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[@WillEmmo]

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[@TopOfNewYork90]

Elite PvPers Forum

[@audiofun1]

All I wanted was TBC fresh. And what I got was classic classic 2024 -> TBC . I guess I'm playing vanilla again

[@yourdreams2440]

Vanilla hype!

[@91Animeguy]

Yea I feel the same way.. but hey, at least its comming.

[@patricspooner3941]

Where were you during the already fresh tbc two years ago?

[@xSiC84]

I will play vanilla casually, will level a few toons and farm gold for tbc. If I raid it will be pug, but I will gear whatever I have in the best dungeon/crafted gear I can and just farm up gold.

[@Mrdnz-ll1uh]

Same

[@nairav9156]

To be honest if you get a sub play 1-2 months and enjoy the leveling journey to 60 while the leveling zones are busy, then you got your moneys worth. I often join fresh just for that, if it strikes me fancy I continue my journey raiding like I did in 2019 all the way to TBC Phase 2. Or SOD till Phase 3. But I also leveld to max level in season of mastery and at hardcore launch because it was fun with all the players around, didn't do raiding in either was just there for the hype doing group quest and lots of dungeons

[@Thrall966]

1-2 months isn’t enough for me to get to 60😂 and I play 16 hours a day . Call me a noob

[@Kracklezz]

@@Thrall966 nothing worse than a no-life who is dogshit at the game... 2 months?

[@riv3ra625]

@@Thrall966everybody moves at their own pace As long as you enjoyed it!

[@Thrall966]

@ hopefully I will !

[@nyoin2028]

Yeah, usually what I do to feel the burn again. My only problem is dropping other obligations I've already had planned. A couple more months out I wouldn't have complained. This soon though I'm scrambling.

[@brentsteven4944]

fresh classic is exactly what me and the boys wanted, it going into TBC is just icing on the cake

[@noheartfourteeneightyeight]

got a guild i can join?

[@VegardLa]

Yep 🥹🥹🥹🥹

[@RockerBoy20045]

'the boys' is just about the most cringy way of referring to your friends lol

[@fizkarn6358]

@@RockerBoy20045 nah thats the way to go, what do you say? Me and my fellow men?

[@timibo971]

​@@RockerBoy20045not as bad as the bros!

[@AlphaSmoke100]

they need to leave behind tbc era realms if they are just gonna keep repeating these 3 expansions over and over. they should just let us keep our toons in whichever expansion we choose

[@Demonsouls1993]

the fact they keep refusing to give TBC and WOTLK era tells us they arent listening

[@_kostant]

For real.. can we just vote to rerelease TBC and WotLK every few years and skip classic altogether? SoD was nice, but I can’t play another whole, phased, classic launch.

[@AlphaSmoke100]

@@_kostant nah they should still have a cycle vanilla-wotlk. but more importantly they need to keep perma tbc and wotlk era servers up indefinitely

[@bunbunnybunbunbunnybae9587]

Yup. Stop endorsing expansions, they are NOT classic, they are NOT the same game and they are just *flying mount to node, fly off, flying mount to node, fly off* thats literally 80% of TBC.

[@Blacknotpanther]

You want era realms but wont play it.

[@lorencoferk3531]

Dual spec or lower respec cost is much needed this time around!

[@julien1]

there is lower respec cost + non degrading honor pvp ranks.

[@lorencoferk3531]

@julien1 100g is too much for a week

[@L2PlayMusic]

I think they changed it to 10g per respec max right?

[@julien1]

@@L2PlayMusic I cant rem wht ERA and SOD was but yeh alot less and it diminshes over time backwards depending on how many specs you have done and in wht time frame.

[@Lokuzdeckel]

you guys do not understand. lower respec cost would mean even more inflation. its one of the only real ways to remove gold from the eco

[@Stormy_Fairweather]

the problem was never buying gear with gold... it was buying gold with money.

[@lucianocortes8636]

This will only hurt players with limited time, whales will still buy tickets to get carried. Big L, won't be playing because of that.

[@user-lo3bq5py1h]

@@lucianocortes8636you don’t want to play because you can’t buy gear with gold you bought online? Crying because you can’t pay to win😂.

[@shwaaank]

@@lucianocortes8636 then this game is clearly not for you

[@PedroIgori]

@@lucianocortes8636 if you dont have time why the hell are you playing an MMO, let alone a old grindier MMO

[@mrretired2715]

You can still buy gold with money.

[@raminMTL]

Can’t wait to get all hyped up, get bored by level 25 and stop playing again

[@TheWowzz]

This is the story of my life😂 with a 9-5 i have 0 interest in leveling again, I reckon I’ll quit before level 10 but as of now im kinda hyped 😂

[@Gigantar62]

then whats the point bro

[@brandonyoung4910]

The loop continues

[@gliboperuta9213]

i usually quit at like level 14 lol. its the slowly running on foot that really gets me. i just cant enjoy playing like that. also causes painfully slow leveling. they should give everyone joyous journey buff from the start to ease the pain and compensate for faster content cadence.

[@dslims1]

No reason to play for a few hours if you already know you are going to get bored....just move on dude.

[@DadGamer247]

W for Blizz's stance on GDKPs. I hope they follow suit for all versions of WoW.

[@UserrHD]

No GDKPs will ruin the experience for 90% of the playerbase and no one will want to play. Servers will be dead in a month.

[@Knocktoff]

Yeah, he kinda lost me in saying "there's undeniably more raid groups when there is gdkp" which is baseless, as well as he didn't show any proof? It's only been done in SoD which has had a more than healthy raiding scene based on ironforge pro metrics

[@shawnk7720]

@@Knocktoff bro they happened when vanilla launched and it negatively affected the economy

[@tomfoolerey]

So you hope less people play the game? Smart.

[@SergioSanchez-ig4uj]

@@Knocktoffit’s the only reason era servers have some what of a population and cata has a huge gdkp scene as well..

[@Dominus4776]

They didn't want to split the player base. Now we have 4 versions. 5 in a year

[@andreiadelinspataru526]

i want a permanent server on Wrath of the lich king and TBC...to can play for forever my favorit expansions!

[@Razorhunter9]

You can try Warmane, they have a permanent WoTLK realm and a progressive realm (currently on TBC) all the way to WoTLK.

[@user-kk7ju5fm7g]

Please remove the buff and debuff limit

[@llwonder]

I'd play resto druid if this happens

[@user-kk7ju5fm7g]

@@llwonder Resto druid it´s still op cus you don't have tier competition.

[@xen2241]

@@user-kk7ju5fm7g the reason you dont have tier competition is because you dont stack them in raids -- hots dont stack they overwrite themselves (the higher spell power druid will always overwrite the lower spellpower one) that is why there is no tier competition -- because anyone bringing more than 2 resto druids is kneecapping their raid -- they only have ONE other viable spec and it requires a massive amount of consumes, 30 MCPs a week and ZERO tier (and even then.. prot warr is MUCH better) ** and you DO NOT want tier, only one piece of tier is BiS in P1-2 .. and NO tier is BiS in any tier after -- its not even that its not BiS.. its just straight up not even good

[@user-kk7ju5fm7g]

@@xen2241 Yes, but there aren't that many druids either.

[@xorphz]

​@@user-kk7ju5fm7gThere would be if they could hot up people

[@NickPlays95]

I just wanted fresh TBC so badly. However, I will be playing fresh vanilla to prepare for TBC. I’ll level 3-4 toons casually, dungeon gear max / farm some gold for my mains epic flying in TBC

[@theobituaryoflife8639]

Exactly the same thought mate, I kinda like its progressing so I can prepare better for tbc 😂

[@bannerjay3347]

same! TBC classic was the first time I got in touch with an older version of the game and I only played vanilla after that. I like TBC way more tbh and I don't think I'll be playing too much vanilla but I will definitely use this opportunity to prepare for TBC

[@cameronlogan3377]

Lvl alts to 60 get cool mounts and wait for TBC

[@mattmartella206]

I just checked your page a half hour ago and was surprised you hadnt uploaded a video about this yet! Happy it's here now :)

[@adammalinowski8651]

The only successful future blizzard has is in the past.

[@MoonTurky]

Sad but true. I couldn't care less about the new stuff they put out, it looks beyond terrible and unappealing. I am in the Legion classic waiting room rather

[@svsv1191]

@@MoonTurky I can't wait for tww classic

[@drawnsequence]

that's some 375 cooking right there

[@Shifty51991]

@@MoonTurky The most recent cinimatic for the new expansion or update or w/e it was looked nothing like WoW i felt more like diablo than anything and not in a good way lmfao so glad i stopped back in BOA

[@miskee11]

lil tip for you.. wintersbite is gonna be big the first couple of months. this time around we get the winter event at the start, and thus we get instant access to elixir of frost power and +7 frost dmg to weapon enchant. just roll herbalism ;)

[@plessis2023]

At some point would seems Blizz would flesh out classic into a beyond classic by putting more quests and class modifications. They have plenty of space in somes to add quests .

[@fizkarn6358]

Thats what they are doing, SoD is more or less a test of how many changes are reasonable for classic +

[@Envy188]

Just check out turtle wow, if blizz would copy just talents from them it would be amazing.

[@SolheimGaming]

Fresh Hype! Fresh Hype!

[@Destrudo5359]

sstop self promoting . we get it we all have free classic gold guides from you that we sell for far far less...get rekt hype get rekt'd hype!!!

[@GamingDualities]

@@keelhld94 medium. Thx for asking. Sagittarius season i guess

[@MaaaXIMuuuZ]

Fresh hype! Fresh hype!

[@bohne8746]

@@GamingDualitiessimp

[@HeinluckTV]

@@GamingDualities Just checked your channel. Your videos literally get no views because you put 0 effort into making them, a lot of this is just v low quaility, plug and played, barely edited. I can PROMISE you, content creators that bothered to research how the algorithm works for more 5 minutes have NOTHING to do with people like you doing shit on the website.

[@cdoremus99]

Just wanted to post an update that the following changes were announced today: - Instant mail between characters - Dual Spec will be implemented at some point - Debuff limit will be removed at some point

[@kckillakrack9714]

You left out it’s not he if u can use the ah and trade with people it’s just normal wow. Who dies leveling in wow? Lol

[@GunnbriktRailways]

Bring on fresh, already miss the 2019 launch!

[@Infernal_Elf]

It certantly was someting XD going into que in the morning and being able to play after Dinner XD

[@GunnbriktRailways]

@Infernal_Elf think I'll probably leave starting till a few days post launch to avoid that to be fair lol 😂

[@rfl1882]

If we know we are progressing to TBC, why not start with TBC talents/specs and be able to play B Elfs and Dranei? Would love to progress Vanilla content as a BELF Pally. Also TBC talents/specs are much more balanced than Vanilla’s.

[@jpchoueiry4056]

Man that would have been amazing! Super annoying to play foe a whole year

[@rfl1882]

@@jpchoueiry4056it would have made a lot of sense to start with TBC talent trees since level 1 and have Blood Elves and Dranei

[@professionalhater3929]

That’s not vanilla or tbc it’s just a weird combination of both

[@slowmomma7222]

@@professionalhater3929 kind of like a half classic + that people have been wanting though. I think it’d be a good idea to

[@doctorprepper8106]

Yes, I’d like to try belf paladin, but I’m not gonna level again 1-60 when tbc releases

[@xxFairestxx]

I’m so excited for Dragonflight classic!

[@General12th]

This but actually.

[@akpade]

hell nah

[@MoonTurky]

Legion will be the peak of the classic reruns

[@keldon1137]

@@MoonTurky ah yes, as long as u will drop leggos u need, dont plan to touch alts or multispec on proper level. Dont forget to farm titanforged arcanocrystal on 90% specs every tier. It was cool expansions with decent (although a bit edgy like wotlk) story, class questlines were awesome. But it was absolutely atrocious expansions for competitive, high end players and had one of the worst grinds. It was only decent in high end in last patch with Antorus with catchups, leggo buying/upgrading etc.

[@forsakenjones4695]

🤣

[@Dylan-ko2gj]

I'll probably check out the fresh realms and slowly level a character up. I don't see myself investing multiple hours a night to level up in time to raid again though

[@Racerguardguy]

I cannot wait for MOP!!!

[@ryanmullen483]

Same! My buddies and I already planning our 10 man team

[@Racerguardguy]

@@ryanmullen483 Need a shaman? :P

[@ryanmullen483]

@@Racerguardguy sorry we have a solid 10 and even 3 of us are shaman lmao

[@Zachk22]

Man 1 PVP & 1 PVE is 100% the way to go. I just wish we got the same thing for TBC and Wrath! I do like the idea of a 3 year cycle for Vanilla, TBC & Wrath that would be awesome

[@teroril]

If/when they start making Classic+, They really need to make a leveling path in completely new content, maybe from level 10 or 15. That would probably bring a lot of people back that wouldn't otherwise have come, because they can experience the new stuff much sooner.

[@DivineSnippets94]

I'm definitely coming back to WOW classic again. The hype is just another level.

[@MStorebra]

Imagine Warlords of Draenor classic - but they repaired it? Imagine WOD C is the wod version they imagined it to be in the first place?? NGL i would very much like to see it.

[@MoonTurky]

This should definitely happen, they did wod dirty

[@StefanKostka137]

lol, blizzard surely will

[@PedroIgori]

as if they would ever put that many resources on making new content when they can just milk people's nostalgia for free

[@mattlatham5670]

Lol

[@crazyhick50]

WoD was the first expansion I'd say should be changed from its original version. If I recall the biggest complaint was it was just to short/small. Was there cut dungeons or raids that could be finished and added in perhaps?

[@GG-jm6gi]

hey ya .. i had an idea here how BG for hardcore could be done. you could have a knockdown mechanic instead of a death you still get sent to the graveyard but you don't actually die, instead of death u get a timer or a weakness debuff for x amount of time so hardcore gets some BG!. the person who did the knockdown gets the honor.

[@mattlatham5670]

Lol

[@AM-iz5cs]

That isn't very hardcore lmfao

[@cjl5515]

I'm excited for tbc. I wonder if I should just wait for the inevitable experience buff that will come sometime after naxx.

[@BuzzzdLightyear]

Thats what Im planning on doing. Vanilla content and classes are so fucking boring and we've had it for like 5 years now.

[@szn7548]

@@BuzzzdLightyear noone cares

[@user-lo3bq5py1h]

@@szn7548exactly no one cares for vanilla 😂. We will wait for TBC.

[@anthonyvelez8002]

Gonna level and PvP hardcore until TBC. TBC I will raid again.

[@TheGolferguy71]

@@user-lo3bq5py1h TBC is trash.....apparently you've missed the massive amounts of players hyped for years over Vanilla. TBC is the beginning of the end, Retail Light.

[@grimgamer1420]

Classic + will be the game changer, loved the scenic pan of all the unfinished content when you were talking about it

[@10leej]

I for one, would love a fresh start on a Classic+ realm.

[@mrretired2715]

Which is SOD

[@joelt5994]

@@mrretired2715no sod is retail -

[@K0ukku]

Turtle wow

[@mrretired2715]

@ twow is shit after the recent patches

[@evilvash0]

MoP Classic is what i'm looking forward the most can get that long time itch scratched again before putting the game down for good. kinda wish the Class / Spec Mechanics from MoP was in the current game best time I have ever had with a Ret Paladin / Brewmaster Monk.

[@TheOnlyGBeast]

I just hope that if WoD classic does happen, that they finish and release all the cut content WoD could really have its redemption arc

[@mattlatham5670]

Lol

[@snowlily5540]

yes finally!! was waiting for a WILLE video on this! what class will you play? warlock again? I'm trying out horde PVE this time!

[@midnightblue1874]

4:46 "Hm, i kinda miss wrath again" NO, i don't

[@dlpkn]

Facts. It's just not classic to me like vanilla and TBC are.

[@andromidius]

Its too soon for me, I very nearly burned out during Wrath Classic. TBC though? The temptation is real.

[@PendragonMusicOfficial]

Wait until TBC, then people will be thursting for Wrath

[@dlpkn]

@@PendragonMusicOfficial Some people yes, but not myself.

[@mikeg5365]

@@PendragonMusicOfficialsucks to suck nostalgia

[@MrJoerg83]

- Removal of buff/debuff limit will trivialize content further and force usage of additional buffs/consumeables increasing raiding costs and buff prep. While it might increase the damage of less favored classes slightly, it will also enable proc based spell power melee specs with higher buff and consumeable usage. - Dual spec will force respecs within the raid and pressure hybrid classes into damage specs, Casters respeccing for singular bosses based on resistances and melees switching to cleave specs.Which of course will impact loot availability and complicating raiding requirements further. It will not help healers farm in the open world as those spots will be forcefully taken by classes in pure pvp specs. Of course loot competition will go up as well as there are no clear cuts in roles anymore. - Now that the devs reversed on their "keeping classic honest principles" everything is on the table which ultimately means its not classic anymore. I've seen enough of these things during WOTLK and SOM/SOD to know its a death sentence from the get go for classic2.

[@fransingolf5314]

Well said!

[@Forbidden_0ne]

TBC ERA or bust

[@ErfanSH-j9f]

will TBC stay ERA ??? or no ?? i really want play TBC slowly and enjoy and do all classes so plz ERA TBC

[@CVSoprano]

The new realm directory is showing up (update pushed to client around 730AM PST), though all servers offline (obviously, at 9AM PST). Existing HC servers Defias Pillager and Skull Rock went to the Classic Era tab as type "Hardcore Normal"; all existing Classic Era are still there. Three new servers are under the new Anniversary tab: Fengus' Ferocity (PvP), Moldar's Moxie (PvE), and Slip'kik's Savvy (PvE) If there are supposed to be Anniversary HC, I do not see them (yet).

[@mefninja]

Might play for the leveling experience as i find it enjoyable. Sticking around for the years.. definitely not again

[@Kaldrean]

Yayyyyy more vanilla servers that we didn't need. Lets release fresh servers when SoD hasnt even concluded and make its player base dwindle even more, even though they announced they will be adding new end game stuff in SoD. Feels like the people at blizzard are just competing against themselves at this point. We don't need 5 versions of WoW lol. I wish we could just keep SoD going while they iron out classic plus and give that new servers when it releases. Also how far are they going to go with these classic expansion servers? Are they just going to re-release every game?

[@SuperYtc1]

As long as idiots keep buying it they’ll keep selling the same game

[@caseybrown6813]

They are just trying to grab Subs at this point it's pretty sad considering last year we were sooooooo hyped for Classic + and why it could be

[@TheGolferguy71]

SoD sucks. Very happy they're finally releasing some fresh Vanilla servers. I can finally re-sub.

[@FreshPants1975]

Sticking with SoD. I can't go back to playing a vanilla shadow priest. 😂

[@Kaldrean]

@ that’s exactly how I feel man. I enjoy the pve, progression, leveling, world design, and class fantasy in classic so much more than retail. But fuckkk dude half the specs are not playable and the itemization for a lot of items is atrocious. And sadly both shaman and paladin are my favorite class and they are both relegated to healers in classic. Like if they just make all the specs viable and fix itemization then classic is perfection.

[@danm6370]

You know, all I wanted was TBC, but now I have to wait another year. I have many 60s on era and I don't think I'll play unless I'll, one day, be able to transfer them. Who knows, I may start my sub again when tbc finally comes out.

[@jpchoueiry4056]

Yeah, they should have launched TBC instead of dividing the playerbase and having us replay the same thing for a whole year

[@hacklbarry5365]

So where have you been 2 yrs ago? We had everything and it was a disaster. People are min maxing everything, class stacking, logs checking, gold selling and buying. Community suxx and always will.

[@doctorprepper8106]

@@hacklbarry5365it was a disaster for you, maybe find better people to play with or maybe they wouldn’t stand playing with you.

[@General12th]

Hi Will! I'm really looking forward to both MoP and Classic Classic.

[@Lichmorge]

The problem, and what I think people want, is that these "seasonal games" are supposed to be MMOS. A persistent world, where communities are born! Instead what we are getting are games that reset every so often.

[@intellectuallysuperior8350]

Theres not much to do once u do it all tho :/

[@fizkarn6358]

Well i like restarting with the boys now and then

[@kevin-jo1qu]

I don't think that's a big deal for classic. Leveling is the journey, a lot of ppl value and want the fresh experience, and not much to do once you've done all the content.

[@Jojojjojojojo]

Reset with your community then

[@MrPtrlix]

I mean it's "seasonal" but the seasons still last for multiple years. That's more than enough time for bonding with people in an mmorpg.

[@TwilightMysts]

I mostly enjoyed the initial launch of Classic, save for the fact that most people just paid a mage for a leech, leaving grouping pretty dead. I was looking forward to classic TBC, but only got to play for a week or two before real life got in the way and I have never gotten back into the game. Part of that was that whole "life got in the way" thing, which changed my living situation and income such that it really wasn't viable to play, but also the whole grouping was dead thing. In the first few weeks there was a chance of getting into groups, but by 3 months after launch I knew that grouping would be pretty much impossible. And from what I understand, if you really wanted to build your reputation in TBC, you had to start out in the dungeons rather than questing, but with no groups, dungeons were off the table. I would love to play more TBC if the grouping and community was better (I play MMOs to play with people, not to solo grind content). Might consider Wrath, but I feel like Wrath was when the game started its slide downhill. While I've seen some cool talents and abilities in later versions of the game, Blizzard made far too many big mistakes for it to be worth playing beyond Wrath.

[@menndoess9627]

I would love it if it would just be a pre patch fresh that goes on for a year before TBC opens up that way we can level blood elf and draeni plus pre patch is super fun with the updates and gear updates

[@julien1]

I said this for ages - Blizz should just release the whole of vanilla (maybe nax about 6 months later). Then after 12 months or so TBC again in its entirety. People doing BWL in greens with 20 man will show Blizzard just HOW much they need to make Classic+.

[@cosinesquared4125]

Absolutely! I'm really disappointed that I have to play alts for a year until I can start my main (Alliance shaman). That's one thing when classic first started as we didn't know what was going to happen, but now that we know we are going to BC from the start, it feels like this should be on the table.

[@rfl1882]

Lets make this happen! This would also make the meme specs viable as TBC talents/specs are much more balanced than Vanilla’s!

[@menndoess9627]

@@rfl1882 exactly!

[@sonicewrxsti]

Keen as for fresh 🎉 let’s go. Friday in Australia going to be a good day / night.

[@vXCozmoz]

So we just got a new blue post. Adding in 3 more things for classic fresh, but still no *Guild Bank* wth? So we get wrath QoL but not bg from Tbc, ehh? The 3 changes are: * Instant mail between your characters on the same account * Removal of buff/debuff limit * Dual spec

[@akhsdenlew1861]

Guild bank is okay, but not bringing it is not a deal breaker or something to keep talking about it. Dual spec on the other hand is a hard deal breaker...could literally double the amount of players giving a shot to a 2nd classic release.

[@Ludydobry]

It will be hard to play fresh without those SoD skills but I never played Druid Tank, gonna try that and leave it until TBC if it sucks.

[@GloriousMidas]

Honestly without those sod skills you're gonna get bored of the classes fast... I've played both and sod makes the classes feel polished but some of them do feel overdone with the runes but it's still great. Vanilla is gonna be 1 button rotation for the most part and majority of the raids will have warriors and rogues.

[@sensainarutoable]

Respectfully, (and i know i may be in the minority here, but) classic classic is such a stupid idea and classic+ at the 20 year anniversary would have made more sense. Ive already seen countless discussions on discord of people saying theyll lock their name and wait for TBC. Me included.

[@sensainarutoable]

@keelhld94 i would wager far more people want classic+ yet here we are 🤷‍♂️

[@Wheresyoutube]

Blizz logic is always what’s the least amount of effort we can make for maximum profit. At least in the last 10 years

[@professionalhater3929]

Sod is literally classic plus

[@sensainarutoable]

@professionalhater3929 no. It's a testing ground.

[@akpade]

@@sensainarutoablethat is simply not true

[@RCmetal11]

The only thing thats unclear is, will the debutf limit still be around in the new realms? They mention that HC realms won't have a debutf limit but don't mention if the regular servers do or not.

[@Spottswoode]

MOP pvp will be lit

[@Kaldrean]

Except for the fact how every arena match in MOP felt like it always went deeper into dampening than other expansions. I really hope blizzard doesnt go into "classic" for every single expansion.

[@akpade]

@@Kaldreanthey most probably will

[@abbygaleforcewind]

Fresh Hardcore realms was such a kick in the face. Absolutely unneeded and just kills the population

[@mariogallego5513]

I can see that happening yeah

[@Djamieson713]

We’re all going to be sixty years old playing classic WoW. I don’t know if I’m going to go again. Wtf is the point

[@letmeeatcake7836]

The point is to have fun, if you don't think it will be fun, don't play

[@owmyballs2087]

1-60 plus some mc is a lot of fun especially on a fresh server. Idk for me personally the raid progression was great but it was a one and done type deal. The people who progd raid for the trilogy I have mad respect for but god damn no idea how you could have the energy to come back and do it again in a five year period let alone much longer. Respect though!

[@scrublord7922]

If you get the itch to play enjoy it until your sated then quit. I quit playing at tbc classic. Sod phase 3. Haven't touched retail since legion. Done with hardcore aftery 4th 60. Tempted for classic again since 2019 was my favorite experience of wow. Having all these options is nice.

[@gliboperuta9213]

i hope they will have wow tokens in AH or i am not paying any more to be milked for same content over and over.

[@bsktballman08]

Fun. Getting off work, getting home, and having something fun to do with your time. Sure, better and healthier options are available, but they're generally not as fun.

[@WadeAllen001]

11:45 Honestly Warlords of Draenor Classic would be pretty good as long as they made it much shorter than the original. WoD's main problem wasn't bad content, it was a lack of content. So if you do WoD in half the time I don't see a problem with it.

[@arissp4950]

There isn’t any reason to have vanilla again. The honeymoon phase will be like 2 weeks . Sod is the actual classic+ blizzard should make it better

[@MrLemmiwinks91]

100% this. The amount of comments on this video & others reporting on fresh all typing things like “dual spec” or “make paladins other specs viable” etc is wild. You guys commenting things like that either want classic+ or SoD. Wow classic is literally bring 10x wars, 10x rogues, 10x mages, 4x healers & some hunters or warlocks. Asking for new stuff isnt part of what fresh is/should be.

[@arissp4950]

It’s gonna be the usual shit show and full of elitist attitude but with all the limitations of vanilla. Sod all the way

[@joelt5994]

WRONG!! Sod is retail minus where every character can do anything has zero class identity

[@simonramos5553]

SoD sucks cus runes are redic, classic+ still king

[@фанатКуплинова-ь1е]

@@MrLemmiwinks91 SoD classes are overdesigned. They should've done a few fixes here and there, a few new abilities instead of remaking every class with retail level procs. The first phase level of changes is where it shoud've ended for most classes

[@peanutwars]

I can’t wait to see you guys there I am so excited ! ❤

[@penguinposter9177]

PLS EVERYONE PLAY FRESH

[@audiofun1]

I will. Too late to go back to SoD now

[@cristhianmlr]

no

[@JFK47x]

I'll see you soon, frend

[@Orwell77]

Play Turtle WoW it’s free it’s better and it’s not associated with that greedy company

[@justcus]

90% of players will quit by level 45 😂

[@cocacola16728]

I wish they just had one server of each type always up for each expansion in classic and then when you hit level cap in one you could transfer for free to another server for the next expansion or stay in the current one you are in and progress end game. This way you could level all the way through the expansions in order the way they were whenever you want or choose to play whatever individual expansion you feel like.

[@Kyytz-1]

Locking my name for TBC then its back to enjoying SoD. Cba doing classic again

[@TheWowzz]

What class do you play on Sod ?

[@Kyytz-1]

@@TheWowzz Holy Pala!

[@mcfarvo]

3:30 but HC is "everfresh" as upon death (unless you have alts lined up on that server), you can go again on that or another server

[@MPBrickz]

Long live Vanilla!

[@timothypeterson4781]

I always enjoyed warlords in a mechanics way. It holds two of my favorite memories. One is just healing through dungeons with my dual wielding friend, and playing the dungeons.

[@Junmitis]

I went PvP realm during classic, imagining epic battles in the middle of different zones, finding rivals and the everpresent edge of being on dangerous zones and emerging victorious. Sadly, the reality was: 90% getting instakilled by someone a lot higher level than me or getting ganged up by 2+ people, and only the remaining 10% of fights were legit 1v1s. Arriving at a high level quest zone and seeing 8 hordes around the questgiver already told me I'd never get a quest done. Never again, PvE it is.

[@simonramos5553]

Cus back in the day everyone played alliance bc lotr So they made horde OP and will never change it, so everyone plays horde on pvp at least so pvp servers for ally are jokes

[@gbln_38]

Kinda wish there was a hardcore server that went to TBC

[@parkerlamarbrook]

Warcraft direct confirmed for me that after SoD ends, I’m done with WoW for the foreseeable future. I hadn’t played since 2019 when SoD looked interesting enough to give a try and I’ve been loving it since. But nothing they’ve announced seems even remotely enticing to me.

[@фанатКуплинова-ь1е]

They will prob do a real Classic+ sometimes after SoD ends. They're already taking features from it into this fresh start.

[@EEGMFC]

7:17 what do you specifically mean about balance between the factions?

[@Kristers_K]

Quite frankly i don't see the point of just re-releasing the same game over and over. Loses a lot of its value and charm. Makes all the effort and time investment prior, which is a big part of Classic's charm, completely irrelevant. For similar reasons ill never understand how people can level the same class countless times, with a very small number of exceptions. I would personally be questioning my own mental health and why i even leveled the first character just to abandon it for another. I value character investment, it's sentimental value, attachment, progression...not a repetitive, mindless grind for some nostalgia-driven dopamine hits. Immersion alone doesn't suffice.

[@bobthor9647]

What would you like to see happen instead ?

[@SamHurlting5182]

Speak only for yourself...the world doesn't revolve around you. Talking about mental health problems...jesus...you need help. It's just a game, you've got no rifht to say how people enjoy their free time. Embarrassing

[@horrorcastle1]

​@@SamHurlting5182calm down freak

[@viralityac]

Was super excited for this but ngl I have been having an absolute blast playing cata classic the last couple of weeks... But at the same time I've never experienced TBC raiding content, mostly PVP back in the day and missed out in 2021/22 due to life stuff so I definitely have some decisions to make.

[@shadowhisper070]

I'm really hoping for #somechanges this time around. It's a great start with the removal of GDKPs, but there's some TBC-era conveniences that I see no reason shouldn't be implemented. Summoning stones, instant mail between alts, guild banks, and of course DUAL SPEC!

[@Epidombe]

Dual spec is a huge hell yeah.

[@rfl1882]

@@shadowhisper070 how about let us start with TBC talents from the start (lvl 10), this way specs are more balanced than the Vanilla alternative. Also give us TBC races from start too. I would love to progress Vanilla content with a Blood Elf Pally!

[@Speku165]

Another good thing could be "Instant CD Resets after dueling in certain areas" - there is a huge dueling community and this could benefit of it

[@0mn0mable]

100% agree.

[@punishedsneed]

I prefer TBC to Vanilla. I think TBC, from a gameplay perspective, is everything Vanilla wishes it was. Vanilla had a beautiful open world 1-60, no complaints there (except having to travel so god damn far for everything instead of having a natural progression through zones that flows better), the raids are fun, it's so raw and nostalgic. The good and the bad are blatant and amplified, and that's what I love about it. But TBC is just better in every way. Classes are better, PvE is better, Arenas are amazing. For me, it'll be fun to do the Vanilla thing again and camp people in STV a bit. But, at the end of the day, the moment I saw Classic get announced, I knew TBC would happen no matter what. And Vanilla was always going to be a waiting room for TBC and Wrath for me.

[@Ash-Ketchum-and-Pikachu]

They should have refresh servers forever. Every few years these servers should reset in full. 1 year in vanilla, 1 year in tbc and 1 year in wrath. Then back to vanilla. If you want to keep your character and stuff then you should be able to copy it over to a permanent server.

[@fizkarn6358]

Agree 100%

[@szn7548]

No

[@xen2241]

for all the crap we (and specifically me) can talk about Draenor or Draenor classic I will drop EVERYTHING im doing for the entirety of Legion classic -- no other game could release before or during it that could change that if legion comes back, my social life is over lmao

[@demonwares]

Playing classic when sod fixed a lot of classic's issues is hating yourself. Going back to one button spam and most of the classes not being viable is not something I ever want again.

[@ervinas2220]

The idea of SoD is great, but the thing is, the majority of people who still play it are greasy sweatlords (at least in the EU). I haven't seen that many crybabies in one place.

[@rfl1882]

The fix would have been for these fresh servers to start with TBC talents/specs from the beginning. TBC Specs were much more balanced than Vanilla’s.

[@blastfiend7478]

Classic clearly sells, the biggest the games concurrent player base has been in well over a decade

[@alihorda]

If you play classic you want the... Classic experience. Retail is for new stuff. I tried sod and while fun it didn't feel as classic. Basically you got abilities from later expansions.. At that point why not play retail?

[@bobthor9647]

What's sod?

[@raediantz3192]

I'd be more inclined to do Classic again if they removed world buffs from raids. They're just too toxic, and a pain in the ass to acquire. The chronoboon is just a bandaide, though I'm glad it exists.

[@Epidombe]

I know they want no changes but i really wish they would implement debuff limits removed, something like summoning stones in raids, honor system rework, world buffs automatically going into your boon. Theres such little QoL that could be done to the game to improve it so much. But i understand the desire for no changes and respect it.

[@jordon_9333]

I wanted TBC but above all I wanted a fresh progressive, and that's what we got, that'll do nicely

[@andreaskvaloy]

WOD-Classic doesn't sound so bad, *IF* we get the latest patch and some fixes. Original WOD dragged on for too long, so if the whole thing takes a year or so, I think it could be good.

[@saalok]

Exactly. WoD's biggest issues were the lack of content combined with a content drought for months on end. If the time of the xpac is cut in half (or maybe more tbh...) it would be fine. Tho it would be better for them to just skip it altogether.

[@ryanmullen483]

MoP and WoD had goated pve content no doubt

[@MoonTurky]

If they give WoD the scrapped shattrath raid or what ever was planned it will definitely be one of my all time fave expansions. Atleast the theme and story felt like world of warcraft

[@KingBatts91-lx6fx]

Been playing cataclysm and omg the nostalgia is real! So happy I'm in!

[@BuzzzdLightyear]

So sick of vanilla.. just bring back TBC and Wrath servers already.

[@Arenumberg]

I think a perfect time to merge the main classic into retail will arrive when it hits an expansion you can play as is. Currently DF hasnt been scaled like SL, so if no new expansions released.. well. That would be when, so something similar would make sense. Given we're gonna get around 2 old expansions for each new one.. you might get classic world soul saga first XD.

[@stew123dai5]

TBC Classic HYPE!

[@Kandimitsu]

With layering been a lot better now would have been good to have 1 pve and 1 PvP server for each version of classic games. For me there is too many versions of wow now and it's gonna be diluting the developers for each game. I would have liked for them to have just done classic plus by now

[@Dyspnea44]

In my heart I'm a gnome warlock, but there's a whisper calling me to be a mage or priest... FOR THE HORDE!

[@MStorebra]

i am sorry to tell you my little green enemy - in your heart you are a GOBLIN! The bis race will always be *in their heart* for the Alliance!

[@kimwahlberg7411]

Answer the calling brother. Lok’tar

[@jamesraven6761]

Lok’Tar Ogar, embrace honour, reject gnomes

[@philipjacobsson6912]

We're the same brother. Gnome warlock in spirit - but spirit start to split

[@Spinexus]

In my opinion Classic+ would need new content that fits vanilla in every single zone and from 1-60. New dungeons, side quests, caves. Very small additions. Stuff like adding a quest to the Naga in Tanaris for example. I would also like to see tiny class changes. Just to fix up obvious stuff. No debuff limit and maybe small mana buffs to hybrids or reducing the druid shapeshift cost.

[@toemasmeems]

Aren’t you guys tired of Vanilla? I mean it’s the same thing over and over

[@bobthor9647]

No I haven't played it yet.

[@melipnos]

Ppl keep playing skyrim too, some people just enjoy doing that type of game I guess

[@toemasmeems]

@@melipnos I literally have been playing that game on the Switch and it’s awesome but Skyrim is just a completely different game Vanilla seems to be dominated by the top people who know every little thing in that game so I just play it myself for too long

[@ayauetoazumi6824]

It's super boring considering elite snobs rule over it and just makes gold farmers more rich haha it's not classic unless you played it in 2004 if not you missed out and redoing this version is nothing like the actual release

[@ArthurTheLegend420]

Good to see they are going to put it on rotation, Vanilla should never get stuck on p6, should always be in rotation imo.

[@kevinthepaladin235]

I wish we would get New Models

[@cmoney163]

That will be Classic plus in 5-10 years

[@GloriousMidas]

Have a classic or new texture feature to choose from in settings.

[@bobthor9647]

No thanks

[@samh8641]

I got into wow at the very end of original classic. Fell out in TBC because I didn’t know any of what i was doing it what to do. I’m excited to finally finish wow. Retail was just too confusing. Not from gameplay, but from all of the story

[@izicadet9819]

Blizzard will understand it one day, the best game ever would be Vanilla with retail graphics and the best tools from retail.

[@noname-gp6hk]

I wouldn't play vanilla with retail graphics. The classic graphics make the game for me.

[@izicadet9819]

@@noname-gp6hk i promise you, Classic with it’s original gameplay from 2004 with Today’s graphics is the game you need

[@martinmcflyguy]

im excited for mists, i liked it back in the day but was so busy i couldnt play much then. Ima go hard on pet battles!

[@cristhianmlr]

There will never be Classic+

[@Shiirow]

cant tell some people that, SaD gave them too much hopium and copium to huff.

[@cristhianmlr]

@@Shiirow SaD lmao

[@Swatta637]

I'm just really curious on what the fresh servers will do the existing - and popping - HC servers. I am definitely stoked to move into TBC HC in the future, but current HC servers are great! Are more people going to restart or stay where they're at until TBC comes out?

[@Manifibell]

I am 100% sure WotLK will come after tbc. By that time i am ready again. I will be playing classic and waiting for tbc.

[@hacklbarry5365]

Sure buddy this time you will 100% 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Manifibell]

@@hacklbarry5365 Thanks! :D

[@Nexiusify]

Omg I didn't know about classic fresh. -Rolls onto wow-

[@mictrey2267]

So fresh classic but we already have classic servers. Sounds like blizzard milking until there isnt any milk left.

[@manuelnunes7140]

They should make a classic only subscription for 5-6 bucks a month. 155 bucks per player until tbc release next year is just crazy. The amount of work on retail cannot be compared to the work on vanilla…

[@VileVamp]

If they don't leave a server up for MoP when it's over, I think that's a wrap for Classic.

[@joaquinrosas8578]

Is this a perfect time for a new player to get in to it ? I’m currently playing retail just started last week lvl 33 atm.

[@evilsizer4428]

I still don't understand why they aren't adding an RPPVP server.