Upgrading to a 40 Series Torque Converter on a Manco Dingo Go-kart

[@minorpyro69]

That angled climb on the concrete was the best demonstration.

[@evilbeetlekustomscreations4965]

My exact thoughts dude try doing that with a clutch🔥🔥 that torque converter made it look like a tractor

[@zmac7467]

www.bmikarts.com/PDF/Comet_40series.pdf Attached is the installation instructions from comet industries on that 40 series unit. If you are going to run that driven clutch spring pack outboard, then the driver needs to be flipped opposite the way you have it. It will run the way you have it but unfortunately premature belt wear will follow, not to mention power loss from unnecessary drag. The way you have it the clutches engage in opposing directions. They need to engage in unison, moving the belt consistently sideways on both pulleys.

[@Nun3zDanny3]

This. Literally every photo and video of the 40 series has it mounted wrong. Someone on an amazon review shows it with the driver pulley flipped (and the driven sitting the way these guys have it). Everyone assumes that you mount it the same as a 30 but no, you dont..

[@blobcsgo7190]

Bought both the torc- a - verters off of you guys, Great stuff, Got a manco right now 13hp motor torc a verter lights.. starter.. still working on it, thanks though helped a lot!

[@FloridaMan0561]

Please get a nice work bench,watching y'all work on this thing while crawlin on the ground made MY back hurt.😂 Your body will thank you in about 10 years from now. Great work and nice video other than that boys.

[@Jop4an]

Hello Guys. Shouldn't the Driven pulley be mounted backwards so when the TC works the belt doesn't warp like it does at 16:55?

[@MegaKencam]

That's correct. This setup is wrong per Comet's instructions.

[@GetNitin69]

If they flip the driver it will accomplish alignment as well. If they flip the driven they'll need a clockwise wound driven spring.

[@atvtheory3151]

I've seen several of these go kart channels where they mount the model 40 driven clutch similar to the model 30, spring-side out. However, the model 30 is an asymmetric belt. It's designed to have the driven clutch mounted spring-side out, so it can be installed as a Torq-A-Verter single-unit replacement for the simple friction clutches. The model 40 is a symmetric belt design and the driven clutch should be mounted spring-side in. When he's running the engine and revving it up, you can see the belt twist sideways because the sheaves are moving the belt in opposite directions. The driver clutch moves the belt towards the engine as it rides higher in the sheaves. The driven clutch has the belt sliding down into the sheaves and is moving it out, away from the go kart. You may be able to get away with it in these smaller go karts, but if you move up to the big dogs, a Comet Duster or 780 clutch, you better get it right.

[@igokarts4510]

I'm about to do this build on a 460 Wildcat. Thanks for the heads up.

[@caspermaul7583]

Exactly.. 99% of the KZbin installs somehow manage to get that wrong... 🤔😂

[@thompsona10625]

I was thinking that exact same thing. The unfortunate thing is that I don’t believe the bolt on kit allows for the secondary to actually be mounted correctly unless the primary can be shimmed way out from the engine. I was trying to watch videos to find out how it actually works with a symmetrical setup like the 40 and the 780.

[@3dartstudio007]

I don't mean to sound disprespectful or rude, but... It's a go-kart. You are two grown men with an internationaly viewable web instructional... PICK IT UP and put it on the work bench. You're strong enough, I'm sure of it. You don't have to crawl around on your knees chasing a master link with a pair of pliers. Nothing bad though, as I had much much fun doing the same thing when I was younger. I fully support channels like this working on mechanical funtime projects, that's what brought me here. I like these buggies! Please do make more instructionals, I'm glad to know how one of those "torque" devices work. I appreciate it. I think I like that idea much better than the standard centrifugal one. Keep up the good work.

[@highlightzilla9581]

I have a 420cc 15 hp lifan engine what converter should I use it's a manco gocart had a 5 hp with clutch on it before

[@spacetrucker2952]

I just subscribed, I'm here because of cars and cameras. IT'LL BE FINE!!!

[@dominicburton8936]

same

[@GigaMuffin]

I have a car like the one in ur profile pic :D

[@bryanconde203]

I bought a 40 series torque converter from go power sports like 4 days ago and the diver pulley is not engaging only a little bit

[@thelastmanstanding7357]

the belt they sent was to tight

[@OneCupOfCoffee204]

Not being critical but that doesn't look like a typical Torque Converter. It looks more like a transmission. It allows the pulley to change it's dimension to change speeds. A Torque Converter is a fluid coupling, more like a clutch. It allows the motor to run while standing still until you raise the RPM's. I'm not sure when the terminology changed. Great video though, great work.

[@bctrails7206]

what reverse box would u guys use for this converter?, looking for something that will fit behind honda gx 340cc 11hp for trail bike.

[@adwdesigns9411]

No need for key to be installed on motor shaft? Note 7:55 and then note key on the floor after he picks up the bolt.

[@RC_Trailblazers]

Little late here but no the new pulley from them has a key built in.

[@kalonrick1]

A predator 420 cost $359.00 at harbor freight this torque converter kit cost $369, I wish you would sell just the back plate ,I have the 40 series torque converter already that price is a lil to high.

[@alrezgarage9046]

Rickolitus Man buy the torque converter from eBay for 70

[@gabrielalejandro2035]

Same here.. Trying to get the back plate only but Go Power Sports is too overpriced when most of the stuff you can get the same quality and cheaper on Amazon or somewhere else

[@DS-ss396]

They have backing plates all day long on Ebay for $25.00.

[@michaeljoseph4314]

@@DS-ss396 where? I'm on the hunt for one.

[@MrFinkFixes]

The low oil cut off switch must be disconnected right?

[@garyh.2177]

Great Video! Everything I needed to know was in there. Thanks

[@haroldleblanc6516]

Driver clutch on backwards these guys don’t know what they are doing

[@MechaniclifeJDM]

Will that 40 series handle 7500 RPM? Like the juggernaut does for the smaller engines?

[@Stels-fe6vp]

Картинг получился отличный,молодцы.С меня жирный лайк.Ведущий вариатор Вам надо перевернуть,идёт перекос ремня..

[@SuperGlennjr]

What size tires are that on there..? Front and back..?

[@aeo177]

I have a 420cc predator with 60 tooth sprocket and 18" tires I don't really have a problem with torque using a clutch the only time I have a problem is if I'm on a VERY steep hill and stop and then try to go

[@royleemelendez7430]

40mph is the governor removed ?

[@ikel6253]

-Be Great to have one! But a wk's Pay is Too Rich for me............ -The effortless Hill Climb was Cool!

[@williamsantiago7303]

Hey guys, great video and very informative. I'm new to the mini bike and go kart world but I just bought a coleman bt200x mini bike and I'm considering a torque converter for it. Question, what's the difference between a 30 series converter and a 40 series? One more question, what brand should I get and where do you recommend I buy it from? Again thank you guys for the video. I gave your video a gigantic thumbs up.👍Take care guys and good luck with your channel.

[@wesdavis2870]

Does driven pulley series have to match drive pulley series? I just purchased a 40 series drive but I am not sure what series my driven pulley is.

[@dacoyeowens1436]

What size are those bolts that's mounting the plate

[@haroldleblanc6516]

The driver clutch needs to be turned the other way to keep belt alignment straight during changeover

[@jmc4712]

Nothing but problems on my kart...squeaky belt popping engine...cant adjust correctly..how do i know if axle sprocket is correct size?

[@joshwebber98]

I need the backing plate for the 40 series with 3/4 inch shaft for driven/torque converter..I ordered what I thought was a kit but it didn't come with plate .can you hook me up with a link just for the plate?

[@GoPowerSports]

Sorry we only sell the complete kits. You should try returning the kit you purchase and then order the kit from us.

[@joseg8719]

What size rear sprocket are you using ?

[@lucashoxter756]

I have a staged 3 212. If I use a 1” driver clutch for. 40 series will it work with the 30 series driven clutch? I can’t find any videos on it

[@TACOMASRT5]

Planning on building a custom predator powered motorcycle for my wife... goal top speed is 80mph what engine/ torque converter setup would you reccomend?

[@seedman5875]

TACOMASRT5 Predator 670cc v-twin from harbor freight and this torque converter, you will have to upgrade the engine a bit or possibly use a transmission but it is possible

[@TheEliteAnimal]

Could you sell this without the premade jack shaft on it? I have a jackshaft on my engine plate already with the trans lined up. I need everything but the pre made jackshaft removed. Thanks for your time.

[@gonzalcala5]

Does anybody know what reverse gearbox kit goes with this torque converter?

[@Countryboy198032]

I have a 30 series on a predator 212. When I accelerate fully the cart doesn’t move at all. What is causing this?

[@jacobsebastien3910]

Did you install the belt? Lol

[@unusedaccount902]

When tensioning the drive chain how tight or loose should it be? If I slide my engine forward on my kart I have about 3/16 of ann inch movement in my chain in either direction, would that be too loose? Thanks for your help!

[@hksavage6310]

thats perfect

[@ViceVersaMusik1]

That Engine would be even more of a Beast if you guys put more work into it, and its already a Monster of an engine!! I subbed dudes. Awsome Video and Ill definitely be looking out for more Awsome videos like this one! I love custom GoKart builds man, Especially when the videos are about fast and powerful builr karts. Thanks for sharing.

[@humanitynow1565]

hello everybody , what I know is we put the torque converter with a gear box , how you put the torque without gear box , is it really make the car go faster?

[@supplykayo3049]

Abdu abdu he definetly

[@CrashZombie]

Have you removed the governor & I think that thing could probably use a brake upgrade, yeah?

[@GoPowerSports]

Yes it definitley needs better breaks. Almost need earplugs to ride it. We might be doing a video on that soon.

[@naturechanel209]

@@GoPowerSports lmao yes mine screamed like a banshee when I tried stopping it for the first time in 15 years lmao

[@mustanggregg7636]

What about the shaft's key?

[@ellsworthcarl6773]

What's better the 30 series or the 40 series torque converter with a 6.5 HP motor

[@GigaMuffin]

30 series, 40 series is for 8hp and up and won't work on a 212 :)

[@edclark6638]

30 works great.

[@jacobsebastien3910]

30.

[@virgilproductions]

How tight should the belt be?

[@mikeschuman8251]

How do i take off the driven pully to space it out

[@paulcowans6953]

Would the 40 series work on a 8.5 hp kohler on a yerf dog frame if so I would make a KZbin and TikTok vid of the install if you can hook us up my daughter is waiting on me to fix her go kart we’ve burnt through quite a few amazon centrifugal 1 inch bore space clutches.. btw loved the video big fans

[@surfrostgaming1193]

do you have to watch how much throttle you give when climbing such a steep incline

[@vtecbanger3180]

fuck no. full throttle part throttle mine loves all shades of gas

[@computerboy9766]

Yes, but you can usually feel the front wheels becoming lighter feeling, if you do pick up the front wheels, stab the rear brake (sharply press in the brake) and the front should come down.

[@vtecbanger3180]

+25 Cent I love the sound and feel of take off with the tav. the top speed is another story

[@computerboy9766]

+Vtec Banger lol. My mini bike has a predator 212 with a stage 1 upgrade kit, and it will do 45 mph. Governed.

[@computerboy9766]

+25 Cent at least that is what it did on the dyno.

[@joshrobinson856]

I have a Dingo with a 6.5hp Honda clone with a cheap china eBay torque converter. Was cheaper to replace the whole setup over repairing the Comet set up. Moves my 180lb ass around no problem. Takes hills like a champ.

[@arthurblackburn921]

Why are you using a reverse spring on the driven?!

[@kyle1775]

Because if you dont you have to mount the driven pulley inboard

[@duanewhite3184]

Witch one do I want for my mini bike Colman BT 200 X

[@benson4u215]

3/4" is the size you need so a 30series should work

[@evanmc8918]

isnt the driven pulley on backwards for a 40 series???

[@janniegrobbelaar3950]

Yes, you are right, this way as demonstrated here, will cause the belt to completely miss align as it speed up.

[@danarhenderson505]

should have gone with the predator 13hp just installed one in my mini monster truck it rips

[@deerepower337]

You guys really believe in using an impact to tighten things up!!!!

[@snakerstran9101]

Those boys need their battery taken away.

[@kidguxxi5]

go power sports - go over priced

[@alrezgarage9046]

Anthony guxxi buy it off eBay for 70

[@frankyalvarez7160]

Anthony d reliability comes at a price.

[@bigfootandbananaman4746]

Franky Alvarez not really. You can get the same stuff other places way cheaper

[@shortstop120]

They are a business that has plenty of help/advice. I'd rather pay a few bucks more and support them over some random dude on eBay that most likely won't stand behind the product.

[@BunkerBlog]

For real. Only use them for specialized parts only produced by them. Just bought a full set of tires for around $110 from Walmart. Meanwhile gopowersports wanted $94 for ONE tire. And the tires I got were the exact same ones listed on gopowersports.

[@paulcaruthers9647]

Great video guys' Can you tell me what size the rear wheels are ? I'm building a custom kart and this 40 series converter might be the way to go.

[@GigaMuffin]

16 inch

[@ikstrucking3289]

Buy 22x10-10, it's exactly what you are looking for, I got mine from AliExpress TDpro seller, I believe they sell go kart stuff on eBay too. 16 inch tires are tiny, I bought 19 inch and regretted it was hen saw it, I took the 22 and it's awesome, looks about like these on video height-vise. 19 is small, 16 is ridiculously small

[@gabrielalejandro2035]

Nice build!! I just finished bulding the same go kart but with a 420 engine. It does 43 miles on half throtle! That thing is scary fast!! Could you tell me what size rim and tires you have in the front please? Thank you.

[@nam69lol]

what tire size and gear ratio are you running

[@gregmeier8725]

These EMPLOYEES did not install 2 key components. One of the first fails was when they failed to mention, show, or install a “key”. A key is a square piece of metal that is used to help ‘mate’ the 2 round items (crank shaft and clutch) the second of many screw ups was when he put the driver clutch on the crank shaft, he did not put a specific washer with the bolt. Then he said 2 different bolt sizes in the same breath. With out the key way in, all of the torque would snap the bolt off (inside the crank shaf) ruining the motor. Please comment if I’m wrong. I’ve got a few more errors in this video as well...

[@chancewindham1718]

You're wrong

[@GetNitin69]

They have the key built-in to the driver pulley so no need for a key.

[@1MACVSOG1]

Where do I find a shim to run a 40 series on a gx200?

[@jacobsebastien3910]

Too heavy for that little engine. You will be losing torque' You need a 30 series

[@1MACVSOG1]

@@jacobsebastien3910 but I'm pushing close to 15hp out of the gx200 and a 30 can't handle it!

[@falshami]

what is the max rpm this torque converter can handle? can i throw 6000 rpm at it?

[@supplykayo3049]

Fareed Alshami for sure! but only at a 40 series

[@falshami]

I have a 40 series and it just didn't do well with it. I may need some explanation as to how to set it up

[@supplykayo3049]

Fareed Alshami here are things to look out for. align the chain. align the belt. make sure the front drive and the back drive are not colliding with anything. the 40 series should work with 22 hp engine. check out carsandcamera. the used the torque converter on a 22 hp.

[@falshami]

I think I have some work to do. I think part of the issue I have is tryongnto use it on an electric motor. I really do like the idea of the torque converter

[@supplykayo3049]

haha oh if your doing electric then all you need is a sprocket where it rotates and a key way.

[@pedroalvarado912]

good Where can I buy those clutch parts

[@thiess.378]

gopowersports.com

[@driveitbreakitfixit7496]

Do you guys ship to Canada

[@davidharvey8643]

you know you pay for what you get for gopowersports has the best stuff I've ever bought

[@christianweiderer7365]

do you have torque converters for a 5 horse engine

[@kxlucifer]

Christian Weiderer 30 series

[@rcx2699]

do these wheels work on a 1970 to 1980 manco dingo btw do u sell the drum and band brake for this

[@Gypobt]

For what is a torque converter thanks

[@williamhaines856]

GREAT JOB

[@NotMeeither]

This has a bad flaw ! the driven pulley is installed backwards and causes the belt to go out of alignment when in the higher range which will cause early belt wear ! The 20 and 40 series were designed to have the moving half of the driven pulley toward the engine the 30 series has an asymmetrical belt with the almost flat side toward the engine so it would stay in alignment !

[@pl747]

Will these work with electric start?

[@GigaMuffin]

ya

[@slimjim119]

hope u update your brakes

[@tray123girouard2]

Is that for sale

[@ikstrucking3289]

40 series from Blast LED is better build, than go power sports. Though go power sports is worth every penny, no question about, can't go wrong with GPS

[@DattITrappan8400]

Twins?

[@bossjun5754]

I don't know man..the way you execute the assembly process is that you make the easy way into hard way, you should have elevated assembly table. you should show your followers how smart mechanics you are.

[@maverickb73]

That cone washer needed to be inverted and down in the drive safe so flipped

[@alfredoaldape9662]

Why wont my driving clutch expand when I give a gas.

[@bbb989]

I'm sorry but $370 is way to much for that set up.

[@kalonrick1]

Yeah the torque converter cost more than the motor

[@alrezgarage9046]

brandon franklin buy it off eBay for 70

[@lenardkim8923]

do you want to pay for quality or throw away? you get what you pay for

[@lenardkim8923]

alrez plays could be a cheap Chinese knockoff be careful

[@alrezgarage9046]

Lenard Kim it's been good the only problem I had was u have to change to high quality barrings

[@FormulaBoat]

40 series back-plate alone: www.ebay.com/itm/Heavy-Duty-40-Series-Torque-Converter-Back-Plate-Comet-Clone-TAV-Backplate/273786905166?hash=item3fbef8a24e:g:cFcAAOSw9mFbBYn5 The GPS all in one does work, and it does mis-align the belt as it shifts. You can get around this by installing the engine side pulley "backwards". Then, the belt center will follow correctly as the unit shifts.

[@MrDavidelliottjr]

Cool

[@jeffnations6649]

Your belt is angles when you give it gas. I think you need to swap the clutch around or your belt will be warm. China made them backwards.

[@iliasabadze9002]

Hello! I have velomobile and generator motor. I have question how to make a 4X4 car. can you answer me?

[@nevermind8694]

Actually it's never really the best idea to hit a crank shaft bolt with an impact gun unless your just pressing on a pulley maybe but I wouldnt recommend it does work just keep things straight it if you do at least dont finish without hand checking the bolt on any spindle or shaft especially check it tite with a socket wrench

[@rhsking05]

What go-kart frame is that you guys are using?

[@GoPowerSports]

its a manco dingo

[@danielprivate7442]

The 40 series looks larger/heavier than the old one, along with the engine being raised about 3 inches, I was wondering if there was any noticeable changes in handling/stability normally associated with raising the center of gravity? I'm thinking about designing a kart and want to know how much I should agonize over design concepts like this? Thanks.

[@GoPowerSports]

If you are building a kart from scratch then i would take everything into consideration. We just mounted it this way because it was the quickest way to test it out

[@isidroduenas1443]

Go Power Sports 9

[@melissareed8927]

This is y I'm not going to a 1" bore engine the performance parts are so high priced 212 is good enough for me

[@jacobsebastien3910]

Luv my Tillotson Engines

[@jeffreydonaldson576]

don't you just love master links in tight spaces and with large hands

[@martygp266]

Holy crap that brings out my inner demon sometimes I swear

[@8790176]

In the clutch

[@westinpatterson7486]

If y'all send me one of those torque converters I could make a video reviewing it?

[@inhumanfilth681]

They will send you one as soon as you buy it lol

[@jacobsebastien3910]

I'm sure we would all make a video if they gave us One' What is it that makes You Special? Lol'

[@inhumanfilth681]

@@jacobsebastien3910 all of his participation trophys lmao

[@flavioeduerdor]

muito bom qual a medida da roda e peneu

[@gwkdad]

Watching you guys fumble around is like watching a monkey and the proverbial football....

[@gregmeier8725]

Watch this video. Then don’t do most of what they do. They are using an impact gun for nearly all of their work. You cannot accurately control how tight or loose your bolts/nuts are. That’s just for starters. This video was done by EMPLOYEES from the place you buy ur parts from. I hope they aren’t the customer service help line.

[@zombiekiller9r876]

You forgot the brass bushing

[@jacobsebastien3910]

The 40 series doesn't use a brass bushing like the 30 series.

[@tony69774ucrazy]

This video is wrong. with this particular 40 series kit, you have to turn the clutch around instead of using washers and it will lineup. The way he setting it up, as the torque converter changes gear ratio the belt will bind due to the misalignment. If you don’t believe me, mount it the way he mounted it. Put up on jacks rev the engine and watch how the belt binds and goes crooked on the back pulley.

[@GetNitin69]

This statement is the most acccurate comment i have read on here.

[@jermainephillips5179]

yea prices are high but if you do the footwork better prices online elsewhere.don't get bent over paying too much

[@SuperDirk1965]

That is not a torque converter, it's a CVT.

[@ssplintergirl]

Because Comet branded them as Torque-A-Verter and it probably stuck as a xerox name.

[@chancewindham1718]

Get your shit together

[@jacobsebastien3910]

It's whatever the fuc I wanna call it buddy.

[@8790176]

You forgot to put the keyway in it

[@rednecklife-uu3je]

The Keyway is the slot cut into the out put shaft/drive axle the key is what goes into the keyway. And besides if the key was not in the axle or in one of the pulleys the tires would not move do to the pulley/sprocket just spinning on the shaft/axle.

[@quentinbenjamin7858]

Ok

[@КоляБасков-ф5з]

Прикольны тазик;;;)))

[@krisn8820]

Why do people call ENGINES, motors. I.C.E = internal combustion engine. A motor, is electric.

[@vashonwatchdog]

Put the leathernan back into the decorative pouch it came with and grab a proper tool. The leatherman is for when you don’t have tools, but you’re n a shop full of real tools... oh wait... you are the real tools.

[@Ghost-we7yo]

Gentlemen. I would like to point out that this whole process of mounting to the new motor plate is of the utmost bs.

[@GoPowerSports]

Let's hear your thoughts.

[@Foodstampsandfuelclamps]

We’re listening.

[@hayeshighroll447]

I'm Taylor from go powers ports. I'm matt.........

[@jacobsebastien3910]

Hi, I'm a person who gives no fucs who you are.

[@rayraylalonde]

Driven is backwards boys,,belt is way out

[@johnperry5396]

These guys are like two 12 year olds.