US Companies Increasingly Eliminate College Degree Requirement

[@maxwillson]

The college bubble is popping! I recently heard that Elon Musk is independently testing new hires because he's declared college a failure LOL

[@DeionSardines]

Southpark: Joining the Panderverse has this video written all over it.

[@PenNamed]

We need to take it a step further and actually training employees too like in the old days

[@veronicamaine3813]

Imagine thinking anything Elon does is work emulating- please go to college, you clearly need those lessons in critical thinking.

[@JohnnyAmerique]

@@veronicamaine3813They don’t teach critical thinking in college anymore; rather, they indoctrinate the students with postmodernist, neo-Marxist “critical theory” (i.e., everything is racist and everything is a social construct for power). Critical thinking, scientific inquiry, objectivity: those are all just tools of the evil white supremacist patriarchy - or so the fart-sniffing, navel-gazing, anti-white and anti-male university quackademics say.

[@starguy2718]

​@@veronicamaine3813How to tell us you work in HR, without saying you work in HR.

[@edenbreckhouse]

A college degree was, in the past, simply a way of identifying those with a high IQ without doing an IQ test. These days a degree isn't such an indicator.

[@potato2941]

yea because they banned IQ test for job applicants except for the military. IQ is the best indicator if you will be successful at a job.

[@juniorjames7076]

Nope. It was a mechanism for the upper and upper middle class to network among themselves (hence Fraternities and Sororities) Grades were never important, cuz someone (alumni, school connections) would hire you. Which is also why Blacks and Jewish people were largely excluded until the late 50s.

[@zg-it]

Not at all, college is not a measure of intelligence. It's a measure of obedience, why are people obsessed with IQ. The dumbest people alive are in college, and the smartest people I know didn't go to college. They started businesses and are super successful because they didn't wait for some Professor to tell them that they're smart

[@xenobob2773]

@@juniorjames7076 Both are true, depends on the date... read 'The Bell Curve'.

[@titolovely8237]

increasingly, not having a college degree is a sign of intelligence. if you could see the scam when you were 18, you're definitely smart enough to be in management. hell id argue most management positions now require less skill and knowledge than the people doing the work. at my job we joke around that the only way to get promoted is to be useless in your current role but not fire-able. the worst thing you can do is become highly skilled and extremely valuable in your current position because you will 100% get stuck there as you're too valuable to move or promote.

[@stevescruby1343]

This is pretty much how I see things at this point, too. Today, most college curricula are designed by, and intended for, compliant conformists. In prior decades, college was seen as an environment and an experience in which a person’s views would be questioned and challenged, where your assumptions and cognitive patterning would be tested and changed by way of academic rigor. College isn’t like that anymore. It’s closer to an overpriced daycare for 18-22 year-olds. Especially within the liberal arts. It’s not worth the money. It’s definitely not worth the time if you’re not in STEM. A motivated person can acquire a fine worldly education, culture and literacy simply by self-study and use of free online materials - at their own pace and nearly free of charge.

[@lordhelwintr283]

And they wonder why more employees are mercenaries. Go to a different company make more money because your current company won’t give you a raise

[@_Arugula_Salad_]

Never went to college. Some people have remarked how smart I am for that decision. Spent my 20s working seasonal jobs and traveling the US/world ✊🏻

[@adamd9166]

If it werent for the rampant nepotism in leadership positions in general, shit might actually get done lol

[@adamwalker2377]

Boomers losing power is like a demon being exorcised. It screams and thrashes the unfortunate host.

[@manager4409]

They really want to completely fuck over the young before they die.

[@ditpook]

No, you all just took degrees in psychology and no one needs you. In my field, at the age of 62, I was flown first class to several interviews in Minnesota and Virginia because they couldn't find anyone...ANYONE qualified enough to do the job. No one your age has the education because my degree was too hard for you to choose. Want fries with that?

[@deeplorable2913]

the boomers in my life have been a long term burden and never provided any good advice. mostly just bullys and manipulators. only about 10 more years till their reign of terror is over.

[@ditpook]

In the 1970s when I hit the job market, the greatest generation should have been retiring but they spent everything they had and even ran the government into debt for the boomers to pay off to satisfy their lavish lifestyle. I don't doubt you ran into bad boomers, God knows even that generation needed ditch diggers and cashiers but if that is all you want to be, then you can wait 10 years. If you had a stem degree you'd be working at 6 figures right now, but everyone complains all the easy jobs have been taken by old people.@@deeplorable2913

[@ditpook]

I don't smoke. That is an expensive and wasteful habit. I look in the mirror every morning and I ask myself, "When are all those lazy children going to put down the laptops, move out of their parents houses, get starter jobs at low pay, save their money for cars, houses and retirement like every generation since Washington?" Why don't you look in a mirror and ask yourself, "If kids today have it so badly, then why do people with nothing still LEAVE THEIR PARENTS HOUSE, come here from half way around the world in foreign countries, WORK, SUCCEED and make millions?" You will always be a whiny loser until you work. Flash! No one cares. No one is coming to save you. Blaming people blindly just makes people ignore you more. You are responsible for your own actions and your own happiness. Get to work. @Hydromon99

[@thejasonbourne]

Removing the college degree requirement is great but CEOs do not hire new recruits, generally. They leave that task to human resources. HR is dominated by women and they complicate the💩out of everything.

[@starguy2718]

In Robert Townsend's book, "Up The Organization!", he advised firing the HR Department, the *whole* department. This was back in the 1960's, too.

[@adamd9166]

Seconded.

[@jimjohnson394]

I’m a civil engineer, spent about 5 years in college to get my degree. For me, I thought college was worth it, and in my profession you do need people who know what they are doing so the bridge doesn’t fall down. That being said, they certainly could streamline the process of getting an engineering license. Besides math, practically all of my first two years was nothing but the mandatory mess of humanities, history, literature, etc that had very little to do with what I need for my job. At the end of college, I took a test to make sure I knew the material. Honestly, if I am able to pass the test, why would I need college in the first place? Professional licensing should be available for everyone who can pass the test, spending 4-5 years on campus is immaterial.

[@BiffJohnsonIII]

well said

[@curlyhairdudeify]

If you remove the useless time (Summer/Winter breaks) that you spent taking the 3 years of the engineering degree. I'm pretty sure that the degree can be done in 2 years, or less.

[@ShawnFX]

Because college is a business so they have to stretch it out 4 years to make the most amount of money, it's pure BS

[@Vriappiopoi]

@@ShawnFX They need to create jobs for all those people who majored in Women's Studies.

[@bamafencer12]

Well college is also good for networking too. Most kids aren't using their time wisely and partying all the time. If you make friends with kid on the Dean's list and has internships under their belt, you're on the right track.

[@mbc00295]

College is overpriced training, even for practical degrees (Accounting, STEM, IT, etc.) Employer: We'll pass the cost of training onto the colleges/students. Colleges: 💸💰🤑

[@Neozio]

I work at an University and I have to say college is the new high school. In this city they did a study & a lot of young African American men are borderline illiterate, no math skills & the health is horrible. Now that we encourage having bad diets which more people have chronic illiness now that ever before. GenX is the 1st generation to start the trend to not live longer than their parents. There is a great book by Charlette Iserbyt the former head of the USA department of education from 1985 until the 1990s. Delibate dumbing down of America. She was told they are changing the curricula. I remember in 5th grade we where the 1st round of the D.A.R.E Drug program & it was a failure!! They showed us how the drugs look, they had scenes in their videos & it was a video guide to using drugs!! I wouldn't even have been curious to try beer, weed & for me LSD was the one that showed me to appreciate the little things. People forget the Education system was a product of the corporations in the Industrial revolution. It was funded by the biggest corporations in the early 1900's/ John Rockerfeller & his oil empire Standard Oil, The railroad tycoon the Vanderbilt, Andrew Carnage & his Carnage Foundation. Plus the architecture of school are very similar to prisons & that was done for a reason!!!! This is the best logic I have heard on KZbin in a while. Thank you for your raw delivery. I am so sick of people tip toeing with there speech.

[@TILLEYJS]

My brother just graduated with a Masters in artificial intelligence. Everyone knows how long that's been a thing. Here's hr requirements(no bullshit): 1. Bachelor's 6 years experience 2. Master's 3 years experience 3. PhD 1 year experience Ridiculous. My brother thinks i hate women until he graduated and started dealing with HR. Now i hear....i have a fucking physics degree but i have to take this rudimentary math test from this white lady who can barely speak correctly... Makes me laugh every time.

[@starguy2718]

Karen in HR: obese, post-wall, crazy cat lady, woke, militant... bonus points for tats, body-piercings, unnatural hair colors.

[@batboy555]

That's funny. HR are typically not that smart.

[@adamd9166]

And the problem is, those idiots are often the gatekeeper. They hold an unfair and disproportionate amount of power for what little value they bring. Any time you can skip HR, do it.

[@TILLEYJS]

​@@adamd9166I taught him how to circumvent HR. Contact the manager directly.

[@jimpollard9392]

If this really happens, it will go a long way towards starving the beast. A smaller academia would be a net positive thing.

[@teerexness]

Companies used to do the training of their employees. They still have to do this, but they require a college degree to make their collectivist pals in academia mountains of money. Also the obedience of people that have mountains of debt is probably much higher.

[@curlyhairdudeify]

Yup, just like the Covid-19 was marketed to "smart and educated people", and if you refused it you were an illiterate that didn't believe and trust in science.

[@kyleshockley1573]

That probably is the primary if only reason. Anything that makes a person indebted is the financial necktie corporations looks for in an applicant. It's the proto social credit score.

[@wayy2much311]

Reminds me of that black mirror episode where people only acknowledged each other with a high enough social score. A college degree says “look at me, I’m enslaved to student loans too. Lets get coffee together”😂

[@nocturnaldrive9214]

Lots of corporate office people can barely hold a conversation with anyone.

[@bennydave4160]

Why would you try to converse with them?

[@solo1014]

Its almost like theyre realizing the graduates aint worth the money. Shocking!

[@cameroncunningham204]

I work for the federal government and their has been a quiet but noticeable shift away from education requirements for certain positions particular those in IT because the now permanent labor shortage is severely impacting daily operations in just about every department/agencies

[@MasterTSayge]

35:00 He's right. I don't have a single tech degree; however , I'm a software developer making 90k a year due to online training. No college debt. 🎉

[@danielpratt3393]

This all starts as companies age. A founder will promote people who can do the job. Eventually, he or she turns it over to the new CEO with the MBA, who hires other MBAs, and finally replaces the guys who worked their ways up through the ranks. This was happening more and more in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. By the time you get to the 90s and beyond, so much of corporate America is degree required and our political leaders keep pushing college. And all of these people look down on people without degrees.

[@adamd9166]

That is a lot of it. Everything runs fine until some business major gets in there and starts "fixing" things.

[@Shineynsparkles]

Well start a company then

[@vex6559]

...yet couldn't live without them...

[@paccawacca4069]

Just He. Women don't found jobs.

[@JDmix123]

@@Shineynsparkleshe’s pointing out, how the left won. What he said is true and has completely destroyed this country.

[@randomcommenteronyoutube1055]

I've finished education up to a PhD and now work as a professional clinician-scientist. Apprenticing in a lab full-time, under a functional human being and scientist who's not a neurotic trainwreck of a person would have been 10x more effective and efficient. College is a joke. Science does not need to happen in universities. Lots of undergrads who come into my lab via co-ops, apprenticeships, and undergrad research programs are mathematically illiterate.

[@eliriekeberg7127]

Omg, thank you. I taught freshman level chemistry as a TA for many years, and I couldn't BELIEVE how much effort it took to try and teach basic unit conversions to people who claimed to be studying nursing, medical school, or hoping to eventually work in biomedical research. I did what I could, but wow. It still makes me very nervous knowing what I know from first hand experience.

[@randomcommenteronyoutube1055]

@@eliriekeberg7127 Pretty much. I will tolerate remediating the lack of academic preparedness in K-12 schools. In universities or workplaces? No. It's too late, and it's a waste of resources. Go to a community college for that remediation, first.

[@LittleBahamutGTR]

Companies needs to stop with the BS of requiring 3-5 years of experience for “Entry Level”. I know we are advised by other to apply anyways as this is mostly a wish list. But there are still some companies out there with management and HR folks that are out of touch and don’t want to train.

[@adamd9166]

It totally is a wish list, and realistically, someone with a bit of brains and some decent training could do most of those "3-5 years of experience" jobs. Unfortunately, you get the HR idiots who rigidly stick to the wish list.

[@piccolo1906]

I had a job tell me I could not get a promotion because I didn't have a degree, I quit and went to back to school full time graduated, applied for the job again and they would not hire me. a lot of people got screwed like me and have to pay back these ridiculous loans for nothing

[@jeremylewis5551]

Similar scenario. Went to school while keeping the job and upon graduation got a raise. I don't think it was the degree, it was keeping social network inside the company active and showing management I'd jump through the hoop. When you leave a job you're out of the game and start over at square 1.

[@atmosphereoasis9564]

@@jeremylewis5551yeah . All of that hard work and pull yourself by the bootstraps is bollocks and baloney. None of that means anything. Networking is how one becomes successful in this country. Socializing and networking with people for business and personal gain. College degree and experience don’t mean anything. It may help but your network is your net worth

[@timgibney5590]

While it sounds like a bad deal you have to remember the cost of your degree pays off over 25 years. You will make an average of 500K+ more over a life time from someone who doesn't. It is only for your first job yes but it takes 10 years before your experiene covers you and you can start asking for close to 6 figs. Even then ... if you do not have that magical piece of paper most HR departments will use Taleo or some applicant tracking software to black box and filter your resume out. Then you lose bargaining power to set your wage. You did the right thing.

[@MA-wq2ih]

@@jeremylewis5551 Sometimes that's not an option, the job (or at least department policy) won't allow part time school, and it's an either/or proposition. I'm dealing with that same problem now. On the plus side, being in grad school (and remote most of the time) enabled me to avoid the Covid vaccine mandates.

[@atmosphereoasis9564]

@@timgibney5590fuck that shit then. I’ll just work as a software coding engineer or do remote work where I use the laptop and be traveling everywhere or as a digital nomad. They can’t even fork up 6 figures and low one nonetheless but the rest of the first world countries can, miss me with that. I might as well create my own business or leave that corporate world

[@11Bravo84]

Top priority in this world today is to learn survival skills.

[@_Arugula_Salad_]

Yes, like animal husbandry, growing, and preserving food.

[@ditpook]

As a STEM graduate, during interviews at the biggest companies, I was told that they looked for college as an indicator that you know how to learn and how to finish something. I was told when they hire you, THEN the education begins as you learn that job. As I retired, these same companies were trying to hire high school graduates as dumb robots to do the manual parts of the job, burdening the supervisor as the only one doing any real work. By not requiring college, they also get to pay you A LOT LESS so don't expect to be a billionaire.

[@curlyhairdudeify]

Most colleges degrees if you take the useless filler classes out. And if you boil down the core classes, and place about 4 classes per semester, and have the college open every semester (no breaks) the degree can be tackled in about 2 years. Besides that before colleges everything was an apprenticeship. Before surgeons there were Barbers doing the body part cutting...

[@adamd9166]

I'm looking at WGU, and realistically, I could complete a CS degree in a year with not too much problem and some effort (depending on life, of course). If they took out the "required" fluff classes, I could do it in 6 months or less.

[@curlyhairdudeify]

@@adamd9166 I was looking at my Community College for a certain degree. I would have to take days worth of classes throughout the week at different hours. Ex. 7 am, 11 am, 3 pm, and 7pm, for 1 day. The next 3 days it was similar. If that degree was available for Spring, Summer, Fall, and Winter.... That's like a 9 month degree. The way it was set up would have totalled close to 3+ years, and it would have made it horrible to even find a job to find a job to fit its schedule. And on top of the 3+ years. Factor in like 2 of useless classes, and all for an Associates Degree. I decided to do it online. I talked to someone in the field, and she said that she knows people that have done it in 6+ months. I believe her. I have been reading the material, and it is easy AF. I was like, yeah. F*ck that. For computer science I believe Odin's Project or something like that offers free coding classes.

[@starguy2718]

Robert Kiyosaki wrote a book, "Why 'A' Students Work For 'C' Students (And 'B' Students Work For The Government)", which lays out the relative uselessness of college.

[@Washedup007]

4 years ago my wife graduated with an associates degree to be a Physical Therapist Assistant or PTA. Now the PTA job is migrating to a 4 year bachelor's...job hasn't changed, just the education requirements, for no reason! Well we all know the reason, more time to indoctrinate and make money for the schools!

[@DeionSardines]

Southpark: Joining the Panderverse has this video written all over it.

[@klein2252]

The only thing I’d consider going to college for, is how to navigate dealing with insufferable adult children with worthless degrees. Now that’s useful!

[@thelogicalconstructivecrit2267]

Agreed that college is what it is, but in TODAY’S world when these same kids are getting ZERO EDUCATION in the public schools while in High School, it’s pretty scary either way😂😂😂😂

[@greensmurf221]

Walmart being the good guy in all of this? This really is the bad ending timeline.

[@starguy2718]

Back when Sam Walton ran Walmart, it was a pretty decent place. When his kids took over, they brought in the MBA's who screwed up everything.

[@greensmurf221]

@@starguy2718 This is true. The daughter had a horrible coke problem iirc back when I worked there during school.

[@auramdickerson112]

Was watching someone bash Oregons removal of graduation requirements like read writing and arithmetic. The commercial that popped up was promoting gambling profits going to education in Oregon. 😂

[@Tachyon836]

I actually have observed this. Ive applied for multiple jobs before getting the job i have now. All of them require some kind of degree in engineering and the employer just had me take a mechanical understanding assessment they drafted up. I always pass it, scoring on par with other engineers they already had hired. They offer me a position.

[@00Boogie]

I think it was simple institutional laziness. I've heard from folks on the inside about how new applicants would be taken for granted, like the top half of a pile of applications just being thrown in the trash. Requiring a degree is an arbitrary filter that sounds objective to most people because they don't know better.

[@HeinrichDorfmann]

Yeah... don't get your hopes up

[@mikecaymantrades]

I worked with so many people that went to college. So many were lazy and fat. 0:04

[@Gorgonzeye]

Forget the "no training" phenomena, say hello to the no communication world. I got hired remote once and the only thing they sent me was a task card on Jira with a three word title and the rest blank. Not even a due date. Couldn't get anyone to respond to my messages. I was working somewhere else by the next month.

[@stevenbaumann5911]

If I had the power and authority, alot of changes would be done in high school. By the time you are 16 to 18, you should have somewhat of an idea what you want to do. Those that do would have courses tailored to what kind of job they want. That would eliminate alot of the uses for college.

[@unc1221]

They want more consumers not producers

[@stevenbaumann5911]

@@unc1221 I know that. But such a system will inevitably collapse.

[@adamd9166]

That's a good point. I would venture to say that HS might deliberately muddy the waters for students to decide what they are interested in. Then they fart around in college for a few years before they decide.

[@ADobbin1]

Yeah, when someone walks in and asks for a job, say yes and then train them. The exception is stuff like engineering.

[@AnthonyBolognese710]

10:51 could be worse. My parents still believe everyone needs college. At least these CEOs realized it.

[@DeionSardines]

Mine too 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@meddlingmage23]

My parents were split on that. My mom was the pro college one. I asked her, "why do all kids have to go to college? Because that's what you were told?" I ended up working for my dad for 10 yrs and taking over his company instead. Best decision, ever.

[@greensmurf221]

My mom is still pro college. My dad is like 'yeah it's not worth it anymore.' But mom works for a college so... yeah, she needs that free blood or she's out of a job lol.

[@atmosphereoasis9564]

@@meddlingmage23it still took like 10 years though. Still would have been a good idea to have at least an associate degree

[@atmosphereoasis9564]

@@greensmurf221typical white liberal women eh 😐? 🤷‍♂️

[@timgibney5590]

I happen to agree with this. This is an outdated 19th century practice where you want certain undesirable classes out of *their* office for sterrage class jobs etc. Basically, it has nothing to do with intelligence or ability to do the job. Only whether his parents are well to do enough to afford to send their kid to college. This went away as college was direct cheap in the 20th century. .... now its back it the 1800s all over again due to costs. It is argueable not worth it yet no one can get married working at a McDonalds since women are hypergamous. It is so frustrating. College needs to be funded by the state with very strict budgets and tuition to make it affordable and do more job training and less theory to make it worthwhile for employers

[@NickM_FirstofHisName]

It's entrepreneurship the way out of it, and that shi* is tough as hell!

[@eliriekeberg7127]

26:50 I applied to a job and in less than 30 minutes I got an email saying I possess "certain qualities that we find attractive" and would like to speak with me on the phone as soon as possible. They then sent me a link to select a 15 minute slot for a phone call 8 days out. How does a recruiter have the time to read my resume and draft me an email, but not have 20 minutes to do a phone call for over a week? Sorry. nobody wants to hire anymore.

[@Shineynsparkles]

Automation

[@LittleBahamutGTR]

Be careful though, companies can remove the degree requirements and use it as an excuse to pay that position less. Some level of supply and demand still applies so more competition for that role so maybe applying 500+ jobs online with no interview is going to get worse.

[@davidcarvajal5739]

Minimun requirements = minimun wage

[@HeinrichDorfmann]

Great dark humor on a Monday morning, thank you sir!

[@joeamerican3947]

I blame it on the boomers. My life has been been wasted by going to college. I took marine biology but needed more schooling for a job I've been enslaved by debt.

[@exvan3571]

Insert obese Southern New Hampshire University "I did it!" spokeshuman here

[@TamVu77]

I attended college (mid-90's) to get access to computers and software. Ie Autodesk Acad and various Adobe software. Now there's broadband, EDU versions, pir8 pricing and affordable computers.

[@megacide84]

Ultimately. This is meaningless. We are on the verge of a massive hyper-automation and A.I. boom in the workplace. When all is said and done... This will be far worse than the outsourcing of factory jobs a generation ago. I strongly advise everyone to seek employment in non-automatable and non-outsourceable jobs and professions only. It is the dawn of the New Machine Age.

[@adamd9166]

Cappy said something a while ago about the future economy being about 3 main classes of jobs done by humans once most things are automated: Maintaining the technology (programming, tech skills) Keeping things running in the meantime (trades, mechanical skills and the like) Human services that some wouldn't want done by a robot (services. some people will always want their waitress to be a human, for example) I use that as a good framework for how to prepare with the future economy. Focus on developing skills in those 3 broad categories.

[@MrRhetorikill]

There are no jobs that cannot be automated. The machines we are building, specifically AGI, will be better at EVERYTHING than humans.

[@megacide84]

@@MrRhetorikill Cautiously optimistic... I believe law enforcement, prison guard, and private security won't be automated for obvious hacking and malfunction reasons. At least for another full generation. Just in time for me to enter retirement age. I for one cannot see drones that can seriously injure or kill a person legally allowed on the streets anytime soon. As I see it... Any occupation in safety or policing might be deemed too dangerous to automate.

[@MrRhetorikill]

@@megacide84 its the opposite, it will be deemed too dangerous NOT to automate. In 25 years people will be horrified at the idea that human beings drove cars around next to other humans. It will all be automated the second the machine has a lower failure rate than humans, which is not that hard to achieve. Once the failure rate of the machine is lower you are killing people if you don't automate it. What do you think our politicians will do? Do you think they will protect your right to do stuff yourself and take the responsibility of getting people killed? I doubt it

[@11Bravo84]

Young men, listen and comprehend what Cappy is saying.

[@Dan.50]

I was telling everyone that this was dumb in the 80's.

[@enjoy-ly7zw]

Sounds like a scam to pay people less since they’re lightly educated

[@iand7475]

I work in construction in London. I work on a lot of offices. They are half empty all week. On Mondays and Fridays the tube is empty.

[@kyleshockley1573]

Too many corporate interests and smaller players complicit in how things are now will always drag things out, no matter how dysfunctional or bassackwards they become. It's why you have commuting and the housing market being what they are still. The snake likely continues to eat its tail, because immediate need to consume is being met.

[@HairlessTomCat]

I loved this rant today Cappy… listened to it on my commute to work😂….hard to give chemo to people from home though.

[@eliotness107]

In my country during the 80s, pretty much all college programs was 2 years. You went in and studied hard for the thing you wanted to do and once your out you were ready to work immediately as entry positions in that profession. Nowdays college was increased to 3 years for no reason. Just so you can waste your time some more.

[@davidcarvajal5739]

College was 3 years in América before the 70s.

[@stockpile2137]

Anybody seen the new South Park movie 🍿 The Panderverse. They went after college and culture war extremely hard! 👏 😂

[@chintz7428]

It was great. Especially the handyman 🤣

[@fastbackgt4821]

Was offered a job by Tesla earlier this yr to do exterior car design. 100k a yr but I'd have to move to Freemont CA. Nope. Mt degree in Industrial engineering tech looks good but it's the 25 plus yrs experience in 2d and 3d design is what got me the offer.

[@nv_spartan1771]

You do not need a degree to write computer code for most businesses. It used to be easy to get a job in software without a degree. Now it's impossible.

[@goratron1]

End of the day, if it is not STEM stay away. Take it from me, I had 6 years total for my bsc in science and msc in electrical engineering, you can make alot of money with those degrees but there is alot of filler and I don't know how they are aloud to make these degrees last longer than 1.5 to 2 years. Overall I enjoyed my msc in electrical engineering as it was purely a two year degree with absolutely no filler(exactly how it should be). My 4 year science degree on the other hand, I will never forget that bs indigenous studies unit I was subjected to in first year.... which is infuriating considering the degree was in laboratory medicine. I don't understand to this day why people go to university to study things like art and commerce etc you can teach this stuff to yourself. People wonder why they can't get jobs and that their degrees are worthless, its because of industrial complex churning out BAs like there is no tomorrow. If you're not going to go for the intensive stuff like engineering which are designed to weed most people out, go become a tradesmen because if you can't handle STEM, which many can't(and that's ok) don't bother as you will end up with a bullshit art degree or something. Hell I knew a guy who started in engineering, realised in second year that he wasn't smart enough for the work so he moved over to teaching, then commerce and eventually got a degree in retail operations and works as a store manager. All I was thinking was, "dude, give it up, just go get a job, what are you doing to yourself".

[@musclesmouse]

I thought about it and back in the 2000s, I did not think I needed a degree to do my job.

[@Markbell73]

Purin doesn't throw curve balls. He throws knuckle balls. And they're coming over the plate with heat. Despite the ambient. Ever see a Flanker go vertical off the runway.......? ^ that kind of heater knuckle ball.

[@unknowninfinium4353]

Shit. Been unemployed for 5 years and this happens. Just when I thought I could break through.

[@mbc00295]

Evil Rich Guy voice is hilarious 🤣

[@starguy2718]

Thurston Howell 3rd

[@mbc00295]

@@starguy2718 He nailed that voice 👌

[@Wet_Willys_Wetter_Water]

I read somewhere that the interest on the national debt is now or soon will be the single biggest item on the governments budget. Its gotta be over a trillion a year by now

[@AbandonedMaine]

Ever read the 1950's study "the Organization Man"? How corporate culture enforced an intellectual cancer of mindless yes men?

[@WolfNCyote]

Personally, any college research patent that was created with tax money should be automatic public domain.

[@joimumu]

Cappy have you seen South Park Panderverse? The B plot of that movie is pointing out a lot of things you are talking about

[@hughjass4838]

Liberal universities: income inequality! Tax the rich!.......liberal universities: *jacks up tuition every year. *sits on multi billion dollar tax free endowments.

[@PenNamed]

Cappy reminds me of Uncle Junior

[@cas2985]

Had a girlfriend with only HS diploma. She worked in IT using a beta application, one of two sites in US. When product rolled out she took consulting position as she was literally one of maybe five people in world who knew product. A true world class expert. She would never get hired back at old company because her old position now required college degree. Insanity.

[@Melbester9]

So what happened after that? What did she do?

[@decwow]

4:10 fucking hell... there's only 2 others out there? 😂

[@ReysonFox]

All it takes is a test and given the opportunity to learn it all hands on under another. Should be able to be anything you want to be without years of debt and stress of a degree.

[@waynethompson1115]

I have a GED. debt free when i was 33.

[@NickM_FirstofHisName]

I'm here for the comments

[@zg-it]

If I'm looking at a prospective employee, the college degree will not give them any bonus points, if anything it'll put them down on the list. College teaches kids that they're smarter than they are, make them think that they have experience that they don't, and they're usually in debt

[@jonathankay9957]

And while we're at it can we do something about business "leaders" who submarine their businesses by giving family no show jobs?

[@CH-vv2hr]

Boomers aint got shit on me anymore. I just door dash in a super dependable car and im teaching myself how to code front end and back end 🎉

[@courtneygillespie1187]

I agree but this guy lives under of what he is capable of 👍

[@DreidMusicalX]

You cannot make this lunacy up.

[@BobbaFett312]

Cappy, I plan to get phd in gender fluid studies, taking 300k student loan, is this good idea? My mommy told me I'm a special pancake

[@josiah5776]

New hashtag for Cappy ... #MWTA - Make Women Thin Again

[@jeremiahthomas1385]

Well I think coñfeferting office space to apartment space is a good idea.

[@trevorknight9704]

I had college degrees and couldn’t get a job for a hs diploma requirement.

[@Thisisfifty]

This could have massive consequences worldwide

[@Merlin_From_Shrek_3]

Now for the 5 year experience requirements for entry level positions lmao

[@Sigmalennycareers]

Chill cappy!! 😂😂😂😂

[@Markbell73]

Cappy should read about Michael Faraday. Faraday pretty much laid out the mathematical groundwork, plumbing, including the superstructure of electronics. And he did so, outside of the science hierarchy, and with barely a college degree, probably not even from Cambridge. A university he lectured at more than he attended. He did this the Cappy way, before Cappy's great, great, great grandfather was a twinkle in Reptile's green eye. (< can't help myself). How many example lessons of work ethic could Cappy pull off of Faraday's storied life? And all Faraday got, was a cage, and the unit of measure for capacitance.

[@pippip8744]

He learned to read and write at Sunday school and got interested in chemistry whilst an apprentice bookbinder and was offered tickets to a lecture. He later became the assistant of the lecturer. Some people just have the right combination of natural skills, desire and application. College simply cannot do anything for people that bright, apart from perhaps serving to dull them.

[@tear728]

He was notoriously bad at mathematics. It took Maxwell to describe many of Faraday's discoveries with math

[@Markbell73]

@@tear728 that's not what I recall learning from The Mechanical Universe. Guess I'll have to watch that series again.

[@rajunaidu7751]

Captain Cappy to Commander Cappy

[@JMSouchak]

I wonder how Cappy feels about credit scores?

[@immortaljanus]

President Cappy and Vice-President Bill Burr, improving society...

[@ditpook]

Did you know that the secret service has to lower its standards to allow people who used drugs because they can't find anyone your age who didn't try them?

[@ryanmac8283]

If you do not have degree for the job you work at it is pointless.They like good little drones.

[@Mens_Rights]

In the chat, Rev 3519 wrote "​I can troubleshoot to component level, never went to college other than the college of the internet" Yeah. You're not an engineer. You don't even know what engineers do. Troubleshooting is something that technicians do. Engineers are in R and D, or at the very least are "designing" something, to use a layman's language. Ask somebody else what those letters stand for. My patience with B S artists has always been limited.

[@ryanrose3510]

Bogus degree from bellyup college? I didnt know that was a thing

[@lightclawshadowmarsch8167]

Then don't hire them. Because if they get hurt. On the job they can sue u for everything an not worth the risk.

[@roncall6065]

The commute was for gas ⛽️ profits

[@conwaytwitty8018]

Better late than never, I guess.

[@Markbell73]

And the weak shall inherit the earth.

[@starguy2718]

Meek, not weak. Meek means humble and teachable: you are there to learn something.

[@Markbell73]

@@starguy2718 I know what the word means. I changed it on purpose.

[@Mens_Rights]

@Joe in the chat - "Unless you do engineering, medicine, pharmacy, nursing or you want to be an academic(eg mathematican). college aint worth it. certificates are better" Was there ever any doubt about this?

[@adamd9166]

We all know it. The problem is that they MBA and HR idiots don't know or don't care. They still want the fancy degree-holders.

[@Mens_Rights]

I can see that I have one reply, but KZbin won't let me see it. Have to love the censorship around here. 🙄

[@michaeldavis3819]

I'm going to retire from the Army in the next two years. I'm close to having two Bachelor degrees, and I already have two Associate degrees. I'm seriously considering just using my Spanish and automotive skill sets just to get a job as a machinist apprentice and say "fuck it" to the government jobs altogether.

[@EmperorDionx]

Cappy talks about commuting to work as if his mother died commuting to work or something

[@markumoeder]

It’s turning out to be an outdated institution

[@redgrant4897]

For engineering you need an internship or COOP. That is the "training" for an electrical, nuclear or mechanical engineer. But those internships are few and far between even for 4 year engineering grads qnd getting those internships depends on contacts. Peter Thiel recommends not going in to any type of engineering because the market is unpredictable and small to begin with. He said that when he graduated from Stanford, nuclear engineering was one of the worst fields to go in to. The only major in his opinion worth it - outside of the licensed professions e.g. RN, DDS, MD etc. - is IT / Computer Science and to do it as cheap as.possible. You can put your projects on line and it qualifies you. The 4 year college degree is a sh__ show. In fact, according to the National Employment Bureau, 75 % of STEM graduates don't even work in STEM.