Ups & Downs From Star Trek: Prodigy 1.6-10 - Kobayashi, First Con-tact, Time Amok & A Moral Star

Sean's back with all the Ups & Downs from the first half of season 1. And yes, a bumper Cetacean Observations.
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[@sandramangano6391]

I missed ups and downs so much, especially after Kobajashi Maru and Time Amok. Thanks for doing this!

[@paulbabcock2428]

Those were probably my two favs as well.

[@AzraelsTear]

I was sad when you guys stopped doing the weekly videos, I needed this. I have really enjoyed Prodigy, way more then I thought I would, and love to see the ups and downs!

[@duramirez]

Love your pfp ^^

[@AzraelsTear]

@@duramirez Thanks.

[@Batmanisbestpony]

Dal's solution to beating the Klingons in Kobiyashi, blasting Thunderstruck is very identical to the "Sabotage" scene from Star Trek Beyond.

[@tetravega567]

Still waiting for "Beam me down to the Paradise City, where the girls are green, and the grass is pretty."

[@kyletakemoto9628]

one up you missed. Dal's crazy chaotic plan...almost passed the Kobayashi Maru. if he hadn't stopped to kick his feet up, he would have won.

[@jhart6764]

Honestly, yeah. He actually almost beat the Kobayashi Maru. I love how in the end his own hubris was the only reason he failed at the last second. He has that potential for becoming one of the best captains in star fleet.

[@keit99]

​@@jhart6764and he didn't even need to cheat.

[@therizinosaurus214]

I loved in Kobayashi that Dal brushed aside Kirk stating he does not need two captains

[@GSBarlev]

Decker and Harriman screaming in the aether "WHY COULDN'T WE HAVE SAID THAT??"

[@therizinosaurus214]

@GSBarlev in Decker's case Kirk was an admiral and out ranked him. Harriman seemed inexperienced in having to solve problems with both hands tied behind his back.... seeing how man systems were not installed at the time.

[@TychoNorris]

I'm glad that you were able to find a compromise because there is a fan base for prodigy out there we may be small but we love the fact that you're able to give us what you can

[@bemasaberwyn55]

I see numerous older fans championing this show because it is SO ACCESSIBLE

[@someonebald2022]

In "kobayashi maru" Jenkin says he's lost count how many times Dal has failed, then adds "Just kidding, it's 42!". A nod to the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy, perhaps?

[@MichaelLlaneza]

Time Amok was pure gold. Rok-Tahk is an absolute legend after that.

[@jeffjones4654]

The little Caitian gets a big up.

[@catherineelmore2004]

An interview with the Hageman’s confirmed that the stardate in A Moral Star puts it in 2384. I’m so glad to see this video! And you were not the only one hit in the feels by Rok in Time Amok. She’s *so* good!

[@scythe0925]

ABOUT FREAKING TIME. Every week I kept scrubbing your videos looking for this!

[@JohnnyWednesday]

it's such a fantastic series! super credits to the team behind the CGI - it's a great style, it looks gorgeous - it feels very canon in the way it frames the shots - can't wait to see more!

[@beast1624]

AWESOME Ups & Downs! Totally agree with you on Prodigy. I have been VERY pleasantly surprised at how good it is so far. Can't wait for the 2nd half and can't wait for Discovery's return! Thank you so much for sharing!!

[@heartoffire5902]

Very happy you gave us this in batch form for the last few episodes. I didn't think we'd be getting anything.

[@Keither754]

It’s so good to have this series back!

[@jjose451]

I loved the audio quality. It accentuated who was speaking, by emphasizing some well known dialogue from deceased actors. Sure now we could recreate these with AI, but these were good touchstones for these actors.

[@TopHatJackStudios]

Ups and Downs for Prodigy! Hooray!

[@cutiebm]

I missed this so much.

[@salilbhatnagar]

Also, what a fantastic time for Star Trek that Kate Mulgrew is back! Star Trek Prodigy with Holo and Vice Admiral Janeway and Star Trek Online with her as Mirror Universe Marshall Janeway and Admiral Janeway!

[@tetravega567]

She got a Mirror counterpart? Niiiice!

[@anonymousvids2146]

Prodigy is my first time watching Star Trek, and I am absolutely becoming a trekie

[@wallbangerization]

Glad to have these back

[@RandyContello]

i enjoy the ups and downs so much. and this channel... im shocked that you guys dont have more people

[@VictorReynolds]

Thanks for sharing this great episode Seán! We missed you! I'm looking forward to future Prodigy episodes as Admiral Janeway ended "A Moral Star" Part 2 saying she was coming for Chakotay.

[@dpjjordan8147]

Honestly I'm blown away how good prodigy has been...Its like seeing trek from a completely new eyes.. Also time amok ...... Wow

[@sarahc3295]

I noticed in "Time Amok" (one of my favorites of Season 1)... when Dal's time period fracture is about to explode, Hologram Janeway goes over and kneels in front of him, taking his hand... just as Captain Janeway kneeled in front of Seven of Nine on the Delta Flyer in "Voyager Conspiracy" and taking her hand just before they beamed out.

[@kenwheeler3637]

I've really missed these videos. Always have looked forward to them. In fact I usually get and look for them right after watching the episode.

[@KougajiCalling]

I do the same thing! Well... Right after Setting a Course, anyway.

[@PassiveSmoking]

Dal screaming "Fire everything!" on the Enterprise D bridge, exactly like how the bad guy from the JJ Abrams Star Trek film did! And I think the mention of the real life Apollo 13 deserves a mention too.

[@Bargle5]

Yay! Glad to see you back with this!

[@karencarter18042]

I said it on the chat and will say it again Holo Janeway needs a down for her reaction to finding out the kids took the ship. She is portrayed as seeming to know the kids are not Starfleet but then is shocked when she found out the kids "stole" the Protostar. Also Good Job Sean

[@sarahc3295]

When Holo Janeway in "Time Amok" snaps her fingers to shut off Dal's video game... to me, that's such a "Mom Move" that I believe all mothers out there wish they had! 😂

[@xedalpha1]

Got to give the Dal up another up with hindsight. He went from a cocky, self obsessed kid to someone willing to die for his crew, who when told he'd not get into starfleet swore he'd do everything he could to make sure his crew DID. He had such organic character growth and it was brilliant.

[@Anon38251]

I was pretty skeptical for the first couple episodes, I'll admit. I'll also about, I'm now sold, I'm a Prodigy fan.

[@clueingforbeggs]

AAAAH! I'm so glad to see you doing this! I hadn't thought you'd do a bumper one. Thank you, I love this format and I'm glad to see this.

[@ronniemark3627]

Yes! Ups and Down Prodigy!!

[@LokiTheKhajiit]

Omg thank you thank you Sean and trekculture crew for more ups and downs for prodigy!

[@jjmfrees]

Dude the most recent episode had a log with stardate 61103.1clearly stated, so it is set in 2384.

[@wearwolf2500]

Episode 8 has a log with stardate 607125.6 which has too many digits so who knows

[@bemasaberwyn55]

The flashback is set on Stardate 43929.7. This is a day before Menage à Troi which was 43930.7...aka TNG season 3 as 17 years ago. Quick math from 2367 plus 17 is 2384

[@Arvyn992]

I loved the protostar warp drive

[@tarquinnff3]

The sound design on this show has given me chills no less than 3 times so far. Excellent work.

[@cosmicquestion9184]

Janeway will give the kids a promotion, but Harry Kim will never get one...

[@keit99]

Harry is captaining are starship somewhere but still officially an ensign at least that's my headcanon

[@chrisgurney2467]

Yes the Magnificent Maroon is the best Uniform :D

[@CaptainRyMM]

I thought that the audio quality was pretty on point, everytime I hear something from classic Spock it is ALWAYS old sounding. I not only like it, but the nostalgia is so big!

[@Sk8rToon]

I was a bit surprised though that they didn’t make his character “glitchy” to compensate for that & then it “cleared up” for the line stolen from the JJ film

[@kevinlaidlaw9753]

Missed the ups and downs so glad your back.

[@mastere6115]

Ngl, I didn't even notice 5 more episodes had dropped until I saw this video pop up, I thought perhaps it was like a rethink or som watched a little and it dawned on me that I hadn't seen what you were talking about, went back and checked and boom all 5 were there.... Idk why I thought half a season was only going to be 5 but hey, just finished binge watching them all just to be able to watch this after hahahaha

[@Nebagram]

If you like John Noble, I recommend watching Elementary, where he plays a so-so father.

[@CantankerousDave]

He plays a bad son in Sleepy Hollow.

[@mikefarrington7141]

About the uniforms... I don't think it was a Special Ops uniform, but rather a Cadet's uniform (no color to denote a specialization).

[@Sk8rToon]

Agreed. I feel like there was some cadet outfit that we’ve seen before that did this as well but I don’t recall where

[@The_Irish_Fox]

The producers said it’s like the racing uniform seen in voyager

[@JosephDickson]

I was so happy to see Robert Beltran return to Trek. 🖖😀

[@chasethevioletsun9996]

I would say that Lower Decks, and Generations before it, has now pretty much established that there isn't necessarily consistency in the uniforms across the whole fleet. Also, I suspect the Admiral Janeway scene is 17 years previous, and she's tracking the Protostar shortly after it was captured, and that is a misdirect (which would also mean at least Chakotay isn't still marooned in the Delta Quadrant).

[@thebronzedragon1]

based on what ive read it would seem that its based about five years after Voyager and a year and a half after lower decks but im not entirely sure

[@jasonwalker9471]

TOS and TNG didn't have consistency between uniforms either.

[@matthewkreps3352]

DS9 showed us that there was no consistency with uniforms either. Picard and Sisko were together in a room with different uniforms.

[@ennev]

So glad you’re back

[@DarkSapiens]

Ahhh I was missing these after every new Trek episode. Glad you did this!

[@GrumpusTheCat]

Thank you for bringing this back!

[@chrisstiverson9519]

They made reference to the Klingon proverb about revenge being a dish best served cold.

[@dayknight]

AHHHHH you're back... My kids loves you.

[@AndrewKarpyszyn]

You forgot John Noble as a poor father to Sherlock Holmes in Elementary.

[@TitanicTruths]

They did give an actual star date in one episode. That sets the time frame.

[@thedivinefemme5285]

Love that you guys made this. I missed having Up's and Down's for each episode!

[@GenuineMattyC]

I wish I could subscribe again and again and again! Love TrekCulture! LLAP

[@emmerich98]

If this is how we get ups and downs for prodigy I won't complain

[@doctormew9399]

Gives me time to catch up with it.

[@mightyb8679]

yassssssssss prodigy needs coverage, even just a summary :)

[@Darkcloudalpha]

For the record I missed the episode reviews =)

[@madrabbit9007]

You could likely do another 20 minute video just on the citation observations that you missed. Glad to see the ups and downs back for Prodigy even if it was condensed.

[@christiebatka4516]

Please keep doing videos for Prodigy. It's such a great Trek show. I will click, like, and share whatever you want to make it happen.

[@shaungratton]

You were missed sir!

[@ApolloRacer]

Possible that the Diviner needed to activate the weapon for it to work against the Federation? If he just let the kids take it there, maybe the weapon would be discovered before it reached Starfleet. Also, the credits put Janeway as a Vice-Admiral. I believe she was only a Rear Admiral in Nemesis, so yes, post-Picard might work.

[@bemasaberwyn55]

Stardates matter. This is set Stardate 6xxxxx therefore setting it a couple years after LDS is currently set

[@ehchagas]

But we did get a stardate in Moral Star II, Sean!

[@cjt217]

Thanks so much for staying with this! I'm out here commenting for algorithmic purposes. Bless you, TrekCulture

[@tracillacarroll6511]

I am SOOOOOOO excited! You just made my night - thank you so much for resuming Prodigy ups & downs - I'm loving the show and love you guys : )

[@terryolive3507]

Also the deviner states the way to destroy the federation is ….“ by arming a weapon already on the Protostar” ….makes me think the weapon is not automatic and would need to be activated somehow.

[@davvader]

Or that he planted it when he reached it and it was not on the protostar when our crew first boarded it.

[@chrisba1977]

Love these ups and downs and hope the keep coming.

[@AnnBearForFreedom]

What a fun headspace for an actor to be in: translate your character to being animated? Check. Translate your character to being an animated hologram? Ummm..check. And NOW translate your character to being from the future? ....Workin' on it! Repeat---what fun!

[@eoghanlacey6384]

Janeway isn’t from the future

[@AnnBearForFreedom]

@@eoghanlacey6384 So youve met her, I assume?

[@xedalpha1]

Yay! Please bring back Prodigy full time next time 😊

[@salilbhatnagar]

Ur back!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@LoyaFrostwind]

I loved the Kobayashi episode!

[@nicolaebreaban8154]

Prodigy is shaping up to be a nice series

[@alanfischer1948]

THANK YOU FOR THIS, SEAN!!!! :)

[@KnightRaymund]

Well he didn't know if they'd go to the Federation. But his plan was still nuts. So convinced they wouldn't listen or that they did it on purpose, or so driven by revenge, he concocts some convoluted plan to try and take down the entire Federation rather than just earn them not to make contact with his people. I agree that he was kind of a letdown overall. I get why you and many love the clips and such. To me, I'd rather just have new lines from living people rather than obvious clips from those that have passed. The audio is a little distracting tbh. But to each their own. And I imagine this was cheaper. The short term memory loss was kind of a copout, but it was a great effect on Zero showing that he accidentally hurt a friend.

[@rdfox76]

For the date issue, just look at the stardate given in A Moral Star. 604xx. Since TNG started, the stardates increase by 1000 per year in-universe. Given that TNG started with 41xxx in 2364, that would put Prodigy season 1 in 2383, slightly after Lower Decks.

[@Caitlinsculpts]

What about the fact Dal Beat the kobeashi Maru without cheating like Kirk did?

[@TrevorJNagy]

It's not cheating if you, change the rules and they give you a commendation for creative thinking.

[@bemasaberwyn55]

@@TrevorJNagy "In academic vernacular you cheated" 😉

[@jrmilestone]

I saw the Duty Uniforms as the Cadet Uniforms, as we've not seen them yet.

[@jamesleatherwood5125]

yay! i knew you did ups and downs for this! im glad you are back on prodigy!

[@dairedarcy1130]

And Sean, keep up the Irishisms! Loving it! Love it that feckers is now canon in Trek

[@spacecitizen6756]

I love prodigy. It so colourful and the writers are so creative.

[@RobertMcMurrer]

I hope we see other animated cameos from Voyager, DS9 or Next Generation.

[@williambell3304]

Are we sure that Caitian doesn't have some Kzinti in her? Lol

[@timdunn6489]

Like ups and downs, love cetacean observations 🖖

[@DarthLego46]

I’m really glad that you did this. I was sad that we wouldn’t get a cetacean ops on Kobyashi Maru. Thanks for revisiting it.

[@HomerNarr]

You're back on it! Fine! Financial restrictions are understood.

[@MrMann0123]

Bugger just came for Kobyashi. I'll come back once I've watched the rest. Go on yer self big man

[@dillonbuford]

Just binge watching the new episode before watching this video. I didn't realize there were new episodes. There is a checky line from Star Trek 2009.

[@davidturner3704]

Meanwhile at the TrekCulture Studio; -Okay lads, let's do an Ups & Downs for Prodigy. They dropped another preview for Picard. -Shite!

[@sean.ferrick]

This is terrifyingly accurate

[@eliotanders3488]

5:20 I think you missed something. My take was that somehow the Diviner wanted to take the Protostar into the past and release the weapon against the Federation before they make first contact with his people, therefore saving his civilization from the devastating civil war. Infecting the Federation in the present would solve anything, so he needed to find the ship to do it in the past.

[@benjackson8731]

I think the diviner has already come back, hence saying to Gwen that she could see it now. The protostar is probably the only ship fast enough to get out to the delta quadrant and back and destabilise the federation before first contact is made

[@KnightRaymund]

He already travelled to the past. Twice, I guess, because the Protostar has to have been sent to the past if it was sitting on the planet so long. The timeline is still messy. But in the present the planet is still fine. That's what he showed Gwyn.

[@Stress-Free-K]

You're Bleed'in Awesome Toooo!

[@jimmyryan5880]

I kept looking for this and here you are.

[@lorrelion1]

Regarding the timeline. There's a lot of reasons they might not have Protostar drive in Picard if this series is set before it. 1) maybe it's impractically expensive or complicated to mass produce to the point starfleet scraps the project 2) Maybe this virus gets some starfleet bureaucrat terrified and they decide to scrap the project 3) Maybe having a star inside your ship isn't really safe (example: what if it explodes in a populated solar system?) 4) Maybe there's another plot reason that hasn't been explored There's an infinite number of reasons the protostar project could be scrapped or seen as too dangerous or what have you. Example: Why doesn't every ship in Picard have slipstream drive? Because benamite is rare. The uniforms on the dauntless look kinda TNG meets lower decks, and we know the captain can customize uniforms a little bit. So I'm guessing the 2380s. Wiki says 2383. The wrench in my argument is all the alpha quadrant aliens there. Though you mentioned the idea of a space race. Space travel has always been really slow in startrek, so I can imagine everyone and their mothers wanting to make something faster. Espeically considering slipstream drives show that it's possible. Unfortunately the most likely answer is that the show is suppose to introduce people to star trek and those are common startrek aliens. Which is a disappointing answer. hopefully we get a better one.

[@BowChickaHonkHonk1]

SPOILER for end of the season: Looking back at this comment now, "Not enough Chakotay"... welp, the editing on this season was so tight. What is Chakotay's line? He's in the future, the plan to escape has failed. He laughs, he sighs, he smiles, and in half a second he sends the ship and strands himself in a prison lost in space and time forever, for duty. Absolutely FANTASTIC sigh and animation. Told me his entire story in one breath. Why use more? Straight from the Harrison Ford school of acting.

[@gage2925]

Im so happy that this is here. I was very bummed when it wasnt coming out weekly. I thought it was gone. I can live with non weekly.

[@flermurmurjumjum765]

Discovery is where they dropped the ball concerning 'the Burn'. Ignoring Transwarp, Slipstream, Protostar

[@CaptainJonathan]

Right? Would they even be using dilithium past the 25th century?

[@wyndblayde6103]

Dilithium could still be used in those drives, dilithium is not a power source, its used to control the energy produced by a power source. That could apply to warp, transwarp and proto drive.

[@CaptainJonathan]

@@wyndblayde6103 Still it would seem that matter-antimatter reactions would not produce enough power by then. But perhaps those drives are more efficient.

[@tetravega567]

@@wyndblayde6103 This. Dilithium crystals are only the combustion chamber for the matter/antimatter reaction. Matter/Antimatter get injected into the spaces between the crystal lattice structure.

[@Brannen666]

Glad you guys are back. It got to be a down when your Villian would have won by doing nothing.

[@steviemooreproductions4312]

I’m loving this show!! I know the characters are more focused towards Children, but there’s enough stuff aimed towards us adults, too! Brilliant!

[@Chronix-]

Why is he confused as to when the series is set? Janeway says the stardate in two different episodes. The first mention in time amok was 60xxx.x and the second mention in moral star 2 was 611xx.x. that would put it at 5-6 years after voyager and 2-3 years past lower decks.

[@bemasaberwyn55]

Also the 17 years flashback takes place literally 24 hours before William Riker, Deanna Troi and her mother are captured by a Ferengi Dai-Mon

[@Chronix-]

@@bemasaberwyn55 no shit! Haha, cool.

[@nomnomgoblin8901]

They kinda beat around the bush about it for the most part but... Time travel shenanigans.

[@TheAnalyticalEngine]

John Noble also played a pretty poor father in _Elementary_

[@carlmiller757]

And a REALLY bad son in Sleepy Hollow

[@leebog1914]

On point this week.