Upgrading your Pressure Washer with a Trigger Gun MTM Hydro SGS35

[@MrGymCrazy]

Bought the same thing in February this year after buying an MJJC cannon and getting the kit to convert my ancient "U" clip connection Karcher K7.85 to their quick release version. One benefit is that I can lay the hose down to drain it when I'm done, instead of trying to keep the trigger of the lance in the open position. The downside is that I have to fit an isolation valve to the hose in connection as, without the lance fitted, there's nothing to stop the flow of water. I prefer S/S to brass so all of my 1/4" connectors and lances are. My MTM leaked at both ends but just needed tweaking. Before investing in a 1/4" quick-connect setup, I asked on FB if anyone had had the quick-connect quickly-disconnect. A few said they had, even firing the nozzle at the car and putting a dent in it. They also said that you only do it once and that, as you noted, you get into the habit of checking by firing down and away first.

[@dave2166]

My SGS35 leaked like a drunk sat in a doorway on a Saturday night...from the joints. Had to put ptfe tape on all the threads and then perfect. Paired up with the Carscope blue and green nozzles..... so much nicer experience overall

[@markymoo1980]

Great review John. I upgraded to the SGS35 at the same time I upgraded to the Kranzle K10. I’ve also got the MTM bent lance wand and the trio together are simply amazing. Used mine every day 5-6 days a week and never let me down. You get what you pay for in this scenario!

[@raymondo007]

I have had the MTM SGS28 Ultimate Spray Gun for some months. I've found it to be a fantastic tool. I have also upgraded to stainless steel fittings for my Kranzel 2160 pressure washer. Its a great setup. Not cheap by any means but I feel the expense is worth it. I had 3 Karcher jet washers one K5 and two K7's, in12 months, all of which packed up within few weeks to a few months so I decided to go with the Kranzel. Going back to the gun I can highly recommend.

[@joemurphy4489]

A game changer using a quick release. Jon, would you do a review on different replacement rubber hoses that don’t kink, and have a good seal. I find the KARCHER hose meh. Thanks

[@VerminatorNo5]

This! I’ve got a 10m hose which is supposed to be anti kink. Kink it does

[@baitaddictbaits]

I’ve got the In2detailing 10m rubber Karcher hose and can’t fault it. Far superior to the standard issue Karcher hose.

[@Tank4sale]

Go to direct hoses I got one there to replace my karcher hose .. very good quality

[@dillingerdan]

I have the PremiumFlex Anti-Twist Hose 10m Karcher brand hose. Had it for years, extremely good. Way better than the included one on my k4 compact. Heavy, excellent quality. Let’s be fair though, every hose is kinkable, and having a swivel is also of great benefit. Extend it all the way out and get it straightened and flat before you start. Obviously I’m not including the “impossible to NOT kink” k2 hose in that advise. Just remove it and use it on your cars suspension when the coil goes.

[@Epifunk]

Love to see this also from budget friendly options to more high ends ones

[@jctothel]

Why not so many of your product group tests anymore? They were brilliant

[@kwl189]

Time consuming, not to mention expensive to do I reckon. John surely only has so much time to do em and think the training course keeps him busy and well funded too.

[@ForensicDetailing]

Yer I mean we have fine mist product genres and like peeps say millions of people do this. Although we will do more if it for sure

[@jctothel]

But you do it the best John, and people will always return to the best!

[@kwl189]

@@ForensicDetailing Second Average Joe. You do them best John. There's nobody better really and someone I trust to do group reviews. Seen the likes of Pan the organiser...

[@djsiuk]

I’ve got the same stainless Steel Gun from in2detailing and love it on my hot diesel power washer. I hate Karcher power washers now as the bar and gpm are way too low. Karcher in the past had excellent power and output. The only thing you do really need to check is the quick attachment is defo attached.

[@71no58]

Would you say this stubby gun increased pressure on the karcher ?

[@djsiuk]

@@71no58 I used one on K7 Compact and yes it had a lot more pressure. With the green nozzle easily removed hardened brake dust after pre-apply Carchem detox iron fall out remover. Also easily removed removed dirt and grime from the bottom third part of a poorly maintained car. This was after a pre spray down and dwell time of APC. The Gun is extremely well engineered and from what I have seen, is industry standard.

[@71no58]

@@djsiuk I find that it doesn’t remove dirt from the bottom of my car whereas the original karcher gun does. Not too sure on what to do

[@D992]

I had exactly the same issue Jon and mine too was from Imran. Glad you got yours swapped as mine wasn’t. 👎🏼. Hey ho I’ve moved over to Kranzle now 👍🏼

[@andrewlee109]

I have the karcher k7 premium which is an absolute beast of a machine I have always had karcher and have just upgraded the karcher hose and bought a gun similar to that one can’t wait now to try it out with a quick connect lance.

[@Ichabod_Jericho]

I’ve had this thing for about a year, super comfy & convenient to use. I’ve got a dinky 1100PSI pressure washer, wouldn’t have to stand so close to the car if I got a better washer!

[@KiranPatel-fk1pg]

Higher psi doesn't mean much it's the flow that matters

[@carloscarvalho4647]

Great! All my doubts about these guns are gone. Subscribed!

[@tonymasters667]

Just bought one…thanks for another great vid. Quality bit of kit.

[@LucaBonato]

You should try the longer mtm quick connect. More stable and less prone to fail.

[@michaelmineman2090]

New subscriber. Really enjoy your videos. Great info and great delivery mate. I’m just getting into this world and loving it. Thanks and keep up the good work . 👍

[@MartynFlowers]

Jon, I purchased an SGS35 about a year ago (not from in2 detailing), and as noted by you and other in the comments the quick connect was clunky. I’m guessing most of the companies selling these are not fitting MTM quick connects. I subsequently fitted a Mosmatic quick connect coupler, the quality and the way the nozzles fit is night and day!

[@wizzer1975]

Got the exact same setup, k7, mtm sgs35 and mtm foam cannon, really thick foam, it’s amazing

[@360Link]

Which nozzle size did you choose for Karcher K7? And which pressure you are using for washing car?

[@stingyrogerr]

Got this on a kranzle k10 ts. Works nice along with the 22.2 foamer

[@SuperchargedLlama]

I saw a video on a Facebook group I'm a member of the other day that was sort of on this topic. Something the poster noted was that the flow rate was way higher through the MTM gun, and this seems to echo what Brian and Apex Detailing found when he opened them up side by side. The MTM has much wider pipework. All of this means you'd have to redo your PIR calculations as they'll be off now; I thought that was really interesting as I hadn't really considered how the guns might vary that much in terms of flow rate.

[@bradtyson]

Did this the other month, its a great gun isn't it 👌👍👍

[@justchilling9442]

Really helpful, thanks for sharing.

[@kingsaf3998]

Great vlog love watching them, my advice to you would be upgrade your pressure washer next to a Kranzle well worth the money.

[@pavlospilakoutas]

Just ordered one for a K3. It does exist 😉

[@briannewton7237]

Great tips, Jon. Could you do a review on the various quick release lances available? I've been struggling to find one with a plastic grip that's at a reasonable length. Many thanks from a long time fan.

[@MartynFlowers]

Brian, check out Gleem Detailing supplies, they sell a Sutter 600mm lance + bend which has a great grip (and nozzle).

[@MrSolveMYMaze]

Great video, Jon. Actually lol'd with your comment about the red nozzle. 😂😂

[@benhook1850]

Is it just me but I prefer just a normal Lance when using the pressure washer? Especially when using it on the roof of a vehicle. Just gives me more access I think. Be interesting to see how many people are switching to these now

[@simonb6306]

Switching things out of the standard kartcher Lance for me was just too hard. It’s easier on the hand for rinsing but all round ease I prefer the stubby quick release.

[@werox2045]

Kärcher K3 does exist they are just not so produced such as K2's or K4's because they are not so easily bought/sold, I think maybe that is because k2 is economic and acceptable force (comparing to K1), but if one wants to upgrade they would hold on until they get the K4

[@simonburns102]

I've a K3.575 ? Amazon 15m hose, feels better quality than the original Karcher 6m hose.

[@au18ert]

Anyone watching this needs to buy the SGS35 it's £35 more but it's really worth it. I bought both with the intention on keeping one (the Mossmatic was just too expensive at double the price of the SGS35). The SGS35 has a lighter trigger almost feather like compared to the cheaper one and the twist is better as it doesn't lock up under pressure. . Plus it's stainless not brass.After one wash with the cheaper one my hand hurt. The SGS35 is the sweet spot for the hobbyist, for Pro go for the Moss I'm sure it's worth it.. Buy cheap buy twice!

[@jtm1979]

Actually Mosmatic isnt that much more expensive here in europe. Its like 76£ in uk. I have it but im crazy and will buy the SGS35 too so i can test that wich one is the best.

[@aaronolsen8787]

​@@jtm1979 did you prefer the mosmatic or the mtm SGS35? Which one has a better trigger or ergonomics?

[@jtm1979]

@@aaronolsen8787 After using both long term i prefer the Mosmatic. Trigger is better, erconomics are quite close but edge for mosmatic and the swivel is superiour on mosmatic.

[@johnlindley3622]

Hi sorry if this is the wrong forum to ask this question but I’m unsure how to ask a question unrelated to the video. 2-3months ago I clay bared, m/c polished and waxed my car with Bilt Hamber double speed wax following your very instructive videos so thank you my 11year old car looks amazing. But my question is how do I refresh the wax coating? I could just reapply after a good wash but would there be fall out in the wax which would remain under the new coat. Or do I re clay bar and would remove the the old wax coat or should I use some other product if necessary. I would really appreciate your thought or even a video on how to reapply protective coatings as I don’t seem to be able to find much on this subject. Thanks for all your great advice regards John

[@ForensicDetailing]

Wash dry dry addmore wax. In 1 yeay wash dry flat then cleanser polish then wax. You can also wash dry, cleanser fluid then wax for better bond. Cleanser fluid and cleanser polish are different products

[@guygittins6934]

Come on Jon! Get the MTM cannon too! It’s seriously good.

[@k.hussain360]

I really want to see a full teardown video of this gun vs the Suttner Guns. Part of me really thinks that the price of the MTM has a detailers premium and not a fan of the multiple couplings it appears to have.

[@ForensicDetailing]

Yes but steel is stronger than brass. My brass delux one last 2 years for half the price. That's 5he trade off right there really

[@k.hussain360]

@@ForensicDetailing oh I get the price difference based on the material difference. I just wondered how much of it is actual and how much of it is "detailers premium". After I watched your video, I looked at a teardown of the SGS28 and of a Suttner and both look very similar internally. I then went and specced up the Suttner and well for the price of everything, I could buy 3 of the MTM guns from In2detailing. So actually, the MTM is good value for what you get.

[@v12agb45]

Great review I’m going to go for this 👍

[@jamiekirkpatrick96]

Currently waiting for my kranzle with this gun to arrive, my Karcher k5 is swiftly dying, can't use it with the water tank anymore so hopefully it won't be long in coming because I can't stand the Karcher any longer!

[@SUPERSID1968]

All you need is a kranzle now Jon bin that piece of yellow tat try the m t m lance to and you'll have the perfect set up last for years 👍

[@mikebader3863]

Well I decided to take a punt and upgraded to the MTM SGS35 from the Autobrite short trigger gun. Got a good deal on the MTM and a good price selling my Autobrite gun, cost me about £30 to upgrade. Whilst I agree it feels a higher quality bit of kit, I’m not sure it justifies the price. I still find with extended use it makes your hand ache which was the main reason I upgraded hoping it wouldn’t be the case but there we go

[@rogerandout808]

I"ve been using the SGS35 since July (with K7 and MJJC) really happy with the build quality, but I find that I have a bit of trouble getting the nozzles to attach sometimes (as you noticed), so as you say - I always test fire away from the car into the pavement - I think the trigger lock is for numpties like me so the nozzle doesn't fly up into my face or eye 😀

[@360Link]

Which nozzle size did you choose for Karcher K7? And which pressure you are using for washing car?

[@rogerandout808]

@@360Link I normally use the white tip/40 degrees. I also normally use the digital display on 1or 2 levels. I did also get an extension for the hose to move around the car a bit easier. I also got the "wand" attachment, I find getting into the wheels, roof cuverage, sills and door jambs a bit better. I justified the K7 as I've got a large patio to clean too, but I'd be tempted with an Ava now. I think they were a Karcher reseller and there is compatibility with some components - double check that if you do buy one though.

[@robinwyn3089]

I get grip fatigue with mine (deluxe from Imran, on your recommendation), is this easier on the hand?

[@jasonphillips3865]

Yes they are.

[@minimadmotorman]

I've got one, I like it. Would I spend that money again? Possibly not, I was quite happy with my previous stubby gun.

[@scottsparky1]

I was looking for o e of these but I could not find o e for my karcher commercial preasure washer

[@baitaddictbaits]

Have you put a LSP on your wheelie bins? 😁

[@PSHARPE1]

That beading 😍

[@gonzalolealvidal3298]

someone knows were to buy a fast connector/attachment for Nilfisk P-DG 140.4 pressure washer? Tks

[@milkybottles9298]

Hello John, I know off on a bit of a tangent, but have you ever used or reviewed a race glaze water softener or similar. I have had a home water softener for years but have always rinsed using a hose straight from the mains that doesn't go through the softener. Recently I have rinsed using a watering can filled from the bath tap that is softened and cant believe the difference it makes. I still use a towel to dry the car, but have left in moderate sun to see what would happen and got no water spots at all.

[@ForensicDetailing]

I have not oneday hopefully

[@milkybottles9298]

@Lee Francis what size have you got 7, 14 or 25 litre, and how long would you say it lasted before you have had to recently change the resin?

[@simonb6306]

Got one about 2 Months ago. The 14 Ltr was about eight. Got a cheap water tester off Amazon. From what I read if your just using 6-8 ltrs per wash to do a final rinse it will last 1-2 years before having to swap the resin. It’s an absolute game changer. Saves so much time no more towel drying.

[@paulnewman7037]

Would this fit a karcher professional pressure washer? Mine isn’t push fit thanks. Great vid

[@ForensicDetailing]

its for K series only I think.

[@richard73]

I doubt if 99% of people are using Karcher’s.

[@cork_langer]

You mentioned pressure washers pulsing, why does this happen? Mine does it all the time and drives me crazy. Thanks

[@ForensicDetailing]

Back pressure to much possibly use wider orrafice

[@360Link]

Which nozzle size did you choose for Karcher K7?

[@ForensicDetailing]

i cant remember mate, but I researched it with imran. If you ask imran at in2detailing he can supply you the nozzles, tell him its for K7 karcher so must be bigger to stop the pulsing stall.

[@detailingbymo4044]

Would this be good with a karcher k4?

[@zzhughesd]

Gun at 75 sheets on a £130 Karcher statement interesting. My Question is. I intend upgrade to a £400-600 Karcher. Or could leave eco system go another brand. Will the 75 gun work same on spray width on the cheaper K3 machines. I have 3.99 and 3.450 machines currently

[@ForensicDetailing]

The guns will work on all k series karcher m8. If you buy k7 you need to use bigger orrafice it the machine will pulse. K4 if on budget with delux gun 35 quid. Or k7 with sgs35 gun 75 quid.

[@zzhughesd]

@@ForensicDetailing perfect. I’ll learn as I go. Channel great. I never knew too much about detailing. Well. Literally nothing . Sold 8000 cars on price and largely not cared greatly about condition or shape of paint mean etc. Think I’d prefer to valet for a living than run a car sales firm. Satisfying versus car trade post sale screamers !!!!! Imagine I’ll keep on what I know. Flogging the metal. Hopefully in 6 months to 6 years get somewhere near your knowledge. I’d well have made the faux-par rookie mistake and shoot the nozzle straight into the car and given it a bullet dent. !!!!!

[@DuncHank]

What power setting do you have the machine set to when using the snub gun?

[@ForensicDetailing]

3 or 4 out of 6

[@p.h.234]

I have a Karcher K2 Compact and have struggled to find a hose/gun replacement that will fit the connector.

[@baitaddictbaits]

The Karcher guns that In2detailing sell will fit the K2. It should be a click fit bayonet fitting.

[@p.h.234]

@@baitaddictbaits It does, thank you.

[@zmikemj]

I’m looking for a trigger gun to fit my Vax 2500 pressure washer ( 160 bar) not sure if these fittings are compatible Taken pictures of the vax fitting but Carnt seem to upload them

[@ForensicDetailing]

I don't know vac fitment sorry m8

[@zmikemj]

@@ForensicDetailing it is a push fit on the Lance end of hose but there’s possibly a few variations 🫣😅 I may take a chance and try source a thread adapter Do you have the site for the purchase of the hand-gun Thanks

[@ForensicDetailing]

if the hose has a round fitment it might match nilfisk and ava in which case clean your ride sell an adapter you can pop that into that has 22mm thread on other end to go into a stubby gun mate.

[@Shamap37]

Its confusing that there is 2 models of sgs35... this one, and the blue one. This one looks more like the sgs28. Someone can explain what are the differences?

[@andhen12]

John what do you do with all the stuff you test? All the foam cannons for example.

[@ForensicDetailing]

I give to T3 patreons in monthly competition s

[@andhen12]

@@ForensicDetailing cool. thanks

[@iantitley7116]

Have you ever tested the Ava pressure washers just got me self one they ar brill it uses kartcher fitments will this go with that

[@ForensicDetailing]

I have not sorry ian

[@iantitley7116]

If you get the chance you should mate there brill a good challenger to kartcher

[@claphotography2839]

My archer hose doesn’t fit in mines I bought the same one with the swivel and bottom attachment any ideas what’s wrong ?

[@ForensicDetailing]

K series?

[@claphotography2839]

@@ForensicDetailing k5

[@FantaLilt]

Your garden bins were beading water…You nutter 😁

[@GetCTOwned]

So when you buying yourself a Kranzle? :-D I have a K10/122 rigged up nice in my garage with a 30m hose. My Karcher K7 Compact now sits in the corner for Patio duty only. The new Kranzle quick release stubby gun also knocks spots off this cheapo one ;-)

[@bestcrazyboy8487]

@ Get CTOwned hi I’ve got a Kranzle K10/122 and want to try a stubby gun, you rate the kranzle stubby . Thanks

[@GetCTOwned]

@@bestcrazyboy8487 I do indeed. The Kranzle quick release stubby is excellent, such a good quick release system, really easy but really sturdy and secure as the spigot is long compared to the regular small quick releases you see on the nozzles.

[@bestcrazyboy8487]

@@GetCTOwned , Thank you so much for your fast reply, I’m sold will be ordering one tomorrow.

[@Audittr2108]

It’s a 4.0 orifice nozzles that you need for the K7. I have the K7 Compact and the deluxe gun and find it great. Did you find the MTM trigger a lot lighter?

[@nickperez1749]

I also have the K7 with the SGS35. It came with 2.0 orifice nozzles and it causes my K7 to pulsate. I’m guessing I need the 4.0 orifice nozzles

[@360Link]

@@nickperez1749 Which nozzle size did you choose for Karcher K7? And which pressure you are using for washing car?

[@gideonhall9]

I have a Kranzle K7 and just upgraded to this MTM trigger gun and can only get 80Psi Max for some reason which is very disappointing, surely it should have the same power output as the standard stubby gun? Anyone got any ideas? Tried both guns back to back and straight away drops to 80psi from 110psi from the standard gun

[@ForensicDetailing]

same nozzle size output on both guns?

[@David-uu3wq]

No good if you have a karcher professional washer. I haven't found a gun yet compatible with that system.

[@paul-fk7de]

Hi john can you tell me . I have a karcher k5 and my snow foam gun fits the k5 but how do I get it to fit this ?

[@ForensicDetailing]

Just buy the kit from in2 detailing with karcher adapter m8. And change Lance by fitting quick fit connector. 2 Minutes job

[@zimkitch]

Hi John. Are you still using your MTM? If not, what are you packing now? Have decided to upgrade from the Marcher. Any recommended lance/bottle combo also gratefully received. (I'm using a K2). Thanks

[@maco8010]

Will this gun work on a Nilfisk power washer

[@ForensicDetailing]

I can't provide product support for nilfisk sorry

[@danielpetkovic7420]

I got Karcher k5 power control (manual one), if I buy this gun am I going to have problems with power regulation?

[@ZDE13]

No, it will just default to max working pressure

[@danielpetkovic7420]

@@ZDE13 when I connect my foam lance will it leak from to much pressure? Because k5 has a mix function (lower pressure i think🤔)

[@ZDE13]

@@danielpetkovic7420 no, it shouldn’t :) I have the K7 and I have no trouble with the foam lance

[@RobertSmith-di5ll]

Another interesting vid - you are as addictive as smoking

[@matthewhardy1656]

John which model is your karcher

[@ForensicDetailing]

K7 m8

[@matthewhardy1656]

There is a few models John

[@Jeffrey-P.]

have you coated your garbage cans? 🤔 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 Best regards from Germany Jeff PS: sorry for me english , Google helps me by translation

[@Vyker]

Are you still running?

[@mikebader3863]

£75? Why is this twice the price of all the other short trigger guns on the market? I bought mine from Autobrite Direct, looks very similar and came with same karcher attached and different nozzles. Had mine 2 years, no issues at all

[@dave2166]

Pick it up... hold it... and then you'll see why its the money it is... you can feel the quality Also the trigger mechanism is so much easier and kinder on the hand and fingers.... 12 months of using the AD gun and 2 months into the MTM...

[@mikebader3863]

@@dave2166 cheers mate I’ll keep that in mind

[@ForensicDetailing]

Steel fitment probably.

[@mikebader3863]

@@ForensicDetailingbut brass as a raw material is significantly more expensive than stainless steel???

[@RobertSmith-di5ll]

we all need to check our orifices - weekly

[@alanwong928]

I’ve just bought the same gun as you but I purchased it from Carscope with the MTM wand and there blue and green nozzles. Looking forward to receiving it tomorrow. Also I purchased a 20m non kinking high quality hose replacement for my karcher k7 compact from cleantec. I’m sure both items will be a massive upgrade.

[@ForensicDetailing]

Make sure you have right orrafice size. K7 can pulse otherwise but even if it does not pulse too much back pressure can break the unit. In2detailing sell the correct orrafice for karcher k7

[@alanwong928]

@@ForensicDetailing I’ve ordered the 040 orafice to match the K7. What size were you using?

[@PaulDoldenDetails]

Stainless steel guns and upgrades are the way forward Jon got a new one coming up soon on my channel shameless plug from me cracking video as always Sir stubby guns all the way I’ve sent you an Instagram message ✊🏻👍🏻✊🏻

[@k.hussain360]

Interesting, I'll be watching that when it comes out.

[@smokeoutfpv4132]

That bin was hydrophobic as fuck

[@EricaDavis-q9h]

Ariane Overpass

[@kwakgreen]

I wouldn't waste my money. plug snow foam into karcher and your away no problem.

[@au18ert]

I like to know how this compares to the Mossmatic. I know it's about the same price again but if it lasts a lifetime isn't it worth it instead of keep buying Chinese rubbish. Make do and mend rather than keep throwing away and start again.

[@RobertSmith-di5ll]

Dulux is paint

[@RDR1456]

Plot twist… John is Imran 😂😂 Ps: I don’t think this is worth 75 quid, I don’t get why someone doesn’t just make this but you can still adjust the pressure on it. The whole fixed head thing seems a bit backward. I change the pressure several times to clean the microfibres during the wash, are you in to rinse my hands I change to light pressure, and then heavy pressure for wheels etc… also kind of like not having to bend down to rinse off the wheels etc.. and being at a fair distance from all the spray, Each to their own I guess

[@in2detailing120]

Jon has more hair than me…….on his head that is, facial hair wise he’s well behind me 🥸

[@RDR1456]

@@in2detailing120 fancy sending me a free Trigger Gun Hydro SGS35? lol

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

7th