Upclose with Mahalingam Balaji: Brahmin Genocide - The Precursor to Hindu Extinction

[@suketudanke9897]

Only one thing to point out - Apart from Chitpawan Brahmans, other sub-jatis of Brahmans like Deshasthas and Karhades were also killed in areas like Kolhapur, Sangli, Satara, Pune

[@Aastha.12345]

​@prago4629utter nonsense, I m sure it comes from a Bhimta!

[@maniaphobia4719]

@prago4629Agreed ; But what is the exclusivity; Simple living , Be highly disciplined, No wealth concerns for tomorrow leave alone next generations , Weather a common man apply these in his life ; I can not even wake up at 4 AM ; When some community is disciplined among generally passionate society , it is to be respected ; If not , loss is for the society ;

[@suketudanke9897]

@prago4629 empty rhetoric by a Bhimta who is justifying genocide of one community which is "exclusivist".

[@cosmicallyspeaking871]

@prago4629 I don't agree with this alleged exclusivity, but for arguments sake, how do you make it all non-exclusive & homogeneous? Can you give us some idea?

[@kamus2478]

@@cosmicallyspeaking871 The rhetoric is about victim blaming, gaslighting and justifying persecution and erasure of a micro-minority.

[@Anon12375]

Fascinating video! This is a topic that even right wingers dont want to discuss. Thank you for your courage

[@bonjovi1354]

right wingers r generally coward .. so far thats what i hav seen ... they want to live in their own bubblle and just just vote modi thats it

[@indieboy1033]

Some right wingers are wolves in sheep clothes. Non-Hindus like AIM, Kushal Mehra, BJP BJYM's Abhinav Prakash... There is endless list of Brahmin haters.

[@tejasousep]

It is sad to see how normalised Brahmin bashing has become. Even sadder is the fact that some of these anti brahmin voices are from the Brahmin community itself - woke (secularised) brahmins trying to gain acceptance in the wider secular fraternity.. Kamal Hasan and TN Krishna are two such public luminaries.. One of the most fashionable things for a Brahmin to do today is to expose and insult his own community. This is the extent to which the guilt has been internalised by some in this group, thanks to centuries of mind washing.. The more left leaning ones are also prone to attacking it. Some of the thought leaders in these woke movements are brahmins of the diaspora. Ajanta Subramaniam (author of caste of merit) an otherwise intelligent person who is uncomfortable in her Brahmin skin and does everything to denounce it.. On the other hand, the founder of equality labs is a self proclaimed Dalit who has taken it upon herself to rid the world of the Brahmin menace as she sees it.. They were behind the infamous Cisco case in the US that showed to what extent such insidious notions have come to influence corporate thinking in America. I'm sure Jack Dorsey ( the former ceo of twitter) was inspired by these to show up with the placard denouncing Brahminical patriarchy that was mentioned by Sri Balaji in the talk.. It is time for the Brahmin community, both in India and abroad, to begin forging a path back to gaining selfhood in their own distinct way guided by intelligence, respect, simplicity and humility - the qualities that have distinguished them from the beginning , and ironically, the same qualities they have been hated and hounded for.

[@QoSabKuch]

Not some..most..Sadly, most highly educated ppl from the Brahmin community who happen to be affluent also, across generations feel guilty about their 'privilege' and try to make others feel guilty also..they look down upon Bharatiya traditions and the Sanskrit language..by now I almost expect every Sanatana basher's name to be a Brahmin name 😢

[@tejasousep]

@@illenejoseph7958 Hello, thanks for your reply. I don’t really understand the point you are making. I’m not aware of historical instances of Brahmins interfering in the rites and practices of non-Vedic groups. It is quite possible. Can you please send me references about these particular non Vedic Hindu communities who you say have suffered discrimination at the hands of Brahmins? Full disclosure: I’m not an expert on these subjects. I'm not even a Brahmin. I’m just a concerned individual who sees how a certain community is being vilified for the problems of Indian society, and how it has been deemed OK for everyone to do this. Will people speak thus about minority communities like the Muslims or Christians in a similar vein? They don’t because they fear reprisal. The only reason people publicly vilify Brahmins is because they know they can get away with it. It has become normalized in our society. And this is the tragedy. It should not be the case in a democratic-secular nation that grants protection of religious status to some and not others. This is a contradiction that we as reasonable citizens should take the trouble to look at. We can learn from our past but not be limited by it through a pressing need to get even with a particular group of people because in our minds they have become associated with certain evils. Two wrongs do not make a right. This is all that I’m saying ~

[@adityaiyer3250]

Better for Brahmins to start their own religion .... We will atleast get some benefits from government and also we need not explain anything to anyone

[@QoSabKuch]

@@adityaiyer3250 that will again create a loss of spiritual and religious direction for the rest of the Sanatani community..I mean Brahmins were supposed to be the carriers of scriptures and traditions

[@rajeevtiwaryr]

Not possible many Brahmins would have done inter caste marriage by now, not admissible in Kaliyuga.

[@souvikghosh6148]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *📚 The premise of "Brahmin Genocide: The Precursor to Hindu Extinction"* - The book explores the concept of Brahmin genocide and its implications for Hindu extinction. - The use of the genocide model to analyze the situation and map it to the Brahmin community. - Historical instances, such as post-independence violence and assaults on Brahmins, are discussed to highlight the urgency of the issue. 05:42 *🎯 Brahmin hate speech as a precursor to Hindu Extinction* - Brahmin hate speech has historical roots dating back over 200 years, originating from colonial-era narratives. - The narrative suggests that attacking Brahmins is a strategy to undermine Hindu civilization. - Addressing hate speech against Brahmins is crucial to preventing the broader extinction of Hinduism and its cultural heritage. 08:20 *🌱 Origins and persistence of Brahmin hatred* - Brahmin hatred originated from colonial-era narratives portraying Brahmins negatively. - The hate speech persists due to multi-layered attacks on Brahmin civilization, including discrimination, denial of opportunities, and environmental vilification. - Lack of robust challenges to this narrative and generational perpetuation contribute to its persistence. 16:10 *📰 Documentation and acknowledgment of violence against Brahmins* - Despite documented instances of violence against Brahmins in independent India, there is a lack of official acknowledgment and comprehensive data. - The absence of post-violence analysis and acknowledgment hinders societal learning and reconciliation. - Efforts to suppress or downplay violence against Brahmins contribute to the denial of genocide and its consequences. 22:39 *🛑 Denial of genocide and its impact* - The denial of genocide, the final stage, is characterized by dismissing or downplaying atrocities committed against a community. - It prevents reconciliation, hinders accountability, and perpetuates historical injustices. - Lack of official acknowledgment and reluctance to confront past violence exacerbate societal divisions and impede progress towards a more inclusive society. 24:45 *💔 Society's narrative against Brahmins: * - Society tends to blame Brahmins for various societal issues, leading to their vilification. - Dehumanization of targeted groups is a critical step, portraying them as less than human to justify harm. 25:37 *🎯 Organization and polarization in hate propaganda: * - Regimes of hatred train individuals to carry out destruction against targeted groups. - Propaganda by hate groups on social media polarizes communities, leading to calls for violence. 26:42 *⚠️ Preparation and persecution stages: * - Perpetrators plan genocides using coded language and hate messages. - Victims are identified based on ethnicity or religion, and death lists are drawn up. 30:31 *🔍 Extermination and denial in genocide: * - Hate groups target and murder victims solely based on their identity. - Denial of atrocities, especially against Brahmins, persists due to their identity. 33:52 *📚 Effects of hate speech and desensitization: * - Frequent exposure to hate speech desensitizes individuals and leads to increased prejudice against targeted groups. - Examples of brahminophobia in mainstream media and public discourse illustrate the normalization of hate speech. 36:31 *🗣️ Examples of brahminophobia and societal response: * - Brahmins face verbal aggression through historical attributions and terms like "brahminical patriarchy." - Challenging hate speech and demanding clarification on its intent is crucial to combatting brahminophobia. 48:31 *🧠 Understanding Global Brahmin Genocide* - Brahmin diaspora witnessing caste discrimination allegations. - Concerns about critical race theory importing caste dynamics. - Need for a multifaceted approach to combat fake narratives and promote civilizational understanding. 51:00 *🏏 Deconstructing Brahminical Association with Cricket* - Examination of the narrative of cricket as a Brahminical sport. - Layers of justification for the association, from non-contact sport to physical attributes. - Advocating against bias allegations without concrete evidence and promoting fair discourse. 01:00:33 *🔥 Rejecting Discrimination in Sports and Society* - Emphasizing the need to appreciate sports icons beyond caste or religious lenses. - Advocating against discrimination in any industry or vocation. - Encouraging a discourse that uplifts achievements rather than belittling them based on identity. 01:03:28 *📝 Action Items for Addressing Brahmin Discrimination* - Ten-step plan for individuals to address societal issues, starting with awareness. - Urgency in taking action and launching a petition against hate speech targeting Brahmins. - Advocating for systematic approaches, including legal action and constitutional mechanisms.

[@qeiejxdld6302]

Most imp is both are idiots discussing cricket which ruined India unlike rajix Dixit ji ( a true Brahman) who exposed it. These clowns are a waste of time. Nothing new learnt in an hour. Same usual. Muh Brahmin is persecuted. Rather than crying these folks should enlighten people like rajix Dixit but I guess these are fake ones or too dumb

[@cktraveller6278]

Author is very genuine Great accurate account of injustice to Brahmins

[@santhoshcr3036]

Ashish dhar ji, one request to make at least one show in Kashmiri language spoken by pandits. In youtube we get only the urdu influenced version. We would like to listen to it.

[@krishSundar]

And yet many Brahmin leaders silently stood by congress : Even the tallest of them like PV Narasimha Rao, Pranab Mukherjee who were in a sense bridged old school India and new one . Even after having high intellect they were with congress who passively supported the elimination of Indian education system and the Brahmin community from education

[@mrsubramanian-hy9xb]

Brilliant video 👍🏾 thanks to the both of you for shedding light on this matter.

[@desiremixx7622]

The windmills of God grind slow but exceedingly fine.... Brahmins have always been demonised and inspite of the best plans by invaders Brahmins can never be wiped out. They have withstood the genocide and they have grown and through their growth Sanathana dharma has thrived and continues to thrive. Funnily the more vested interests try to wipemout brahmins the more Brahminism grows and more Sanatana dharma continues to grow. Truth always triumphs.

[@krsn5]

thank you for an excellent discussion, much needed, hope better sense prevails in society and more people watch this and also read the book

[@ms-yq8cd]

Bramins Are exceptional in intellect and fine arts just as ksatriyas are exceptional as rulers, vaishyas are exceptional at commerce and trade and shudras are exceptional at everything else.

[@kakurn]

Thanks a lot for hosting Vidvan Balaji and talking about this topic.

[@91rummy]

Simple logic.. If they think Brahmins are the “custodians” of knowledge, why do they hate Brahmins but not Imams or Bishops or Rabbis? Because Bishops, Moulanas are considered custodians of knowledge in those religions.. So why hate only Brahmins? Answer is to destroy Hinduism. Two parties are fighting for hegemony over India and both of them need to eliminate Hinduism to make their job easier. Fools don’t know that Hinduism is not a religion to destroy. It’s just nature.. It’s truth.. simply truth of this universe.

[@QoSabKuch]

Happy to see an increase on subscription here❤

[@sunilhardas5273]

This is a healthy and balanced interaction on an important but less discussed subject. Thanks, both of you! Why should Brahman community, in Bharat and in other countries, not get a minority status in this and other countries? That will ensure legal and constitutional protection and support in every country where Brahmans live.

[@munishjoshi6008]

Sir while mentioning sikh massacre you just missed to mention hindu killings to propagate Khalistani movement....... And hardly anybody mention s this issue for atleast 7-8 years continuous hindu killings were taking place very similar to Kashmir...and the number is yet to be listed which might be in thousands..... As media in those days was in Government hands and only source was DD or radio...

[@extraordinarygamer937]

True well said

[@aniruddharao8513]

The best podcast on KZbin ever. Kudos to upword

[@binaymishra222]

Great Information shared Sir, Than you Balaji sir

[@satyavratvyas9659]

Missionaries realised 200 years back Sanatan is nothing without Brahmin ecosystem which includes Brahmins, shashtras, sanskrit, gurukuls and temples. That is why they weaved strategies around these to destroy them. In fact, they have succeded to a large extent by highjacking our education, bollywood . Spreading hate against Brahmin is the core strategy. Jihaadis lynched brahmins and destroyed temples, but missionaries focussed on creating dissensions among hindus. Post independence, selfish hindu leaders continued to play brahmin/ hindu hate narratives/fakery to get votes of certain castes.

[@anildhar7763]

Jai Shri Ram💥🚩🚩

[@sharmilakalain7549]

Riveting conversation. The pushback is admirable and imperative. Perhaps shorter videos of each point can be made so as to facilitate the dissemination of the message.

[@vivekiyer2203]

@sharmilakalain7549 dangerous suggestion. The problem is, there'll be unwanted comments without listening to the entire conversation. You may have encountered Sai Deepak's whose shorts unfortunately draw pointless criticism when the viewers don't watch the entire video in the first place. Thus, such videos will not be able to disseminate the real information correctly across the viewers.

[@prashantpalo5688]

Excellent awesome work sir done by u.

[@mk-ie4ci]

I thank you gor bringing such illustrious guests becauss through your lectures you are documenting such important aspecta of history which were only passed down by Shruti through generation becauss the Marxist historians didnt allow anyone to document all these facts down.

[@dvikauglaumishrauca]

Excellent work and book.

[@Bipolar_Iz_Bad]

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[@pravirsharma]

It would help to dig deep into how prevalent the discrimination against lower castes was as translated into educational opportunities afforded to the lower castes and ostracisation from drinking water wells and temples . These narratives have been popularised by Bollywood and for many it is difficult to tease out what they have been told via cinema and stories from what May have been the reality onthe ground . What will perhaps disentangle this is ground research where people who have lived through those experiences as victims or witnesses, are interviewed by researchers . If the society did indeed suffer from caste discrimination ,the full extent of this must be known . (And the role of Brahmins in it )This truth alone can illumine and liberate us.

[@anshupandit4490]

Ashihs dhar sir you should really do something to unite the community. So that we can help our people so that they can help the whole hindu community. Kindly watch the video i have linked. You need to be the flag bearer because you have the credentials and then we can be in ranks and can constitute as a cadre based organisation.

[@rijumobile7915]

When asked about KP, the author should have clearly told that the KPs were targeted because they were Brahmins. Otherwise what is the point that the author is portraying here if he cannot identify them as brahmins and using the cliche of they are hindus indians etc.. which is the typical political answer ..

[@happydaisy444]

Insightful.

[@rviswanathan]

🙏

[@kakurn]

Why is the sound / audio on UpWord videos so horrible. Needs to be more clear and volume needs to be louder.

[@kakurn]

Impossible to watch on a TV. Even on other devices can’t watch without earphones. @Ashish Dhar - please help in sorting this out. Family viewing of the videos is impossible

[@obscurealm]

How many of the current Brahmin sects are actually Brahmins of the old India? I am asking this because there must have been colonial "Brahmin" stooges who have distorted the hindu texts like crazy.

[@darkprince2490]

to be honest, almost all jatis in ancient india were well versed in mantras and performed their own pujas and rituals. They would have been indistinguishable, on the basis of adherence and dedication to dharma, to a lutyens type modernist from what we call brahmins today. For brahmins, the gotra is indistinguishable from the kula. While for all others, the gotra and kula are separate. The native explanation for this is that at some point in time an ancient rishi was the guru of the kshatriya/vaishya/sudra with the same gotra. Gotras are also taken directly from the Devas or their equivalents ie, a natural being like a mountain. Gotras are shared across kulas. All varnas and kulas were thus integrated. Rajiv Malhotra has recorded that one kula contained all 4 varna. (Don't try to parse out the above at the level of mathematical logic.. it integrates at a higher plane than the mere mundane.. at the plane of guna and karma. Certain Brahmin families were associated with certain kshatriya/vaishy/sudra families across generations. The same brahmin family would officate at the wedding of multiple generation of one kula. In a wedding, the bride and groom would each bring their own brahmin ritualist. Often the family members would chant alongside the priest, they knew the verses if not for any reason than the ubiquity of marriages in anciet bharata. Brahmins were specialists in ritual - they are not the same as "priests" (ie enforcers of [church] doctrine) of the west. All bharatiyas (one moral community) belonged to the three varnas and were thus adhikaris to the veda. Vaishyas or farmers made up the bulk of the populace, unlike what modern detractors say. Sudras were a minority and associated with temples - eg devadasi and shilpis - Their emphasis on Kama refers to Kama/enjoyment of the Lord, not to mundane enjoyment. The term sudra gets used differently in different contexts in our texts... especially in buddhist texts.. just because a sudra is being mentioned, does not mean it maps out onto some dharmik community. Mlecchas are outside our moral community because they do not recognize varna type inter-dependence, they have only 2 categories - master and slave and they need to invent apologia and ideologies for the same. We do not. This was pinted out even in our ancient texts where mlecchas were said to have only 2 categories. Coming to your question, it is possible that those families that understood the colonial game jettisoned their kula association and kept only the gotra. This would make them synonymous with the ancient rishis. In Bharata, there was no collaborator class, no financier class, no sepoy class, these are known to have come along with colonialism and played middleman and enforcer roles for colonialism. so no need for these classes. Native bharata was not a colonial society outside of the theories of the missionary and his pet, the indologist Note that these are true "classes" in that they are utterly separate from one another, often in terms of brute genetics like Africans and whites in america. Brahmins were neither a class nor a community unto themselves. Rather, they were a part of the wider community of Hindus. This is not some point of activism - it was actually the prior native state of affairs. There is no such thing as some "secret brahmin cabal" trying to subvert other jatis; it is clear from this very language used seculars accusing brahmins, that they are projecting the conspiracy laden state-of-affairs in the west and monotheism onto brahmins. That is, there is an exact match in the common language of demonizatioin used in the west to that attributed by seculars supposedly to brahmins. A class/tribe separate/ruling over others comes from monotheism, where the believer nonbeliever distinction led to ideology-based separateness and predation. This was all absent from Bharata - there were no ethnic fights between south and north, between biharis and bengalis, bebtween telugus and Tamils... between vaishnavas and saivas... all these came with western colonialism when they applied their theories and policies based on those theories to bharata. Historically: Brahmins were always integrated into their communities. Once the gurukuls etc were destroyed, it was only then that pan-indian associations of the basis of "caste" (same master slave dynamics as the monotheist term tribe, except mapped out ordinally into more categories, to inlcude an enabler nobility class between priest and peasant, later replaced by the professional) came into being, not just for brahmins, but other indian groups as well eg jats. The politics of jati and identity are tracebale to this period, and was later exacerbated by mandal reservation politics (started by missionaries on the basis of prior EIC preferential hiring to service positions in the colonial state including babudom and colonial army). As traditional livelihoods became endangered and communities transitioned, they were picked off one-by-one by the colonial state's political exigencies until they gelled into interest and identity groups. This was never the case in ancient bharata. Did Dronacharya organize a mob of brahmins demanding permanent "employment", or did he go from Raja to Raja? Varna means category. Only when the term is essentialized (eg as the domain of some community, in colonial or translation discourse) does it become problematic. Devas have varnas. Pasu, pakshi have varna. Each varna has its own fighting weapon. The above is necessarily an "idealized" account - I do not contend that ancient bharata was a peaceful utopia. But the type of (exagerated) ethnic conflicts and street level hatred we see today is due to colonials. Even Jitendra tyagi who converted back said that there was no animosity at ordinary level of public functioning before the predatory religions. Will write more. Also see kusumlata Kedia's yt talk on rasthra versus state, and the books by Martin Fasek and Satish Sharma. Jai Sri Ram

[@obscurealm]

@@darkprince2490 Thanks for the long reply. I will check out the sources you have mentioned. it is intuitively known that the old Bharat would have been without the rigid division of classes as seen today, the amount of damage done to the Indian psyche by the invaders is irreversible. Please do write more if possible.

[@vivekiyer2203]

​@@obscurealm few sources you can read is Mr. Priolikar's book on Goan invasion, castes of mind by Nicholas Dirks. These books show how the system of hatred was planted against the very community which is now considered to be the bane of Hinduism.

[@historymaniac5178]

Jai shriram

[@NitinKosaria]

Annihilation of caste = protection of brahmins

[@eshwarswaminathan3031]

Many of them sold their houses in village agraharams

[@samahirrao]

Knowledge guardianship is not job that attracts enemies to Brahmins, but narrative control efforts which was supposed to be job of other castes being taken over by wrong castes not just Brahmins attracts Niyati's Vakradrusti. Plus we need to move from by birth castes to achieved castes at least 2 to 5% of people being born on Indian soil. Which will postpone demise of Indian civilization by at least 40 years.

[@su-mu]

4:35

[@eshwarswaminathan3031]

1967 self respect marriages annadurai government brought a law.

[@harihara1151]

Lousy audio only noise muffled

[@sunilhardas5273]

Please pronounce "BRAMHAN" instead of "Bramhin". In Devnagari ब्राह्मण. 🙏😊

[@Alpha-Chinoh]

Did the musician/composer Brahms have any association with the Brahman community?

[@kamus2478]

What is Pakistan? It's not just a geographical entity but the culmination of an ideology that used rhetoric , lies and perceived victimization ( as well as supremacy, ironically) to progressively demonize , dehumanize and pauperize the "other" , finally erasing a specific group on the basis of their identity. Now compare this to the topic being discussed and see the direction Bharat ( or whatever remains of it ) is taking. The ever increasing propaganda and rhetoric currently employed to justify the persecution of a specific group by their co-religionists to grab power and privileges, has set the society on a course that will finally do what centuries of Izlamic and Xtian rule couldn't.

[@2011var]

I understand his feelings. But unfortunately the word "Brahmin" is being used interchangeably for "Iyer" an "Iyengar" castes. The actual definition of the word "Brahmin" is diametrically opposite to the castes "Iyer" and "Iyengar". 99% of Iyer and Iyengar caste do not have any characteristics and traits of varna "Brahmins". All of them earn Money and live a normal life like any other castes.

[@gradstudent584]

Oh please. It's impossible to live according to your definition these days. Stop imposing your strictures on the community.

[@2011var]

@@gradstudent584 Agreed, then do not call them as "Brahmins". There is no "Brahmin" caste. For regular usage, call them as "Iyer" and "Iyengar" caste people.

[@carrydemogaming4828]

WTF are u talking about. If u hate caste system som much why don't the most opressive castes are middle ones or the kshatriya caste. So it's not Brahmins that discriminate

[@2011var]

@@carrydemogaming4828 Kshatriya is a Varna and not caste. Therefore, please correct yourself. Brahmin is varna and not a caste. "Iyer" and "Iyenger" are castes.

[@NS-jt9vv]

Please invest in proper audio. Am wearing headphones, and still it's not clear. It's just not done. You yourself are doing injustice to such an important topic.

[@TarunKumar-sp2ls]

Give up Manuwad and accept Jesus Christ as the SON and AVATAR of Lord VISHNU

[@user-we8gi3xt5b]

Audio is not clear

[@samahirrao]

is Hinduism so easy to make extinct?? I think, we will need at least one data point before we can be sure about any phenomenon's repeatability. Brahmin Genocide only ever happens after Brahmin-ness going extinct within Brahmins themselves which has never happened after 1945.

[@vinaySingh-ny7un]

Kehna kya chahte ho ??

[@lord_vats]

​@@vinaySingh-ny7unTypical apologia. He's stating that Brahmin genocide is justified because it only occurs when Brahmins lose their 'Brahmin-ness'. Imagine applying the same logic for other varnas. Can you contemplate justifying Shudra genocide with the reason that Shudras should be exterminate because their have lost their shudra-ness?

[@sheshagirimk5949]

I don't know why u r saying such things, because this means KPs genocide happened because they were not brahmin enough ? KPs are forced into exodus almost 7 times and last one being on 1990. R u saying others had enough brahminess & hence they survived while KPs had less brahminess hence they underwent thru Genocide or exodus ? Ashish Dhar himself as covered a lot about KPs

[@vinit1366]

Miss or mr rao you are fool

[@mishraji1721]

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