URGENT - Harbor Freight Recall REPLACEMENT Stands are FAILING!!

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Murphy's Law Garage

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These things are DEADLY! Please return yours ASAP and buy USA MADE!
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@kristianbyriter1404
@kristianbyriter1404 4 жыл бұрын
You just removed the load bearing sticker :p
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao 😂
@jacobwebb8818
@jacobwebb8818 4 жыл бұрын
How do I torque my sticker down again 😂
@O-RoD
@O-RoD 4 жыл бұрын
Bro.... Duct tape.... DUCT TAPE.
@WaitWhat-jy9ck
@WaitWhat-jy9ck 4 жыл бұрын
As the saying goes..."The bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the sweetness of cheap price is forgotten."
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@robertstonebreaker8394
@robertstonebreaker8394 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t deal with this garbage anymore gonna go back to my 12x12 blocks of white oak glad I never got rid of them !!
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Just go USA made! Please share this video so we can get the word out.
@mcf3778
@mcf3778 4 жыл бұрын
ill weld in some gussets and supports with my harborfreight welder and touch it up with my harborfreight grinder
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Goodluck
@TheRaulr151
@TheRaulr151 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking of doing....lol
@texasbeast239
@texasbeast239 4 жыл бұрын
Just apply more stickers. Or Harbor Freight tape.
@mw5905
@mw5905 4 жыл бұрын
Best consult with Murphy. He's an expert in welding and metallurgy.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
The dick never picks up his phone.
@crispypeanut
@crispypeanut 4 жыл бұрын
I understand your point, but that same designed has been used by multiple companies for many decades.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Its OK if you trust them to be assembled well. Please share the video to help get the word out! Thank you.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Is this your promotional speech for Chinese products? What was your failure.
@samcripes3046
@samcripes3046 4 жыл бұрын
@@MurphysLawGarage everything fails. Is it manufacturer fault or abuse? Just got too watch it for anything. Had one American made fail just letting it down and broke. 15 years of service. I understand the video. Nice. Got to keep real-time . moving forward
@nitroustommy3668
@nitroustommy3668 4 жыл бұрын
But they didn't have Ray Charles welding them.
@greggarner4477
@greggarner4477 4 жыл бұрын
I have had the old style Harbor Freight stands for 10 plus years and have used them thousands of times. Never have I had an issue. I will look at them and I appreciate the heads up but I know I'm not replacing them any time soon.
@ultimate1576
@ultimate1576 4 жыл бұрын
I was eyeballing the US Jack stands for a while now, glad I waited and got the promo code! Just ordered a set of 3-ton. I go out of my way to buy Made in USA. Do it right, buy it once, it'll last at least your lifetime if not multiple.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support!
@ryaninslee3127
@ryaninslee3127 4 жыл бұрын
How about giving out that Promo code?
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Its in the video. MLG15OFF
@ryaninslee3127
@ryaninslee3127 4 жыл бұрын
@@MurphysLawGarage oops my fault for not finishing the video! $58 dollars to ship them out to me ouch! Got a UPS promo? LOL!
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, no, but it is a large heavy box!
@cookingandbakingbyjohnny
@cookingandbakingbyjohnny 4 жыл бұрын
They failed because you removed the sticker😅😂😂😂 Like the partical furniture all wobbly weak till you put on the cardboard type backing. 😜
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@djbrettmichaels
@djbrettmichaels 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for posting this..I really knew better than to buy these stands.. I have both a set of the 3 and the 6 tons.. I will keep them, but I will use them for painting trailers and such.. Never going to crawl under a car with these again..
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome!
@daveherrmann113
@daveherrmann113 4 жыл бұрын
What are you people doing to get them to fail i use them on a 2010 Cummings and all of my 7.3 powerstrokes standard and automatic all the time 🤔... by any chance are we taking the jack as high as we can and dropping them 12" to the top of the stand???? Just because you only have a 6800 # truck doesn't mean you can't produce more then 6 tons of force 5000 pounds dropped 3" will more than max out a 6 ton stand on concrete. I'm just asking
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Faulty welds, some hold, others dont. Moral of the story, are you willing to find out when they wont anymore.
@wim0104
@wim0104 4 жыл бұрын
ok, so only welders should buy these and fix before use :-) that sticker will also encourage rust in that weak joint.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
*Cummins
@oliverrodriguez546
@oliverrodriguez546 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂Cummings you say?😅😂😂
@davidroberts2404
@davidroberts2404 4 жыл бұрын
Wth is a Cummings? Are you meaning Cummins aka cumapart
@chadwilliam1
@chadwilliam1 4 жыл бұрын
I have AutoZone jack stands made exactly like this that I bought 14 years ago. I have never trusted them and I have always wanted to but quality jack stands. I just ordered a set of these with the coupon code. Thanks
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome!
@steamenginewatt2712
@steamenginewatt2712 4 жыл бұрын
Putting in a a plug for U.S. jack doesn't matter, you are being of service by notifying people of a defective product. Sure people can weld on gussets to their Harbor Freight jack stands, but they won't have the double pawl, or the safer release design of the U.S. brand. I wouldn't modify flimsy jack stands. If I used them, I'd fab my own out of 1/2" plate, 3/8" wall tube, and 3/4 " locking pins. What I use is a rim and a 4x4 or 6x6 so if the vehicle gets "tapped" in the driveway, it's still supported. I keep the jack in place but just "snugged " up, and some additional support wood just in case. Taking the time to implement redundant safety measures are not nearly as inconvenient as being crushed by a car or truck. Be safe out there! Don't become a statistic!
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@carbuying
@carbuying 4 жыл бұрын
We noticed that none of these stands has the doubling locking mechanism. It would be a lot easier to recommend the US Jack stand if it had the double locking pin that goes through the ratchet bar. I would not recommend any jack stand without that pin, as it is a necessary secondary safety net.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
USJ jacks dont use a standard ratching pawl like the HF units. It has two pawls on a wedge sliding on pins. Once weight is on the pawls it can not be released without lifting the anvil and bumping the pawl out of wedge. The problem with ratchet stands with a pin is even the pin can be designed so poorly that it barely engages.
@dennisgruba4792
@dennisgruba4792 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you just ordered 2 pair and your discount code saved me almost enough to cover shipping. I left my recall HFT replacements in the box and headed to their local store for a gift card refund.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome. Thanks for the support!
@seniorrider9337
@seniorrider9337 4 жыл бұрын
I am lucky enough to have a set of the ancient "pin" style of jack stands. To get them to extend or retract, you have to remove a locking pin to move the extending part up or down. They are also supported around the bottom perimeter with a band of flat stock welded to each leg. I use these for things like brake jobs or changing tires. If I am going under the car, it's cinder blocks and wood blocks to support the car completely and safely. Never had one fall yet. 71 and playing it safe all my life due to seeing a jack fail and hurt a mechanic seriously when I was a kid.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
👍🏼🇺🇸
@seniorrider9337
@seniorrider9337 Жыл бұрын
@@robertholmes4178 When I was a kid, I used to go to my father;s gas station/used car lot. My dad sold a lot of cars because he could get financing for the poorer folks. He then got a lot of beat up old barley running junkers also. He had fields with hundreds of old cars in them. ( wish I had all of those old cars now) People would ask about used parts and my dad would send me and a mechanic to see if we could find and remove the part. We would just take one of those old universal bumper jacks that clicked up, then you reversed a lever and clicked back down. I watched those mechanics put their life in danger so many times. They would tell me to get under the car and remove X part. Nope! You guys are not doing this safely and that jack can move and the car fall at any time! They would laugh at me and call me a pXxsy. Then one day on a slight hillside, the mechanic jacked up the rear by the bumper and was removing the left rear tire and I grabbed him and jerked for all I was worth. The falling car just missed him. Had I not gotten him back from the underside of that old Mercury, he would have been badly hurt. Never called me a pXXsy again. I showed him how to use old tires/rims to stack under the frame to make it safer. Even today when working on my cars/truck, I use my tires/rims as a second set of jack stands.
@migreenmeds8614
@migreenmeds8614 4 жыл бұрын
Just add steel straps to the HD stands. As you said about the over priced stands. It can't fail if there is no where to go. So just give the HD stands nowhere to go. Should you have to? No of course not. But people buy things and modify and improve them all the time.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@derektorres6260
@derektorres6260 4 жыл бұрын
I just showed this video to the manager of my primary HF playground and he had not heard of this issue, and he's a trained welder, so he understood the issue better than a layman like me could
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
He’ll like this one then: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6Cni6yke5ihmdU
@RobertBrown-be8mz
@RobertBrown-be8mz 4 жыл бұрын
NEVER, EVER, finish a weld at the stress point! (Looks like it here) The weld crater leaves a weak spot where the weld can start to crack. Looks like they are welded from the inside top to the bottom, easiest way, when it SHOULD have weld progression from the bottom, with a hot start, to the top, hardest way. As a certified welder, I would weld 3/4 the way down, then start at the bottom and weld back into the weld you just made, stopping on the crater from the first weld! ALSO, this critical joint should be a full penetration welded joint, welded inside, ground out on the outside, and then welded on the outside . I can't believe one side is not welded, how long would that take when you have all your equipment right there!
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@AndreS_-df2nw
@AndreS_-df2nw 4 жыл бұрын
I have some old orange HF jack stands, I was thinking more along the lines of just putting a reinforcement at the base, like a 1" x .125" strip of steel. It can't zipper the weld above if it can't spread the feet. Or for overkill just a 1/4" rod all the way around... Like on the US Jack.
@corin164
@corin164 4 жыл бұрын
I find that almost all of HF's tools are essentially copies of well known brand's design. However, invariably HF has its manufacturers reduce their cost of the tool by either, using inferior material, reduce the tool's size, reduce its functionality, forego QC, or other means to cut costs. In other words, they make a tool to do the bare minimum of its stated purpose but without the ability to perform for any measurable amount of time. In the case of the jack stand in the video they cut corners in welding and design. The owner of the HF jack can do one of two things, return the jack for credit or modify the stand to make it safe. He/she could weld the zipper seam (on the outside) and weld some flat bar across the legs that are straddling the seam. Even if he had to pay some one to make the repairs, the Jack Stand would be considerably cheaper than US Jacks' model.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
I was with you until you said to pay someone to modify them. That would certainly cost the same as USJ and not be worth the risk. That being said, generally modifying safety equipment is frowned upon.
@USARAY1947
@USARAY1947 4 жыл бұрын
I'll just snuggly bolt some flat stock across the bottoms of the unbraced sides. Do appreciate your testing and posts.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
I would rather just buy the better product and support their business. Please share the video to help get the word out! Thank you.
@enriqueguzmanjr2281
@enriqueguzmanjr2281 4 жыл бұрын
@@MurphysLawGarage I got 69597 from harbor freight I boughted a year ago haven't use them at all don't see the recall # return back to the store to get a credit what I paid it's not safe for no one.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely by the US made jacks now. Use the credit for gloves or something.
@enriqueguzmanjr2281
@enriqueguzmanjr2281 4 жыл бұрын
@@MurphysLawGarage it's better to buy made from USA overseas use cheap product material no good thank you sir for the video info have a bless day.
@hudsonhawk0016
@hudsonhawk0016 4 жыл бұрын
If you modify them and they injure you, you won't have a leg to stand on in court. excuse the pun.
@blipco5
@blipco5 4 жыл бұрын
I just went to US Jack and ordered a set of 3 ton stands. They are on back order til July but I'm on the list. Thanks 👍.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support!
@NSRS1
@NSRS1 4 жыл бұрын
Dude this is crazy, I just got the redesigned ones and haven't taken them out of the box. This is an absolute disaster waiting to happen. Thank you for doing videos on these.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome
@an10nee
@an10nee 4 жыл бұрын
same here looks like im going back to the the store
@justaguy4788
@justaguy4788 4 жыл бұрын
200% more cost is not "a few pennies". The HF stands can be modified with a horizontal brace across the open sections and viola, is fixed.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Cost perception is subjective. Im not crying over $100 to ensure safety. No one should.
@justaguy4788
@justaguy4788 4 жыл бұрын
@@MurphysLawGarage Of course you aren't, you got them for free.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Im not sure I call my time free, but sure. I’ve spent more in social media advertising to promote my channel with these products than they actually cost. 🤷🏼‍♂️
@dondale68
@dondale68 3 жыл бұрын
My 23yo Craftsman stands have the ratchet n pawl mechanism, the teeth in the ratchets aren't very deep, and to ensure I don't 'bump' the release I've always tied the handle down with zip ties. I have welded on 2x2x 3/16 little feet to keep the stands from sinking in hot asphalt (90F, they WILL sink)(not no more), I will be welding on gusset supports and welding that seam on inside and out! And grinding the ratchet teeth deeper. It's not only me, but my wife, son, daughter, little brother, we all use the stands while we crawl under our vehicles!!
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 3 жыл бұрын
I applaud your ingenuity, but it’s not advisable to modify safety equipment that significantly. Maybe look into usjack.com for future stands.
@Burrkilla
@Burrkilla 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video. Due to a lot of rain and soft soil I welded plate steel to the bottoms of all my stands to keep them from sinking and this helped stabilize them from splitting the welds. However, this failure should never be an issue to begin with. Keep up the great videos.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@eddienolan7129
@eddienolan7129 Жыл бұрын
Would you use jack stands on hard soil? I really hope not
@HoosierDaddy_
@HoosierDaddy_ 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these videos. I think I'll just put the stands in the circular file and buy quality stands. Buy once, cry once. It's better than being dead or steering a wheelchair with my mouth.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Most definitely! Please share the video to help get the word out before people get hurt!
@BobbyFigliola
@BobbyFigliola 4 жыл бұрын
second video I be seen of yours.. Thank YOU...took back two of the old #’s stands...and got store credit..fine with that.. Now I am taking back then4 more that I have 2 (6ton) and 2 (3ton)....will see what I get for a refund or credit...replaced entire suspension on an old lexus...heavy car... and have been lucky so far.... not worth getting maimed
@BobbyFigliola
@BobbyFigliola 4 жыл бұрын
Should have checked spelling and grammar but y’all understand this ole OKIE....
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Very smart man! Thank you for watching! Please share this video to get the word out and buy USA made jacks from USJACK.com CouponCode MLG15OFF
@eriksmith2005
@eriksmith2005 4 жыл бұрын
Can an harbor freight jack stands be returned or just the ones recalled?
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Just the recalled stands outside of the return policy
@TheTarrMan
@TheTarrMan 4 жыл бұрын
I could weld some bracing easily enough but I would rather send the extra bit of money and buy a US made product.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support
@amadensor
@amadensor 4 жыл бұрын
The problem is not where they were made, it is trying to hit the low price point. Cheap is fine when it is something you will only use a few times, and safety is not a concern, but choose engineering and materials over price when it comes to safety.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, they are built to pennies in manufacturing cost.
@kevinbrenny840
@kevinbrenny840 4 жыл бұрын
If I got an extra paycheck from US Jack like him I could afford a set of their Jack's
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
We receive no commission or kickback from USJ, we only received stands to review and only after we approached them to show viewers and American product and only after hundreds of people asked for a USA made product in our last video.
@clayyockey7979
@clayyockey7979 4 жыл бұрын
Are you on the payroll of USJacks or just a paid advertiser for them? What is your commission from each set of stands sold? After reading through some of your replies in the comments, and your push to buy from USjack, this seems more like a sales pitch than a P.S.A.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Look at our other videos prior to the HF jackstand blow up, we were using HF stands. No, we are not on payroll. All we have received to date is some product and materials. They are a small veteran owned company and we wanted to do what we could do help them. If we can generate some sales, its possible they will sponsor videos in the future helping us to pay for builds we currently have going on. In our last HF video people demanded to know who they should turn to and we tracked down the only US manufacturer and asked them for help.
@robertnicholson771
@robertnicholson771 4 жыл бұрын
I have the HF aluminum stands. I will inspect them, but I have never had an issue with them. HF does over-rate just about every product they sell.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@AndreS_-df2nw
@AndreS_-df2nw 4 жыл бұрын
Read the warnings on the aluminum ones. They are for 'show purposes' not to be trusted with your life at all. Look up other reviews on them here. I bought a set to keep in my race car for use at the track, returned them 2 days later after reading that in the user manual & seeing video....
@nathantaylor680
@nathantaylor680 4 жыл бұрын
Man this is a awesome video series. I have a set of old chef autoparts stands if u remember them. Same style as the HF stands, I've never had them fail but just looked them over after this video. The welds are on the outside and the groove in the riser is flat insted of at an upward angle. Anyways thanks for the great content. I hope you make it past the rumor 7/15 date to help keep these video coming. God bless brotha.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Im glad we could help! Please SHARE this video and help support us and USA made products by buying your Harbor Freight RECALL replacement stands from USJACK.com, the only USA based jack/stand manufacturer left. Use our coupon code MLG15OFF for 15% off your order!
@45AMT
@45AMT 4 жыл бұрын
What i like already about U.S Jack is they sell repair kits so when your jack starts leaking you can repair it. Unlike the throwaway China jacks with no repair parts.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
They certainly do
@kensendelofski3761
@kensendelofski3761 4 жыл бұрын
After I returned mine I don't think I'll be buying much from harbour fraight, I bought a pair of Jack stands from tractor supply. But there also made in China. I started walking around tractor supply and many of there products were made in China. When I worked on car's with my father, we never used jack stands. He preferred a good solid log about 12 in. In diameter.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@mrredpill3121
@mrredpill3121 4 жыл бұрын
I got bad news almost all jack stands with the same design are welded the same way
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thats fact
@klinkster1955
@klinkster1955 4 жыл бұрын
US Jack brand are between $130-$200. More than saving "a couple of bucks". Yes, made in the USA is better quality, but considering all the other brands have the SAME EXACT DESIGN as harbor freight I'm thinking this video is a Commercial for US Jack for premium stands. Most likely all the other companies like Craftsman, Northern tool(which use this same HF design) all come from the same manufacturing plant in China. If this Design flaw was so dangerous or fatal, would we have heard of deaths and recalls by the other Chinese made brands by now?
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
The US made hacks look nothing like the others. Were you watching? The video was sponsored, via product placement, by US JACK. No monetary gain.
@athhud
@athhud 4 жыл бұрын
He was watching MLG. You weren’t reading...
@pedraw
@pedraw 4 жыл бұрын
buy once, cry once. I've got some old made in USA jack stands that I've probably had for 30 years. they have a pin for a locking mechanism
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
🇺🇸
@maum2732
@maum2732 4 жыл бұрын
I'll just make a welded angle box thing to use as a removable base for my jackstands, to make them safer. Can even fix it to the wooden pieces that I use as bases. Regards!
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
I dont think its worth risking some other failure. Goodluck!
@wisamabazly
@wisamabazly 4 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you for the knowledge. And showing all safety features.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome
@colinmartin9973
@colinmartin9973 4 жыл бұрын
Glad i got cash back instead of the replacments
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Please share the video to help get the word out. People need to know.
@scott2228
@scott2228 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. Kept the $. I’ll pay more for a product that can have an impact on my life - literally !!!!!
@TimJoseph08031990
@TimJoseph08031990 4 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you all! Dont forget to get the new stands from usjack.com! CouponCode MLG15OFF
@nodak81
@nodak81 4 жыл бұрын
My uncle used to just stack a couple of railroad ties to hold cars up. Too bad modern cars are so crappy that you'll bend or dent something if you try to do that these days.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
That technique is still fine for body on frame vehicles.
@m.k.mcgill
@m.k.mcgill 4 жыл бұрын
Love your setup of using the trash can for your demonstration surface. Open the lid and toss those Harbor Freight suckers in it, brother! Just goes to show, you get what you pay for. When it’s your life on the line, do you really wanna place that cheap of a bet?
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@wenliu7875
@wenliu7875 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like you have a grudge against HF jack stands. If you are claiming it can split, please demonstrate it instead of talking about it. How about put in a press see if you can make it split. If you do put in in a press, make sure it's on a surface that's similar to concrete (not a slipper surface). Similarly, for the old stand, put it under a car and see how much force for it takes to unlock it.
@wenliu7875
@wenliu7875 4 жыл бұрын
You also did not tell the viewers that this is a sponsored video.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Go watch more videos on the channel. This has been done already, and I clearly stated US JACK sent us the product and that we had a CC.
@wenliu7875
@wenliu7875 4 жыл бұрын
@@MurphysLawGarage Are you referring to the video that's showing a very light trailer on the old jack stand? Only one axle was off the ground. The new stand did not collapse in that test either. You are criticizing the strength of the new jack stand, but you did not run any test to show its weakness. In your other video, the old stand held up your truck with no issue even with you push it as hard as you can. For sponsored videos, most KZbinr made that clearly right at the beginning of video.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
The new stands have weld/material issues, I plan to test this in a future video. As far as saying the video was sponsored, it was posited as soon as the US jacks were presented. I felt that was sufficient. I would feel differently if they had paid for that spot, you would know first thing. This was meant to be a PSA.
@isaiahwelch8066
@isaiahwelch8066 4 жыл бұрын
There is a simple fix: Where the concern is about the "zipper failure," weld two pieces of metal to the front and back of that seam, on both sides of the stand. Then, if they _still_ fail, drill two holes on each side of the original welded seam, and insert a hardened bolt, 1/2" in diameter, into each hole, and do this to both sides, _after_ welding in the two pieces of steel on both sides to strengthen the construction flaw.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Or throw them away and not wait to find out if they will fail and kill you.
@isaiahwelch8066
@isaiahwelch8066 4 жыл бұрын
@@MurphysLawGarage : I would put them through very harsh scientific testing. I would _purposely,_ if I could, _make them fail,_ and then look at them to see how and why they do. And knowing that, engineer a better jack stand -- building a better mouse trap, as it were.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
US Jack already did, and we do plan to test them to failure and report back needed improvements to US Jack. They are excited and open ears.
@isaiahwelch8066
@isaiahwelch8066 4 жыл бұрын
@@MurphysLawGarage : Then I am _very_ curious to see what their findings are. Mind keeping us interested people informed?
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
We will personally handle the failure testing and report back to US Jack if anything needs improvement. Subscribe and turn on notifications to see the video!
@ptrollan
@ptrollan 4 жыл бұрын
Wow !!! Was under E250 Extended Van with those Harbor Freight jacks !!! Thank god and thank you for telling people
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome!
@pmkco
@pmkco 4 жыл бұрын
Gray Manufacturing also makes American jacks and stands. It is what professionals use, look at them too.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Looking at their site, it was mostly heavy industry equipment.
@jlennon784
@jlennon784 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the link to the us jack stands. Just bought two pair. Happy to support a veteran owned company and safety is worth the extra $175.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely, thank you for your support?
@Mtomscha
@Mtomscha 4 жыл бұрын
Just checked my set of 6 ton and 3 ton. Both sets were fully welded on each side. Seems like this manufacturing batch was the same as the older versions just a new color.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe so
@Mtomscha
@Mtomscha 4 жыл бұрын
Murphy's Law Garage thanks for looking out for folks. Wouldn’t have thought to check if it wasn’t for your video!
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome sir!
@MrUbiquitousTech
@MrUbiquitousTech 4 жыл бұрын
The obvious problem with that American made one is the crazy low profile. Which might be fine if all you work on is toy low riders, but if you're working on trucks or suvs that's not going to cut it, you'll have it fully extended just to cover the low range of the HF ones.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
The US jacks were 3ton units VS HF 6ton units. I didnt have any US 6tons with me. Sorry for the confusion, but thats the reason for the height difference
@MrUbiquitousTech
@MrUbiquitousTech 4 жыл бұрын
@@MurphysLawGarage Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
No problem.
@jonsmith2265
@jonsmith2265 3 жыл бұрын
Sent mine back without even taking them out of the box and bought the lock bar type from Home Depot.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 3 жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@waverider48
@waverider48 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldnt that be a problem of the initial stands? Never heard of this failure on HF stands before. Not saying it's not true, but a lot of what you applies to literally dozens of jack stand manufactures and none of them have that problem. To your point of the lever on the HF stands. If your slight boot kick knocks the lever up and releases the jack, you must not have anything on it. You're not going to "accidentally" knock a lever loose with 4,000lbs + on it.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZ-ad4OYiZeZrrM
@silverdragontaylir8252
@silverdragontaylir8252 4 жыл бұрын
I modified on the slope ,welded 1/2 nut with 2 inch bolt to lock down wedge(might have to put some 7018 rod on seam)
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Brother, just throw that junk away and buy USA made and forget about it.
@mikefinto4048
@mikefinto4048 4 жыл бұрын
Let him do what he wants. I ain't buying those USA jacks. I'm a welder and having angle iron like that is weak
@snap-off5383
@snap-off5383 4 жыл бұрын
Make sure to slap a "Made in USA from foreign components". on it 🤣 👊
@athhud
@athhud 4 жыл бұрын
Murphy's Law Garage since you’re all for people just throwing away cash, why don’t you reimburse him for his “trash” stands. I can assure you that the HF stands with just a few simple modifications will blow your USA jack stands out of the water in original form. Their design is shit too. They probably hold up to their rating, but they are still built on cut corners and pinched pennies.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Im all for stopping people from buying junk products from overseas, then modifying them in an attempt to make them safe.
@michaelstoker6710
@michaelstoker6710 4 жыл бұрын
My HF stands look just like my old snap on and Mac stands including the weld. Are the us jack good stuff yes. But in the pic of the failed are the 3 ton and more than likely was used improper like used 3 ton and should have used 6ton and should be expected to fail. It just seems like you having an agenda, like selling jack stands from a for a company that give you jack stands more than you're concerned with anyone safety. I could be 100% wrong and if I am I apologise but in the future when you're trying to warn people about a potential safety on a item then leave the sales pitch out of it for another product
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZ-ad4OYiZeZrrM Trying to help people. We approached IS JACK, we make no commission. USJ makes Snap-ons stands actually. The failed stand had a VW golf on it.
@michaelstoker6710
@michaelstoker6710 4 жыл бұрын
Like I said less sales pitch would win a long way and no usj does not make snap-on jack or jack stands. In fact snap-on had a lawsuit with harbor freight about the jacks and I'm pretty sure the jack stands were involved as well. In fact if you look in this months snap on catalog there's look identical to the harbor freight for $376. That design of jack stand is more common than the US jack is and the reason there is a bottom support on the US jack all the way around is due to the smaller angled metal they use if it's not supported they will give in. And if that 3-ton jack stand did fail holding up a VW that wasn't setting in the bed of a two and a half ton deuce and a half it may have been a flawed jack stand every company has a flawed items occasionally.like I started with a little less sales pitch will go a long way. Saying this product is crap and this companies that sent me a free product and is giving me money on everyone they sale by using this coupon code they gave me just comes off wrong in my book. Usj or HF or any other tool distributor or manufacturer send me free tools I don't make money off of any of them so I could care less about what people buy. But if HF calls you up and tells you they are going to send you one of there is made tools and yes they have some you be on here with a video about how good it was in my opinion. I truly hope I'm wrong and you do care but put false information in your reply still leads me down the road of you care because usj is paying. Good day sir
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Go to usjack.com and scroll to the bottom. They make make snap on stands and jacks. Your thinkinf of Matco.
@michaelstoker6710
@michaelstoker6710 4 жыл бұрын
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=shop.snapon.com/product/Jack-Stands-(in-pairs)/Jack-Stands/YA512A&ved=2ahUKEwjeoKG3pInqAhWfRjABHfvSAOcQFjABegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw370OBJW_Oo-scARUggMmSW These sure look a lot more like the HF than the usj to me. www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.harborfreight.com/automotive/jacks-jack-stands/jack-stands.html&ved=2ahUKEwjsjoqDp4nqAhXHRDABHXZ0ALEQFjADegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0OZIH0aDt-rIx5bS7zkWJ_ www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.amazon.com/US-JACK-D-41609-Garage-Stands/dp/B00P248OZC&ved=2ahUKEwjF5o-op4nqAhXVSzABHd-KBO0QFjAAegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw3pOpZSdVuf-z5an_TwxZ_o
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
They sure do, except you’ll notice they are labeled USA made in the description. USJ is a manufacturer, and they would build to a clients specs. Did you notice the full welding on the seem?
@LSJUAN
@LSJUAN 4 жыл бұрын
It’s been proven that under the weight of a car you can’t lift the pawl arm unless you have like a 8 foot pry bar and insane strength. You can’t “bump” it. Huge exaggeration. 90% of jack stands have used that design for decades for a reason. It works. Also you title is misleading. Where are the reports of the replacement jack stands failing? So they’re not failing, you simply pointed out their weakness. Another clickbait video for the purpose of ad revenue.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZ-ad4OYiZeZrrM
@LSJUAN
@LSJUAN 4 жыл бұрын
Murphy's Law Garage again, where’s the proof that the REPLACEMENT jack stands are failing? you’ve stated yourself in this video that the casting on the teeth is better. That was the failure on the old units. You also mentioned that now there’s now a “zipper failure” in the weld. What you’re reporting is the same mass copied and pasted article that authors just changed a few words on regarding Mike Galli’s jack stand failure. A single reported failure.
@athhud
@athhud 4 жыл бұрын
LSJUAN you hit the nail on the head! This moron has just enough information to make himself look like an “educated” idiot.
@jeffro221
@jeffro221 2 жыл бұрын
@@LSJUAN Awe....little boy got triggered. You make no sense at all. Duhhhh.
@timhunt7830
@timhunt7830 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but I call BS. Maybe these things are failing sometimes but it is not because of an engineering design flaw. I have multiple brands including craftsman the old-school craftsman, with the exact same design as the harbor freight and they have not failed. The only difference I can tell between the harbor freight and craftsman is the weld. Craftsman has the weld on the outside and in your video harbor freight is on the inside. And as far as the lever goes I’m sorry but you cannot simply bump that lever and get it to fall while you have weight on the Jack stand. At least with the ones that I have. the harbor freight one I can’t speak to but it’s designed pretty similar it looks like. All the ones that I have if you have weight on it you cannot pull that lever up and get the “anvil “ to fall. That said, I do not disagree that this style of stand could be built in a way that reinforces it better. But I do not think that this style of stand is deadly because it does not have a brace across all four sides at the bottom.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
If it were built out of higher quality steel and welded with more care then the bracing would not be needed. Thats the whole issue here. A stand should NOT be able to fall if the pawl lever is bumped with weight in the stand, but the currently recalled stands can collapse if shifted or if the lever is bumped under load.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Harbor Freight Jackstand RECALL- Tested, Failure Analysis, Returned! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZ-ad4OYiZeZrrM
@athhud
@athhud 4 жыл бұрын
No matter the quality of steel or perfection of the weld, the failure mode will always be the same. The legs will buckle and the sheet metal will split at the weld because that’s where the tensile force is greatest.
@JoeGarofaloII
@JoeGarofaloII 4 жыл бұрын
I get your point man, and I'm pretty pissed at HF. However, what you said about bumping the lever on them has been proven to be false. There is a way to make a budget jack stands for cheaper that would last a lifetime, even if HF isn't doing so right now. I wish everything was made in USA and that was what people bought, but do you really think people are going to wait until they can save up 3x the amount of money before buying jack stands and working on their cars?
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
HF stands can be bumped and shaken to failure, thats why they were recalled and it was PROVEN in my last video. If people want to be cheap with their safety thats their own business.
@JoeGarofaloII
@JoeGarofaloII 4 жыл бұрын
@@MurphysLawGarage ah, interesting. I've seen some videos that disproved it, I'll have to check out your video
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, its easy to find its the only one with 6 figure views 😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZ-ad4OYiZeZrrM
@JoeGarofaloII
@JoeGarofaloII 4 жыл бұрын
@@MurphysLawGarage Checked out that video you mentioned. I see a lot of flaws with the argument based on the way you tested it. You put an amount of weight on each jack stands that I probably could have lifted with one hand and were able to easily knock around. Having even a light weight car on there instead of a corner of an empty trailer would be much different. I've seen videos where people put an actual load on the jack stands and can't get the lever to move even by using a huge pry bar. Plus anytime you put a car up on stands you should be shaking it to make sure that the stands won't drop before getting underneath it. That being said, I'm glad they made the new ones with beefier teeth to hold the stand up. I never had a problem with the old stands when used properly, and I don't expect to with the new ones either. Ideally would I rather use those awesome US made ones? Of course, and it's something to consider in the future. However, as I previously mentioned, it's going to be hard to get people to wait until they can save up 3 times the amount of money just to have jack stands so they can fix their car
@andrewsnow7386
@andrewsnow7386 4 жыл бұрын
@@MurphysLawGarage You did prove that some of the recalled ones could be bumped. They obviously were not safe. But have you shown the new ones can be bumped? I doubt they can be when there is a load on them. As can be seen at 6:21 in this video, the saddle must move upward for the ratchet to release. This prevents them from releasing when there is a load on them because you can't lift the load with that short handle. And, if you hit the handle hard enough (or put a cheater on it), the pin attaching the handle to the ratchet pawl will shear, if you have a significant load on the stand. In fact, you proved this too (but failed to acknowledge it) in your original video at 7:30. By forcing the handle, the shear pin broke as it should, and the stand held. In that video, you say "the pawl has actually come up". While I can see how you would think that, it is not what happened. The HANDLE moved up, but the shear pin broke allowing the pawl stayed engaged -- exactly as designed. This worked even with the relatively light load you had on the stand. With a higher load, it would lock even better. And, the much larger teeth on the newer stand should make the locking action less vulnerable to manufacturing errors. I appreciate you calling out the real problems they are having, but I think you should educate people on the safety features they do have.
@donaldhollums3278
@donaldhollums3278 4 жыл бұрын
Great film. As with the failure stories I’ve heard about the HF anvils; I reckon the paint and decals just ain’t strong enough to hold the items together.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I agree, lol
@H4zZ4rDGaming1
@H4zZ4rDGaming1 4 жыл бұрын
Murphy was paid for this advertisement
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Well first, no Murphy exists on the channel. Refer to Google for the meaning of “Murphys Law”. Secondly we were not paid, only sent that one product after WE approached USJ to promote a US product and only after hundreds of people asked us for a US product after our last video. That you might know if you watched more that just this video on the channel before commenting. Thanks for the viewership.
@toolhead147
@toolhead147 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much weight are they placing to make them fail, probably overloading them. I've had no problem with any of my Pittsburgh jack stands used over years.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Sports car for this one
@athhud
@athhud 4 жыл бұрын
Murphy's Law Garage up above you said it was a Jetta. So which is it, because a Jetta is not exactly what most people refer to as a sports car... Can we just go ahead and say that you really don’t know what the hell happened to this stand?
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
It was reported as a sports car then clarified to be a VW Jetta by the owner.
@athhud
@athhud 4 жыл бұрын
Clarified, but not verified. If there were a race for riding bicycles backwards, you would surely be a contender. I’ve never seen more backpedaling regarding a single topic.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Um, sure.
@cujoedaman
@cujoedaman 4 жыл бұрын
Despite the weld problem, US or Chinese made doesn't matter, ALL jack stands should be safety pinned. It's just stupid to rely on a simple pall mechanism to support weight in the tons. I don't care if it's US Jack or Harbor Freight, I'll stick with my stands with pins that ensure they can NEVER fall down from accidentally being bumped. The whole ordeal with the failing HF stands just proves this point. You wouldn't get under a car lift unless the safety pins were set in place, would you?
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Most car lifts have a ratcheting pawl as well. Ratcheting stands are perfectly safe as long as they are built well, but even a pinned stand could fail due to poor materials and welding. You have to trust not just the engineering, but its production as well.
@cujoedaman
@cujoedaman 4 жыл бұрын
@@MurphysLawGarage Yeah, I kinda equated that wrong, but the palls on the lifts act differently than they do on jack stands and are much more secure. They actually drop down inside the teeth and create a wedge for everything to rest on. I can see them in my mind and it makes more sense for weight distribution. I'm sure the US Jack stands are good too, just makes me cautious without that secondary mechanism there.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
I understand. If you physically inspected the double pawl on the US JACK you’d see its a wedge much the same as car lifts. It gets trapped so well when they are new I had to bump them on the ground to release them. Its hard to explain, but they just cant physically be forced to drop much like a pinned jack without crushing the whole stand.
@AllenReinecke
@AllenReinecke 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting to note that I have a pair of 2t and 3t jacks that are basically the same design as HF's, but the welds are on the outside... Torin Big Red and MVP Superlift. The Torin weld though doesn't end in a V, but has a short flat length. The weld finishes short and so the slight radius at the corners, where the two halves join, makes a V anyway! The Big Red does have a secondary pin to back up the pawl mechanism. Used them over many years without issue and there's no sign of fatigue cracks. Few outside of construction equipment design understand weld fatigue failure and the use of stress shadows! Funnily enough, I also have a pair of "inherited" jacks, whose rating I know not, which are very much like the US Jack design, but plates around the bottom. They do have a single pawl, but it's just a plain, short square sticking out that you lift out of engagement. Look on the internet and you'll see the HF design is the majority of jacks out there. No doubt they're all reviewing their manufacturing process!
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@slim56
@slim56 4 жыл бұрын
I have harbor freight jack stands that are over 30 years old. Same design and never had a problem. Sounds like KZbinr looking for a subject to talk about.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
The old stands are built better. The design isnt an issue unless they are value engineered to the point of being unsafe.
@JasonW.
@JasonW. 4 жыл бұрын
Horror Fraught Get quality pin based ones. Spend 10 seconds longer setting up and taking down. Or, keep up good life insurance.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
You can have a ratchet style if you get the US made units shown in the video. Please share the video to help get the word out! Thank you.
@JasonW.
@JasonW. 4 жыл бұрын
@@MurphysLawGarage True, and two tooth engagement is definitely better than the craptastic maybe/maybe not versions at stores all over currently.
@TestECull
@TestECull 4 жыл бұрын
Pin-type stands don't offer enough versatility in their height settings for modern use. I have a pair of them that are 40+ Years old, yes they're skookum as frig you'll never break them, but they're also a pain in the cock to use and I tend to go for my well made d-handle-style ratchet stands that are nearly as hold but much easier to work with. My pin-type stands give you four possible heights; 3 with the anvil and the 4th, lowest, is with no anvil at all. The ratcheting ones give 20+ settings.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Hey AVE
@TestECull
@TestECull 4 жыл бұрын
@@MurphysLawGarage Hah, not the man himself, just a fan of the vids and a mod of the subreddit. I'm half surprised he hasn't done a video on these stands. You know they're up there in the frozen hellhole of Hoth as well...
@chadwilliam1
@chadwilliam1 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks,
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome
@MattJonesYT
@MattJonesYT 4 жыл бұрын
Model numbers for those stands are D-41609, D-41610, D-41608, amazon link is www.amazon.com/US-JACK-D-41609-Garage-Stands/dp/B00P248OZC but is sold out
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
They are sold out until mid July, but use the coupon code now before it runs out August 1!
@dubcoco1
@dubcoco1 4 жыл бұрын
Just ordered a 6 Ton set from US Jack. Thanks Brother!
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome, thank you!
@cpot9818
@cpot9818 4 жыл бұрын
My replacement stands, one stand both sides the weld was nothing but porosity. Main issue is piss poor welding. 2nd set both stands the weld began late and ended early, not complete welded, but the problem I see is a weld that's full of porosity that will fail anytime you are dealing with structural. The problem comes from where they come from if China had quality control inspection, quantity over quality. Buy a set of us jack. It's not just harbor freight, look at many stands out there look exactly the same as these, coming from same factory there. Junk.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you’re right
@ramueller11
@ramueller11 4 жыл бұрын
Finding quality products is getting harder and harder thanks for providing a suggestion for an alternative to these.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@jonbeams9786
@jonbeams9786 4 жыл бұрын
I use my hf jack stands to hold my rider up only. 320-pounds. My Craftsman jack stands are doubled when used properly.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@snap-off5383
@snap-off5383 4 жыл бұрын
seems to be like that tough plastic packaging, as long as there's no inroads for a split, you can't tear them, but snip just an ever so slight cut, and it tears the full length easily. I never liked how they were depending on the strength of a weld on a mass produced product, it does look like they have a robot welding it which I guess can at least comparmentalize batches that the welder got off on. I imagine its a case of these will hold 12 tons when made properly and 0 tons when there's a defect. What I really don't like is the boiling it down to far too simplistic logic like "If it says 'made in USA' on it,then it won't fail." (not your words) At some point you have to turn your attention like you have to the design and make of the individual tool itself. Options abound depending on user, for some I'm sure its cheaper to shore up those $20 stands instead of blowing $140, for others the $120 doesn't equip them with a welder that is worth buying at that price point. . . but if you need 4 to put the whole car up $240 would. Probably not too difficult to bolt some strap across that seam, as a DIY project with a hand drill and a hardened bit, though you'd want your bolt/hole tolerance very tight for that application with high shear force bolts. When we do disaster recovery planning for IT we just beat the odds with multiple low odds events (very low likelihood of multiple remote locations with mirrored data to fail simultaneously), so I drive up on RinoRamps (Made in USA👊), and add jack stands, and add the jack. Now all 3 have to fail right now. And I STILL don't like being under there. Don't know how people in California do it with an earthquake, I'd need to go change my pants. I also like to buy oversized stands so I don't even need to bother with the ratcheting mechanism, using 6 ton stands in a 3 ton application, just means you're on the bottom already when you're jacked up well enough to get under the car. That helps with the pucker factor compared to having it on the top setting on little 3 ton guys.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@samgiancana420
@samgiancana420 4 жыл бұрын
So is only the 6 ton stands being recalled? Or the others as well?...I Have a pair of 3 tons
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
3/6 tons both
@Alex.AL_26
@Alex.AL_26 4 жыл бұрын
When I went to bring back my original ones I was thinking of buying a new set but they were out. I am glad they did not have any or I would have probably bought them. Will be buying jack stands somewhere else now
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
usjack-com.3dcartstores.com/3-Ton-Garage-Jack-Stand--BACK-ORDERED-UNTIL-MID-JULY-_p_22.html Coupon code MLG15OFF
@oldroscoe2590
@oldroscoe2590 4 жыл бұрын
Jack stands made from old Ford Model A differentials .... guaranteed for life.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds expensive, but about the most American thing there is.
@jeremywhite8978
@jeremywhite8978 4 жыл бұрын
They are not the only american company to make jack stands. Gray Manufacturing makes high quality stands,jacks and many other automotive parts and they are in St Joseph,Missouri. Get your facts correct.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Gray Manufacturing is a heavy equipment tooling manufacturer. They do have some lighter stands, but not something someone would normally be using for consumer vehicles and more so at double the cost of US Jack. That statement is obviously a generalization befitting the product in question. There are a few heavy industry jack/stand US manufacturers out there.
@trekzilladmc
@trekzilladmc 4 жыл бұрын
I've noticed the lack of a bead all-around even on my John Deere jack stands. I suppose you could weld them on the other side too, but then again, I wished they did that in the first place.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@handyhenry8654
@handyhenry8654 3 жыл бұрын
This influenced my decision to bite the bullet on a two post lift.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats
@yourmom-pi6jq
@yourmom-pi6jq 4 жыл бұрын
10 outta 10 this guy is a low key employee for american jack.......lol
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Well, its US JACK CO, but no they are just sponsoring the video.
@yourmom-pi6jq
@yourmom-pi6jq 4 жыл бұрын
6 of one way half dozen of the other.....
@turboflush
@turboflush 4 жыл бұрын
Never had a problem with my HF stands. Are they splitting under normal conditions? Or are they almost maxed out?
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Normal use, but because its a welding defect the failure will be catastrophic, and also hard to determine if its faulty. You may only find out once. Please SHARE this video and help support us and USA made products by buying your Harbor Freight RECALL replacement stands from USJACK.com, the only USA based jack/stand manufacturer left. Use our coupon code MLG15OFF for 15% off your order!
@JasonW.
@JasonW. 4 жыл бұрын
I've watched many lightning storms and never been hit with lightning. I've also had wood kick back on a table saw, without losing fingers. Some things are calculated risks. Considering how likely HF products are to fail, bad bet.
@Stefan_Smith
@Stefan_Smith 4 жыл бұрын
In his other video it failed under a light trailer
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
1.7 million currently. What was the failure of your US Jack stands?
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
You’re an adult capable of making your own decisions and none of our analysis were disingenuous. If USJ had a trash product I wouldn’t be here promoting it. Are you going to support a Chinese stand over these? Very few people want to move/store lumber for cribbing a vehicle, nor is it ultimately safe for people without good knowledge of engineering/leverage to attempt to crib a vehicle with tree carcass is softer than the steel its supporting and can easily fail as well. Good sense needs be applied to all of this, you cant just say cribbing. Who do you recommend they buy from? Did you contact USJ about those failures and do you have pictures? They need to know how it happened to try and prevent it.
@technicallybetter
@technicallybetter 4 жыл бұрын
When I go to usjack.com, Malwarebytes is blocking it saying there is a trojan on the site.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Its just a very old school SSL, the website is safe. Some would argue malwarebytes is the trojan.
@pecoswild
@pecoswild 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Great PSA. Thx for the coupon code and glad you are promoting USA made.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome, thank you!
@jameshembree2006
@jameshembree2006 4 жыл бұрын
You get what you pay for. I'm not gonna skimp on something that is keeping several tons from collapsing on me
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@m3vt2seffn
@m3vt2seffn 4 жыл бұрын
Everybody knows that once you go to harbor freight you buy any kind of tool you use it once and you throw it away I guess it's the same way for those jack stands to that's if they don't kill you first
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@unclecowboy2003
@unclecowboy2003 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing this
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome!
@rtz549
@rtz549 Жыл бұрын
The one that is painted black; nearly every detail is different then the stands of other colors.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage Жыл бұрын
They are
@donnyzapata1317
@donnyzapata1317 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I was going to buy some jack stands at harbor freight
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome
@JUKE179r
@JUKE179r 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for the video! Why can't jack stand manufacturers make 3-legged stands and not 4-legged? 3-legged stands are more stable under weight.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Im not sure of your reasoning for that, 4 points of contact are more stable than 3, not to mention stronger since it spreads the load.
@frankcee4342
@frankcee4342 4 жыл бұрын
I've read where the 4 leg stands wobble. I bought a set of Esco 3 legged 3 ton pin stands and they are very stable and solid. I have no second thoughts with them.
@athhud
@athhud 4 жыл бұрын
Murphy's Law Garage yes 4 points of contact are more stable. That’s why photographers and videographers use 4 legged TRIPODS. Give me a break dude. Stop talking out of your ass. 3 legs are and always will be more stable than 4 static legs. This was even common knowledge thousands of years ago...
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder why so many things we touch every day have 4 points of contact and not 3 🤔
@athhud
@athhud 4 жыл бұрын
Because squares and rectangles have 4 sides and 4 straight legs take up less area than 3 angled legs.... Therefore it is a more efficient use of space and costs less to ship. It damn sure doesn’t have anything to do with stability on uneven ground though. You think you’re being a witty little smart ass, but all of these “things” you refer to are typically being used on a flat surface where stability is easily achieved. Any portable device that is designed with stability as a top priority is typically designed with 3 legs or 4 legs that move to compensate for uneven terrain. I’d reference a pipe threading vise, but something tells me that you wouldn’t have a clue what that is. This isn’t rocket science. It is very basic physics. I am sure you wonder about a lot of shit...
@raptureremembered6967
@raptureremembered6967 4 жыл бұрын
I've always hated those HF jackstands! You even look in the direction of that metal lever and the thing collapses down in the wink of an eye, let alone these new failure reports.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@HaystanHopar
@HaystanHopar Жыл бұрын
Hi friend, What do you think of the Daytona jack stands with the locking pins now from harbor freight. I just got them and I’m a bit worried but I’m hearing good things about them. I believe harbor freight tools are getting better and better but safety and life is the most important and expensive.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage Жыл бұрын
I haven’t gotten to examine a set yet.
@r.deanmcknight136
@r.deanmcknight136 4 жыл бұрын
I've been buying tools and such from harbor freight for years and it's always been a 50/50 gamble on some stuff, just like any other place. But with something like jacks and jack stands, where safety is a major must, they'll lose a lot of repeat business if safety and quality is not an important thing. But also that what happens when products are made in another country that really despise this country. USA made is the way to go 🇺🇸🤘
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@wildestcowboy2668
@wildestcowboy2668 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dean you hit the nail on the head, they are making em weak for a reason. Stay strong and if it kicks off we have custom bunkers in Mississippi.
@r.deanmcknight136
@r.deanmcknight136 2 жыл бұрын
@@wildestcowboy2668 thats good to know since I live in MS lol
@wildestcowboy2668
@wildestcowboy2668 2 жыл бұрын
@@r.deanmcknight136 Awesome my friend, I've been keeping my powder dry and I'll have to say Tish co into muscle shoals Alabama will be the strong hold. LGB...
@r.deanmcknight136
@r.deanmcknight136 2 жыл бұрын
@@wildestcowboy2668 yep.... lock stock and 2 barrels waiting for a smoke break lol
@stauguastine
@stauguastine Жыл бұрын
Yes, bad welds happen in manufacturing, that particular weld did not get penetration so it did not bond the two pieces of steel correctly. Had it done that there would have been no issue or need for an addition gusset joining that side. Yes, I am a welder and have multiple decades of shop experience in welding, fabrication, and auto repair. Poor QC on those welds for sure. I agree with another commenter, I welded plates to the bottoms of all my stands, keeps them from sinking and gives them a lot more support.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage Жыл бұрын
You certainly shouldn’t need to modify a new safety device
@stauguastine
@stauguastine Жыл бұрын
@@MurphysLawGarage i certainly agree with that in total. Nevertheless, every person who uses safety equipment is responsible for inspection of that safety equipment to insure it is functional. If it is not then it is to be replaced or repaired if repairs are possible to bring it to specs. If I bought new jack stands and upon inspection found they are not to specs I would return them immediately and not use them. If one does not know how to check that then they need to learn. Good on you for making these videos helping DIYers out with that, that is a good thing to do. Seriously, that is awesome that you are doing that and thank you for that. Nevertheless, at the end of the day, I am responsible for every piece of equipment I use for the safety of others and my own safety. No one else should be responsible for caring more for my own safety than me. That's what I was taught more than 40 years ago when I started out in the business at my Uncles Shop and it still holds true to this day. I am now teaching my grandson that same ethic.
@that1fiddy_916
@that1fiddy_916 4 жыл бұрын
I found your video the other day and I just placed an order for some 6 ton US jack stands. Thank you! 👍🇺🇸
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome, thank you for the support!
@iwalker1985
@iwalker1985 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 3 жыл бұрын
No problem
@choochooman
@choochooman 4 жыл бұрын
I just went to US JACK.COM and my computers virus protection stopped me from going to their site due to a Trojan present. You might want to have them check out their site?
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Its a SSL certificate error, the site is safe. Just tell your antivirus to let you pass or use your cellphone. They know about the issue and are revamping the site. (Its very old)
@gmcjimmy3580
@gmcjimmy3580 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes pinching a penny can be very dangerous.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 3 жыл бұрын
It sure can
@mikefinto4048
@mikefinto4048 4 жыл бұрын
I'll just weld a plate on the bottom then. So all the feet are strong tied in
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
They’ve been known to deform and collapse like a wet noodle as well. Honestly, it just isnt worth finding out if they will be fixed like that. You might not get to tell us if it works.
@blipco5
@blipco5 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Finto - Or weld a tight angle iron box around the base.
@mikefinto4048
@mikefinto4048 4 жыл бұрын
@@MurphysLawGarage my cousin is a mechanic. He has several HF jacks. With plates welded never had a problem, I have never heard of one breaking like that. I'm fully certain improper use now.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Its a textbook zipper failure next to the weld. Its caused by low quality steel welded too hot. Its a defect. That weld SHOULD be stronger than the parent material and if it were improperly used, in that case you’d have a rip or buckle failure. Neither or evident.
@JasonW.
@JasonW. 4 жыл бұрын
@@MurphysLawGarage It's almost like you need to spend hours and many dollars worth of more metal and welding rods to make the cheapo HF jack stands work half as good as a good jack stand. Definitely not the Cockford Ollie
@999benhonda
@999benhonda 4 жыл бұрын
The US jack may be better made...but I laugh at anyone who acts like American made products are inherently better...because that just isn't true these days.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Some things yes, some things no
@jeffro221
@jeffro221 2 жыл бұрын
What are you smoking, RCPro?
@johnnydanger57
@johnnydanger57 4 жыл бұрын
There are probably 10's if not 100's of thousands of these jack stands out there . Seems if there was a problem, it would have been all over the internet for decades. So.................
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Its a recent issue, but only 1.7million units were recalled a month ago, now this.
@coreyscarrepairs
@coreyscarrepairs 4 жыл бұрын
You took off the sticker!!! That's what was holding it together, that's why it failed
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@kobyavery9408
@kobyavery9408 4 жыл бұрын
As a general rule, de-rate anything your trusting your life to by 50%. It says 6 tons? 3 tons max, preferably less than 2 tons. Honestly though, what are you lifting to put up to 12,000lbs on one stand?
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Jackstands are rates by the pair, so 6t together or 3t by themselves. Please SHARE this video and help support us and USA made products by buying your Harbor Freight RECALL replacement stands from USJACK.com, the only USA based jack/stand manufacturer left. Use our coupon code MLG15OFF for 15% off your order!
@jnkmal9519
@jnkmal9519 4 жыл бұрын
Not so sure that's en engineering mistake. Pretty sure that company trys to make garbage as cheaply as possible. NEVER go cheap on anything that could harm you.
@MurphysLawGarage
@MurphysLawGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Sure it is, you never put a weld on a sheer point.
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