Upgrade Button Brilliance: Upgrading Legends Pinball with iL PSL & Rollie Leaf Switch!

[@lindahaworth4896]

Thanks for this video. It was perfect. Helped us change our flipper switches after the right one quit working.

[@JohnPauls]

Thank you, I appreciate the feedback.

[@HotGhettoMusic]

Nice. Just ordered a set to put on when I do the solenoid install. Thanks for the videos man!

[@JohnPauls]

You’re most welcome Levon! Soo much better, finally getting some gameplay in and I’m loving it. Enjoy and please report back your thoughts.

[@DidYouReadEULA]

Thank you!! Was just informed my ALP VIBS and upgraded control board with joystick and trackball should be here within two weeks...now I get to buy these too. Thanks again for the guide!

[@JohnPauls]

You’re most welcome

[@boomerbob]

Just put these in a Ms. Pacman 40th. I still suck but it's way quieter and feels better. Just got an ALP today - still in the box. May have to order some for it.

[@JohnPauls]

Hahaha! They definitely do, Rollie Leaf Switches are getting harder to find, get them while you can. My wife just jumped on the ALP for the first time in months tonight and said “I told you those (ALP) buttons sucked” 😂 Then this comment… the world works in mysterious ways. Thank you for watching Bob, enjoy your ALP and try to stay away from AtGames firmware updates until you hear from the community if it’s safe to update. They tend to break more than they fix lately.

[@barrypincus7417]

Dang ..sold out again no leaf switches ..hoping they get more

[@JohnPauls]

I hope so too, seems they come in waves.

[@medicmark9683]

Where can I find one in Canada

[@JohnPauls]

Unfortunately, they’ve been discontinued. Closest comparable www.ultimarc.com/arcade/buttons/goldleaf-pushbuttons/

[@cMARVEL360]

I was lucky enough to buy two of these to Experiment with on a Arcade 1up Gen 1 Galaga Cab, and Last Year's Class of 81. Experiment was an absolute Success but they became discontinued 😩 Had they still been in rotation I would be recommending these Switches for Classic 80s gamers to use on their cabs and Pinball machines because the feel is absolutely Retro, Responsive, and an absolute great deal of fun. It really makes the games feel Perfect!

[@JohnPauls]

Couldn’t have said it better myself. Would love to order more. Thank you for watching.

[@emiltv]

Great video would they work with the legends micro pinball they seem to be same size my left flipper lagged tried to fix it and broke !! Them little red cheaply buttons

[@JohnPauls]

Thank you!!! These would work but discontinued. Google Goldleaf Switches by Ultimarc, next best replacement and used by many.

[@coreyalexander9059]

Got my leaf switches in the mail yesterday. Your video has been the most reassuring to know i can do this without messing the wires up. Just to confirm...disconnecting the wires from the stock buttons is as simple as pressing on the small tab to disconnect (should be no need for pliers or other tools for disconnecting)?

[@JohnPauls]

Awesome and thank you!!!! They’re crimped on pretty tight. You’ll need a set of needle nose pliers and possibly a small flat head screwdriver to pry it off the old buttons. Or they may just slide off, ATG quality control varies tremendously. Reach out should you have any questions. I’m here.

[@JohnPauls]

They’re traditional spade connectors but are usually crimped a bit tighter to prevent losing connection at a button that experiences a lot of vibration / shock.

[@coreyalexander9059]

@JohnPauls Sounds good. I can see needle nose pliers being useful in the event I were to widen the connectors too much when getting them to fit on the leaf switch connectors...to ensure a tight fit...

[@JohnPauls]

@coreyalexander9059 Absolutely Corey, make sure you have solid connections and tug on them a bit to ensure they won’t fall off before finalizing the install. Pinball machines, even digital, experience a significant amount of vibration, even more so with upgraded haptics.

[@coreyalexander9059]

@@JohnPauls Will do. Thank you again for your insight! I'll reach out if I run into any issues...

[@Freethinker1967]

I'm curious if there would be clearance to also swap out the magnesite buttons

[@JohnPauls]

You may be able to but it’s crammed on the right side due to the plunger box. You can however fit the gold leaf buttons.

[@belabillion2688]

I ordered a solenoid set too because of your other video! For this one, did you use the short stem or long stem buttons?

[@JohnPauls]

You’re going to love the solenoids! Long stem. paradisearcadeshop.com/products/il-psl-l-concave-button-translucent-red Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and enjoy the mods.

[@sherryarmstrong9752]

Will this also work as the start button for my legends micro mini?

[@JohnPauls]

Sorry, not positive on how much depth is available to install on the micro.

[@TheBeerChasers]

Great vid as always! Question for you! I picked up some Ultimarc "Gold leaf" switches with plans to put them in my ATL. They came with just the button (no "rollie" piece that connects). Do we need a rollie second piece for this type of button as well, or is just the button good with these?

[@JohnPauls]

Thank you Sir, I do not believe you need that as it’s built internal into the switch. You’ll enjoy those. Report back once installed. 🍻

[@TheBeerChasers]

@@JohnPauls - ok, excellent! Thanks for the quick response and will do! /m\

[@JohnPauls]

You’re most welcome!

[@TheBeerChasers]

@@JohnPauls Lag has improved but not perfect. Recently bought some new equip from Cleveland Soft for the virtual plunger which comes with some inputs also so hoping to "direct" wire the buttons to that board to hopefully improve the lag once and for all. Plus a bunch of other stuff (likely going to put a small vid detailing my adventure). Thanks as always for the content!

[@JohnPauls]

@TheBeerChasers appreciate the feedback and that sounds awesome. Please keep us posted!

[@VR-Emcee]

The left flipper button doesn't always work or is jittery on my new atgames pinball machine. Before I replace the button all together I would like to attempt to just re seat it. How easy is it to pull off the wire from the button to re seat it? I am afraid I'm going to break it lol

[@JohnPauls]

It’s crimped on pretty good to the spade on the flipper button. It’s removable just may require a pick and pliers. Easier to replace if you’re going into the system, get some Gold Leaf buttons.

[@VR-Emcee]

@@JohnPauls Sounds good. Thanks man.

[@JohnPauls]

Very welcome!

[@adam12413]

Hey John Paul, when you widen the connector spades with a screwdriver, how easy would it be to mess up the connection? I want to replace my buttons but I'm nervous it will end up screwing the connection up

[@JohnPauls]

It would take some effort to screw things up, even then you’d be able to still splice things if need be. You won’t, take your time, it’s a simple install. Keep us posted Adam and thank you.

[@adam12413]

​@John Paul’s gARageCADE thank you! Waiting for my solenoids to come in and then installing those and swapping the buttons!

[@RyOpenEye]

Hi just wondering why you didn’t upgrade the nudge button too or have you done this after? Not sure if need the switch but the button would be better swapped out for another ?

[@JohnPauls]

It can be done, just not with these as their too long.

[@JohnPauls]

Also, unfortunately these have been discontinued. Search for Goldleaf push buttons. Best replacement available now that are similar to these.

[@OriginalPunkRockDave]

How do you remove the spade connector to begin with? Mine didn't want to just pull off so I kind of didn't force the issue

[@JohnPauls]

Used a pick. They’re crimped on really tight. You can also splice before the spade to make your life easier. Just make sure they’re still secured after tugging on them.

[@OriginalPunkRockDave]

@@JohnPauls I was having some issues with my right upper button (flipper I reverse them) and I wanted to reseat the wires on the switch. Just pushed them in and it seemed maybe better. I’d replace them maybe with the leaf switches but they are not easy to come by now.

[@JohnPauls]

They certainly are. Been keeping my eye out but they’ve only restocked once in the past 6 months.

[@Heysahs007]

Got any extra leaf switches you want to sell? I need 2 for ALP.

[@JohnPauls]

Sorry none at this time.

[@mikeing36]

Assuming this should be a similar install on the micro ATGames legends pinball

[@JohnPauls]

Hey sorry I missed this. Yes, as long as there’s room internally and it doesn’t use smaller buttons. You’re good to go. Thank you for watching!

[@adownbeatexegete1549]

Anywhere else to buy the Rollie Leaf Switches?

[@JohnPauls]

Paradise Arcade Shop just restocked them this week. Enter your email to be notified on their site.

[@adownbeatexegete1549]

@@JohnPauls Thanks, John!

[@JohnPauls]

You’re most welcome!

[@playingmax]

hi, do u have any other website to order from as paradise is closed at the time.

[@JohnPauls]

Sorry I do not. I’ll keep an eye out and reply if I see another site selling them.

[@playingmax]

@@JohnPauls also are the buttons the short or long stem body? I installed regular buttons n now the arcade control panel doesn't fit.

[@JohnPauls]

Yes you need the shorter versions, especially if you’re replacing the side nudge buttons as well.

[@Outrunner85]

These leaf switches have been sold out for months and may not come back. Did you have these on hand already or did they get restocked recently?

[@JohnPauls]

Bought them right before the video, restocked.

[@Outrunner85]

@@JohnPauls interesting, ill have to keep an eye out, thanks.

[@JohnPauls]

You’re most welcome.

[@adownbeatexegete1549]

I don't think they're coming back.

[@JohnPauls]

They did briefly last month. Got the email.

[@adownbeatexegete1549]

​@@JohnPauls Really? I don't even see the notification in my spam folder and I signed up for it more than once. My mom passed away at the end of April, so I probably wasn't looking. Could you do me a favor and just respond to this comment when you're made aware of the next time they're in, John? I don't want to keep bothering them nor you over it.

[@JohnPauls]

I’m soo sorry about your mom, condolences to you and your family. Absolutely, I’ll reply to this message when I see them available again.

[@adownbeatexegete1549]

@@JohnPauls Thanks, man!

[@JohnPauls]

You’re welcome.

[@RickDuggan]

At kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6i3kIloh5pjgaM you say "Whatever minimal lag there was is practically nonexistent"...are you talking about OTG lag? I don't see how the button can influence OTG lag.

[@JohnPauls]

It obviously can’t, nothing you could do about the ALP’s native lag. Thought that was obvious however those crap buttons they supply most definitely have mechanical lag - hence the comment. Thanks for watching.

[@DidYouReadEULA]

BTW, nothing like anus art, right?!! 😁 Huge Bob's Burgers and H. Jon Benjamin fan!

[@JohnPauls]

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