Upper Class Review on Virgin Atlantic Boeing 787-9. What is this?

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@visitwithus
@visitwithus 10 ай бұрын
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@T-World88
@T-World88 8 ай бұрын
Comical hints, interesting narration and absolute joy of a review to watch! Love this 😂
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 8 ай бұрын
Thank you ☺️ Glad you enjoyed it!
@dunnetin1
@dunnetin1 9 ай бұрын
A nice change to see a flight review. Great detailed & informative report! Thanks & “Winstar!” 🙏👍🚢
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 😊
@CruisingColemans
@CruisingColemans 9 ай бұрын
Another great video! We’ve been lucky enough to fly Upper once with Virgin and we specifically picked A350 flights because of the seats. It’s not cheap and we would feel disappointed if we paid what we did and got these seats. As you say, better than economy but these seats have definitely had their day!
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Yes, thankfully we got them on an upgrade bid so didn’t pay full whack for them so for us it was worth it. But like you say, not the best 😞 Thanks for watching 👍
@deborahwade9896
@deborahwade9896 10 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh, you two make every review so much fun. My husband and I are huge fans. We both had some big chuckles over your descriptions and comments. My husband and I flew to and from Heathrow from San Francisco on Virgin Atlantic upper class, (first time) in March this year. Your review completely validated my choice of flying on the A350 over the 787. I spent so much time watching reviews etc. before our trip and decided on the A350. Glad I spent all the time making my poor husband (also named Rich😊) watch all of the videos with me. We had an amazing trip and now I believe the seat configuration makes a huge difference. And so true that the Virgin Atlantic crew made all the difference. They truly make you feel first-class. Thanks for another wonderful video!
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for your continued support Deborah. So glad you're with us! :D
@ricardosf777
@ricardosf777 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic review!!! Love the quirky sense of humour!! 😂
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thank you 😊
@terriaaseth3019
@terriaaseth3019 4 ай бұрын
I recently booked a flight on the 350 LAX to LHR and wanted to try upper class for the long haul flight. Delta switched my flight to the 787-9 and luckily I noticed the much different seat configuration. Thanks to videos like this I knew that the sideways seats were not for me and not what I signed up for and paid for. I called Delta and had them switch me back to a 350 airplane which they did at no extra cost. So glad I caught it before my flight! In this case I booked thru Delta, but the flight is operated by Virgin Atlantic.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful 👍 Thanks for watching.
@vanbrendle
@vanbrendle 9 ай бұрын
We flew Business Class on Delta last year to Europe from the US. The accommodations were nice and spacious, but the food wasn’t edible for the most part. I would have preferred the snack packs in Economy Class. We were served soggy cheeseburger’s and quiche that could have served as a hockey puck. Back to Economy Class this year for our yearly cruise.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Oh dear, that’s not good! Thanks for watching 😊
@norfolkboy6935
@norfolkboy6935 10 ай бұрын
We flew Virgin Premium economy to Miami in May and thought it represented better value then Upper class. Your excellent review has confirmed this. The angled seating is a significant flaw. OTBC!
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 10 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more! Who on EARTH thought angled seats were a good idea? 😆
@everythinggoes850
@everythinggoes850 9 ай бұрын
It's called a "coffin" seat
@RonE_UK
@RonE_UK 9 ай бұрын
These UC seat design is from the mid-2000 when introduced on the A340-600. Hence why the design and all the trimmings look dated. It has taken Virgin 15-20 years to come up with a totally new UC seats in the 350-1000/A330neo.
@Grazilla52
@Grazilla52 9 ай бұрын
Great video! My BFF & I booked Virgin Upper Class on the 350 (LHR-JFK) in June 2022 but at the last minute, Virgin switched out the equipment to the 787. I basically knew what we were in for, but after visiting the Clubhouse & all it has to offer (🥂), I didn’t care until I saw all those feet across from me. But I agree w/you, the crew was wonderful & the food & drinks terrific. I’ll definitely give them another chance but book my seat on the left side, just in case.😉
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Yes, as we got our seats last minute from an upgrade bid, all of the seats in the other side had already gone 😞 But for what we paid it was a nice experience, just a weird configuration.
@TheMaartian
@TheMaartian 9 ай бұрын
Enjoyable review. Thanks. FWIW, the right side of a vessel, when facing forward toward the bow of the ship or nose of the aircraft, is the starboard side. The left side is the port side.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and the info 👍
@funny2thag
@funny2thag 6 ай бұрын
I have flown all of their classes and I think Premium Economy has the best value. It’s similar to domestic USA first class on Delta but on long haul flights. The best privacy option flying upper class on a 787 is on the left side where there is a wall and no one across from you, A350 is still nicer. Great video, I’m a new subscriber.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. We agree, PE is the way to go for the best value for money:flying experience ratio 😁
@xr6lad
@xr6lad 9 ай бұрын
Flew Upper class many years ago. It was great. They have never sold it as First class. But they have fallen behind other BC’s despite being ahead of the pack 15+ years ago. Their lounges at airports though are still a strong point. Not sure if the decline and lack of innovation has set in since being taken over? Qatar A380 BC is great and the onboard lounge so great.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
aybe they call it Upper Class so it CAN'T fall into a specific accepted category so therefore it's open to interpretation? Shame we didn't get to experience the Lounge. Maybe next time (if the price is right lol)
@agentbananauk
@agentbananauk 8 ай бұрын
They kinda did sell it as 1st class for business price.
@eminiarvii
@eminiarvii 9 ай бұрын
OMG! Really enjoyed this review. informative with a side of comedy I am glad my Virgin Australia first class flight from Hawaii to Sydney in 2012 was everything and more that this upper class was not🚢😊
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! Yes, it's strange that Virgin Australia is obviously a different company than Virgin Atlantic.
@lisadee1623
@lisadee1623 10 ай бұрын
Several years ago on a work-paid business trip Virgin Atlantic was my first experience outside of coach. I flew round trip from the US to LHR in Upper Class. The airports lounges were amazing and the onboard experience was awesome. I talked about it for years. Fast forward to last year when we flew in United Polaris round trip to Europe. The seat layout was sooo much better than on Virgin. In my little pod I felt like I had complete privacy (odd numbered row by the window; even rows aren’t as private). There was tons of storage room. The food and service were not as good as Virgin but the lounges on both sides of the pond were very nice. Your video brings back memories of that trip on Virgin which I thought was so great at the time, there’s no way I’d choose to fly them again given that layout. I’m hoping to one day get to fly Qatar Q-suites or Emirates business class but I might have to wait until I win the lottery :)
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences. We've not tried many at all (always been out of our budget) but we're willing to try more, but like you, probably after a lottery win lol!
@markthompson50
@markthompson50 9 ай бұрын
If you're deciding to call your service 'Upper Class' you better be sure that the whole experience lives up to the image those words portray! Actually, in this day and age it all sounds unnecessarily snobbish. At least I now know that if ever I consider booking this, I need to be damn sure to book the seats facing the window or much awkwardness will ensue! A great review well narrated!
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely 👍 Thanks for watching 😊
@firstfreonwarrior
@firstfreonwarrior 9 ай бұрын
I did UC to Las Vegas on a really old 747 a couple of times. If I remember correctly just 14 seats. The cabin crew really were the icing on the cake.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
We never got to travel on a 747. :( Agreed, the crew make all the difference. :)
@50kevind
@50kevind 9 ай бұрын
You are correct in there been only 14 seats. I did UC about a dozen times from Gatwick to Vegas and Orlando and back. It felt more exclusive having only that many seats and even though they were at an angle facing away from the windows you were quite a distance away from the person at the other side of the plane. Yes the 747 was an old aircraft but I miss it
@98gjtube
@98gjtube 7 ай бұрын
Those were the days, seemed really special 😁. The seats are identical on the current LHR to LAS route but far more seats
@50kevind
@50kevind 7 ай бұрын
@@98gjtube yes I think there's about 38-40 seats now in UC on the 787
@sb6181
@sb6181 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. We all get drawn into the glamours adverts for Upper Class but it’s a very open dormitory essentially with views of other people’s feet as you eat that very exclusive food….. crisps. To be honest, Premium Economy on VS is very good and they really need to up their game in Upper.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
We agree, we love their premium economy product. Thanks for watching 👍
@youtubewatcher1135
@youtubewatcher1135 9 ай бұрын
I'm glad you are branching out to include aircraft and flight classes above economy. The two modes of transportation go together, unless we can depart from our favorite port, which is our home port of San Francisco. Have you ever departed from San Francisco?
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
No, we haven’t yet. We have sailed in and out of there but not flown - maybe one day🤞 Thanks for watching 😊
@user-qp7ws5sn3i
@user-qp7ws5sn3i Күн бұрын
penny pinching. much preferred the old grey and red bag, which we are still using 5yrs after having flown.
@venomfanex
@venomfanex 4 ай бұрын
Exactly the same as Air New Zealand's Business Premier.
@cherifurr3935
@cherifurr3935 10 ай бұрын
I had my best business class flight ever on Virgin Atlantic from LHR to KEN, better than Delta or American. Their lounge in LHR was amazing, too - table service with menus, free alcohol, salad bar and light bites. Huge space. No one peered over my seat, lol. Throw all the stuff in the “pocket things” on the floor! The IFE was the best selection I’ve ever seen! Dining and flight attendants were amazing, and I especially loved the cream tea served right before landing in the US. Didn’t know they expected you to take the S&P, though! Glad your quibbles went away. If you want to experience a bad Business class, try Finnair! The seats were in pods, and you had a foot bed, but the seats didn’t recline or slide down at all! The flight attendant said “Well, there’s a pillow to put behind your bed.” AND you had lift up a middle piece to go between the seat and the foot bed. The controls for the tray table, etc., were so complicated and “non-transparent” that I had to grr get the flight attendant to explain them to me. You would have had to be a contortionist to slide down flat. You got a great deal on that price!
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 10 ай бұрын
I’m glad you had a great experience on Virgin Upper Class. I suppose we’d hyped ourselves up so much anything would’ve been disappointing. 😆
@ManWhoLovesTheMary
@ManWhoLovesTheMary 2 ай бұрын
I hope the very good looking food makes up for the awkward layout.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 2 ай бұрын
Food and service were good but would still probably choose Premium Economy over Upper Class on this plane - better value for money in our opinion 👍
@angelahorton5745
@angelahorton5745 10 ай бұрын
Great video! We've never flown Upper Class on Virgin because we've found Premium Economy great value and gives us the little extras needed on a 9-10 HR flight. Your video has confirmed we've made the right decision. The snack wall on Virgin in Premium Economy offers so much more in the way of treats than you seemed to have been offered, unless some greedy passengers got there before you.😂 Emirates A380 is my favourite Business Class, if I'm paying all that extra I want to pampered. Thanks for all the high quality, helpful content you produce. I'm constantly checking back on your previous videos before setting off on holiday.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 10 ай бұрын
Yes, Virgin’s Premium takes some beating! We’ll be reverting back to that next time. Thanks for watching Angela. ☺️
@GoodLuck-hy1qu
@GoodLuck-hy1qu 7 ай бұрын
Believe me, there’s no comparison to emirates do yourself a favor, and do not fly Virgin Atlantic. You will be so disappointed. The food is subpar. The service is subpar laying down, is like laying down on a rock board. Horrible the worst uper class I’ve ever flown in my life.
@angelahorton5745
@angelahorton5745 7 ай бұрын
@@GoodLuck-hy1qu We've flown Business Class with Emirates a few times to Australia & New Zealand and love it but Virgin Premium Economy suits us for our flights to the US. We feel they represent excellent value for money and meet our needs.
@TheRailwayDrone
@TheRailwayDrone 8 ай бұрын
Your voice is soothing to me.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 8 ай бұрын
Thank you ☺️
@ericericson3535
@ericericson3535 10 ай бұрын
I don't know why Virgin continues with the herringbone thing, in addition to the window problem there's the hitting the feet of the person across from you. I always fly Premium Economy on Virgin now, price and space are much better, and face forward seats. Although I loved the last inmate in the looney bin reference. At least no shower curtains LOL! Love your vlogs!
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 10 ай бұрын
Yes you’re absolutely spot on, Premium Economy is definitely the way to go with Virgin. There’s very little between the two for the massive price difference in our opinion. Thanks for watching and your continued support. ☺️
@MB.S560
@MB.S560 2 ай бұрын
Personally I prefer their premium cabin it’s the best cabin in the 787 due to the low density and I can’t wait to try it
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 2 ай бұрын
Yes, we agree. PE is the best category, delivering value for money, good service and acceptable seating for an overnight flight 👍
@MB.S560
@MB.S560 2 ай бұрын
@@visitwithus I found a deal on upper class cheap would you justify upgrading or not?
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 2 ай бұрын
Well that’s what we did on this flight so who are we to judge 😆 If you can get it at a good price then why not? But suppose it depends on cost, PE might be a better option depending on the cost to upgrade. Unfortunately most of the reasonably priced upgrades are the flights out of other airports than Heathrow where the Upper class lounge is the best part of the experience 😁
@MB.S560
@MB.S560 2 ай бұрын
@@visitwithus yes I’ll have to consider upgrading as I genuinely found a good deal both ways
@MB.S560
@MB.S560 2 ай бұрын
@@visitwithus the upper class seats are controversial but personally I think they are cool
@gregbez
@gregbez 9 ай бұрын
Compared to BA, this looks like heaven! SERVICE makes all the difference. The worst flight I’ve ever been on was on BA WTP on their bashed up A380s.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
I thank you might be right there. Virgins cabin crew are fantastic.
@appgetupside3137
@appgetupside3137 2 ай бұрын
Nice video! I like Virgin Atlantic. The flight attendants are friendly, and the service is excellent. They serve beer and liquor in the Economy cabin, which surprised me. I also enjoy their food. However, the only aspect I dislike is their Upper Class. If my business pays for Upper Class, I don't mind taking it, but I don't think it's worth the cost. I have traveled to London Heathrow (LHR) many times and have flown with Virgin Atlantic in Economy, Premium, and Upper Class. I found that Economy is the best option for me. If I need to fly first class (e.g., on a red-eye flight for a business meeting the next day), I prefer Delta One.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 2 ай бұрын
Yes we agree but our preference would be Premium Economy which for us balances well the cost and comfort dichotomy 😁
@AymeeDonovan
@AymeeDonovan 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this honest & witty review , im planning a holiday to Seattle , i was debating whether to take Upper Class or Premium , i think i will go with Premium ! X
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 5 ай бұрын
We honestly prefer Premium as we feel it offers the best experience at a reasonable cost 👍
@Oakridger2024
@Oakridger2024 9 ай бұрын
I was considering Virgin business from Norway back to California until I saw this seat configuration. No Way!! Air New Zealand business class has this same horrible seat layout, and I will not book on them either for my next trip to Auckland. Who thought this arrangement is a good idea?? Thanks for another good review!
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting Nancy 👍
@garethcotterell9698
@garethcotterell9698 8 ай бұрын
lol your so funny. great video
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 8 ай бұрын
Thank you 😁 Glad you enjoyed it. :)
@cariz4964
@cariz4964 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for an excellent, thoughtful review. I fly SEA-LHR about 3x per year in Virgin Upper and BA Club World. I mix and match depending on which airline is offering the best price. I know both products well, and I've had excellent experiences with both Virgin and BA crews. Just a small correction on your commentary. SEALHR on BA is twice daily currently, with the 787-10 and 777 200 and 300 models. You mentioned that the BA service is on 20 year old 777. That isn't entirely true. If you take the earlier of two flights from SEA-LHR you'll be on a very new 787-10. Most of them on the SEA -LHR route are 3 years old or less. If you take the later flight you'll be on a 777 ranging anywhere from 25 years old to 3 years old, so it is a mixed bag. As for a comparison between BA Club World and Virgin Upper Class, I have found both to be excellent products, and I have flown them quite a few times to notice that you can have great crews on both. Where it differs is the seat. Virgin Upper class on their 787-9s are the worst business class seats of any of the lie-flat products that I have experienced. Whoever OK'd this configuration at Virgin should be fired. Who wants to face fellow passengers, often with their shoes and sometimes socks off? No thanks. Compare this to BA's Club Suites with the privacy door, and normal front facing configuration allowing you to comfortably look out the window without straining your neck. There's something about the privacy door that creates a mindset of a cocoon, and for me allows me to clear my mind and rest more comfortably across the Atlantic. If you have the opportunity to fly BA's Club Suites in the future, give them a try and I'd love to hear your review. That being said you may also look out for Virgin's Suite product with the privacy door on their A350 or the A330-900 neo. - an excellent product on par with BA's Club Suite. Cheers!
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and for your comprehensive comment. We love doing flight reviews and hope to get to do more in the future. We’d love to try the Upper class Virgin product on different planes as well as BA’s club suites 🤞
@fazalm8687
@fazalm8687 9 ай бұрын
Classy review. Can you also review A330neo Upper class? Also BA business class.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thank you. We’d love to review both. 🙂
@hellobayo
@hellobayo 9 ай бұрын
Great review. I'm on a work trip soon and wanted to see what the seat will be like. Seems like I'd be better in premium economy, especially for a day flight. Unfortunately my work won't allow me to go econ/prem econ, then pay me the difference. 😅
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 😊
@grainnemurphy
@grainnemurphy 9 ай бұрын
Very fair review! I've done Upper Class a few times now - first time was March 2020 - and have managed A350, 787 and A330. I'm very short, so if I sit on the left on the A330 or 787, I just feel like I'm in a very private cubicle. Just the wall in front. I think the seat and cabin are dated, including the IFE, but actually find the seat comfortable. Having to ask crew to make the bed is a faff, but they're usually lovely and proactive on the night flights. I like a firm mattress, so have found it very comfortable to nap on...but have only tried shorter JFK-LHR flights so far. Absolutely lacking storage, and mad that the A350 is no better. IFE selection mediocre, and it's annoying that they don't do free messaging like their partners. Discovered I had free access via my Mastercard and Boingo on the A350 though - nice. The amenity kit is pitched as sustainable, but always just seems cheap to me. I only tried Premium before they changed them, but even the old Herschel pouch for that was better. At least you could reuse it! In 2020 they at least have you really nice, proper socks to make up for the rest of it being a bit crap - had a variety for different routes I think? But that's gone and they're the usual cheap ones that are fine for a flight now. I mean, it's all fine...but just fine. Others do it much better and I'm tired of sustainability as a cover for cheapness. Meals generally good! Tend to go for express menu from JFK because I'll eat in the Clubhouse. Would say food is more fun/tasty than gourmet. Love the PJs, even though S/M are big on me - wish they did XS. Crew are generally superb. Even with the niggles regarding various aspects and the things I'd change, they tend to make it feel like a special experience. Some have absolutely treated me like a VIP and I only wish I could feel half as valued in my daily life! So I continue to hand over my money...
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and for your comprehensive comment 😊
@toccoa
@toccoa 9 ай бұрын
TYVM! I hope to try a VA UC some day. I regret not doing it when it was a great way to use delta sky miles. Slightly Annoying complication that before booking from Reno (lax or slc) I need to see whether it is cobranded (delta or va iron) and the model of the plane to know the experience. And delta is delta one vs delta one suites. And then see whether it is too expensive or omg are they serious expensive
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
@LMays-cu2hp
@LMays-cu2hp 9 ай бұрын
Thank you fir sharing your trip here. Those seats on an angle are cute.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thank you 👍
@LMays-cu2hp
@LMays-cu2hp 9 ай бұрын
@@visitwithus You are welcome.
@DavidAbrehart
@DavidAbrehart 9 ай бұрын
Upper Class is a business class product. Regarding the seats, if they are going to make the seats so that they have to be rotated by cabin crew in order to turn them into a bed, they could at least make the mattress deep and amazingly comfortable - they missed a trick here.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 😊
@mach1954
@mach1954 9 ай бұрын
Flown a few times upper class on Virgin A350 from Manchester. Different configuration from the A350 out of London as it only has 16 upper class seats. Feels a more exclusive experience. Loved it 😎😎😎😎
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍
@thevirgintraveller
@thevirgintraveller 9 ай бұрын
I think the 787 Upper Class product probably worked at the time, however, times change and this product is far inferior to other VA Upper Class offerings. If you get a chance, fly the A330neo Upper Class suites, the difference is night and day.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
🤞 Thanks for watching 😊
@98gjtube
@98gjtube 7 ай бұрын
Having travelled both BA (business class) and Virgin (upper class) on the Vegas route, the Virgin offering is far superior. So I guess it depends on provider/route and hence what planes they use.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 7 ай бұрын
The plane and seat configuration definitely makes a difference, as does the service which Virgin do so well 👍 Thanks for watching ☺️
@cobbyclan3466
@cobbyclan3466 9 ай бұрын
Our experience on Virgin Upper Class was good (starting at check in at LHR), we sat on the port side having (always) checked the seat layout.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Yes, unfortunately these were all taken by the time we got to choose our seats, but they would be a little better. Thanks for watching 😊
@BenedettoFamily4
@BenedettoFamily4 9 ай бұрын
I flew that config style on Air New Zealand .. it was just wierd
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 😊
@mikosh08
@mikosh08 9 ай бұрын
Firstly - I love VA, the way they do things... and if possible I'll always try to give them a preference. I've flown this plane (VA 787) several times (HK to London before the route was abandoned) and Mumbai to London - booked to fly that one again next year. I've also been lucky (using points for all of this, otherwise... not wealthy enough) to fly Qantas, Cathay, Emirates and BA business class long hall. I agree with the review 100% - the seat is the worst part of the deal. However, to be fair - it is not quite the worst business seat - that 'honour' goes to BA in 2-4-2 (!!) business configuration. Now those BA seats REALLY resemble hibernation pods on an interstellar spaceship in the movies - very much coffin-like. Having said that - ANY business class where you can lie flat is immeasurably better than THE BEST available economy. It is also much better than premium economy, however the price is, of course, a factor to consider. Premium economy is, again, nicer than economy, but for me - the jump to business from premium is greater than economy to premium economy. The ability to lie flat is the clincher for me, plus the fact that there is nothing immediately in front of your face and the seat in front (if there is one) cannot recline towards you. Well, there is more of course: a direct isle access, much more space, no sharing armrests, no-one snoozing on your shoulder, no need to climb over anyone (or flight attendant to lean over you to serve someone) - unless you are unlucky to be in BA 2-4-2 business class.... Back to Virgin Atlantic Upper Class in 1-1-1 configuration - yeah, it's better than any economy (premium included), but when compared to other modern business class offerings - it is very much lagging behind. It's like a marathon runner finishing two hours after the winner... good, but not competitive. The check-in at Heathrow is great, the lounge is great, cabin crew and catering too - but the most important part - your comfort on a 9-10 hour flight is not great when compared to the competition. The seats are very much out of date and need to be replaced. Given the choice - If I were using cash I would not choose VA 1-1-1 Upper Class (meaning business) over others UNLESS it was at least 30% cheaper. And I DO love VA...
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks for watching and for your comprehensive comment 👍
@mikosh08
@mikosh08 9 ай бұрын
@@visitwithus No worries, keep up the good work. Hopefully it won't be long before VA updates these 787s with a new product/seats.
@johnchristmas7522
@johnchristmas7522 5 ай бұрын
GIVE ME THE A350-1000 EVERY TIME
@MrAnderson321
@MrAnderson321 9 ай бұрын
Is that the price for return flight or one way for 2 people?🤔
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
This for a one way flight from Seattle to London Heathrow 👍
@alohapoppet6107
@alohapoppet6107 9 ай бұрын
The 787-9 is an old product and is showing its age. The A350 and the very new A330 are by far better. That being said, it is still not a bad way to fly. I am flying on the 789 from LHR to Hawaii in 4 weeks, a 19-hour flight with connections in LAX.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Have a safe journey. Thanks for watching 👍
@Michele-ot8bh
@Michele-ot8bh 10 ай бұрын
It’s crap for the extortionist price, hence why I stopped flying with them years ago. I mean, I even had to ask for a meal from economy class, because what I was offered was inedible!
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 10 ай бұрын
Wow! That was not good at all! 😱 Yes, without a good deal, these fares are getting well out of hand.
@OkFine1999
@OkFine1999 10 ай бұрын
Being a business, business-class flyer I find nothing "Upper Class" about Virgin Atlantic service... From the weird, awkward, lacking comfort and lack of privacy seats to the unimaginative food offerings, lack of privacy and the overall cleanliness of the cabin I'm not impressed at all. Everything seemed CHEAP to me! Personally, I won't be flying Virgin Atlantic anytime soon! On a brighter note, your video was informative, enjoyable and top notch. Thank you for the insight into Virgin Atlantic "Upper Class" service!
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and your kind words about our video and also your opinion about VA, which is very interesting. :)
@OkFine1999
@OkFine1999 9 ай бұрын
@@visitwithus What did you find 'interesting' about my opinion? Interesting as in difference of opinion or interesting as way off base? I often wonder what KZbin creators think about comments on their work. I've traveled quite extensively for business but the last thing I want to do in today's world is to get on a plane. Travel used to be civilized, enjoyable and social. Today it's anything but! If not for work, I'd never set foot on another plane unless it's private. I've got millions of miles on various airlines but being I travel all the time for business the last think I want to do is get on a plane. gets me in trouble with the wife but I'd rather stay home 😄 Big Smile my friends
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
@@OkFine1999 Yes, I suppose 'interesting' can be a bit ambiguous. I meant that it was succinct, honest and grabbed my attention. :) Air travel is certainly not something that could be deemed as 'romantic' or even 'pleasant' any more. Unless of course you throw big money at it, which is something we don't have.
@OkFine1999
@OkFine1999 9 ай бұрын
@@visitwithus I agree... Thanks for responding to my comments. I appreciate that you would take the time to answer my comments. I've subscribed to your channel and look forward to your future content! Have a great week and Big Smile my friend🙂
@jenserikjohansson6228
@jenserikjohansson6228 10 ай бұрын
Hopless config seats.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. They are rather unusual eh?
@jenserikjohansson6228
@jenserikjohansson6228 9 ай бұрын
@@visitwithus yes
@MPDLR
@MPDLR 9 ай бұрын
THE SEATING...is bizarre. What the hell were they thinking.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
🤷 Thanks for watching 👍
@dannasilva9079
@dannasilva9079 9 ай бұрын
Not impressed with that upper class at all. The configuration of the seats were just weird lol. Thanks for the review!
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍
@user-ud7kj6uz6t
@user-ud7kj6uz6t 9 ай бұрын
WINDSTAR
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍
@sweetsadventure
@sweetsadventure 9 ай бұрын
WiFi is not free?
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
It wasn’t for us 😞 Thanks for watching 👍
@dannyquinn9128
@dannyquinn9128 10 ай бұрын
That's an odd looking cruise ship. I've never seen one that flies before.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 10 ай бұрын
It certainly 'cruises' but at a slightly quicker rate than your average ship. 😅
@agentbananauk
@agentbananauk 8 ай бұрын
If the highlights are grey goose and whispering angel then it's a pass from me. That you can't go up and down from lie flat bed with buttons sounds annoying and also that you can't see out of the window isn't great. I wouldn't pay a cent more than you did
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍
@MPDLR
@MPDLR 8 ай бұрын
Ok I'm guilty. This is a first world problem. BUT -- - Virgin's Upper Class I never see a steak or beef entree. That's nutty.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 8 ай бұрын
First world problem but valid point at this price point 👍 Thanks for watching 😊
@MPDLR
@MPDLR 8 ай бұрын
Thanks. I did some Googling and it seems the Founder - banned beef - for sustainability. So now when my fat ass is in the air, emitting carbon emissions from a big airplane - I will forgo a steak and save the planet.
@dougwint
@dougwint 4 ай бұрын
I absolutely hate that seat configuration.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 4 ай бұрын
It’s not the best that’s for sure. Thanks for watching.
@ASarge77
@ASarge77 9 ай бұрын
What a terribly designed cabin. Excellent review as always though
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 😊
@divox9pqr
@divox9pqr 9 ай бұрын
That seat configured is just to weird for me. Virgin Atlantic would be my last choice.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍
@GoodLuck-hy1qu
@GoodLuck-hy1qu 7 ай бұрын
Good choice believe me, you don’t want to fly them
@KarenKaiser
@KarenKaiser 9 ай бұрын
"Strapped down like the last looney in the asylum" Brilliant....
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
I can only say honestly how I feel at the time. 😅
@KarenKaiser
@KarenKaiser 9 ай бұрын
You certainly say it with a delightful amount of panache! Cheers!
@-DC-
@-DC- 10 ай бұрын
The Price doesn't match the Product in Virgin Upper Class, Far better options available.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Yes, we're inclined to agree. :)
@honeymcdonald9120
@honeymcdonald9120 9 ай бұрын
What an awful layout did the designers of this and Air NZ learn nothing from 15 years ago?
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely 👍 Thanks for watching 😊
@cherifurr3935
@cherifurr3935 8 ай бұрын
Extra Virgin
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 9 ай бұрын
HORRIBLE seats and configurations. It's the old product they have had for years. I tried them once and never again. Virgin is mostly marketing hype anyway. CX tried these seats briefly and very quickly got rid of them.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍
@GoodLuck-hy1qu
@GoodLuck-hy1qu 7 ай бұрын
It was horrible. I will never fly virgin Atlantic again from the food was awful. I couldn’t even get a decent cup of coffee. I asked for coffee she bought me coffee that tasted like crap and then brought me another coffee and she watered it down. Please do not waste your time flying virgin Atlantic the food was horrible. You have to get out of your seat to lay down your bed. The bed is so hard and flat. There is no cushion whatsoever. I’m so disgusted that I paid all this money to fly business class. Mind you I don’t even drink alcohol. I’m a very easy person to please, I took the flight from London to Las Vegas. There’s no privacy whatsoever and if you’re not from London, you’re not gonna get service they really cater to their London, citizens.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comprehensive comment (much of which we wouldn’t argue with) 👍
@martinpowell5769
@martinpowell5769 9 ай бұрын
Virgin is utter pants, sub standard airline 👎
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍
@roamaroundgisg7362
@roamaroundgisg7362 3 ай бұрын
The ugliest modern business class.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 2 ай бұрын
We’ve not done enough business class flying to make that judgement but we’re sure you’re right 😁👍
@roamaroundgisg7362
@roamaroundgisg7362 2 ай бұрын
@@visitwithus it is very claustrophobic and don't have enough privacy. They should have emulated Oman Air, Gulf Air or Korean Air for 787, or at least Philippine Airlines business class layout, which is far better. Virgin Atlantic should at least place their A330Neo layout to their 787. Their 787 is not worth the buck.
@housey4297
@housey4297 10 ай бұрын
Ive flown all versions of the Virgin Upper Class and this is the worst configuration in my view. I flew Retreat Suite on the 11th August to NYC and flew the 350-900 left hand side on return and I've done 787, older 330's and former 747 Upper Class. The current 350-Neo Upper Class is decent, but the quality of the build is dire and won't last. Doors don't shut easily, seatbelts temperamental and even their premier Retreat Suite rattled at first as anyone walked past and need to be 're-fitted' during a flight. 27" screens were great (Retreat) but to my point, the above config has had its day and the bar was good when it came out but doesn't work now and we found Premier Ecconomy in it when our air crew took a break so became a free to those who wanted it (the snug not the bar).
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences. We're actually quite keen to try the A350 Upper Class. I think the 789 cabin is a bit of a quirk, which we hope they rectified on the newer Airbus. :)
@housey4297
@housey4297 9 ай бұрын
@@visitwithusI flew the 350 to Las Vegas in January and back from NYC last month, both times in the left isle. I like the window facing seating on the left and right, preferring that to facing into the cabin or the central facing outwards into the cabin. The new 330-900 Neo, which I flew to NYC last month, was the new layout and that is 1 2 1 all facing forwards, with doors so you can get privacy and as a couple the central sections work really nicely. Just the build quality needs works and the seats are not that comfy, even in the retreat suite we flew in. Good content you're producing, thanks for taking the time.
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 9 ай бұрын
@@housey4297 Thanks for the info. I'll definitely check out the 330-900 Neo. You've left me intrigued! :D
@CD-uc7mc
@CD-uc7mc 8 ай бұрын
Extra Virgin
@visitwithus
@visitwithus 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 😊
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