nyx aspect at 32F. I was planning to run hera on special, so decided I can try to go Vow of Time, Revenants and Hordes at full power. I won with literally 2hp left, no DDs and 22:14 as my run time. Entered the fight with 4DDs (Hermes legendary) and 300+ HP, and vow of time started hitting me even before Chronos went into phase 2 lol. DO NOT use these together if you're going with 5 minutes Vow of Time, even if you clear rooms super quickly with hera boons.

[@archer111000]

Me watching this video even though I haven't even played Hades 2 yet. I've been avoided any actual gameplay of it so not to spoil myself, but these sort of meta discussions I get to watch!

[@skone_aseema]

My most consistent 32 fear runs on the surface have been Nyx aspect with the coat. Zeus attack and Dem's cast plus hailstorm. The issue I always have with using Poseidon attack with Hestia cast is that the normal rooms become way harder without Arctic Ring.

[@lombers]

The Athena keepsake is now fixed! Great timing 😊

[@DamienLby]

I tend to always have 2 fangs - 2 time - 2 menace - 1 frenzy activated, I think it's a good baseline. I like fangs, it brings welcome variety (except the effect that makes one foe unkillable until you kill all the others). I found beating 32f underworld surprisingly easy compared to what I was expecting. 32f surface though, I had a really hard time. The strategy that did it for me was to favor pain, scars and even return in order to be able to tone frenzy down, because frenzied Eris/Prom were consistently beating me, then in addition to a good damage boon, priorize Heph for trusty shield/mint condition. Had my first clear with Mel coat, attack based. One big advantage of this weapon (in addition to its great mobility, good range and good base damage xD ) is that it has a lot of very good hammers, and none that ruins it. Usually, each time you'll get a hammer during a run, you'll be able to pick a choice that helps your build.

[@VivBrodock]

I think I'm gonna wait for the Extreme Measures equivalent before doing 32 fear tbh, but will be nice to have this for the testament

[@Sonar009]

For my own part, I just turned on the first Vow of Frenzy as soon as I had access to it and then never turned it off, which served as a nice 3-point base to build off of. I knew I would eventually need it to push fear levels, so I figured I may as well adjust to the timing for dodging stuff as early as possible. Got my 32-fear statue just a couple days ago, and personally I opted for maxing everything except Pain, Frenzy, Scars, (Took I think 1 of each of these?) Forfeit, Time, and Void. (Avoided entirely) I've got a very different playstyle, though; I personally can't stand being on a timer, and I _like_ Grit and Hordes because they make it so that a build that pops off has more room to flex. Who cares if I'm hitting for 2000 when the chunkiest non-boss enemies only have 1500 health? (Exact numbers may vary)

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

Okay I tried Xinth with Posidon attack on 32 fear. Made it all the way to Chrono's second phase, got him down to 50% and then got hit by the instant death move because I got stuck on a dying hourglass's time-freeze field. I had engraved pin, but it didn't matter. The ten seconds remaining to me weren't enough to beat him. The run was solid -- I was just unlucky or careless at the last second.

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

10 fear or so is nothing because you can reach it by applying things that you can get aroudn by playing just a little bit differently. 16 fear is the turning point where the modifiers start to compound each other and it gets difficult not to make serious concessions. Each extra fear isn't just a _little bit_ harder, but _exponentially_ harder. Fear 20 is about the highest I've gotten without a bespoke plan. And 24 is probably my limit right now. There are just so many restrictions that I can't overcome it without a lot of luck.

[@MrBlurryEyes_]

Been waiting for this

[@CajunPhoenix]

this guy really hates revenants

[@MichaelWegmuller]

As someone who starts getting into 20+ fear runs, the wandering soul you have to pick up really ain't that bad as long as your timer is 7 minutes. I find extra damage or enemy speed to be much more punishing

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

That feel when you get Circe to remove a vow and she picks Denial. Denial is actually a benefical vow for the most part because it allows you to exert much more control over what boons you get. It sucks if you want lots of boons from one particular god, but if you just have one or two in mind, then you can just mill all the boons you don't want. A boon you might just not get when Denial is not active suddenly becomes a boon you're all but certain to get in conjunction with a couple rolls fo the dice.

[@masonskiekonto590]

I didn't test it on the new patch but on patch 4 I've tried using denial to force legendaries, it showed me 1 boon in tartarus and then finally that same boon and a legendary after 2 rolls. I don't know whether that was the intended behavior but rollin a lego is a separate random variable.

[@theguythatasked6400]

@@masonskiekonto590 any duo/infusion/legendary boom has the same likelihood of being offered whether you have other boons or not.

[@wildstorm3486]

⁠@@masonskiekonto590that has been patched for some time. Can’t remember which update it was. But you cannot force Duo and Legendary boons with Denial anymore. These options are suppose to make your runs more difficult. Guaranteeing Duo’s and Legendaries is not making the game more difficult.

[@sebastianzarek7056]

@@masonskiekonto590 Yep, you can't use it to force legendary/duo boons.

[@Bards.98]

Now do a 55 fear guide 🙃

[@2admie]

For me frenzy is a big no. Back in the first patch I tried 32 fear so many times without success because Eris or Charibdis would easily kill me. When I switched frenzy off, I beat it first time.

[@edgynickname1056]

32 Fear Charon Axe for the underworld was one of the easiest runs I’ve done in this game Especially if you use the Silver Wheel you just feel unstoppable

[@radmi2746]

Surprised we just didnt get the old reliable scyth/hera build

[@HU-iv1ns]

You are such a nice person :)

[@TheSUGA1202]

0:22 How to build up my fear? I just need to watch the tv atm.

[@jo40p3dr0]

I have a question. Let's say I go for the surface with forfeit, and I get Zeus on the first chamber. Will Zeus join the 4 gods pool? Or since the boon became an onion, he will not be added to the pool?

[@yadamspiezer]

You should still see a Zeus boon when the next one is offered if you wear his keepsake.

[@sh.walker]

Day 2 of asking for a weapon Tier List