Upscaling Face-Off: PS5 Pro PSSR vs PC DLSS/FSR 3.1 in Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart

[@Chasm9]

For a first iteration that consumers will have access to this is an impressive showing for PSSR. No other upscaler looked this good on launch. This means they are doing the basic things right.

[@drasyte7017]

XESS was looking really good at launch aswell

[@gothpunkboy89]

@@drasyte7017 For the games it could run on. There was a lot of issues with Intel GPUs at launch.

[@Reason4Termination]

That is the peak of it. Won't get any better. AMD sucks ass

[@drasyte7017]

@@gothpunkboy89 yeah but the issues was drivers and gpus, the upscaling tech was really good

[@leonfrancis3418]

This is as good as it gets for this version of PSSR on PS5 Pro, so I would hope it launches well.

[@desmond3245]

UE5 game devs seeing PSSR results: now we can lower the base resolution further to 480p and upscale it to 4K.

[@justfun5479]

😂😂😂

[@robertlawrence9000]

💀

[@tangiblemammal5273]

720p should be the lowest and work their way up for ue5 if its open world.

[@Sideways_Singh]

I dont think the base console is getting PSSR only the PRO

[@sanji663]

@@tangiblemammal5273 1080*

[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

Excellent comparisons! Seems like for now: DLSS3 > PSSR > XeSS >> FSR3. Considering this is the 1st iteration of PSSR, it's extremely impressive!!

[@HydraCFW]

More like XESS = PSSR

[@Dark-qx8rk]

@@HydraCFW PSSR looks better than XeSS as can be seen @15:37. PSSR is definitely going to give DLSS a run for it's money.

[@BroHazeman]

Yup, I'm Nintendo fans and I think $700 PS5 Pro is worth it

[@bnl-v6j]

Sony bringt Gaming immer ein Stück nach vorne ❤

[@lutzchen9887]

​@@Dark-qx8rkkeep in mind that XeSS 1.3 Quality is the same scaling factor as DLSS/FSR Balanced so it's apples to oranges to a certain degree.

[@Alexand3ry]

One factor not mentioned here is that Ratchet & Clank was almost certainly a core part of the training data for PSSR. We've heard from devs that PSSR was tweaked over the last year or so to perform better on the games being prepared for the Pro launch. PSSR has made an impressive start in the games it was trained on: it will be interesting to see how that extrapolates into third party games converted later.

[@reelroyalevizion800]

It’s had an update since the Pro’s announcement so it’ll be even better on launch day. With nearly 3 weeks to go it may receive another update.

[@djpep94]

Really fascinating point I look forward to see how well this is implemented in 3rd party titles

[@venix6473]

​@@djpep94It's already implemented in Drago Dogma and according to Oliver the results are great

[@Alexand3ry]

@@venix6473 Encouraging! That was a game that needed it, too

[@ReachTea]

The FSR fizzle is so bad 💀

[@eriuz]

pssr is FSR4

[@wanshurst2416]

when you don't zoom in 300 % and play the game normally you probably don't even see/recognize it. fsr always has a problem with fizzle around your playermodels for example BUT when i play the game i don't even see it. you have to actively concentrate and look at edges to be able to see it. you basically have to want to see it....

[@chasethechosenone8478]

@@eriuzpssr is a million times better

[@colossusrageblack]

It's poo poo. I switched back to Nvidia because of it.

[@dripfoe_3307]

​@@wanshurst2416 True but this video is centered around pointing out the differences.

[@nightowl3582]

Seems to be holding its own against DLSS in its first iteration. No reason to use FSR going forward on PS5 Pro enhanced titles.

[@christonchev9762]

tho most of the PS5 users won't buy a PS5 Pro so they have to deal with FSR

[@wanshurst2416]

i think games HAVE TO use PSSR in order to get the "ps5pro enhanced badge"

[@weaverquest]

Also no reason to use any other upscaling method in general like TSR or TAAU. It's going to be great for titles like Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth where the game's own anti-aliasing and upscaling solution looks pretty bad. Honestly one of the best things about these machine learning based upscaling solutions is that they are replacing TAA as the anti-aliasing solution which added a lot of blur to games.

[@ElectroMikeify]

Unless you need frame gen

[@sergeesteves]

The DLSS remains well above, and for the FSR, this test has many caveats. But above all, it only concerns one PlayStation game. And that's where I'm going with this. Video game studios are pragmatic and choose technologies that allow them to reach the greatest number of players. DLSS (nvida specific) and FSR (no hardware specific) are compatible with multiple platforms, including PC and Xbox consoles (fsr). We already know that the adoption of the PS5 pro will be very low, so this will dissuade developers from investing time and resources in technology compatible with very few hardware. Additionally, developers don't always optimize for dlss or fsr, which have a wide range of compatible hardware, it's not like developers have unlimited resources. Why would he do it for a technology that is even less used than the last two ? The DLSS remains well above in terms of quality with a great experience and the FSR continues to make great progress, the PSSR, a freshly new sampling technology, we haven't seen anything really concrete apart from Sony's marketing videos which must be taken with a grain of salt. I really don't see how the PSSR is going to be able to infiltrate all of this!

[@robertcarr4172]

Still cannot believe how stunning R&C is. Looks like a movie you can control

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

It's a very gorgeous game and is super fun to play. Wish Insomniac would've worked on another R&C game over Spider-Man 2 or Wolverine personally.

[@cristi8183]

PSSR is an awesome feature added to PS5 Pro! 🤘🏻

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

This is just the foundation being laid for it on the PS5 Pro. The PS6 will have a full proper version of PSSR included in it. I can't wait to see what games developed for the PS6 will look like thanks to PSSR.

[@MrInuhanyou123]

Really impressive considering it's PSSRs debut. They have said they will be improving and updating the technology as time goes on too and so there is a lot of leeway in how the games will improve

[@kaptenteo]

It's impressive how the first release of PSSR seems to be significantly better than the *third* iteration of FSR.

[@bladebk5537]

Maybe because FSR is a software non AI solution and PSSR was developed with the lessons from FSR, it’s on par with XeSS

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

Mark Cerny is a skilled professional with decades of experience building hardware and software for gaming. Never underestimate him and his team.

[@bladebk5537]

@@ThwipThwipBoom indeed he should get some actual next gen projects to work on and not mediocre mid gen updates.

[@kaptenteo]

@@ThwipThwipBoom Sure, they have good people working on it, but it's not like AMD is new to the market, either. It's impressive, like I said.

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

@@bladebk5537 I imagine the PS6 will likely be the final generation he will work on as he is currently 60.

[@denisruskin348]

The era or FSR is hopefully finally gone, well, at least on the Pro model. Quite insane for a 1.0 version. No one was expecting it to beat DLSS but it isn´t that far and that software has years of advantage on the field. Well done, Sony.

[@vicveco]

Why do Sony fanboys think Sony achieved this alone? They used all the experience from AMD with FSR. I think software-based upscaling hit its limit, so now FSR4 will be hardware-based. It's not going anywhere, as you say.

[@dialmightyspartangod6717]

@@vicvecoyou know Sony TVs have had upscaling solutions for like 15 years right for image reconstruction at lower resolution right? Edit: when it comes to gaming Sony has been doing image processing solutions since PlayStation 2. Example: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

[@kenziemac130]

Still using FSR 3 as a RTX 3080 owner desperate for frame gen... 😢

[@theanimerapper6351]

I'm glad PlayStation fans get to have their own version of dlss. Been screaming from the rooftops that this kind of ai upscaling is magic

[@Scorpwind]

It's not magic lol. The image clarity is horrendous.

[@bluack123]

​@@ScorpwindHorrendous? Maybe if you're starting from 1080p but from 4k or 1440p it's amazing. The only "Horrendous" upscaler is FSR and even that isn't horrendous these days. Image quality is superb and often better than native in many titles because TAA IS horrendous.

[@blessedred]

Well done, Alex. This video does a good job highlighting the strengths and weaknesses of PSSR. It being an upgrade in almost every aspect vs FSR is very good. I'd like to see how it compares to XeSS or TSR more once we see it in more games. I wonder who will win out of that bunch of upscalers.

[@chasethechosenone8478]

Obviously pssr is behind dlss not everyone but sometimes so that should tell you that its second best

[@Jean_Christhian]

@@chasethechosenone8478 honestly, if over time they manage to get PSSR close to dlss 2.0. That would be enough for me. Anyway, I believe that this is not the maximum potential of PSSR yet, studios will master the tool better over time and Sony and AMD themselves should update it as much as possible. The good thing about this is that the next generation of PlayStation will already have this technology good enough to be very close to DLSS.

[@chasethechosenone8478]

@@Jean_Christhian I agree

[@riceeater79]

Yes and no. He used what I see as the worst implementation of PSSR we've seen so far. What Alex sucessfully showed us was how much better DLSS is in THIS specific game...NOT PSSR's measurement vs DLSS. We have better more demanding games for both PC and console that would have been better for this test like Hogwarts or Dragons Dogma 2

[@215Roach973]

@@riceeater79 PSSR is not better than DLSS in any iteration and I doubt it ever will be. May come close with the PS6, but DLSS will always have the advantage

[@brunomiiguel]

For what is essentially a 1.0 version this is pretty good. Surely they will update it over time

[@randyrrs7028]

Yes i can imagine the PS6 will have PSSR 2.0 + frame gen equivalent

[@MrInuhanyou123]

They have said they will

[@systemx6603]

Considering this type of scaling has been out there for years it's kind of ridiculous to be impressed by a "1.0 version", this stuff isn't new, it would have been a total joke if it wasn't any good.

[@MrInuhanyou123]

@@systemx6603 that's nonsense. Algorithms like this are trained on information in the exact same way as things like DLSS and XeSS. So just as those have made improvements in the years since their debut PSSR also will. The impressive thing is that because it's starting at a good point it will become even better with time. The argument from detractors for PSSR before it was shown off was that it would suck because DLSS had years to improve and tons of investment. And now that it's shown to be in a good spot at the start although with room for improvement suddenly the argument is that it doesn't matter? It's just a bad faith agenda based argument

[@systemx6603]

@@MrInuhanyou123 You people are such simps, the point is these billion dollar corporations DID have years to work on this stuff at this point, it's not impressive that it's half decent, this is the bare minimum.

[@Manupaya24]

I regret you guys are not calling it "pisser" anymore :(

[@Unprotected1232]

It's still piss'r in my heart.

[@Chasm9]

because they are not 9 years old

[@monsieurlazer48]

This is a 'formal' video, whereas the DF weeklies are like a podcast-style shooting the breeze, with chosen topics so a bit more informal.

[@MrKnaives]

They can't do that in a video. It's unprofessional, but they can call it that in the podcast.

[@amnril]

Because PSSR it’s no longer seen as a joke, PSSR is pretty impressive, as is the PS5 PRO that is looking more and more like a decent mid Gen refresh.

[@sabakunovedo]

PSSR is a game-changing addition for PS hardware. Awesome stuff. 🔥🔥🔥

[@antwango]

a reason why sony is proud to call it pisser! they were proud enough to put their name on it and endorse it going forward

[@TheDiabloZero]

FSR is definitely the worst, DLSS is clearly the best, and PSSR is a bit below DLSS.Considering that it is a relatively new technology it is not bad at all, it just needs time to improve.We are seeing that these rescaling technologies will be present for a long time in the future of gaming.

[@manoftherainshorts9075]

I'd say it's significantly below

[@DanKaschel]

"a bit below" is pretty generous to PSSR but I generally agree. The most important thing is that PSSR is completely acceptable which for me was not the case for FSR.

[@christonchev9762]

question is if X game uses PSSR to reach 60 fps on consoles what will be thefps on PC when there is no PSSR on PC and we use DLCC/FSR

[@reelroyalevizion800]

They don’t have the system…. Off of capture video? “It’s a bit too early to…” then why do it?

[@Angel-Azrael]

PSSR is no match for DLSS and will never be, at least on PS5 Pro. It's hardware based upscaling.

[@OneLife69-]

I think more people will notice a difference between PSSR vs. FSR, then they will PSSR vs. DLSS. This is truly an impressive bit of tech from Sony.😊

[@waltuhputurdaway]

Well duh. Because FSR and PSSR run in completely different ways

[@OneLife69-]

@waltuhputurdaway yes they do, well done. The point is nobody expected PSSR to be THIS good at it's launch..

[@05Upper]

Warframe will have support for PSSR on PS5 Pro launch, would be interesting to see all technologies compared on a fast paced game

[@Luke973T]

Nice. Can't wait to see the update for that game. I hope that dying light 2 and returnal gets it as well.

[@pluggedingaming8169]

Having Pisser launch in such a decent state hopefully bodes well 🤞

[@fenixa2z936]

Disocclusion fizzle: exists Me: Oh, I thought it was supposed to look like that. 😅

[@The_Affable_Grump]

It’s certainly a decent improvement over current console upscaling methods. I think we have to remember with deep learning techniques of this kind, it’s very much about the improvements that come through iteration. At the moment we’re comparing v3.7 of DLSS, v3.1 of FSR to a pre-release version of PSSR so it would have perhaps been more useful to have seen how v1.0 of the three technologies compare to get benchmark of all three. Perhaps that isn’t possible with this game and this is still interesting to see anyway.

[@RCmies]

This just made me realise how bad FSR is

[@HeroVax]

In the coming years, PSSR will be improved and might be the same level of performance as DLSS. This is HUGE!

[@KainSwiss]

I agree! Total game changer

[@slyseal2091]

look at you, so young and inexperienced with what AI upscalers do to optimisation efforts. Where have the years gone?

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

@@slyseal2091 Look at you, so old and jaded by the years. Where has your youth and optimism gone gramps? Can you feel death and old age breathing down your neck? How much time do you have left? Best use what little time you still have before the reaper claims you by doing something meaningful and useful.

[@tangiblemammal5273]

In the coming years super dlss should come out though

[@tangiblemammal5273]

​@ThwipThwipBoom Everything is a waste of time if u think about it

[@eruannster]

Very impressive and interesting stuff. I didn't expect PSSR to be immediately better than DLSS, but it looks about 80-90% as good (depending on the situation) which is pretty great for a first version. And it's a huge improvement on FSR, which is way worse and is a lot worse in games with lower internal resolutions (those games running at like 720p or 892p and upscaling to 4K w/ FSR this generation look like absolute ass).

[@yasminesteinbauer8565]

Well, it's now well known how to do this. Intel also did it very well right from the start.

[@DanKaschel]

​@@yasminesteinbauer8565I found XeSS significantly less convincing

[@yasminesteinbauer8565]

@@DanKaschel I am talking about the XMX version. The DP4a version is of course not as good.

[@DanKaschel]

@@yasminesteinbauer8565 as was I

[@scoty3434]

DLSS is accelerated by software and PSSR Is accelerated by hardware, what i Saw there Is the PSSR tech from Sony Is better than FSR 3 with visual image and in some point PSSR manage to surpass DLSS at max settings in some áreas but is more unstable and that is impresive by this new Sony tech , is just a bit below of DLSS nothing more and this is just the beggining of the Sony s tech here, nvidia DLSS at first and Sony PSSR on second place , not Bad for a Sony tech from the beggining with the PS6 ahead in 4 more years , PSSR Is GONNA improve a Lot

[@DrezzyEFTP]

Can't wait for November 7th

[@xperience-evolution]

Very impressive what PSSR can do at a first release. Way better than what dlss and fsr did. In 3 to 4 years the PS6 will profit massively from it.

[@joseijosei]

No first implementation of a tech is perfect, and the same happened with AI Frame Generation or even ray tracing itself for that matter, but if you believe that those who invented these things (Nvidia) are going to fall behind, you're crazy. They will always be ahead.

[@Monster-Abee]

You do know it's a form of fsr right about to be released on the new amd cards?

[@JohnDoe-si4eg]

@@joseijoseiI don’t think anyone ever believes nvidia will fall behind. Despite already having market dominance they still continue to push new features to an extremely competent degree.

[@randyrrs7028]

Yes i can imagine the PS6 will have PSSR 2.0 + frame gen equivalent

[@darkkingastos4369]

@@JohnDoe-si4eg Nvidia will be a little ahead for awhile, but diminishing returns will make all this equal out in a few years and in a few generations I'd wager ray tracing and rastor will become one in the same.

[@Owen-uk3sj]

FSR (Fizzle Super Resolution)

[@eriuz]

yeah but the good news PSSR is FSR4

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

@@eriuz No it is not. Sony developed PSSR, not AMD. If PSSR was simply FSR4, AMD would have talked about it. They did not.

[@JayUEVR]

@@Dr.WhetFarts The commenter is not being literal. You must be one of those Americans that can't understand a joke or sarcasm. It was an analogy. And FYI, an analogy can be delivered as a joke or sarcasm, in case you need to know, literally.

[@pluggedingaming8169]

I find high temporal stability to be much more pleasing to the eye than artefact riddled high pixel density.

[@zhazhahou]

This video is fantastic for me, really enjoy to learn the insights of upscaling technologies

[@ccallaghan84]

Just a friendly reminder for viewers, take DFs opinions with the knowledge that theyve receieved exclusive access to nvidia stuff in the past. Nvidia, for those who dont know, only does this woth favorable influencers and tends to block those who dont produce favorable content. Theres a relationship there. They chose this game, these scenes, and such intentionally which may have been influenced (or may not) by the known outcomes prior to. As someone who uses dlss, this game is more favorable to dlss than most of the games. I can name half a dozen games where dlss shows the same artifacts and issues that they highlight as a negative for anything other than dlss here. Take that knowledge however you wish.

[@riceeater79]

BOOM! Someone finally sees the manipulation and cherry picking on display. Alex picked the worst implementation of PSSR we'veseen so far I guess. You may have forgot but DF themselves already showed the BASE PS5 quality mode looks superior to THIS specific PSSR implementation on RnC. Note, NONE of the other highlighted PSSR implementations showed worse results than base PS5s Quality mode...save RnC!!! There are far more demanding games that have worse image quality (at lower base res like Alex CLAIMED hed like to see? ) where PSSR was implemented and drastically improved the image quality even compared to PS5 quality mode that he bypassed (Dragoon Dogma 2 & Hogwarts) to test the worst implementation of PSSR available vs DLSS.

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

Just remember everyone, this is the worst PSSR is ever going to look. We're at the very start of the AI boom right now. PSSR is only going to get better and better over time.

[@aaa4181]

You don’t know that, you assume that. Remember this is Insomniac, not all developers will utilize it well.

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

@@aaa4181 I'm not assuming anything, it is the nature of technology to get better as time progresses. PSSR will naturally be improved upon over the generations. I'm a realist, not a pessimist like you.

[@aaa4181]

@@ThwipThwipBoom lol “realist” ok little bud, keep falling for Sony’s lies and buy the same console again.

[@riceeater79]

Not only that Other than Alex picked the worst implementation of PSSR we've seen so far. You may have forgot but DF themselves already showed the BASE PS5 quality mode looks superior to THIS specific PSSR implementation on RnC. Note, NONE of the other highlighted PSSR implementations showed worse results than base PS5s Quality mode...save RnC!!! There are far more demanding games that have worse image quality (at lower base res like Alex CLAIMED hed like to see) where PSSR was implemented and drastically improved the image quality even compared to PS5 quality mode that he bypassed (Dragoon Dogma 2 & Hogwarts) to test the worst implementation of PSSR avaliable vs DLSS.

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

@@aaa4181 _"lol “realist” ok little bud, keep falling for Sony’s lies and buy the same console again."_ - 🤡

[@HappyHubris]

Excellent content! Your attention to detail is impressive. It's great to see technology (selectively) move forward.

[@oppa1319]

It will be of DLSS quality by the PS6 generation. Glad it’s already better than the other scalers.

[@leonfrancis3418]

It will be current gen DLSS quality by the PS6. By then, DLSS will already have been upgraded, so it'll still be worse.

[@KainSwiss]

This is better than I initially thought. Great comparison and attention to detail

[@SteveJonesOwnsDSP]

PS5 Pro beats out the base PS5 on games that use FSR -- hands down.

[@jmtradbr]

FSR being able to work in super old hardware also makes it very limited in his quality. I hope the rumor that FSR 4 is going to be AI based makes the quality much better.

[@thenobleyouthofmadness55]

I think you should do this same comparison for third party titles ..... as those are the games where these upscaling solution pushed to their limits...like .Hogwart's legacy or DD2.

[@riceeater79]

Exactly! And on that note Alex exposes himself as disingenuous. Alex ONLY picked RnC because it's the worst implementation of PSSR we've seen. His pick is honestly nonsensical because It has the LEAST graphical issues at the highest base resolution or any game he could test. So why this title? You may have forgot but DF themselves already showed the BASE PS5 quality mode looks superior to THIS specific PSSR implementation on RnC. Note, NONE of the other highlighted PSSR implementations showed worse results than base PS5 in Quality mode...save RnC!!! More demanding games with significantly worse image quality issues (at lower base res like Alex CLAIMED hed like to see) DF themselves already covered for PSSR in stand alone videos and it drastically improved the image quality even compared to PS5 quality mode (Dragoon Dogma 2 & Hogwarts) but Alex bypassed on those LOWER INTERAL RESOLUTION options to test the worst implementation of PSSR where even the base PS5 quality mode is noticeable better!

[@thenobleyouthofmadness55]

@@riceeater79 Yeah , RnC did not have the best implementation of PSSR (though it already have great IQ in base ps5) and putting the same game to compare against the like of DLSS is a stretch too far for PSSR , for now at least.....something like Alan wake 2 ,TLOU Part1 or DD2 might have been better comparison as their implementation of PSSR as noted by oliver looks quite good as compared to RnC.

[@Atum1c]

The pro shaping up to be a W

[@JackJohnson-br4qr]

I love how everyone is spitting on FSR now, yet every Nvidia owner with an older GPU and Steam deck owners use FSR everyday and can't practically live without it. Also everyone mandate the PS5 to be 60 FPS console, but they don't know how to achieve that without upscaling. The only reason why they can use it in the first place is that FSR works on every HW. And that's also the main reason why it can't be as good as DLSS. So they actually hate FSR for allowing them to use any upscaling technology at all? Good schizophrenia.

[@Luke973T]

This is a lie. Dlss works on 3000 series cards. I use it with my 3070 and when I test out fsr it looks terrible by comparison most of the time. Many people complained about blurry games on consoles over the last few years they just had no idea that it was fsr causing it. I just explained a.i. to my cousin and he was blown away.

[@mondodimotori]

@@Luke973T He mant older than that... Wich, based on steam hardware survey, are still A LOT OF PEOPLE. So yeah...

[@faber3969]

I get what you mean but XeSS is hardware agnostic as well and performs much better than FSR. The fact that some people don't mind playing poorly upscaled games full of artifacting is irrelevant.

[@Luke973T]

@mondodimotori no he edited the comment. When I responded he said everyone that doesn't have a 4000 series. A lot of people have 3060s/3000 series.

[@alexatkin]

Except that's not true as only Frame Generation & Ray Reconstruction are limited to 4000 series, upscaling works on all RTX cards.

[@grynadevilgearxd2442]

The funny thing is base PS5 aren't even useing FSR 3.1.

[@evgenyyurichev]

Cyberpunk 2077 please...

[@aaa4181]

Is not PS5 Pro enhanced bud…

[@jonathanhayhurst3928]

I know it sounds silly, but the confetti just looks infinitely better with PSSR

[@PlayinWithGhosts]

4090 user here. I'm so stoked for PS5 Pro folks. Y'all are in for a treat. Shit, I even pre-ordered one since I'm really curious to see what Demon's Souls looks like with PSSR. Rise of the Ronin too.

[@TABSF1]

DLSS still the gold standard. Would've been interesting to see DLAA comparison!

[@opinali]

Very interesting, but every time Alex tech-reviews R&C we learn of more issues with this game engine-its integration with ALL upscalers is poor. Even DLSS performs below its usual in several scenes; the problem with static grass apparently having bad motion vectors is embarrassing. And FSR 3.1 is still much less forgiving about input quality than the AI upscalers do, FSR goes downhill if anything is missing motion vectors, or the two extra masks that only FSR requires. Hopefully after the PS5 Pro is released DF can compare better games such as GoW:Ragnarök which has excellent FSR 3.1 integration.

[@LegacyRap7777]

Make your own then, oh wait yeah you cant, you're just a consumer that complains about everything

[@12coco100]

​@@LegacyRap7777 He's not wrong many developers implement upscalers in a bad way. Players find out by modding in community created fsr versions. End up looking better then the developers effort. For example look at Cyberpunk 2.13 update for fsr 3, yep not fsr 3.1 but fsr 3 with frame gen completely broken and unusable. I had to mod in frame generation to play the game.

[@JohnDoe-si4eg]

Looking forward to when we can see its implementation in other games and compare that as well.

[@Gustaviustwinkelberry]

DLSS has bad implementations even in heavily nvidia sponsored games like black myth wukong, nvidia doesn't care😂😂😂😂

[@riceeater79]

You may have forgot but DF themselves already showed the BASE PS5 quality mode looks superior to THIS specific PSSR implementation on RnC. Note, NONE of the other highlighted PSSR implementations showed worse results than base PS5s Quality mode...save RnC!!! There are far more demanding games that have worse image quality (at lower base res like Alex CLAIMED hed like to see) where PSSR was implemented and drastically improved the image quality even compared to PS5 quality mode that he bypassed (Dragoon Dogma 2 & Hogwarts) to test the worst implementation of PSSR he could find vs DLSS.

[@pse2020]

how many videos have u guys been doing on a product that has yet to come out?

[@Rubik43]

wow I didn't expect the pssr to be (slightly) better even than the XeSS, however for this internal resolution it's pixel peeping, the final result between DLSS and PSSR is indistinguishable to the naked eye, we'll see how it will be at 1080p, I don't think the pro will ever go under given its gpu.

[@riceeater79]

Furthermore Alex chose the worst implementation of PSSR we'veseen so far. You may have forgot but DF themselves already showed the BASE PS5 quality mode looks superior to THIS specific PSSR implementation on RnC. Note, NONE of the other highlighted PSSR implementations showed worse results than base PS5s Quality mode!!! There are far more worse quality higher demanding games (at lower base res like Alex CLAIMED hed like to see) where PSSR was implemented and resolved drastic improvements to image quality even compared to quality mode that he bypassed (Dragoon Dogma 2 & Hogwarts) to test the worst implementation of PSSR he could find vs DLSS.

[@Rubik43]

@@riceeater79 Wow I see some dissing here, yes indeed I remember that R&C + PSSR is worse than the quality mode on the base, but let's remember that this is probably the most optimized game on this console together with demon souls, also it is normal that maybe they did not invest the best possible resources to update it to the pro version. Anyway the base game is more or less the same so the comparison still makes sense, yes you have to guess the settings and especially the resolution (almost certainly here and there it was wrong) but I wouldn't make it too dramatic.

[@kayser91]

Thank you for this first show of pssr vs other technologies 😊

[@Tomb-G19]

The future is upscaling....

[@Monster-Abee]

Not on my watch. 😂

[@Shahzad12357]

​@@Monster-Abee watchu gonna do CRY?

[@urmomma2688]

​@@Monster-Abeeoh no... Anyway

[@Gribbous]

Really impressive. Especially for a 1st Gen product.

[@Youtube-Censorship-Police]

can we all appreciate the thoughtful effort alex has put into this comparison? videos like these are the reason why df is the best gaming tech channel👌

[@riceeater79]

Choosing the worst implementation of PSSR he could choose from isn't praiseworthy IMO. You may have forgot but they even showed BASE PS5 performance mode looks superior to THIS specific PSSR implementation There are far more impressive and or demanding games where we have PSSR implemented which resolved drastic alterations to image quality that he bypassed (Dragoon Dogma 2 & Hogwarts) to test the worst implementation.

[@jesseshaver2262]

Honestly seems like the best way to play ratchet on the pro will be fidelity mode unlocked

[@Phelaidar]

DF is making a better job at promoting the small upgrades on PS5Pro as stand out features than Sony

[@riceeater79]

Lol this was NOT a promotion video for PS5 Pro. This was a PC master race DLSS is better than PSSR promotion video. I don't understand how you could have missed that especially knowing the guy conducting this test.

[@DrezzyEFTP]

​@riceeater79 you do realize they got invited to Japan to see it in action right? in their recent videos, they basically gave Sony props and letting you know it will be a game changer

[@justdointhisforthegames]

​@@riceeater79 i mean, a little of column a, a little of column b. It makes PSSR look better than Sony did, but it seems like a lowkey Nvidia ad.

[@Phelaidar]

Given that pssr is similar to dlss on a console, it is promoting ps5pro. Stop with that masterrace bs.

[@FTVIRAL]

​@@PhelaidarDoes it bother you? Are you going to cry?

[@ItsAkile]

Greta look Alex, one thing we can say is that the consumer bickering has lead to a win for gamers. no more FSR moving forward for PS gamers. I'm truly impressed but I believe some of these implementaions are definately half baked. like you said, its lower resolution we are interested in for comparisons sake. I'm a bit shocked that more of these implementaions arent going for 1080p out the gate on the Pro console as it tends to be enough for a convincing resolve and can let them crank more settings.

[@DeeBatch]

Great Video Alex. IMHO this great for new tech out the gate. PSSR will only get better with time.

[@Norgatron]

When’s Xbox gunna make a next gen machine 😂😂😂

[@DeeBatch]

@@Norgatron 2026-2027

[@DeeBatch]

@@Michael-jr3gz you clearly don't watch my stuff. I gave psvr2 a good review. I gave the portal a good review. I always said the PS had better exclusives and Xbox needs to match. Just play games man

[@Michael-jr3gz]

@@DeeBatch it'll have worse 3rd party support than PS5 😂😂😂

[@mattevanst4967]

Awesome stuff, been waiting for a comparison between latest FSR, PSSR and DLSS ever since the Pro reveal. Always fascinating to see the differences, pros & cons. Thanks Alex!

[@shyff2188]

Read that « awesome stuff » in Rich voice

[@riceeater79]

Other than Alex picking the worst implementation of PSSR we'veseen so far I guess. You may have forgot but DF themselves already showed the BASE PS5 quality mode looks superior to THIS specific PSSR implementation on RnC. Note, NONE of the other highlighted PSSR implementations showed worse results than base PS5s Quality mode...save RnC!!! There are far more demanding games that have worse image quality (at lower base res like Alex CLAIMED hed like to see) where PSSR was implemented and drastically improved the image quality even compared to PS5 quality mode that he bypassed (Dragoon Dogma 2 & Hogwarts) to test the worst implementation of PSSR he could find vs DLSS.

[@waltuhputurdaway]

​​@@riceeater79keep yapping and copy and pasting buddy

[@R4K1B-]

FSR is such a low bar. Everything is better than it. TSR, XeSS, DLSS. No wonder Playstation ditched it for PSSR

[@metroplex29]

Pssr is fsr4, fyi...

[@lawnmanGman]

@@metroplex29 no it isnt, go read patent docs, man you pc gamers are dense

[@CrypticWritings89]

And it's worse than even other pure software upscalers, which is inexcusable.

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

@@metroplex29 PSSR is not FSR4. Sony developed PSSR in house. Stop spreading misinformation and read patent.

[@Damn_Smooth]

​@@metroplex29Tell us you know nothing without telling us.

[@8bitpro85]

Amazing how a month ago the ps5 pro went from $700?! Thats madness! To wow, PSSR is pretty damn good.

[@PTDgroove]

I'm waiting for the Universal Sampling Super Resolution.

[@offroadskater]

I don't think we'll be lucky to be back in that any time soon.

[@BeersYourFriend]

PSSR is better than FSR. Got it.

[@Randy28CR]

PSSR is a good first step in the right direction. Those comparing it to DLSS directly (mostly fanboys) are absolutely insane.

[@phillippinoFLASH]

Agreed. This is Sonys first implementation of the tech VS. Nvidias, much more mature solution. I think Nvidia fanboys are upset deepdown that there is now another real player in the AI upscaler race.

[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

Nothing wrong comparing technologies. PSSR is actually way better than DLSS1 but inferior to DLSS3. For a first iteration, it's amazing.

[@joseijosei]

You are literally watching a video of people comparing those directly, which makes sense. Nvidia created AI upscalers, AI Frame Generation, Ray Tracing, Ray Reconstruction, etc. PSSR is a copy, so it makes sense to compare it with DLSS. Sure, it's their "first step", but also, they're not innovating here. Just like Intel with XeSS they have a huge advantadge at this point. I'm not saying it's bad. I'm saying it makes sense it's this good, and it shoud be compared with DLSS. What else are you going to use? FSR isn't even the same thing. It's an upscaler, but not an AI upscaler.

[@fenixa2z936]

So DF is insane? 😂 8:21

[@phillippinoFLASH]

@joseijosei I think the distinction between what DF is doing and what a lot of Nvidia fanboys are doing in the comment section is that DFs comparison is for education and curiosity. Meanwhile people in the comments seem to be getting angry at PSSR for no particular reason? It's not like PSSR is hurting peoples ability to use DLSS so not sure why theres so many people in the comments having meltdowns

[@OwtDaftUK]

It's interesting that when Switch 2 gets DLSS, it's gonna have better upscaling than the PS5 Pro, though PSSR likely will continue to improve.

[@Radek494]

DLSS will be better but not with the low resolution Switch 2 will be upscaling from, which will be most likely 640p or 720p to 1080p.

[@faultier1158]

I would say that PSSR is good enough that not having access to DLSS isn't that bad. But like Alex said: we haven't seen how they compare at lower input resolutions yet. The difference between FSR and DLSS is even bigger there.

[@05DonnieB]

No

[@kellyrickards7132]

The next generation Nintendo Switch will be using an nVidia T239 Tegra chip, which is an older Ampere design. Let me just say, keep your expectations in check in regards to the capabilities of that console.

[@adhl3703]

Wow!! Its hard to see different between pc and ps5 pro what a great console

[@Jasonsadventures]

Great video, super impressive how close Sony got to NVIDIA on thier first try.

[@dethskullcrusher]

The development of PSSR and the release of the PS5 Pro are essential for the PS6. Without them, Sony can't enhance the technology to compete with Nvidia and AMD. The Current PSSR is Equivalent to first generation FSR2 and DLSS 2.

[@randyrrs7028]

Yes i can imagine the PS6 will have PSSR 2.0 + frame gen equivalent

[@urmomma2688]

The current pssr is better than fsr 2, which was worse than dlss 2

[@chien.nguyen.]

@@randyrrs7028 Regarding FG technology, I think it will be quite similar to AMD because the current Ps5 pro hardware does not have hardware-level FG capabilities like RTX 4000 GPUs, FG's ability in hardware is to create less foreign objects at the same time. Lower latency, because the fake frame is inserted right between the two real frames the game engine creates the frames to display.

[@scoty3434]

DLSS is accelerated by software and PSSR Is accelerated by hardware, what i Saw there Is the PSSR tech from Sony Is better than FSR 3 with visual image and in some point PSSR manage to surpass DLSS at max settings in some áreas but is more unstable and that is impresive by this new Sony tech , is just a bit below of DLSS 3.7 nothing more and this is just the beggining of the Sony s tech here, nvidia DLSS at first and Sony PSSR on second place , not Bad for a Sony tech from the beggining with the PS6 ahead in 4 more years , PSSR Is GONNA improve a Lot and You dont want to SEE that , clearly not

[@Damn_Smooth]

​@@chien.nguyen.PC could keep frame gen to itself, even though I know it wont.. Fake frames with no latency increase aren't worth it imho.

[@_n8thagr8_63]

One thing i love about DLSS is that you can change versions at whim, and even change the preset. It's so nice

[@mga.marcelo]

PSSR has a great future. It already is almost as good as the best one, DLSS. I'm eager to see this new Playstation tech maturing.

[@SnakeGamerMG3]

Yes. PS5 Pro is a PS6 beta tester... let it be good for PS6, then it will be worth it

[@mga.marcelo]

​@@SnakeGamerMG3 It is already worth it, in my opinion. But nothing wrong in waiting for ps6 either.

Kinda hard to be impressed with PSST when it is specialized hardware accelerated upscalling like DLSS and FSR is 100% software solution working on general compute.

[@ausama95]

FSR is the worst upscale on pc. I always hated it when it comes to visuals, but a good thing is that any pc can use it

[@MrKnaives]

Maybe that's the problem. If amd focused implanting it in their card only, it would probably match the dlss. "A jack of all trade is a master of none," as the saying goes.

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

FSR is only decent for 4K/UHD however has way more artifacts, jitter and fizzle than DLSS, especially true in motion. Good news is that FSR 4 will go the AI route as well. PSSR is not FSR4.

[@igorms1993]

How is FSR compared to TSR and XESS?

[@ausama95]

@@igorms1993 better but not great as DLSS

[@РустамХалитов-с8б]

​@igorms1993 xess still better, but not many games where you can use it

[@Console_Gaming_Vids]

Great video, Alex!

[@RmnGnzlz]

The balls to call it PISSER tho.

[@ReginaldVannison7777]

The PSSR on it’s first attempt beating out FSR is too cold. Sony💪🏾

[@shalveenkumar2142]

good job Alex, love your detailed breakdowns

[@GabePlaysYT]

The Switch 2 with DLSS is gonna be SO COOL!!

[@jonaspetty8767]

The fact that every DF video could be a Final Paper is outstanding, I guys do an amazing job.

[@水春-e6s]

DLSS uses a dedicated core, so image reconstruction is accurate, there is little noise, and the processing is beautiful. It is also an excellent feature with little latency.

[@Kysen10]

AMD needs to get their shit together, Sony coming out with a better technology after starting years later.

[@joseijosei]

... They aren't the same thing tho... Why do you think you need a PS5 Pro to use PSSR? It's a hardware accelerated AI upscaler. It's like DLSS, not FSR. This may come as a shocker to you, but this is the first AI upscaler on consoles.

[@Gustaviustwinkelberry]

AMD and SONY worked together on this, PSSR is FSR4...

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

@@Gustaviustwinkelberry PSSR is not FSR4. Go watch tech deepdives...

[@leonfrancis3418]

This is literally AMD'S technology. FSR was created to bring upscaling to old graphics cards. You're whinging about things you don't understand.

[@riceeater79]

​@@Gustaviustwinkelberry No its not. People today really don't know who SONY is as a company. The ignorance is mind numbing.

[@zaneelali3237]

We will see all the hype when it release

[@leerobinson8376]

God i hope avatar frontiers and cyberpunk 2077 get PSSR added

[@82mrshortman]

I'm personally hopeful they're still working on a launch day or near patch for PSSR to improve it even more. Technology like this moves fast and it's only going to get better with each revision.

[@lawnmanGman]

now compare it to dlss 1.0

[@Deathdemon65]

That's not how comparison videos work

[@joseijosei]

Why? Nvidia literally innovated there. They created AI upscalers, ray tracing, ray reconstruction and AI Frame Generation. PlayStation is copying Nvidia, so just they have to compete here. If you think that at some point PlayStation is going to be ahead of Nvidia on this, you don't understand what's going on here.

[@staskozak8118]

compare every new car manufacturers to first Ford.

[@griff5476]

My old eyes can't see much difference tbh

[@denhawken]

I haven't seen this many pc people mad over a console! The pssr really putting some hurt on their dlss and fsr..

[@DanKaschel]

Idk why people always think we're mad. As a PC gamer I want consoles to look as good as possible because that's the starting point for a PC port.

[@j.ctuber3666]

Basically, you're saying that these "minority" of people are generally the whole PC gamers.

[@Protege88]

Why would PC gamers be upset over tech we've had for like 6 years already? It's great that Playstation gets a good upscaler

[@TerraWare]

@@DanKaschel No one's mad. The person is reflecting as insecure people tend to which is what fanboys are. They need to believe others who didnt buy the same thing as them are jealous and mad. It's absurd. What is there to be mad about anywa, Sony improving upscaling on console is a good thing for gaming but if you dont play on console I don't see why you'd care. Most don't because as long as you're satisfied with what you bought you enjoy it. If you're insecure like fanboys are you have to justify by behaving like a clown on social media lol

[@agevenisse3252]

Hm... Who's mad? I haven't seen anyone... 🤨 I guess you are unaware of the fact that FSR is used in many games on PS5 (with often very poor results due to the low internal resolution). PSSR is a huge step in the right direction, because it's using deep learning and proper motion vectors just like DLSS.

[@SuperMegaDragonKiller]

Good for the future of consoles i'd say. Sure PS5 and OneX were using new gen tech, but this is definitely a much bigger step in getting towards the 4k60 we need for big TV's. Really looking forward to the next few years to see how things pan out with better game engines, cpu and gpu enhancements.

[@davidburk4546]

Sony just got here with PSSR and is already beating AMD’s FSR 😅

[@paulsmith-oo7zz]

In a machine that costs MORE than a pre built 4060 pc that suppprts DLSS 3 and frame gen. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@xyz-ml9ff]

PSSR was designed specifically so Sony doesn't have to use FSR and FSR was designed specifically for people with older GPU like GTX 9, 10 and 16 series cards can have a non AI based upscaler. So congrats for stating the obvious about two different solutions designed to do two different things.

[@urmomma2688]

​​@@paulsmith-oo7zzthe problem is, a 4060 pre built is more expensive and the gpu is much slower than the ps5 pro one. You ain't beating consoles for the price, pc fanboy. Especially not with prebuilt Pcs

[@paulsmith-oo7zz]

@@urmomma2688in the UK you can buy a Ryzen 5 pre built with an RTX 4060 for £629! News flash that’s less than £699, a lot less. The GPU is not worse than the Pro, what you smoking. With DLSS 3 you will get better image quality for less. Plus access to Steam, XBGP and PS games. For less money!

[@AnthonyTripoli]

The developers turning off sharpening on the PSSR version (vs FSR) also plays a role in how the final images compare

[@yournightmare9999]

To many players crying about price 😭😭😭😭😭

[@TurtleChad1]

700$ for a slightly better system

[@arbeitslos4247]

Mostly crying about the unavailable disc drive…

[@yournightmare9999]

@@arbeitslos4247 yeah this one also 😭😭😭😭😭👍

[@FaJaR2]

11:18 Great video comparison, it’s cool to see it’s at least vastly superior to FSR. By the way I kept hearing a very distant hammer here and I thought it was my neighbor, lmao

[@ygny1116]

PSSR is not a slam dunk yet like DLSS, mostly because lack of tensor cores which makes DLSS run faster. Looking forward to see how Switch 2 will fare at much lower internal resolution.

[@DeeBatch]

don't think tha the issue lol. It needs to learn over time. PSSR is still in training and the ML AI is learning. This tech get better overtime. Same thing with DLSS. It had to learn overtime. As it did we got new versions of DLSS.

[@Michael-jr3gz]

Lol you actually think Switch upscaling will be anywhere near as good as PSSR???

[@metroplex29]

I mean, PSSR is just AMD FSR4 with another name, so yeah, there is still a lot to improve.

[@MrEditorsSideKick]

@@Michael-jr3gz The switch will use DLSS which is better than PSSR. It's just that the resolution will be lower in all games.

[@pangbangdang3672]

@@Michael-jr3gzSwitch 2 will use dlss 3

[@Kougeru]

TLDR: hardware accelerated upscaling is the best and likely cannot be beaten by software-only

[@SweetFlexZ]

I can't believe how bad FSR is..... thank god I have an Nvidia card.

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

This is why all AMD GPU owners talk crap about DLSS, because FSR is what they know and it is horrible sadly. Luckily FSR 4 should fix it, however, will require a new GPU. Expect only Radeon 8000 to be able to use it next year.

[@SweetFlexZ]

@@Dr.WhetFarts Yeah, last week one weird guy was telling me that DLSS was a blurry mess, he probably only knows first iteration of it because if you compared dlss to fsr today, you can clearly see how fsr is waaaay behind, even behind PSSR wtf

[@ElvenBubblegum]

​@@Dr.WhetFartsfsr is there to bring upscaling to every machine, including the older nvidia cards that were forgotten by nvidia themselves. No need to hate on fsr when it does it's own thing and has its own purpose.

[@LatinLegacyNY]

DLSS clears and we already know Nvidia will have the next revision in the pipe to announce next to their RTX 50 series announcement.

[@KIGamin_]

What’s your point?

[@leonfrancis3418]

​​@@KIGamin_That DLSS stands out as a clear winner at a time when it's about to be upgraded in weeks. Think of like Frieza telling Vegeta this isn't even his final form.

[@Damn_Smooth]

PSSR is starting off at a far superior point to DLS1. Without having to be programmed for a ton of different hardware, it will catch up in no time.

[@KIGamin_]

@@leonfrancis3418 so is PSSR not going to get better? Just DLSS?

[@LatinLegacyNY]

@@Damn_Smooth That had something to build off of so that shouldn't be surprising. Pretty much a copy & paste. Besides, consoles were doing this well before it was a thing on PC. It was called checkerboarding.

[@Shahzad12357]

Fsr4 looking good

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

Sadly its not FSR4.

[@Shahzad12357]

@@Dr.WhetFarts noooooo🥺

[@Shahzad12357]

@@Dr.WhetFarts i thought it was supposed to be a part of fsr

[@staskozak8118]

@@Shahzad12357, same concept but different implementation

[@gameurai5701]

FSR4 is different, this is Sony's version. They're both based on AMD's RDNA3 AI cores (and RDNA4 features), but the code is different. Imagine if there was an AI upscaler that used Tensor Cores but isn't actually DLSS.

[@weighted_companion_cube]

Wow, I didn't realize how bad FSR was.

[@fenixa2z936]

I knew the PC nerds would get all up in a frenzy over this one. And I’m here for it. First iteration of PSSR and they’re mad it’s already almost on par with DLSS. 😎🍿

[@joseijosei]

I didn't know PSSR had AI Frame Generation and ray reconstruction. Damn, must be really good.

[@HitThemPixels]

It's funnier seeing "console nerds" getting in a spin over something that... isn't happening?

[@OutlawFarmersRC]

So funny that these resolutions and quality settings are what you are stuck at on consoles LOL

[@Jutepest]

no

[@faultier1158]

Why would someone be mad though? It's nice to see that consoles can finally move away from garbage image quality. I'm a PC player and I'm relying heavily on DLSS for image quality & performance at 2160p output. And on consoles, devs use aggressively low render resolutions for their performance modes, so good upscaling is even more important there.

[@mayhemsamiegameplay]

The biggest questions right now for having PSSR in the plate would be .. how does it apply for all the older PS4 titles?? What is happening with the Third Party games which have heavily invested in FSR especially Alan Wake 2 and Jedi Survivor?? What about third party titles post PS5 PRO launch.. are developers going to do FSR for XSX/PS5 and PSSR implementation for PS5 Pro separately . Will these cause actual delay in releasing titles for PS5, as they have to do it differently for base and pro models?

[@joaopescusa]

let me guess, you need like 4x zoom and half speed to notice differences...

[@dripfoe_3307]

That is irrelevant. The point of the video is to scope out the differences. That's their job. If this stuff does not interest you, then do not watch it.

[@joaopescusa]

@@dripfoe_3307 it is relevant. you pay a premium for componentes with this tech. i like these videos... when the differences are noticeable, like the ones they did with Horizon on PC testing the upscalers, but with ps5 pro, its usually... 3x 4x zoom, half speed, stuff at the distance... can you really tell a difference for the naked eye, while you game in your living room at 3m meters away from the TV?

[@staskozak8118]

FSR always looks bad. Little things flick as hell :(

[@urmomma2688]

Fsr fizzle and artefacts are very obvious even on a 1080p screen. It becomes a jumbled mess in motion

[@vintatsh]

I'd day that's pretty impressive for a first iteration of this upscaler. At least in this title it seems to be far better than FSR and somewhere in between XeSS and DLSS, even managing to resolve cleaner reflections than DLSS.

[@kadupse]

So as expected, not as good as DLSS, beats FSR (everything with minimal effort beats FSR)

[@Jasonsadventures]

It's unbelievably close to dlss. Objectively looked better in some scenes

[@kadupse]

@@Jasonsadventures No it didn't look better on any scenes, and DLSS is clearly ahead in stability of small features of the image, but indeed PSSR is quite good for a first iteration.

[@Jasonsadventures]

@@kadupse I liked the softer natural look on some things.