Urgost - flatter the dragon

[@MegaFafnir]

"You are a poor liar, Elf, but at least your lies are pleasant." I like how he crosses his forelegs at that part :)

[@click8708]

I read this and then clicked at a random part of the video and this exact line played 😅

[@ArtemioM05]

I always loved the idea that Sauron, even at a mere 1/100th of his strength, is still intimidating enough that even the baddest of the bad mofos have no desire to challenge him and that all of the Dark Lord's enemies are that not out of their own choosing but because he was planning to genocidally wipe them from the face of Middle Earth from the very beginning .

[@MrCheesyBaconBits]

Its impressive indeed that even dragons don't mess with a weakened Sauron.

[@nargan1129]

Я тут был

[@calebfleming123]

ArtemioM05 well, Sauron wanted to rule all of middle earth. Morgoth wanted nothing left from middle-earth.

[@gamester512]

@@MrCheesyBaconBits To be fair, Sauron is pretty much a Demi-God of sorts, and as long as the One Ring exists, then he cannot truly "die". Even with the One Ring destroyed, Sauron still may not be "dead", just stuck in such a severely weakened state that he can no longer take physical form or otherwise directly interfere with affairs on Middle-Earth. As powerful as they are, even a dragon like Urgost wouldn't really be a match for something comparable to a Demi-God.

[@VikingFyre]

seriously this dialogue with Urgost is almost identical with The Hobbit's when Bilbo and Smaug converse

[@Genesis23OPB]

+VikingFyre thats because all Dragons are proud

[@ryanedwards7645]

The game came out first

[@mrslinkydragon9910]

Like father like son...

[@pikppa]

Except Urgost is a lot more reasonable and less of a dick than Smaug

[@MrDwarfBangityBang]

and the book on which the movie was based upon, was released almost a century before lol

[@mangamope9139]

Petition to make Urgost an official entity of the lore, anyone?

[@finnover9781]

Petition seconded.

[@matthewbreytenbach4483]

Hell yeah!

[@CollinMcLean]

Underrated game in my opinion...

[@Sean_Last1995]

the Dragon's mouth movements remind me the moment of Randall from monsters Inc.

[@DragonRage61]

This is my favourite scene in the game!

[@thehunter7422]

I didn't even know there was a way to get a gift from Urgost . Lol . This should've been a trophy . I've played this like 4 times and never knew this .

[@gamester512]

Dragons are vain, so if you stroke their egos, they are likely to appreciate it enough to potentially reward you for it with more than just letting you live. It could spare you from having to fight what would otherwise be a very dangerous and deadly enemy. This is literally the case in the Drizzt novels when Drizzt is forced to deal with the Red Dragon Hephaestus. Drizzt manages to get himself and the defenseless Weeping Friars to safety by both stroking Hephaestus' ego and by successfully bluffing him (Hephaestus is stated to not be as smart as other Red Dragons, even to the point that he could be considered absent-minded, which helped Drizzt here....had it been another Red Dragon instead, Drizzt likely wouldn't have been so lucky.)

[@click8708]

@@gamester512 Very interesting!

[@gamester512]

@@click8708 Yeah, dragons can be very interesting when written and portrayed properly. And when done well, they can carry an entire plot all by themselves. Just look at Grigori in Dragon's Dogma, he's easily one of the absolute best dragons in video game history (and David Lodge's voice fits him perfectly), even though he only appears in person a total of three times, those times when he actually *does* appear have all the more impact for it. He has some amazing lines as well. Such as: *"The rantings of an up-jumped zealot make for tedious listening."* or *"If you would face me, seek me out, and I shall allow it. But heed the zealot's lesson well, Arisen. When the weak court death, they find it."*

[@mspionage1743]

Urgost was actually a bro. Rather mellow for a dragon.

[@chibidakis1]

I feel the Hobbit Trilogy copied alot from Urgost's facial animations and physical traits on to Smaug. They look uncannily similar..

[@seabasswallyworld]

In Tolkien's Middle Earth, almost any creature can talk, even dragons.

[@pikppa]

Everything in Tolkien's world can talk, the creation itself was made by talking/singing and Tolkien put a lot of emphasis on the importance of words and languages as source of powers

[@stephenking5852]

@@pikppa that’s according to the Silmarillion.

[@click8708]

@@pikppa The man was a servant and savant of language.

[@mob2uz]

Kinda funny how this actually predates the monstrous masterpeice we were lucky to experince in the second Hobbit film. I honestly wonder which took cues from which...

[@agreatlotrfan6178]

+mob2uz This game took cues from the books just like the films did. Everything in Lord of the Rings both the video games and films are all based on Tolkien's books.

[@mob2uz]

Yoloswaggins Lordofthebling Yes, but the original artwork for Smaug looks only vaguely like this. Whoever designed Urgost probably wanted it to look like what they thought Peter Jackson would make Smaug look like; they weren't that far off...

[@agreatlotrfan6178]

Yeah most likely.

[@mrslinkydragon9910]

mob2uz except peter jackson and benedict cumberbatch ruined smaug

[@pikppa]

No they definitly did not

[@FantasyArtOnline]

It's been a long time since I played it. I think I got some random treasure, which might include a Fell-Hunter set piece. Nothing I ended up keeping.

[@bartigebarner9933]

well to have this kind of conversation you need to talk with bilbo before facing the dragon.. he gives you tipps how to talk with dragons without enraging them and thats why the conversations sound so similar.. bit bilbo is bugged inmy gameplay and i wonder what the reward is ypu get from urgost

[@Genesis23OPB]

+David Glenn yes. as soon you get the info about facing a Dragon (after saving the mage guy) you can talk to bilbo and get this Option.

[@vikingwolf4328]

dragons are not extinct in lotr lore but they are very rare

[@caim4611]

Viking Wolf fantasy wolrd without dragons is a Boring And incomplete one

[@DragonRage61]

In the books, Smaug was the last fire-drake. But the cold-drakes still exist in Middle-earth. The Cold-drakes are wingless dragons that breath ice instead of fire. They live in the Grey Mountains.

[@mrslinkydragon9910]

The last fire drake of significance. His father (seen in game) wasnt particularly significance...

[@pikppa]

Smaug was not the last fire drake, he was the last GREAT fire drake. Smaller fire breathing dragons still existed

[@Pumpkin525]

A talking eagle. Now I've seen everything.

[@Godzillakingofkaiju1]

The Eagles could talk in the books.

[@droklir1135]

it's a reference to a line said in the game ! @@Godzillakingofkaiju1

[@seabasswallyworld]

Yeah. I'm glad they took the time to do that.

[@robtul1294]

So, is that elf a witch as well? I've never seen an elf use a staff like that, not even Elrond, Cereborn, or Galadriel.

[@leonardok9699]

That double lower jaw is monstrous af man

[@FlashakaViolet]

cool dragon!

[@mob2uz]

IS there anything that CAN'T talk in Tolken's work's?

[@marcinzysko1653]

+mob2uz basically, all tolkien universe is made by talking or singing. It has a clear focus on words as the very fabric of the world. In this way, all creation of this universe inherits a part of that power

[@nyEJpr718]

what did u get from the dragon?

[@703051]

Fuck that’s a badass voice actor

[@shadowassassin786]

it work for any character

[@robtul1294]

What was the gift?

[@Aldiraider]

I played it recently and tried to fuck up the dialoge and fight him. I was dissapointed that Urgost cannot be fought in the game.

[@kaicerzero]

looks like smaug

[@RobertMBabic]

1:00

[@duerksjv]

What the hell is this? I'm glad I didn;t play this game long enough to get here or I'd have a brokencontroller or television or something. Dragons are extinct, Smaug was the last one. And this conversation is almost word for word the EXACT conversation Bilbo had with Smaug in the Hobbit. Unoriginal, lazy bullshit piece of a game.

[@LordMortanius]

They weren't. The Cold Drakes survived; while Smaug was the last of the great Uruloki, lesser fire drakes still existed.

[@dovahkiin7118]

You know the game came out first, Riiiiiight?

[@thehunter7422]

@@dovahkiin7118 I think he's talking about the book as well. Which was published in the 1930's.

[@thehunter7422]

You should probably do some research before you comment stuff like this . One there were Cold Drakes in the world still. 2 Smaug was the last known famous Fire Drake known to people . Not to middle earth . They all went in hiding in the Grey Mountains and the Withered Heath in the North and North West . Some parts of Forodwaith as well I beilieve . There are still lesser Fire Drakes out there and who knows , dragons like Urgost still could've been in hiding somewhere abandoned or somewhere deep in the world . Same goes for the Balrog Durins Bane . He wasn't stated as the last of the Balrogs . He was just one of the ones that was found . You need to read more than just the hobbit to find more info about stuff . Tolkiens writings aren't any normal fantasy you see on tv or other small books . Some of them are big like Harry Potter or Narnia . But they also aren't in as much detailed in history as JRR Tolkien had . Takes a lot to see the full history of what he and his son Christopher Tolkien did .

[@MahkRonAKash]

9 years or 100, such insanity is nice to grin at. War in the North is legendary.