Upgrading the NES Toploader with the best video! NESRGB 4.0 install guide and demonstration

[@JD-xz1mx]

Working through it now. My first "big" mod project after taking on many smaller tasks. Really, thanks for the video. Very helpful.

[@philipboggs3372]

I did this to my A/V Famicom a few months ago. Probably one of my favorite mods since it looks so much better than stock, even the composite looks better now. On mine I didn't hook up the part for the controller combos though, I just have it wired to always use the one pallet I like.

[@LIRetroGaming]

Yeah I also don’t really use the palette switching either, but it’s a nice touch. It’s definitely one of the biggest upgrades in video quality

[@marcopannella1]

You are the man Joel! Your dedication to your craft is an inspiration.

[@LIRetroGaming]

I appreciate that!

[@ChrisTheMeat]

the top loader is also one of my favorite versions of the nes ... my other favorite version is the front loader. keep up the great work, George!

[@NintenPizza]

Minus the Jail bar effect. It's too bad, because i definitely prefer RF for nostalgia and just how much it rounds out and softens the sprites, Vs Composite on a CRT.

[@MR82ad]

My favorite is the bottom loader

[@scottlinux]

Incredible work! I had no idea the NESRGB could be installed in a top loader.

[@LIRetroGaming]

Yeah thankfully it’s compatible with all the major hardware revisions, including the Sharp twin Famicom

[@huffdm]

Love the console modding content, keep up the good work!

[@RetroSho]

Such a great video! There's something very satisfying about watching the NESRGB install process then seeing the end result. Even better on an NES toploader! Speaking of toploaders, I assume you're getting yourself ready for OpenTendo-TopLoader as well? 👀

[@LIRetroGaming]

Yes sir! I’m hoping that the pcbs arrive tomorrow. Looking forward to working on that project!

[@yeolemillinial8295]

dude it feels like your the only person consistently doing these videos atm. i need some video equipment so i can do some mods on cam lol

[@LIRetroGaming]

It’s tough and time consuming to publish this work every week, but I try my best. It’s also good because it helps others become aware of all the mods that are available for older consoles

[@dwightdixon8508]

You make it look all too easy even though it’s definitely challenging. Fantastic job with wonderful results.

[@LIRetroGaming]

Thanks! You will definitely enjoy it!

[@willft520]

All your work is definitely worth it! I appreciate you take the time to show and explain the process and decisions, I think you allow us to learn a lot from your videos.

[@LIRetroGaming]

Thanks! I’m glad that the info is helpful. That’s definitely one of the major reasons why I make these videos

[@dustyshoopman845]

Too much fast forwarding and too much work done off camera to learn the right way.

[@willft520]

@@dustyshoopman845 I don't agree with you, but you should probably start your own channel and demonstrate your own way. Perhaps people would learn better with your methods or maybe you'll learn something about ingratitude, either way looks like a better future.

[@ericaddison4715]

Thanks for the awesome video! I followed along and my mod was a success!

[@MundoNintend0]

Thank you very much brother for such an excellent installation, I have a question when you purchase the v4.0 board kit, bring the other green board and the 2 pin terminals that connect to the boards within the same kit, and the audio expansion enabled it in this installation, since the top Loader and front Loader do not bring the improved audio expansion.

[@LIRetroGaming]

I did not add the expansion audio for this specific install, but it is possible. Voultar makes an expansion audio board for the toploader that can be used with the NESRGB

[@tremaineunderwood7322]

Awesome video, I really appreciate that these are out there. While Tims board is brilliant, his instructions are terrible. I installed this on a AV famicom and tested it before getting an upscaler. The AV famicom has the existing multi-out so I tested it using the multi outs component video. I was getting a weird grey and white picture out, with the unit turned on and the picture was fine with it off. I thought something was wrong because I couldn't find anyone else with this issue online. I then emailed Tim and he said that is correct that it does that. The other thing is sound, there is no mention of sound in his instructions. I was going to leave the original composite in place. After watching more videos this morning, I realised that with me using HD Retrovison cables that I should get the composite from the NESRGB for CSync(thanks to a video, else I wouldn't have known at all). I probably need to remove my multi-out and drill the component cable and the sound holes out like people have shown for ground. Then bring the sound and composite in from the NESRGB. I haven't seen anyone doing that, but surely that makes sense?

[@LIRetroGaming]

That does make sense and you’re correct that you need composite video for those HD Retrovision cables. All that being said it would be much easier to help if you can send me some pictures. Feel free to email me and I can take a look and try to help.

[@SNKev411]

Great job George one question what gauge wire did you use for this circuit board. I hope you can reach out to me soon thank you George 🤙

[@LIRetroGaming]

Sure thing, I was using 28 gauge copper stranded wire for this one

[@SNKev411]

Nice thanks a million George you are the champ

[@ScruffyLookinRGB]

Great video as always. Installing an rgb board on an nes or famicom never gets old for me. Favorite console and mod of all time. Im curious why one would want to turn off the rgb? Do happen to know why that option is there?

[@LIRetroGaming]

Thanks, and I always enjoy checking out your latest videos! I think that the option to turn off the NESRGB is only really useful on the frontloader. For example, if someone wants to experience the original thing with the composite video jacks. On the toploader it’s not helpful because the original RF modulator is removed

[@ThatPaulAllen]

If I were to leave J1 open and not connect a switch or any controller inputs would it just use the default palette? I don’t really care about switching palettes, and the default looks great to me.

[@LIRetroGaming]

Yeah it will default to the first palette. I agree, I don’t use the palettes at all because the default is so good

[@buxtech]

Great video! Seems like a lot of work to add the reset function. Any particular advantage to doing this?

[@LIRetroGaming]

It’s mostly for convenience, so that you don’t have to get up and press the reset button. It’s completely optional

[@TastySnax12]

A friend of mine bought an AV Famicom with this mod pre-installed from eBay. No idea what the seller did, but the audio for the pulse wave channels (Pin A) is far louder than the triangle/noise/dpcm (Pin B) or the expansion audio. What do you think might be the reason for that?

[@LIRetroGaming]

I would have to see pics of the board and I might be able to help. You can contact me at my website

[@neoradjoao7701]

Hi, is it possible to activate the audio extension on this model? like on the nes with two resistors or something else? THANKS

[@LIRetroGaming]

Yes, it’s possible with voultars toploader expansion audio mod

[@rickbonano]

Do you have a suggestion for a good working cable for this mod?

[@mistertitanic]

Besides the SNES style multi-out in the back, does the Tim Worthington kit come with every bit of wire required for this mod, or did you supply some of your own as well?

[@LIRetroGaming]

No, I supplied my own wire for it. Normally I use 28 gauge copper stranded wire

[@grid5768]

Hello! I wonder, can I follow the same steps for the AV Famicom? (Other than the multiout part since it already has it)

[@LIRetroGaming]

Yes, the process is essentially the same for the AV Famicom and you can see Tim worthingtons site for a guide

[@DoingMoreKustoms]

Hello, where can I get the instructions for this kit? Good job by the way.

[@LIRetroGaming]

I should have a link in the description. Take your time with this one, it can be a difficult mod.

[@DoingMoreKustoms]

@@LIRetroGaming No Instructions in your description.

[@321mydestiny]

Do you offer installation service I normally use Matt from Dragon's Hoard Gaming but his shop is temporary close. And you do incredible work as well.

[@LIRetroGaming]

Absolutely, you can reach me at 1uprestorations.com. Matt does excellent work!

[@seanm1738]

Have you experienced any horizontal screen tearing that seems to occur on a cycle? I have a v3 board, and other than the occasional tear it looks fantastic.

[@LIRetroGaming]

That might be the dejitter function. There’s a jumper on the v3 board that you can close and it might solve that issue

[@seanm1738]

Thanks. I have an AV Famicom scaled through a Tink 2x classic, but recently switched to a GBS-C scaler. I need more testing, but if the problem still exists I'll give that jumper a try.

[@juvinious]

Dude the ninja gaiden castle in the background is amazing. Where did you get that, if you don't mind?

[@LIRetroGaming]

I got all my artwork from Canvas Quest www.etsy.com/shop/CanvasQuestArt?gbraid=0AAAAADtcfRL9L1Ae_gC7_x_1I2-Wd1QAG&Search_US_DSA_GGL_ENG_Male_Categories_New&Art-Collectibles&CjwKCAiAwomeBhBWEiwAM43YIHDQV0SRl6QG2mzsQjbAC_XbpL5VUhH3i8LeqtZdCNJqEHJgBA2rShoCMiAQAvD_BwE_k_&gbraid=0AAAAADtcfRL9L1Ae_gC7_x_1I2-Wd1QAG&gclid=CjwKCAiAwomeBhBWEiwAM43YIHDQV0SRl6QG2mzsQjbAC_XbpL5VUhH3i8LeqtZdCNJqEHJgBA2rShoCMiAQAvD_BwE

[@juvinious]

@@LIRetroGaming thank you!!!!!!!!

[@MikesArcadeMonitorRepair]

Fantastic. Nice job!

[@LIRetroGaming]

Thanks Mike, and I look forward to seeing your next video! It’s definitely helpful as I’m trying to learn more about arcade monitor repair

[@ThielTube]

Where can I find this mod in stock?

[@AW36589]

Hi Long Island, I watched your video on the gamecube hdmi mod you posted 11 months ago. Could you comment on the lag? Does it truly get zero lag on a modern tv?

[@LIRetroGaming]

Yes, it truly gets zero lag on a modern TV

[@AW36589]

@@LIRetroGaming oh cool! my friend has the eon adapter and i find it still lags on his TV. Am is the internal hdmi mod and the eon basically the same thing. They both upscale the analog output to hdmi right? Or is there something more at play here that makes the internal mod superior.....

[@JoséGuadalupeCadenaMuñoz]

La trilogía del double dragón 🐲 l💪😎🍻

[@NintenPizza]

I'm either going with the Top Loader(RGB Mod), using HD Retrovision SNES Component Cables, with a RetroTINK4K on a 55" QD-OLED (Samsung S90C), OR just settling for the AVS....Yet the latter doesn't seem to offer a CRT softness option, unless I'm mistaken. The last thing i'd want is to play NES(or any 8-16 bit title) games with razor sharp raw sprites, even with scan lines.

[@LIRetroGaming]

I don’t think the AVS has a crt softness option but honestly both should work nicely with a scaler like the rt4k

[@NintenPizza]

@@LIRetroGaming Thanks! It's too bad RetroUSB couldn't get the AVS any smaller, or just more in line with the NT Mini's design. Top Loader is still the nicest looking NES variant imo. :P

[@retronostalgiafan8635]

Does this mod support s video?

[@richardheckmann1892]

Wow very cool

[@DragunBreath]

Did something happen with your camera? Your newer videos have something weird going on with the framerate.

[@LIRetroGaming]

Yeah it was a dumb setting that was turned on my camera. Should be fixed for the next one

[@Malystryx997]

@@LIRetroGaming Awesome, and keep up the great work!

[@moontecker]

Do you have prebuild one available?

[@LIRetroGaming]

I have prebuilt frontloaders available at the moment

[@ennio5763]

Impressive work ! This reminds me, I just received a NES, and tried to put it to good use for my son, but the graphics were immediately disappointing. The graphic artifacts look equivalent to me to the ones you show on your video. I would gladly post a link to a screenshot, but it seems KZbin is allergic to any link in the comments section... :( This is not the same model of NES though, mine is a more "classical" one, I'm using composite cables already, which improved quality a lot compared to RF, but still, jaggy lines. In your experience, would you think this is the same issue ?

[@ennio5763]

wow, posting a screenshot link just worked ! _Edit_ : well, apparently, the link to screenshot was removed, again... :(

[@LIRetroGaming]

It could be a similar situation with your front loader NES. This mod also works with the front loader and provides the same results!

[@Deltax5]

Krikkz just released the rgb blaster for the nes top loader. No need to solder anything. Just attach it like a cartrage then the game and rgb connections are on the cart. Kinda like a gameshark. They should of just done that with most of these mods. There are so many ports, that can most of this stuff without doing all this. I feel like ill just destroy it.

[@LIRetroGaming]

The RGB blaster is a great option too, although for now you can only use it on a Famicom, not a North American or European NES

[@Deltax5]

There working on USA one as well.

[@Deltax5]

Solder stuff I try getting a ready one. There so many ports all around the console that can do all this. It's up to the inventor. Whatever works to get better picture and connect to the television. I got a HDMI n64. Pretty cool.

[@Deltax5]

If a part needs replacing ok. These consoles are decades old.

[@KenKay84]

Soldering to tunes of the African Mines. 👍

[@LIRetroGaming]

You can never go wrong with that game! Always fun to revisit

[@nancyhuerta1720]

Do you do it for people

[@LIRetroGaming]

Yes, you can go to my website 1uprestorations and I can help

[@allaccessentertainment4755]

Third 🥉!

[@allaccessentertainment4755]

Second 🥈!

[@allaccessentertainment4755]

First 🥇!