URGENT PVP Changes - NEEDED

URGENT PVP Changes - NEEDED
#thewarwithin
/ supatease

[@la7era1u54]

The weekly "PVP needs urgent changes" video from you or Venruki. I think the players agree, but even after all these videos, I don't think Blizz is listening

[@mikes2106]

@@SteveHarvey272 Unless they personally know a lead developer in a place of actual power it wouldn't matter, sadly.

[@Altruistic-General]

@@SteveHarvey272 they’re not, they’re contractors just for AWC. That’s it. Think of it like a temp hire for a short term seasonal position.

[@mikes2106]

@@SteveHarvey272 I mean....they've been ignoring feedback for well over a decade. Remember "You think you do, but ya don't." Look up how long ago that was, then realize its been longer than that they've been blatantly ignoring feedback.

[@coryfessenden1102]

Because venruki and supa don't get views. Nobody actually cares about R1 players opinions

[@ChristianTDM]

1 hour ago Beast Mastery: Dark Ranger: Black Arrow damage decreased by 15% in PvP combat.

[@SteveBeck89]

Instead of uncapping conquest, if you already have a conquest item in that armor slot, other pieces in that same spot should cost honor, not conquest. This way you can get different stats if you want them!

[@194Gianluca]

This should be in from the start of the season !

[@kodyduvall349]

I was thinking this exact same thing a few days ago. It makes so much sense to do this so players can try different builds/specs without feeling like we need to level another character.

[@Alan-uy1iq]

Yeah this is a brilliant idea, also apply it to the marks aswell so you can craft gear and test builds

[@MarijuanaFireFighter]

this is a phenomenal idea

[@BasedChadman]

Love this. I hate having to make a separate toon to play another spec because the secondaries are vastly different.

[@pubadubgthreemeninatree8596]

blizzard needs to hire supatease as an independent contractor. other glads as well. would improve pvp so quickly

[@StevenNeidlein]

Facts my guy thanks for this comment

[@bivan2]

Whoever runs the game is brain dead

[@rookere1604]

100%, they are far more passionate about pvp and play the game far more at a far higher level than anyone at blizzard

[@HKono_]

So that they can all cry for buffs to their mains like every other player? No thanks

[@Minerals333]

@@HKono_this is exactly what the current devs do, except they’re 1200 exp

[@MI-wf1lw]

Sockets should cost 5k honor at max, 12.5k is insane.

[@oliverpanhans6156]

i mean if you constantly put in the pot for +15% honor its 10.625k only

[@MI-wf1lw]

@@oliverpanhans6156 I do that, but its still too mutch :D

[@pxkdrake]

Nah 12.5k is fine, gearing is super easy now so it's good to have actual progression still available in some form, also allows gold to be earnable a little bit thru pvp. The one thing that does need to change is precog needs to be baseline, or every char should get one socket free or greatly reduced cost after a quest like maybe do 3 bgs or somethin

[@Ernestas23]

It is fine.

[@MI-wf1lw]

@@Ernestas23Its fine if you play one charr, I play five right now :D

[@eltonazevedo1361]

i have done 28 RBG blitz, i won 21 times lost 7 and i am hard stuck 1600 rating fighting people at 2.200... this RBG rating system is bad and broken i should be 2.200 easy by miles away, then i go to see the ratings of people in the pvp site... there are people on 2.2k rating with 30 wins 40 losses.... like WTF is going on? this guy have 10 more loses than wins and have 2.2? and i have 21 wins with only 7 fucking loses? why i am hard stuck 1600? the others win 187 rating some 59 rating and i only win 8 sometimes 12 WTF is this? this game needs a big investigation in terms of *solo* shuffle RBG or arenas!

[@ItztoobadthatI]

im tired of winning and getting 20 rating and losing 40-50 when i lose

[@Castorcato]

That's because you lose more than you win. You need to go on a streak.

[@itsbalang1659]

@@Castorcato so if I have 3k mmr I need streaks to gain rating? It never worked like that buddy.

[@Castorcato]

@@itsbalang1659 if you have 3k MMR you'd know how the system works

[@Kanoog]

@@Castorcato You don't understand how a proper rating system works, you are trying to justify Blizzards blotched one.

[@whateverbro9002]

Yer should always get more for a win than you lose for a loss. Encourages folks to just keep queuing even if only winning 50%

[@dougclendening5896]

Unholy dk also needs scourge strike buffed. Recall that blizz just nerfed their hots AND death coil by 15%. Giving 10% back to death coil is still -5% down. Buffing scourge strike will bring actual pressure between goes and forces them to be in melee to do it, so it's not free. And honestly, comparing their dots to every other melee shows that their dots are currently underpowered.

[@TotalRejection]

their dots aren't underpowered though

[@Ktunec5]

Mb there is a point to nerf talent that basically send second coil to off target. But to make a significant buff to main target. This way they can provide to dk some single target dmg while keeping healthy cleave. For the moment dk is in terrible spot, completely unplayable.

[@TotalRejection]

@@cb1122-y7 the number of the individual tick is irrelevant. overall the dots of unholy do way more damage than the dots of other classes.

[@Millirawk]

​@@TotalRejection so close but that's not the entire picture. Other melee dots don't account for 20%+ of their overall damage unlike unholy. That's one of their primary damage sources even single target and it's gutted to the point where you can't build any pressure

[@dougclendening5896]

Unholy's dot damage is very low compared to a class like rogue or feral where those also have burst for killing power. I think the scary part about buffing unholy is that their 1.5 minute burst is more like a mountain of damage if you can apply it all, and over 20 seconds. It can kill a pally through lay on hands no problem, and forces a bubble. This is unlike the true "spikes" of damage that other classes get. Maybe their 45 second CDs should be buffed a bit.

[@piwi8090]

We holypriests really need more than just a mana reg buff 😢

[@SQLdb]

arms is still worst than fury and yet you suggest nerfing it? Arms is B+ / low A tier at best.

[@roylee5391]

His tier list and suggestion been pretty trash.

[@caemenium]

@@roylee5391 he has literally 0 idea about Arms and its current state

[@wmwwmw9547]

0 idea about arms

[@shoplifterrific]

Arms needs a complete rework. At the moment warr is not competitive in any bracket.

[@jamespond863]

I see issue with the bloody tokens and the socket system in this expansion. To get sockets for gear requires a lot of honor, it takes time to get and we don't generate much honor in rated pvp which disadvantages those who have little time on their hands and only have time for rated. This needs to be looked at as it leaves it less accessible for alts and less accessible for those who have limited time. Bloody tokens, after getting all the gear you possibly need there's no place to spend any excess tokens, there should be an opportunity to buy sockets with bloody tokens as it will give people an option to spend excess amounts, helps alt building, gives people a fairer chance and encourages world pvvp more. I think this needs implemented asap.

[@Kanoog]

Bloody tokens should be allowed to be spent on sockets. Sockets are by the WORSE gear design item, they don't give a ton of value, people need them but require the most work to get all of them.

[@vaylox09]

Sockets are so easy to get, if you think you're not winning because of some secondary stats then you might be bad.

[@draincatYT]

​@@vaylox09no they're not. I have over 500 solo shuffle games at 2k+ and only buy sockets via honor/gems (not gold) and I just got my 4th socket. Not to mention getting the forged gladiator heraldry to craft different off pieces. A lot of classes you can only play one spec, one dps spec, and if u wanna heal and dps ? Gg ya better reroll...you're going to need different offpieces To your 2nd point tho been at 2k since 1 socket.

[@dontreplytome5665]

Not sure what you guys are doing but I had max sockets first week and did. ot 3ven try.

[@jamespond863]

@@vaylox09 you didn't read my post and it does put you at a disadvantage no matter how small you think it is, I don't have the time to grind on multiple alts and I would like to play rated arenas, not have to do bgs. If sockets are not that important then there should be no issue making them easier to aquire.

[@GpDailyGames]

Fried on the holy priest... they need more help

[@FormoraDreamleaf]

Yeah... buffing 2 rsham heals and no hpriest heals.... Kinda fried. Hpriest IS pretty unviable though, still the only healer in the entire world with 0 people over 2400 in solo shuffle.... Need i say more?

[@Alan-uy1iq]

Yeah holy priest needs alot more than mana regen atm. The reality is you run out of juice very quickly and you're essentially pigeon holed into the same pvp talents every game, holy has some good pvp tals to choose from aswell but half you can't take up without dropping something critical. Personally I think they should make spirit of redemption a baseline holy talent you pick up in the tree, it'll open the doors massively for some variety in builds. Currently with MG being removed there's 0 room for aggressive builds in arena.

[@MrCodeman2036]

PvP Mounts each season 1600 Yellow Mount 1800 Purple Mount 2000 Green Mount 2200 Red Mount 2400 Golden Mount All mount colors can be earned in ANY Solo bracket, RBG’s, and 3v3…You can also earn all colors in 2v2 except 2400…Make a solid mount that looks cool every PvP season, and that will incentivize players to stick around to earn at cool mount in various colors… We all wanted the Rank 1 Red Mount from S1 of Dragon Flight…As it stands now, I know I’ll never get 2400 in a season so I give up after reaching 1800, and that’s one less person queuing each season… As a boomer dad gamer and having a lot more gaming options now, this will keep people motivated longer in each season for goals that actually feel obtainable…Instead of just the 1% of players

[@JS-skankhunt42]

100% agree with that and I love the idea

[@christopherfaulkner5821]

1%? You mean the .01% lol

[@majkatrojedjece6585]

They kind of have something like that, you gain elite mogs as you progress rating, and 1950 gives cool weapon illusion, 2400 gives the mount like you said, so yeah, imo better version of your good idea is in the game already, if they used your idea it would diminish value of 2400 mount with it just being different color of the same mount everyone can get. I agree that the mount should be obtainable in both shuffle and blitz not just 3v3 that only few ppl acutally play.

[@JS-skankhunt42]

@ you are wrong. The mount is only in 3v3 bracket. If you read his comments he said he would like a mount obtainable across all pvp contents BG, SS, 3s… In 3s at the moment you barely have anybody above 2.4K it’s just dumb. There is no point in making these mounts unobtainable. The mog like you said is just shit. You get it already though raid. And his ideas would please/bring back a ton of people for sure.

[@majkatrojedjece6585]

@@JS-skankhunt42 read my comment till end?

[@Millirawk]

@supatease you forgot more frost DK nerfs, at this point every ability for FDK should be nerfed at least 50% in pvp. half of them already have nerfs, lets make it 100%! I wanna do less damage than a fire mage without combustion

[@AlejandroCaicedoPUJ]

Thank you for this, this is the real issues blizzard is working on

[@rennawilliams25]

As a new frost dk main, it really feels awful to have such a fun spec and yet hit like a wet noodle. My only strong suit is CC and i get yelled at by rogues because i use it. Mediocre sustain, low damage. What are we good for :

[@Millirawk]

@@rennawilliams25 it's very frustrating. Really your only way of doing decent damage is cleaving during your pillar window

[@hellburdened]

Did you literally just not suggest even a single buff to frost dk? Jesus Christ supa.

[@Pajavoukcz]

and 10% death coil xD LMAO UH surely gonna jump to S tier LMAO :D

[@rennawilliams25]

My thoughts exactly. If blizz steals these, frost dk is gonna be the new fire mage

[@attinger117]

1) Crack down on win traders, real money boosting, and queue syncing cheaters. 2) Increase rewards for BG Blitz, including extra for healers. Also give healers more rewards in shuffle. 3) Fix MMR losses / gains. If you get put into a match far below your rating, you shouldn’t lose a ton of points.

[@meattwinkie6208]

Arms doesn’t need a nerf.

[@wmwwmw9547]

Arms is shit

[@andythompson1954]

Showing that even Supatease doesn't care about Frost DK, we get no love... 😥

[@AlejandroCaicedoPUJ]

IMHO as an unholy main, instead of buffing death coil they should buff necrotic wounds. Don't get me wrong, I love big death could as much as the next guy but necrotic wounds are tied directly to the spec identity and it would be a lot more rewarding for the core mechanics of the spec (specially since deseases don't do much anymore, necrotic strike is long gone and every melee has a huge slow in their arsenal). Buffing death foil in the other hand, just makes one button hit harder and that's it, it doesn't reward you for playing like an unholy dk being very active at manging wounds and deseases (and like 20 buff in this day and age) and could make fun talents like clawing shadows more viable. Either that or buffing pets would be amazing, cause feeling like a necromancer is the whole reason I play unholy

[@PossiblyJustARandomGuy]

I was with you until you said buff pets. I’ve been playing dk since wrath. All the best iterations of dk have been when your pet was only used for utility like the pet kick. We already have specs that fill the niche of being summoners and they do it better.

[@AlejandroCaicedoPUJ]

@@PossiblyJustARandomGuy yeah I just love pets, that's just my bias, that's why I put it in the very end

[@ARGOS-THOR]

I have been coasting on the game until conquest gets uncapped.. I've been wanting to reroll to hpal since patch but all my gear is already committed to ret paladin.

[@pxkdrake]

It's really not so bad going holy before having the right stats tbh, it still feels rly good, not to mention as you slowly start to get the right gear u feel way more powerful which is very nice,

[@Thomess1337]

Im glad youre not in charge supa. Just by seeing the arms changes i can tell your incompetence. Your a good host tho.

[@CrazyRIQ]

Idk about the arms warrior proposed nerf. The damage is kind of lacking and IP could use a 20% buff. Rend doesn’t do anything .

[@wmwwmw9547]

Arms needs buffing and rework asap

[@rosszorn]

If blizzard would take the time to explain the changes they intend to make like Supatease does here, then less people would get frustrated with the developers and the decisions that they make.

[@pxkdrake]

Exactly, because from the outside in it just looks like they aren't even thinking. Maybe that is the case but well never know if they don't actually try, there's quite a few things here I disagree with supa about but at least he's showing how he came to these conclusions

[@deviin6996]

I had my initial 1 month of fun of PVP at the release of TWW. And now I’ve already quit, it gets boring pretty quickly 😕

[@Kanoog]

Once you get all BiS it feels useless to play till the last few weeks when CAP IS LIFTED. Gate keeping people isn't the way to make them play longer, it makes them quit.

[@FadedKai]

I quit bgb after I got monk , Paladin, Druid, to 1650-1750 cr with a mmr of 2000-2100 on all three. On losses you lose no cr but mmr goes down a lil but wins get roughly 15-20 cr rating and it became such a slog to gain rating when every game is so hard to win and team comp can basically decide the game. My worse win rate was on Paladin with a record of 19/12 when I got to 1600 and cr gain hit the floor. My best win rate was monk(ww)at around 17/5 when I hit 1600.( monk is what I pushed the highest on but playing at 2100 mmr gaining a lil over 15 rating after hitting 1600 is horrible, I started playing at 2100+ mmr around 1480 cr, the rating gain was fine till I got 1600cr)

[@RaggokOozo]

I think they are capping CR gains in Blitz due to how easy it would be to duo queue boost someone. People would just be buying MMV and then ride to whatever CR that takes them to until they start losing CR for losses again. If they want to go higher, just buy another MMV boost. Low CR gains makes it harder for them to gain as much out of having their MMV artificially inflated. It sucks for sure, cheaters always make things harder for the honest player because systems put in place to make things harder for cheaters hit them too.

[@ziggs123]

Boosting isn't cheating first of all, in that case it would be easier to just nerf mw mobility

[@Kanoog]

Logic doesn't work, people can ALREADY duo Q in Arena and also do 3s, Pikaboo is always playing with randoms pushing their rank. What they need to do is REMOVE DUO Q from SOLO Q and add in a DUO Q bracket.

[@RaggokOozo]

@@Kanoog The big difference is that it is not enough to just get a MMV boost in arena. The booster would have to continue to play with them for that player to get CR, because if they don't the boostee will probably lose every single game playing at a MMR higher than where they belong. That isn't the case in Blitz where a person can get carried by their team enough to actually get rating. All they need is a MMV high enough so they don't lose CR when they take a loss.

[@Kronosbattlemaps]

I dont think DH needs damage. Just more survivability. And boomy needs 2 charges of frenzied regen or something.

[@ziggs123]

Or make the auto frenzy proc 60sec cd

[@Kanoog]

As a DH main I agree, the reason why he thinks DH damage is low is because they are dying fast or running instead of dealing damage.

[@pxkdrake]

This is one of the main things I disagreed with as well, and it shows how hard it can be to balance all classes when you don't play them all enough. Demon hunter damage is mostly fine what it desperately needs is AN ENITRE HERO TALENT REWORK and defensives, preferably something that can be used in stuns. I will never play my dh again so long as aldrachi reaver is meta and in that play style it's absolutely garbagio

[@pxkdrake]

But tbh I do kinda have hope they are working on a hero talent overhaul for dh because they have been literally untouched for awhile now other than a blanket dmg increase of like 5 percent I think a month back, so the naive part of me thinks they could be putting off changes for a future rework

[@1khelad]

the catalyst charges being used for pvp and pve needs to be removed there should be a separate catalyst charge only useable on pvp items. this would stop people from having to choose between pvp and pve on each character. it would also make it easier for poeple to join in on pvp whilst still progressing with their raid or m+ group.

[@cherubic2312]

Hello! Warlock here! I think destroy damage is in a pretty good spot..I’d say the issue is the way we have to build up our damage. It requires 2 soul shards for a chaos bolt for a 1.5-2 second cast based on your haste..personally if they would maybe just extend the duration on our conflags and our shadow burns and maybe make them feel more meaning full in the sense if maybe nerf the initial damage but increase the duration and damage over time of it. Also I think if they reduced the cost of chaos bolt by 1 will help as well..The current play style of it is to spam reign of fire to get the overlord because it’s 3 shards per reign and at 15 we get our overlord. Especially because mages don’t really need to worry about having any sort of “shard” for there big casts and they are mostly instant casts anyways..So in my mind some good help for destroy would be A.] reduce the cast time of chaos bolt or B.] reduce the cost of chaos bolt to 1 to help. Just me though

[@jorginhobritto1250]

i agree a lot! mage dont need any shard to big dmg alltime and free

[@chrisk1458]

Idk, if cb has no shard cost then it shouldnt deal alot of dmg. Make cb cost 2-4 shards, the longer the cast, the more dmg it deals. Chaosbolt should be the hardest hitting ability in the game...

[@Alan-uy1iq]

My mains destro and I think the longer time on conflag is needed. It's a very frustrating spec to play as it feels like you have to get through so much to even get bolts off. Once you do, the damage is decent but generally teams can recover and then you're back to getting through multiple stuns, kicks, totems etc..

[@PossiblyJustARandomGuy]

Some really cooked takes here. Like reeeeeeaaaalllllly cooked. Nerfing arms and ele?!? You want to buff havoc damage more than dk damage?? Only nerfing bm’s black arrow by a little bit?? So fried.

[@brandonpoore4869]

I think they should change the cooldown of fury warriors wall being on a 1.9 min cd to a 1.5 min cd to better align with most classes burst, and give D stance a buff by 5% for arms / fury which follows with damage reduction while in defensive stance Gives us the option to play more tanky with 20% static wall but at the cost of 20% overall throughput

[@Greyshred]

Did anyone else grind for the 2500 conquest to be able to buy weapons, buy the weapon after getting it and then finding out you get free weapon tokens after you’ve equipped your weapon? Prolly just me

[@RobertRetea]

Arms warrior one shotting people?... ha?

[@wmwwmw9547]

XD

[@Johnehjustjon]

Arms is one-shotting? In rated? Ain't no way. The only change MS needs is to have it's healing reduction either fully or partially restored in PvP. 50% in PvE is stupid. Reset changes are just Band-Aides for Arms, it needs a rework. Ignore Pain needs to be baseline and Storm Wall needs to be dramatically buffed or re-designed. Our rotation is clunky af and unless our bleeds are going to be on par with Feral bleeds, no thanks. Something other than the "bleed spec," like idk maybe bring back big white damage for Arms. Bake in some old school weapon spec talents, without the weapon requirement, of course. Arms needs some 2024 love. SoD and Cata both have better Arms lol Retail should be carrying that torch!

[@wmwwmw9547]

Arms rework soon

[@Eityhdz]

leave enhance alone supa your main just got two stacks of incarn now thats op

[@BasedChadman]

As for tanks, they're doing competitive dps right now, so the change I would make is: 20% extra damage taken in arena, but in blitz, 20% less damage taken (so you can actually tank) Being a livelord in arena is cringe, but the auras need to be separated between content types

[@toptechtowing6340]

Since they removed pvp from weekly vault it should be uncapped earlier for sure

[@Johnulux]

Stay away from Mortal Strike !

[@wmwwmw9547]

RIP arms

[@ChristianTDM]

1 hour ago Beast Mastery: Dark Ranger: Black Arrow damage decreased by 15% in PvP combat.

[@Kultyras]

Throwing random % modifiers out of thin air is what damage the pvp balance the most. Blizzard used to do that while trying to copy Riot Game way of getting data on how to "balance" but wow, at least pvp wise, its waaay different. The PvP is a little bit complex since you have to take into account that not everything is about TOP'ING THE METERS, what do matter its to have a timed burst while your opponent doesnt have or cant activate defensives, while being able to CC while it matters is a plus. I have a feeling that most ppl here wants the kinds of "balance" that make their class shine on the meters, instead you should be focusing in the windows of opportunity that each class has and evaluate them accordingly. For example as a Feral Druid, if you pop Incarnate, you can do an absurd ammount of damage, and we got to this points just because of random % bonus damage

[@breadmanfun]

My buddy said conquest was going to uncap last reset and he was so mad that he was wrong 🤣😭

[@Spiritt_Daphiti]

Tip: DK UH San'Lyan Gift of San'lyan, Vampiric Strike also apply for each deseise not only for 1 but for all . Cuz is hard to keep 3 not to mention 6 ( cds ) and Rune of apocalypse! Your pet apply all runes of apocalypse , but when is enraged . Unholy San'Lyan can really have the feeling of using Cds ... When supposed to be the Blood of Qeen / aka Vampiric Strike buffed damage from effect of DoTs .

[@Athamos]

which rating warriors are "one shoting" with mortal strike?

[@Eliteninja007]

UH 10% wont be enough tbh. Maybe the whole class needs a kinda rework

[@AlejandroCaicedoPUJ]

It felt great at the start of the expansion but as usually ir can't be good for more than two weeks

[@Eliteninja007]

@ yes. At last it was between the playable and enjoyable classes. Now even tank specs better :D lol. I was maining dk since bfa, but its so disgusting this always happen, so i rerolled. Ppl cry bcz of DK how “overpowered” bcz they cant play and dont like to be gripped, while warriors hitting 2m mortal strikes 🙃🙃

[@GrozdanGR]

No resto druid changes ?

[@Kanoog]

Resto Druid has been shit this entire expansion, I can't remember a time when it was this bad.

[@NewVision3160]

So many people that came back for blitz have already left do to que syncing and on top of that the punishing mmr. Que sync is a hot topic, there is allot of money involved with it. If they fixed the mmr i could deal with the que sync much better.

[@ShamWowlol]

I was super excited with the changes that shaman were getting especially with the look of the new ascension (big hair look)Then just like always the community hated the big hair and had a major voice in changing a spec that they clearly didn’t play. The coolest thing about the form would’ve been being able to even tell when ascendency popped. ( Now neutered look) With that said before the changes; intended or not it would pop once a minute for a few seconds a burst of super fast play and then return to normal. Now, it never pops in combat Period. Meaning you have to have another key bind + since the player base is better it is more for looks. Everyone gets the heck out of the way and then resumes play once it’s gone. So being an Enhancement main I’m confused by the need to nerf the ability. More than that comes from wind, (the vast majority of enhances power). Supa- , you’re talking about not being heavy handed. Then I would assume you’re not naive to air being our power . Ele you can abuse ascendency which I know you’re aware of, but enhance is finally in a decent spot instead of being laughed at as a viable spec. ✌🏼Most✌🏼have an issue with enhancement because you can’t just spec 5 on your board and spam it it’s tougher to learn admittedly, but let’s not kill it because of carpal tunnel 😢

[@Ernestas23]

Warrior suggested changes are cooked.

[@wmwwmw9547]

Hahaha nerf mortal strike lol more like immortal strike doesnt kill shit

[@ANimouz]

DONT NERF! ONLY BUFF! If everyone is strong nobody complains.

[@Adam-uh8rj]

Agreed with your take on Destruction Warlock, it definitely needs buffs. But let's not overshoot it so then it gets nerfed too hard and become unviable, ty!

[@Ndstructible]

the problem with these healer changes is with buffing shaman to be viable in pvp you increase thier dominance in pve. So for all these changes add the pvp modifier to them so it doesnt effect pve.

[@nikosstellatos8558]

1. Boomie needs nurf to starfall 100% 1 skill all dmg in RBGs... Not even talking about teams that have 3 boomies stacking starfalls (vomit) 2. If DH get these buffs it will be 3 DHs in rbgs instead of 3 boomies or just DH/BOOMIE and 1 rog Good luck...

[@Nemenon]

As a DH player while some damage buffs could be nice, I think I'd rather see something to our survivability. Our healing is amidst the lowest of all DPS specs as well. I think something defensively would be better. My idea would be buff the auto blur talent so it procs at 50% instead of 35%. At 35% it's already too late and we're in execute range, so that proc is doing much especially at 5 second duration. Also they could instead buff the damage reduction a further 10% so its 40% total, vs without the talent is just 20%. I think this could work because Netherwalk is still a very strong talent and it's difficult to not play it, so this could give us better options, especially against melee heavy comps since it's so easy for us to die in stuns. I'd also like to see some buffs to our Soul healing, because right now it does next to nothing, and all our healing comes from Leech (which also does next to nothing outside of our burst).

[@christopherbeyer1263]

Even supatease forgot about Aug evoker

[@davidschultz2198]

Nerfing frostfire empowerment would make fire mage even worse

[@david47618]

Nerf arms warrior MS?? Do you even play warriors? Sorry, but this guy is clueless

[@wmwwmw9547]

100%

[@froztbiten11]

Nerf bm but leave Feral alone ? Your cooked supa.

[@jeff230394]

Feral is actually hard bro you just suck lol ez

[@johnwelch9661]

Feral takes skill bm is one of the easiest classes

[@chrisk1458]

​@@johnwelch9661yea spreading bleeds so hard omg, pressing convoke after getting their trinkets so hard wooow

[@johnwelch9661]

@@chrisk1458 harder than jumping around spamming kill command

[@chrisk1458]

@@johnwelch9661 actually no, hitting traps isnt that easy and kiting always harder than chasing

[@peter19911]

They did the accelerated gains in cr to MMR at the start of the season in blitz, that's how people got 3k in the first few days

[@avirian6589]

The only changes that need made, are making healers fun and feel impactful. OR, make a 2v2 SS queue for only dps. So dps players can actually play the game. But WoW players hate change, even if it's good, so probably won't happen.

[@SteveRulez00]

I think the mmr/CR of bg blitz is good as it is. Since it is 8v8 (unlike arena), it is very easy to for a player to go on a win streak while not actually contributing to the win. It is good the mmr will quickly move and put you in high mmr games so that good players quickly start getting in games with other good players. But because of the 8v8 format, bad players will also go on win streaks and get put in games above their skill level (which they will likely lose). CR should slowly adjust to mmr in bg blitz so that players don't have their CR shooting up and down based on lucky win/loss streaks. That doesn't happen nearly as much in arena as each player has much more control of their outcome.

[@BasedChadman]

Incinerate needs about a 20% damage buff to be worth anything at all. For a hard cast, it's absolutely awful. It's already extremely difficult to fire off any chaos bolts outside precog windows, so hard casting Incinerate needs to be worth it, and it simply isn't.

[@rennawilliams25]

Disc needs tuned down. Feral needs tuned down. Frost dk needs a buff.

[@Kyungneh]

I was sitting at 1300 last night on a newly leveled shadow priest, after winning 7 games in a row, it threw me in to a 2k+ lobby, lost the game, but didn’t lose rating.

[@andremtb480]

Got glad in s3 and s4. Quit about two weeks ago after 11.0.5 - not worth dedicating my life to a game that the developers don’t care about. Keep fighting the good fight Supa, but I don’t think I’ll be coming back. Or if did I’d just play Mythics. It’s so sad, PvP has so much potential and is amazing when it’s balanced. But I can’t invest my life into a game mode that blizzard deprives of minimum updates. I’m sure it’ll get better in a month or two but it’s been ages since season 4 which was the last time the game felt playable in PvP for me.

[@np8196]

unholy dk needs the nerfs reverted (except doomburst) and a buff on festering wounds + clawing shadows to give uh dk a reason to pick clawing shadows / or a heavy pet buff, frost in general needs an complete overhaul or buff of the sustain damage by alot

[@deathboundtv]

Blizz doesn’t give a fuck about anything but making a quick buck, I think it’s over boys, at least for us that have to drain ourselves looking for a team every season.

[@neptune7426]

Buff frost and unholy main abilities damage by 10 across the board. Obliterate, howling, frost strike, death strike, scourge strike, death coil - all of these need immediate 10% buff on hard damage

[@Mnw336]

Hard disagree with the hpal nerf suggested. 10% to holy shock without buffing flash of light would be way to big of a nerf and they would def not be competing with disc or mw right now. Buff the other healers rather.

[@altaspantelis]

At least a healthy set of changes. Well done!

[@BeastMastery]

Remove rating and bring back arena marks. Makes it grindable. Make some sort of tournament queue with cosmetics for the fully geared and save rating for that mode.

[@dimodimov3626]

total ZERO chance lizard do something like that, more likely any new mount for around 100-150$

[@beben9879]

Fire mage need a buff !! I got legend last saison. And this saison fire suffer a lot ..

[@milenb8401]

Earth shock is the only closer ele has post mastery nerfs. I don't think this is necessary.

[@ed6852]

Remove cooldown from greater heal on holy priest and fix their mana that will make them viable.

[@MrDusteybowls]

I’d rather be no gear and just have transmogs like other MMO‘s in 2024.

[@Tyzen7]

11:45 lmao, nerf Windstrike why? Its SO easy to counter Enhance Stormbringer burst. Thats the only thing good about it is their Ascd window. ALSO THEY SHADOW NERFED WINDFURY BY 50% AND DIDNT TELL ANYBODY ABOUT IT.

[@tylerstevensx]

Hey supa, have you ever discussed having a ban for each team in the awc? Seems like that would mix things up and be more interesting than seeing teams all play fotm specs.

[@joeydes9666]

Idk about giving holy paladin mana increases. Last night I was playing with a guy on my marksmanship hunter and he was on a destro lock. We were in a Korraks Revenge and the paladin we were fighting wasn't loosing mana. I don't know if I was bugged or anything but I had mortal strike on him decreasing his healing, we timed our burst rotations together and the dude never lost mana. If someone could explain why that was happening that would be awesome. I'm also taking in consideration that my marks doesn't do much dmg to plate wearers rn, but that still doesn't explain not ever loosing mana.

[@jdstko1]

There is zero reason to play this game until about week 10. Just wait for boxes, conquest uncap, MMR inflation

[@know_Name]

why dont mythic + players lose rating.

[@rennawilliams25]

Did this man say mm needs to be buffed in the first 30 seconds? Hot damn…

[@jeremy5077]

The biggest problem with pvp is queue times

[@Axxalol]

conquest should have been uncapped 3-4weeks ago

[@justtellmethetruth7377]

Elemental needs buffs not nurfs, in terms of damage they are middle of the road.

[@justingrenier1610]

I think nerfing anything about enhance is a cooked take Too easily countered, too easily kited And enhance has a good SS lobby maybe once out of every 20 matches

[@MrAND1990]

After I loose against disc priests passive healing with shields the fist Weaver range was implemented. I need 24 globals with my rdru to have the same output. So now I quitted, zero fun at all.

[@danielharo2651]

Winning games at 2800 mmr in blitz and getting 20 pts a win. It’s so dumb, it’s taking forever to climb

[@shugguls]

Did I miss the ww suggestions or do u actually think there fine …

[@Gorkev82]

Hpal doesn't need nerfes , it needs a cooldown reduction time when you spent 3 holy power it reduces the cooldown of wings with 10 sec , every hpal knows this , you don't know the struggles of a BE hpal , we cant even melt man , what you talking about 10 % of the shock , you need to find the light my friend

[@shmand]

Give 2v2 Healer/DPS single round rated solo shuffle and switch 3v3 solo shuffle to 1 round and be done.... Watch more people come in like hot cakes... TO MUCH TIME IS BEING SPENT WAITING AND PLAYING 6 ROUNDS OF SOLO SHUFFLE!

[@EmreYuus]

Alone only uncap conquest could be enaugh 😂 blizzard isn’t that smart anymore. They think with capping ppl will play more alts and spent time for game. But with uncap they would x2 times more online (pvp players). But we see Blizzard doesn’t care about PvP fans. You should make a Supatease version of WoW 🔥🔥😂😂

[@simondinko6687]

Being so tired of blizz you start doing their homework

[@carlodefalco13]

Yeah dude I miss playing Arms

[@mickycala]

There have been more updates and patches to classes in War Within than in all expansions since 2005. Every week a new metà class. Shame

[@jbohh]

Another week of “PvP is dying/dead” not only supa is guilty of this I’ll add

[@prowessjen]

if u nerf holy shock by 10% holy pal is down to B tier again. yes because unless you are willing to buff other healings there is no point nerfing.

[@WilliamKirkevold]

I don't think you can nerf holy shock. It's instant heal is all its got and the dmg that goes out requires that kind of healing. You have cds, but as far as throughput, after the nerfs you are sometimes starved on holypower if you compare to when it was god. It's still really good don't get me wrong. I just don't think nerfing it is the way to go for player retention. Disc and monk can often challange palas now on throughput and cds. You do have to buff rsham and holy priest though. Id rather see them buffing other healers than nerfing holy with the dmg being so high. Otherwise i would probably play league :< I main hpal, but play all healers. Since its basicly 1v1 in shuffle, and healers are in low demand, having healer balance is really important. It's also important that all healers feel strong in comparison to dmg going out, not equally weak. It's also important that warriors hit hard as their uptime can be bad, at least for new players. You kind of suggested the opposite changes for arms / dh, which does not make sense in my mind. Melee should hit hard when they connect and press a spender.

[@bravos2709]

Wtf, no buff to arcane / fire mage? it suck in pvp atm, whenever get buffs whole community start crying on all forums....

[@Kultyras]

Check aeghis

[@bravos2709]

​@@Kultyras yeah, i know him, what about him? he's pro player, mainly playing frost, here and there arcane/fire which confirm what i just say

[@JunkyCube]

Inflation is a really shitty Band-Aid to a much larger problem. I think its worse for the game. 1800, 2100, 2400 - all these numbers are completely meaningless. Not between seasons but between weeks. ~2k mmr pre injection you would see multiple R1s in every lobby. Post injection 1800 is free? Just feels stupid.

[@itsbalang1659]

Uncapping conquest will hugely boost ques, but I’ll be honest there barely any rated 2s 3s.

[@john-paulmathieu7195]

I only play twos and I couldn't believe how last saturday night at 1am my friend and I were waiting 5-6 mins per match. Granted, at the time we were like 800 rating (we were 1 and 13 as arms warrior + unh dk) but still. After switching to fury and dk and us getting up to the 1300s the queues went back down to 1-2 mins. Every expansion for the last 12 years or so have been near instant queues and 1 min queue times felt like a lot previously.

[@itsbalang1659]

@ yeah bro it’s horrible! now imagine at 2k+ rating

[@j4ywalker927]

Supatease for PvP dev!