The problem with heph and hestia is that exactly the point that they are the only thing not synergizing with other dps sources. Even with don you can still roid your dps with attack speed upgrades. Heph and hestia have a fixed upper bound on dps defined on pyro technique assuming enough scortch output and grand caldera multiplied by cooldown on attack boons. Every other possible damage upgrade is either a global dmg up which stacks multiplicatively so from better starting damage source you get even better bonuses, or from duo boons. You can't just pick hestia/heph attacks and roll with it cumulatively benefitting from other damage ups throughout the run. Unless you specifically build for them you don't benefit and that feels really bad.
@shreygondalia8707Ай бұрын
More boons could mean: 1. More boons from NPCs like echo, narcissus, Icarus etc 2. More boons from event gods like Dio, Artemis and Athena 3. More core god boons - We don't have tier 2 cast boons for Zeus, Aphrodite, Hestia and Heph yet. They could also add more Tier 2 boons too (bad for planned runs, good for variety) 4. Ares- Had a wild idea that if they don't wanna make Ares a core God, they could make him unique by making all the Ares boons as Duo boons with the other gods. That could be fun too. 5. More selene boons/Hexes 6. Don't forget Bouldy. 😊
@apenasgiornoАй бұрын
Boons from Zagreus would be wild af
@mateo_marvel1346Ай бұрын
More Selene hexes feels unnecesary, there are so many already
@kaitlyndh0625Ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing for ares; he would want to prolong the war/the war aspect is constant in the plot so storywise he would sort of inherently add on to other gods
@milonixon4894Ай бұрын
I totaly think the final zone boss for overworld is going to be aries. He wants to prolong the war and i wouldnt be suprised if he is allied with other people apart from nem.
@RubberGamesHDАй бұрын
I'm pretty sure the tier 2 cast boons for Zeus and Hestia are the throwable cast
@tokilladaemonАй бұрын
love the idea of multiple legendaries. i'd love something like being able to stack heph vents, so instead of resetting the timer if you hit them with a blast before it's up, it just adds another timer and they can go off sequentially, so if you have a cooldown under 5s you can monster bosses with vent
@TheBitingBatАй бұрын
One thing I really wanted for hades 2 was for us to actually get hades boons. It makes sense narratively but the dad call in hades 1 felt like a tease for what a full hades boon kit could truly be
@rageanoid4867Ай бұрын
Yeah one thing I noticed with scorch is that most bosses have several instances where they purge it, making it feel a lot worse, and making aphro’s duo suck against bosses
@ddrfreakmcflyАй бұрын
@haelian If you had trouble losing asparagus while grilling it: take some aluminum foil and lay a double layer sheet of it on your grill. Then just place your asparagus on top of the foil.
@awesomesauce2291Ай бұрын
28:00 my mom used to go to farmers markets in the summer and would buy a SHIT LOAD of corn and freeze it so we would have it over the winter. doesn’t sacrifice any of the taste either
@justarandomdoodАй бұрын
11:56 I've done the math on stream and I'll do it again right now, the math you wanna look at is the Choose Function. There's 8 gods that can give duos (so no Artemis, Athena, or Dio) and if you want trios, you choose 3 of them. 8C3 (aka 8Choose3) = 56, like Dan remembered correctly. The choose function makes it so that "order doesn't matter" in the way that Zeus, Hera, Poseidon should be counted as the same Trio boon as Poseidon, Zeus, Hera.
@skone_aseemaАй бұрын
I really like using Freezer Burn and Burning Desire with Mel Coat and Exhaust Riser
@suburbantimewaster9620Ай бұрын
Great job using the Crazy Scorch Explosion Build!
@ew275xАй бұрын
@@suburbantimewaster9620 Hopefully he does the Crazy Noisy Bizarre Town Build next
@suburbantimewaster9620Ай бұрын
@ Can’t wait for that!
@jacksonrickert1709Ай бұрын
More Infusions could fall with trios: Air Infusion: Zeus + Apollo + Aphrodite Water Infusion: Poseidon + Aphrodite + Demeter Earth Infusion: Hera + Demeter + Hephaestus Fire Infusion: Hestia + Hephaestus + Apollo
@nabilk8574Ай бұрын
may be too specific for Supergiant to want to add but a pretty cool idea
@umutmesci4731Ай бұрын
Just the fact that none of his main boons (atk, special, cast, sprint, gain) are particularly interesting or desirable makes me think that he would have been much more suited to be an event god like Dionysus and such.
@kakussubrado8966Ай бұрын
Which god are you referring to?
@awesomesauce2291Ай бұрын
@@kakussubrado8966heph i assume?
@kakussubrado8966Ай бұрын
@@awesomesauce2291 Ohh! That's surprising, cause some Hades players seem to say otherwise regarding Heph. That's why I didn't get Heph from this comment. Thanks for confirming!
@awesomesauce2291Ай бұрын
@@kakussubrado8966 personally i like heph, but they were talking about him being lackluster on his own in this video, so i assume that’s who they mean
@kakussubrado8966Ай бұрын
@@awesomesauce2291 Oh now that makes sense! That's so true, Heph can't stand on his own (pun not intended) all alone per run so I think that's great creative choice from the devs. Thus pushing the player to opt for a 3-Gods roster per run.
@MDoorpsyАй бұрын
For infusions, it could be interesting to give the four gods with 2elements an extra infusion that matches their other element. Maybe a water infusion for Aphro, that boosts gold gain for each water boon you have. Earth for Demeter, maybe one that gives your omega moves a boost for each earth you have. Apollo, air, you move faster for each air you have. Heph, fire, damage dealt to you is also dealt to the enemy that dealt it while you have at least 5 fire. Could also give all the gods an aether infusion.
@dodang_9147Ай бұрын
Hot flash is strong with freeze burner because it stores all your burn damage that your losing over the time you take to build burn. something that is weird is that Raki and critical chance does apparently work with burn. burn daggers are used because daggers #1 problem is clear. the boon in which you apply burn where enemies explode fixes a lot of daggers mob clear issues.
@awesomesauce2291Ай бұрын
21:37 anyone else not know this existed!???? i’ve been running around the fields like an idiot😂
@thecarrotguy930Ай бұрын
It's one of the incantations iirc
@secretary833Ай бұрын
10:30 In the code files for Dio’s boons they do have some comments for unused boons, so maybe something like that?
@msadventurecomedyАй бұрын
More boon ideas: - all gods get boons that affect the hex - infusion duos - alternative resource hex, e.g. imagine Ares gave you a hex that was charged by taking or dealing damage rather than spending magic - defeated bosses give you a boon in addition to their resource - boons that empower your familiar, e.g. your familiar inflicts the god specific curse on foes
@MrEdwardpullmanАй бұрын
I think highly flammable was the better boon choice because it increases the damage, then the dem duo activates a higher number. Faster scroge means less damage for the Demeter duo
@zombotany3443Ай бұрын
Freezer burn + bruning desire = scorch increases by 200%, but won't go away because of burning desire and won't decrease, either. I did a run with that and it was absurd. In my opinion, it's probably easier to use aspect of medea, aspect of moros, or possibly even aspect of momus since they all give a great incentive to use both the special and attack, but you wouldn't really be able to bulid scorch.
@johnsoberАй бұрын
Trio boons could work if the gods have to be thematically similar in one way or another. Eg, if hades had regularly obtainable boons, a trio boon between hades, zeus, and poseidon would make sense. We could do hestia, hera, and demeter (daughters of chronos), maybe zeus, poseidon, and demeter (weather/natural world), apollo, hestia, and hephestus (fire/heat?), hera, aphrodite, and hestia (something to do with love and the home idunno). Stuff like that.
@masonskiekonto590Ай бұрын
There are n(n-1)(n-2)/6 ways to get a unique trio, that's 56 boons to design that complement 3 gods' identities, trios are not happening
@johnsoberАй бұрын
@@masonskiekonto590 except I am not saying there should be all unique combinations of trios.
@bassbeardifulАй бұрын
Raw dog a cobb is hilarious
@SaySheloАй бұрын
Just saying Hestia is Bestia
@aviadszanton7185Ай бұрын
IMO The best build for blades is Hestya on atk, posidon, on spc, demeter on cst, both duo and hammers for dash
@RubberGamesHDАй бұрын
Maybe they could just do trio boons for gods inherently related in myth
@Lauren-cv6kyАй бұрын
Use tin foil for the asparagus!
@jupiterofthemonkeyii5569Ай бұрын
Scorch was always good, even before the buff.
@ElfeureАй бұрын
I've played a lot of Hades II already (close to 150 hours) and I think I've never seen a room like this at 28:00 am I the only one that saw that or is it a normal thing and I just have dementia ?
@HealRDАй бұрын
The Olympic Update introduces new rooms in Tartarus.
@aaronchislett7769Ай бұрын
Is there a way to get pool of purging in all biomes or is it a mod? Currently only have them in the final biome
@HealRDАй бұрын
Purge three boons and complete the run, there'll be an incantation for it.
@wistitipnf404Ай бұрын
Now pair Freezer Burn with Room Temperature and watch how you can break Freezer Burn limits with Heph blasts 👀 I got 94K twice on Freezer Burn alone with this build
@snowbeast074Ай бұрын
I got the incantation that added the purge boon fountain to the underworld, but for some reason it’s only for before house of hades. Why do you have it for every level?
@aurum.iАй бұрын
You need to purge 3 boons at tartarus then add the new incantation for it to appear at every biome.
@justarandomdoodАй бұрын
aurum.i is correct but I want to say this a second time to make sure no one misunderstands I believe it's 3 boons total, so you can either do 1 boon on 3 different runs or 3 boons all at once in a single run or 2+1/1+2, you don't have to wait for 3 runs if you don't want to though
@benjaminchan597Ай бұрын
Freezer burn actually ruins a scorch build. Other than the initial burst of damage, it actually impedes further application of scorch.
@salchipapa5843Ай бұрын
What is a trio boon?
@Andrew-be6ehАй бұрын
Wait, is she fixed in the Rift too?
@karlrassmann4604Ай бұрын
What if boon rarity was tied to the number of infusion points? For example, a common boon gives one point, rare gives 2, epic gives 3. This would add more nuance to what boons you want to pick and when
@iacobuseurus509Ай бұрын
The only trio boon I want is a Hephaestus/Aphrodite/Ares duo boon called like Love Triangle. This is the only time Ares shows up and he has insane art but only 1 voice line and he’s never heard from again
@mateo_marvel1346Ай бұрын
I also want a Hera-Hestia-Demeter trio boon
@HealRDАй бұрын
Wasn't Love Triangle boon a thing in H1 EA?
@wigglebot765Ай бұрын
why not just throw out an omega at the beginning of each chamber to trigger huntress
@ByrneBabyАй бұрын
Hot Flash is fun with Freezer Burn specifically. I like it with daggers, and run arctic ring to proc Freezer Burn whenever I want, and then with Glamour Gain and Island Getaway, it gets reeeeeaaaaally silly. In fact, It's almost too good, and you can't fully optimize the Freezer Burn damage on most of the bosses because you just end phases immediately lol
@RubberGamesHDАй бұрын
Heph is my favorite Greek god and I think the concept is perfect, however, it is sadly bad as a core god in terms of offense
@AnurajChakrabortyАй бұрын
hehehe first
@tokilladaemonАй бұрын
i would say that the backstab actually helps scorch more than if you were using aphro or whatever, since the +150% only applies to the blades' base power rather than calculating with the % boon included. so proportionally, it is making a bigger difference to the attack damage compared to an attack boon that already gives you 80% or whatever. if you see what i mean