Upgrading The Fork On Your Mountain Bike | What You Need To Know!

[@WorldwideCyclery]

We have a new & better version of this topic here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5y2fJSamrh-isU What forks do you run?

[@alfonso831]

Rockshox lyrik 170mm travel. Big fan of Rockshox simplicity. Fox is nice but way too complicated, just wanna ride my bike not dial suspension.

[@robocopp7009]

Rock shox revelation rc3 150mm in my stumpjumper evo

[@bobdixon3048]

Worldwide Cyclery lyrik rc3

[@JamesNoBrakes]

Lyrik with Avalanche Cartridge, because OEM damping is so bad.

[@jasonisaac1]

Rockshox Pike solo air 150mm, lengthened from 130mm on my Santa Cruz 5010. Waiting for a Vorsprung Luftkappe to be delivered soon to install in the fork.

[@SorinVBogdan]

Finally someone does a video on this topic for all the kids who buy an xc hardtail and wanna put a dual crown 200mm on it

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Haha yeah not the best idea to do that but it is hilarious when kids do that!

[@miguelaguilar7560]

SEND IT

[@hwhwhwbbbtbththhttht6334]

Can i put some 160 mm in my xc hardtail

[@miguelaguilar7560]

Hwhwhwbb Btbththhttht you can but should you no ir will put too much stress on your headtube only put 20mm more than what it originally came with so if it’s originally can with 100mm fork put a 120mm max

[@SorinVBogdan]

I think it's because they don't understand how bike geometry affects the way the bike feels and rides on the trails - and therefore how changing that intended geometry will not only not help, but will probably make the bike ride like trash. There are a lot of hardtail frames designed to have 160mm+ of travel in the front, but the angle of the headtube is much slacker than on the xc frames (which is normally 69-70 degrees).

[@adamenglander]

Forks are great, one of the most versatile tools in my kitchen

[@noizz]

How much travel do they have? And what about the offset?

[@adamenglander]

Personally I prefer longer travel forks, keeps proper distance between myself and the food. Offset of 69mm is ideal.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

I've got a 200mm travel fork with spin feature so I can eat pasta very fast. Have to keep the stanchions lubed with olive oil.

[@adamenglander]

Always gota keep it lubed to prevent stiction and internal failure.

[@ImproFlight]

Actually, I prefer some shorter travel forks so I have more control when i’m moving the food in high speeds

[@isaacalvarado2568]

I’m going to put a Fox 40 on my bmx bike

[@WillG_MTB]

nice

[@WillG_MTB]

@@anishg777 reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@kony45583]

Sam pilgrim be like

[@oanatudor1339]

@@kony45583 true

[@kyewildemann4915]

How about a tutorial on how to pick the perfect screen saver😂

[@alexunlv]

"Did I miss anything." One thing - I watched this video before I bought my fork. Everything was on point of course. Unfortunately, the one thing missed is the change/upgrade in fork from a Rockshox to a Fox Fork and the lack of compatibility with the end hub caps. Of course, when I came upon this problem, it was your channel that immediately identified the problem and provided the solution. *The problem:* Rock Shox end hub cap, named "torque" end hub caps are 31mm in diameter. Fox Fork end hub caps, named "standard caps" are 21mm in diameter. *Solution:* Find a standard hub cap to fit my hub (my hub is a SRAM MTH 716, 15x110, Torque Cap, 32h). You guys are awesome and thank you for dropping all this knowledge. Alternate name for this channel? Worldwide Cyclery School Bus - taking n00bs to school.

[@sebastiananderson9541]

How about the picture on the monitor in the background

[@ferelias3900]

I was wondering the same... 🤔😂

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Haha just to keep it funny and interesting for the viewers :)

[@01FozzyS]

Fabio! lol

[@adrianday7496]

“Actor/model” not the other way around

[@donchristie420]

As long as a manufacturer doesn't name their new line of weird forks- SPORKS, I'm good!!!

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Sporks! Mtb suspension company. Going to buy that domain name now haha.

[@---GOD---]

LOL that Seinfeld intro is the best

[@augustusczar7375]

I have a 2001 kona stinky deluxe. Upgraded front and rear shock with fox shocks and rockshocks. Upgraded shifter kit, bars, breaks, hole drilled in swing arm to bring rear tire down an inch or 2, to bring the pedals off the ground. Upgraded 26" tires and rims. And yes, it shreds 🤙

[@kevinvee680]

150mm Reba RL Boost on a Specialized stumpy is just great for my use on my local trails and even on downhill parks. Fabio screen saver FTW tho

[@michael186]

Currently running a Fox 34 Performance Series on my Transition Smuggler and love it! This video definitely clears some things up when figuring out exactly which fork you will need - great job!

[@TrailFeatures]

But that one random dude on Reddit said he replaced his 100mm fork with a 160mm and it totally worked!

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Hahahaha

[@bikerelated743]

It *can* work if you simultaneously replace a 29" wheel with a 24" one. But the bike will look really weird.

[@Trailz6of7]

24 rear tire with a 29 front! A chopper

[@nikounourbakhsh8433]

I don’t know if that’s what he best idea a 24 front wheel...

[@andyham6094]

Fox really kills it with their branding and designs. The fox suspensions on my 4runner look absolutely amazing in black and red and stand out over other similar companies. The fox bike suspensions look just as good with that orange with the gold color and design. Looks beautiful

[@ruelapas6240]

My manitou matchete is already thru axle. I love it, works amazing at low price.

[@gucass]

holy shit that was an aggressive fork throw at the beginning lmao

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Alex G seriously! When I had the idea and asked Reamonn to throw the forks at me I was NOT thinking he would throw them so hard haha. Anything for KZbin though! By the way, all those plastics forks we "Borrowed" from Chipotle haha!

[@danielbrowning6980]

they were spoons

[@DaveLopez575]

Thanks to your videos, I am getting my masters in mountain biking, with honors.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Happy to help! Let us know if you have any questions :)

[@beens2640]

My bike is from 1996 and it’s still fine with hydraulic brakes and a 1.1/8 steerer tube with a tapered headset adapter on it and the bike still feels great with 80% of original deore xtr parts still on it.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Awesome! If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[@silaschambers7413]

For people who normally skip the intro this one is actually good

[@nismomike3182]

Some manufacturers are also offering damper upgrades. Fox for example sells the 36 Grip2 damper as a stand alone option to upgrade from Grip, Fit4, or RC2. You can send your fork in to Fox and have it done, or I'm sure many shops can perform the service as well. Also, changing the travel can be achieved very affordably by replacing the shaft in the airspring on most forks.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

You are absolutely right! This video was more about when you replace the entire fork. But you are correct, there are tons of upgrades you can do to your existing fork by damper upgrade kits to air shafts etc.

[@jackbeames7643]

How much is the grip 2 upgrade

[@finnanders9730]

Just went from an old Fox Vanilla 125mm to a Rockshox Totem 180mm. It's gonna be a lot nicer because the bike was designed for 180mm forks :)

[@jpollock1548]

Can you guys do a “how to choose the correct headset” next? Quality video as always!!! Your guys customer service is for real. I just got a answer on correct Rear axle size just yesterday from you guys!! Lol. Keep up the awesome content. I will always keep buying, but do also enjoy the videos!

[@WorldwideCyclery]

JPO007 thanks for the headset video suggestion. We'll definitely do that. I'm just afraid it'll be so boring and 20 minutes long haha. Thank you the kind words!

[@scspur5262]

I remember seeing my first suspension fork in like 91 or 92. Saw it at my at my LBS. Went straight home and pawned my Stratocaster guitar. It was a Rockshox Qaudra. Put it on my GT tequesta hardtail. With like 1" of travel from elastomer bumpstops. A real pos in hindsight, but I was the bomb at the time.

[@Pokemiki303]

I upgraded my trek Wahoo with a rockshox recon silve i went from 80mm coil to 100mm air fork and i love it

[@WorldwideCyclery]

miguel padilla nice! Awesome to upgrade little things like that and they make your ride that much better :)

[@jonneilsmyth9107]

can i fit rockshox on a shitty apollo phaze unisex 26in wheel 17in frame? i here there pritty good onlyreason i keep it was the heavy alloy frames strong for a ebike conversion i done but the front end will get me killed

[@spudvader]

Went from 150mm Fox 32 to 160mm RS Yari on a Scott Genius 740 2016. What a differnce, Yari's feel solid and confidence inspiring. Also the extra 10mm slackened the geometery a bit

[@DrBunnee]

Recently i bought some new forks for my trek Roscoe 8 2019, I got some 150mm revelation's 27.5" don't go haywire at me for buying suspension 3cm bigger than the stock travel, the trek comes with a 29" Judy fork so you can run like up to a 3.2 or something, i decided to get a 27.5 fork and get much more travel, so axle to crown for the Judy's are 530mm whereas the the revelations are 542mm, so only a 1.2cm difference, but the forks usually sit at 140 because they are second hand and a bit dodgy. I personally think it has to have been the best upgrade for the bike. it's just a completely different animal, even the offset of 46mm vs 51 is a huge difference with caster steer. i am very happy for the way it has turned out. the total cost of the bike and the fork is $2000AU (grips tubeless, and the fork) the next upgrade will probably be the rear hub and brakes. then it'll be an awesome aggressive hardtail

[@TheRadar2819]

I upgraded to a Manitou Tower Pro with a 15mm through axle with 100mm of travel. 29er all day baby

[@bobcat5496]

I thank jeff. He is our metaphorical bus driver

[@WorldwideCyclery]

bob cat hahaha thanks man.

[@seanhalperin6469]

I decided to go with the budget-friendly option and picked up plastic fork from my school cafeteria, works great 10/10

[@garrettsmith8286]

"I came for the Forks. I stayed for the Fabio screen saver!" hahaha Real question.... which forks feel like butter?

[@WorldwideCyclery]

The only forks that feel like butter are either brand new or made of butter. :) If you are looking for an upgrade shoot us an email and we can help you find what you are looking for!

[@foblife8904]

Are you telling me that back in 2001. I weld 1 1/8 cup on top of my 1’ head tube and run 1 1/8 fork was wrong? Hehe

[@99jerseyboy]

Insightful video. 👍 And I'm still LMAO over that clip from The Office! "NO, GOD! NO GOD, PLEASE NO! NOOOOOOO!!!" 😂 😂😂😂😂

[@taineasy]

Original Judy 2 (not the 2000's version) with the Lars upgrade. Lighter than modern forks, super tough and firm.

[@hpaa3869]

I remember when the 1.5 standard started many many years ago.

[@wadepratt9654]

Iv upgraded from 100mm xcm coil fork to 120mm raidon air fork both sr suntour boost and it raised the bb almost half inch but decreased the head angle by a whole degree so now it feels more trail friendly🤘

[@175thStreet]

Very informative! Nice work boys.

[@roberttate4816]

Good video 👍 I upgraded my 2016 stumpjumper xxl 29er 140mm non-boost 46’ offset 32mm revelation fork myself, I got a non-boost 150mm Yari 51’offset which is 35mm fork diameter, it’s a bit heavier but feels more stable & makes me feel more confident on rougher terrain, I don’t really notice the weight difference or difference in the offset from 46’ to 51’ it has made the wheelbase longer the head angle slacker due to the extra 10mm travel & different offset, a good upgrade for me being a heavy lad 240 pounds, also got some Spank Oozy 395+ wheels to go with my WT Minions, love the rock gardens more now 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿😅

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Nice! Thanks for the story and details. Cool to hear everyone upgrade experience and what they noticed out of it. Cheers!

[@andonizagouris3200]

Thanks for explaining all the options and specifications needed when trying to select a suspsension fork. Unfortunately, your website doesn't allow you to filter by wheel size, axle type, steer tube type, travel length etc. It would make the selection process much easier...

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Yeah we do need help with some filters on our website, you are right! But please reach out to our customer support and we would be happy to help you get the exact right fork that fits your bike. Email or call us anytime, bike needs standing by ready to help 😎

[@dcsupercars4906]

so far the best bike channel!!

[@Lil2Ghost]

Got a Norco Sasquatch from 2004, still going strong

[@scottiemanners]

Running the stock X-Fusion Metric R 180mm tapered enduro fork up front. Love that thing. Got the sag dialed in perfect for my weight and it soaks everything up just like my yamaha dirtbike!

[@ABH313]

3:46...dying lol but yeah that's probably the way to go lol great video as usual thanks again for the laugh

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Haha thanks for the kind words :) glad we could make you laugh while talking about mountain bike parts.

[@sntpluha]

i put a 300mm dual crown monster fork on my bmx

[@MarksTournaments]

You ride facing the sky

[@norcoatomik1]

You need a karpiel Apocalypse to fit that fork properly

[@backasswards5250]

Great video, I am needing to upgrade my Suntour XTC forks that came on my mtb. After painstakingly upgrading other parts on it, I have come to realize (the hard way) how difficult it can be without proper knowledge.

[@ZDriver1996]

at 3:47 .... that's exactly how I felt... Jekyll 1000 SL owner here.

[@cgr88m]

I have a 2019 rockhopper 29er and i ordered a 2016 fox float 32 110mm 29er fork

[@runningoverland7656]

Extremely helpful/informational video! Really did a great job!

[@BuddhaRice]

Thanks! I have a 2010 Cannondale F7 with 26 wheels and looking for a new fork, you answered all my questions!

[@seantierson2633]

how about a video on what to look for when upgrading dampers (for instance: from grip 2 in a fox 36 to the one with high and low speed com adjust)?

[@tylern1552]

First comment! Never had this feeling before and it feels great! Awesome video boys!

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Wow Tyler. Awake early reading emails and looking at KZbin huh? Good man. Good man.

[@flemming_j_]

Priceless, “160mm travel rotor” 😂😂😂😂

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Haha I sure screwed that one up!

[@norcoatomik1]

Karpiel Apocalypse .... thats what ya need if your anything like me but good luck getting your hands on one

[@schlooonginator1227]

How about upgrading the current fork you already have with improved dampers, extending air travel and token kits. I did all of this to my bone stock Reba RL and it made a big improvement plus saved me dough from buying a whole new fork. There must be some folks who also take this route.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

schlooonginator you are totally right! Upgrading your Fork internals is a great route to go. Things like dampers, air springs etc. I should've mentioned that in this video. This was more about upgrade/replace and what to watch for.

[@Gkeagle9]

Entry was epic

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

I just bought a Lyrik RC2 2019 for my Enduro

[@theodounis]

Very informative video Jeff I’m going to upgrade my current fork from a rockshox pike RC 150mm travel 29er to a fox 36 factory 29er

[@sak1320]

Theo Dounis did you change it to 160? How did it turns out? Im planing on fox 34 150mm or fox 36 160mm..

[@sypergaming8542]

Nice video man! Lot of information specially for newbeez like me.

[@lestergarabito608]

Hey Jeff, just want to say I absolutely love your channel ! Very well put together and informative. Would like to know if you will ever consider making a video about different affordable carbon wheelsets that are a good bang for your buck, I think that would be awesome to see what’s out there as far Carbon wheels that won’t break the bank. Thanks Jeff and greetings from south Florida! 👍

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Thank you for the kind words! It would be fun to do a video on Carbon wheels. However, I personally don't really like Carbon wheels and don't ride them myself. At this point, I just don't think the reliability is there and they are so darn expensive. To me it just doesn't make sense so I don't use them and therefore don't feel confident talking about all the different kinds. My aluminum rims are doing just dandy for now :)

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Awesome Lester, thanks a bunch and glad you're enjoying the channel! We're always interested to hear what people would like to see and it's definitely on the docket.

[@lestergarabito608]

Lol you’re 100% right , they’re overrated!

[@s2korpionic]

That screen saver on the left though...

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Kalsonic haha a little Fabio makes anyone laugh.

[@theguyttissybob2362]

I never have a problem with the old a 2005 straight Forks

[@antred11]

There's so much cool, shiny, expensive bike equipment these days, it's easy to spend more time obsessing over that stuff than riding the damned bike. 😍

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Haha totally true!

[@relentlessmoutz]

excelllent video! Greatly appreciate the info and education on forks and what i need.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Happy to help!

[@Sphoxros]

Just built a new bike with a 2018 Pike RCT3 :D great fork so far :P.

[@sugarnads]

Ive got an olllld KHS FXT trail, Grinder fork standard. Its stuuuuffed (old, been in the sun too long the stainless staunchions are not so stainless any more). Been toying with the idea of renovating it somewhat. Atleast making it rideable again anyway... Been pondering this question here.

[@magellan1818]

Love all of your videos!

[@mikebussart2575]

Damn good looking bike at the 5:50 mark.

[@josemarihernan9551]

Lol I liked the intro wahaha 😂😂

[@MrNat916777]

7:27 A 160mil travel rotor?? Heck yeah Jeff!

[@alistairharris7891]

What’s with the screensaver

[@benmmm7359]

Fabio! “The most bewwwwtifol man in the world” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@1917VIL]

Thank you for this video! Love the channel!

[@desmondmoonbear4143]

I have a Enduro converted into a trail bike what should I run?

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Hmm well what is the dirt like where you ride?

[@desmondmoonbear4143]

@@WorldwideCyclery I live in Washington so it's good and perfect almost all year long AND lots of lome

[@WorldwideCyclery]

DHF/DHR or DHF/Aggressor combo would be perfect!

[@crosisofborg5524]

I’m still running my 25 year old Rock Shox Indy C shocks.

[@Antweak83]

Comedic introw yes mang!

[@void_presence]

I ordered a new bike; shop that's assembling it for me will have it ready tomorrow (hopefully); since then I've discovered the fork is kinda crap. I'm not too concerned because I don't plan on doing any trails ---at least yet, but I figure I'll probably be upgrading it at some point. Helpful vid as the bike I got has a tapered head and I thought that was going to be an issue :)

[@Jpryor991]

😂 love the intro

[@aviationandstuff5840]

I still run the stock fork on my Trek Marlin 5 I’ve got about 100 plus miles on it and I love it when I get the money I might upgrade to a fox fork oh and I have 75mm’s of travel.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Nice! A new fork always feels amazing and if you have a coil sprung fork now you will save a ton of weight switching to an air spring. Thanks for watching!

[@bertvaldez9402]

I run the Fabio Forks... LOL... love the easter egg

[@WorldwideCyclery]

😅👍

[@stoenchu122]

Michael Scott a regional manager, husband and THE WORLD BEST BOSS

[@ROOrtiz-ov8xf]

Greate video one of the best I see about forks and wat would and would not fit

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@kamkhamtanh]

I made a meme with that office clip. It said, "When you see a guy talking to a girl you like." Something like that haha. It was a long time ago when I made it.

[@thatguythatdoesstuff7448]

That fork(s) toss in the beginning had some kinda intent behind it. The follow through on that throw ... geez.

[@tj29er]

lol fabio on the moniter

[@brianshanahan3878]

LOL, Love the clip from "The Office".

[@1405karthik]

Adjustable stem. Kenda 2.1" tires 120mm suspension Alloy crank 24x34x44 For 37/27.5’’ MTB bike is this spec is crt

[@reinholdachleitner2069]

Great video and also very thorough.Worldwide Cyclery must be Fabio fans.Fabio screensaver on PC screen in the background?

[@nickzarnetske9994]

I wish your website could be sorted to view forks that will fit a certain application. Wheel size, travel and axle width are common on other websites...

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Our website does suck at this :( but the search function works very well so give that a try!

[@jake-the-neko5531]

Tbh shocks are harder to upgrade than shock imo. But that's because I've always had hardtails but only just got a full sus

[@jckdnls9292]

I put 180mm on a 100mm bike... love it.. no regrets. U adjust your skills and enjoy the benefits .

[@tanakorn111]

Nice screen saver

[@mravocadoman2999]

Do you guys have any videos about rims? Width vs depth, straight vs j spokes? Love the videos

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Mr Avocado Man we don't yet but that's a great idea thanks! And thanks for the kind words.

[@hjeffwallace]

“There’s a myriad of forks laying out in front of me right here…” Points to 3 forks. I always wondered how many a myriad is. Same as a triad.

[@PrettyGreenMonk]

Well explained.. i got the funky cannondale size 🤪

[@funridemtb8224]

Hi Jeff, I have a Rockhopper Specialized 2018 non tapered head tube. It has a SR Suntour XCM fork 100mm and I would like to do an upgrade in my fork. I have a Fox 32 step-cast tapered tube, but in the workshop where I take my bike they told me “NOT to install that fork” they want me to buy another bike, which is more expensive . . . It has a tapered frame (tapered fork - in the future I will make an upgrade to a full suspension but by the moment I will keep my bike). Because I don´t have much budget at the moment. So, do you recommend a Straight to tapered steer tube adapter? I appreciate any recommendation, thank you for your time guys !!

[@foxzmtb1253]

I was thinking of putting a better fork on my xc but I reckon just to but a fs bike or bye a more expensive hardtail I'm saving for a fs bike but I would say get better folks but then yet again the bike shop said not to but maby their just thristy for money but at the end of the day its your choice good luck.

[@SLAMTRON]

I'd like to see you do a fresh version of this video including the Fit4 vs Grip2, Trust Message, new Manitou, Pike, etc...

[@xadasf8533]

love the intro

[@gregmerner3632]

RockShox Sektor 140mm to Pike 160mm on a 2015 Kona Process 134.

[@clemj7928]

lol I have a 530 dollar Giant talon 3. It is not the best choice for the price range, but until I move out of my parent's house, I will never be allowed to do any major jumps. I live in california so I get really dusty trails so the Giant is perfect.

[@roni2671]

I have nakamura shadow 26 its peace of shit

[@jimi272]

8:23 is so hilarious😂😂😂😂😂😍😍😍😍😍🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Haha glad you liked that. Have to make fun of yourself when you mess up :)

[@Pillokun]

Pretty informative video.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Thanks for the positive feedback, we try to make things easy to understand. :)

[@bigbigpedro100]

Fabio screensaver!.. 😂

[@martincoppiaroli635]

pete bayliss 🤣