US House of Representatives passes bill that could lead to TikTok ban | DW News

[@vectorfox4782]

Look at how social media has made people dumber in the last 2 decades.

[@ricardoxavier827]

The americans control all the other social networks, and indeed they manipulate massevely all EU users into far right wing content, and now far right wing parties around all EU are rising. So, Tik tok must be owned by EU and not by USA, to protect EU citizens from USA cultural attack over EU liberalism and socialism.,-.-,-,-.,.,

[@moloperams]

People were always dumb. Social media is just exposing it to a wider audience.

[@ZWD2011]

Agreed. It's causing the telephone zombie disease. You can recognise infected people by the mushrooms growing in their ears.

[@koiyujo1543]

In a way but we're not stupider

[@anthonyhoang5902]

People were dumb before social media too.

[@arnoackermann6584]

It shows us what Europe should do with Facebook and the Instagram

[@RPSartre01]

Tell us CCP stooge?

[@nenadmitrovic3469]

​@@RPSartre01 CEO of tik tok is from Singapure, biggest stock owner is US company...

[@Mautiks]

Yes. I wish Europe would ban US companies in their countries. Then we wouldn’t have childish rules placed on us and limits to our freedom of speech by accommodating Europe and its authoritarian anti-“hate speech” laws… 😂 🇺🇸

[@WRATH19]

Why did Facebook , x , KZbin , Google ban in china😂😂

[@stevenjohnson891]

As an American I would love to see Europe remove Facebook and Instagram. They will do it here later on hopefully.

[@TrixiLovesYou]

If tiktok has no ties to China, why is the chinese government even commenting on the issue?

[@MrMarcosema]

KZbin is banned in China, what's the problem?

[@cancayate5x]

Because youtube doesn't open it's database to Chinese government to investigate. Tiktok is ooen

[@WSOJ3]

Google was offered to operate in China given it follows Chinese regulations. It refuses to, and pulled out of China. TikTok followed every US regulation there is to follow and still get banned for being Chinese in corporate ownership.

[@socrates5647]

Google Facebook etc. companies were welcome in China, the companies themselves decided not to operate in China , becoz they don't want to follow the Chinese law like other companies operating in China.

[@UncleFordsInterrogatories]

The problem is Americans claim to enjoy free speech!

[@TheSingularity8]

I thought U.S. wanted the moral high ground?

[@luttelkikker]

Everything is a threat when you're weak.

[@tallutawilliams]

the american government is so weak under the rule of biden

[@user-1rg9f2-g3l6d]

That's exactly why TikTok, FB, KZbin, etc. are all banned in China.

[@0onpoint]

Lindsay Gorman zuckerberg

[@ares106]

Good riddance. Facebook next please.

[@XxHygherUpxX]

agreed

[@PewDiePie777]

Instagram, and porn sites should be blocked around the globe too.

[@robertduluth8994]

Weak

[@nicktrifilis4832]

It's money you hypocrites

[@tallutawilliams]

exactly what i thought.

[@anthonyhoang5902]

It's always about the money in America. Someone rich in America will buy Tiktok, to get richer.... then pay off those politicians.

[@ricardoxavier827]

The americans control all the other social networks, and indeed they manipulate massevely all EU users into far right wing content, and now far right wing parties around all EU are rising. So, Tik tok must be owned by EU and not by USA, to protect EU citizens from USA cultural attack over EU liberalism and socialism.,-,.-.,.-

[@normusdoar]

.. and power

[@koiyujo1543]

​@@anthonyhoang5902because American companies can't compete

[@Kwippy]

Tik Tok is causing brain damage in every country where it operates, never mind national security.

[@CuriousMindofSP]

Hypocricy of Ameriacn Democracy

[@waynegore5291]

If we lose in competition, it's national security.

[@dustintacohands1107]

Tik tok is vile

[@kickass7104]

It is national security 😑😑😑

[@weird-guy]

Like how banning huawei from using gms helped apple 😂gotta love freedom loving Americans

[@dustintacohands1107]

@@weird-guy not only was their theft of apples technology obvious it was hilarious. And you bitching about Huawei being banned is hilarious because we both know those phones weren’t secure. I’m already being watched by US government I don’t need the Chinese government to watch me too.

[@kickass7104]

@@weird-guy like banning Facebook and KZbin gotta love freedom loving Chinese 😂😂😂

[@joze2003]

Agree with the US. Europe should only allow Europe owned social networks and Europe controlled algorithms

[@EuroTravChannel]

Who has totally banned TikTok, India, Nepal and Afghanistan. Who has banned governmental use: EU, Australia, Belgium, Canada, France New Zealand and UK, and Chinese Taipei/Taiwan province of China.

[@mosog8829]

@1:58 China warns the US😂? Yet they don't allow foreign social media apps in their country.

[@teogeorge2203]

So away goes with democracy that the West are proud of. Both US and China are going the same thought, communism?

[@alanssshh]

Apple and Microsoft working fine in china because they follow Chinese laws

[@JamilOmn]

Pakistani election commissioner went to Russia today to run Putin political campaign. Pakistan is no more an ally of the United states. Government of Pakistan working closely with Russia now a days.

[@risekelevra3405]

We will survive without Pakistan 😂

[@king27702]

Ban tiktok on whole europe also 👍

[@mv4424]

OF doesn’t hurt the interests of Israel if anything AIPAC would fund OF to keep Americans distracted with their willies

[@chenboya7223]

absolutely, EU's mind should only be controlled by Meta

[@klausgartenstiel4586]

tech bros will sell their grandma if it gets them another billion.

[@0onpoint]

Lindsay gorman

[@LegaliseFinland]

I hope The House can unite on this at least. The CCP is making kids be interested into edging.

[@muhammadhisyamimaduddin2219]

McDonalds is about to get tons of new workers

[@feddi7693]

😅

[@ryanwalters6184]

They cant keep a job

[@Today97129]

They'll just hop over to either Instagram reels or KZbin shorts

[@ngoyemichel5406]

You do realize VPNs exist right?

[@hobbiesofstefs7085]

@@ngoyemichel5406 VPN's wont work to get around this ban because they will remove the ability for IP addresses to connect to tiktok.

[@zs5002]

Facebook next

[@marcusjeffriesjr7369]

Lol facebook is a US business lol

[@mgronich948]

Facebook is a US intel agency business

[@happymelon7129]

TikTok show too much what is happening in GZ . That's why the ban

[@fengkuangyu7116]

Exactly!

[@devildevil2271]

Hypocrisy can do wonders

[@koushikdas1992]

Even as a non-american, I also want that ban.

[@whitemoon5752]

Next is X

[@mgronich948]

The two big social media platforms where a majority of the content moderators aren't from the US intel agencies are Tik Tok and X. So yes X is next.

[@mv4424]

They might keep X as some form of controlled opposition since it’s less popular than TikTok, but TikTok is the big one they can’t let the youth communicate without them having the ability to control the narrative and reach like they do on Facebook and Instagram.

[@hermesliteratus882]

The social media that really should be banned is FB.

[@mathisnotforthefaintofheart]

Tic Toc has become more popular than US social media. And Tic Toc is not in hands of US companies. That's the only reason.

[@hermesliteratus882]

True, see what happened to Huawei and BYD.

[@kaustavisi]

When TikTok got banned years back in India, we knew it is a good decision. Time is proving it.

[@AnAverageChinese]

Anything can threaten national security when you are weak

[@FieldDay-cj3tv]

Wow can we ban google too

[@ivanttosuckyourblood]

China did ban Google

[@schlafcomandanten]

@@ivanttosuckyourblood When errorists used Facebook to plan attacks in Xinjiang , FB got 2 choices. Either stop the errorists on the platform or FB will get kicked out ... They chose to get kicked out.

[@FieldDay-cj3tv]

​@@Sweetcitrusyfair is fair

[@FieldDay-cj3tv]

​@@Sweetcitrusybut they say All is Fair in Love and War

[@RPSartre01]

Why not - they banned it in China.

[@winstonchinogwenya7520]

So you want to close all sources of information you do not control BUT CLAIM you are a democracy 😂😂😂.

[@OptLab]

No you are wrong. Your type of comment is censored in the chinese app when it comes to defend western apps. Whereas your current comment is visible on youtube.

[@jkc3738]

Are you joking ? I have left 10 comments here, 5 of which will be censored and blocked. Sometimes it will only be shown to myself and sometimes it will be deleted directly.

[@randyraudi7725]

@@jkc3738 Same with me, I swear Google has a extra list for naughty boys which could pose a danger to this system if they speak freely. Maybe this comment of me wont be visible too, it is a gamble. But it seems if all your sentences are made as questions it is more likely that you wont get censored. Oh and comments on comments are also more likely to be visible.

[@winstonchinogwenya7520]

@@OptLab A democracy does not ban sources of information you do not like or that is owned by people you do not like. The US is clearly a communist country pretending to be a the opposite. You confiscation (stole) billions of money from the Russias because they are Russian .Now trying to strong arm a foreign company to sell to you or be banned. You fund most of the conflicts in the world. China and the US are the same.

[@OptLab]

same goes when people comment on chinese channels that criticize them, channels not being not banned by KZbin. In the meantime any pro western channels in China put people in serious trouble@@jkc3738 Make sure you don't insult or put external link. This is standard for YT

[@Jkl62200]

US trying to do a daylight heist.

[@user-1rg9f2-g3l6d]

China is way ahead of the game.

[@ferdiyansurya]

Meanwhile: Alexa: “yes, tik tok is a threat to national security haha haha” Siri: “yes haha haha” Google: “hahaha hahaha, aiiight?”

[@harryloo8544]

EU should also ban all US app so they can develop their own. As of now EU had no major tech company.

[@uchennaabosi7651]

But BOLT is a major EU tech company.

[@poweedlo]

If I get it right, murica must sell Apple to Xiaomi to stay on Chinese market

[@WSOJ3]

To Huawei 😂

[@wadss]

if the ccp wants to make that happen, they are free to do it.

[@weird-guy]

Huawei is bigger than Xiaomi and the USA already targeted huawei by forbidden them to use gms and thus killing huawei market share international and helping apple

[@joexavier4070]

Already apple sales down in china..in future it will exit from China

[@richardong1421]

​@@wadssno need. China confident that they can singlehandedly beat Apple with no cost at all. Apple is just old uncompetitive company.

[@jxon6246]

Outright ban is not the goal. The goal is to force them to sell, and thereby basically revealing Tik-Tok's real issue. If they refuse to sell, it's because their interest are beyond sheer commercial interest, indicating a more obscure intention.

[@PolanskiJoe]

Actually a very good train of thought! I surely agree to that!

[@poweedlo]

If they refuse to sell they just refuse to sell the asset that makes money for them and have a potential to make a much greater money. Ok ok who is interested in logic today you're right 😆

[@timmy-wj2hc]

Right le me buy your business, if you refuse, it's more than commercial interest.🤦‍♂️🤡🤣

[@jxon6246]

​@@timmy-wj2hc They Have China. Losing the USA MarketShare shouldn't be such a loss. Oh wait!. It's forbidden in China. For the very same reasons... 🧟‍♂😵. We all can practice due diligence from our small corner in the world.

[@weird-guy]

That’s some mental gymnastics 😂

[@haoyeleong541]

If it is really for the “national security” US should change the server device or improving the code behind the apps Not just changing the ownership 🙄🙄🙄

[@AP-ei4jt]

The bill also lets the government decide if any media platform is a "national security threat" and subsequently be banned. Your freedom and free speech are a total facade.

[@dustintacohands1107]

Tik tok is garbage hopefully it’s banned forever

[@xiphoid2011]

National security existed long before Tiktok.

[@berlineczka]

Freedom of speech is not a right to a platform, and a specific one on top. You have a right to say what you please, but 1) You are not free from consequences from what you said. 2) There is no right to be given a way to express your freedom of speech, especially on a privately owned social media platform. 3) The freedom of speech related to the relation between individual and the state. You are protected from state prosecution for expressing most opinions (again, the right is not absolute, when it is in conflict with other rights the other rights may be given precedence), but not from the private entities not allowing you on their platform. They have every right to remove you from their platform if you go against their terms and conditions, and they can formulate these terms and conditions however they please, as long as it is abiding the law. If they remove you for violating the terms and conditions, they have every right to do so and this is not an infringement on your freedom of speech.

[@AP-ei4jt]

@@berlineczka none of what you said apply. Not sure what your point is. Come up with something relevant to the case and not just copy and paste.

[@AP-ei4jt]

@oilnfire That's a pack of lies. China asked overseas social media platforms to conform to a set of rules. They refused. The US asked Tik Tok to comply with rules such as data protection and Tik Tok complied. See the difference?

[@georgephutsisi8838]

In simple words “America hates competition, therefore it’ll steal or ban that competition at will.” - close quote 😅

[@UncleFordsInterrogatories]

True, this is about keeping American advertising dollars out of Chinese hands!

[@hagjirui]

free market

[@georgephutsisi8838]

@oilnfire well we all know that China is authoritarian government so why is democratic USA copying what authoritarian government does? Shouldn’t they be practicing democracy instead ..?

[@miguelmelchior986]

Cant beat them? Cancel them 😄

[@mrtee3477]

The NSA wants to be the sole owner of your data.

[@MLTUNESMRD]

Google a threat to world security

[@hermesliteratus882]

And FB.

[@bobbybrodnax3096]

we the people of the united states, in order to fprm a more perfect union,estalish justice ,insure domestictranquility provide for the common defense promote the general welfare, and secre the blessing of liberty to ourselves this constitution for the united stateof America.

[@StevenFullmer1]

Small businesses can move their audience over to Instagram in 6 months. Anything else is just complaining.

[@Commonsenseisnotcommon8]

Why is small business on social media. Was started to be social so you could connect with your friends and just share your pictures or what’s going on. I don’t want all those ads and I don’t wanna buy your products. I mean if I wanted your stuff, I would look up your website. They should ban all that across all social media. Or start a social media just for small business please

[@kudajingkrak4919]

@@Commonsenseisnotcommon8 How can you know my stuff if ads is banned and i can't advertise..?? How small businesses can grow if they can't advertise..??

[@aburetik4866]

joke of the century: Americans have freedom of speech 😆

[@Realitycheck07]

Only freedom i see from US is selling Weapons around world as much as they want when others tries they cry and sanctions.

[@BrandonEBoyd]

Tik Tok is a platform NOT speech. There is no Constitutional right to be on any social media platform.

[@maebusgaming7913]

They still do. Just not on a foreign app.

[@mathisnotforthefaintofheart]

@@maebusgaming7913So they don't in reality.

[@happymelon7129]

US banning tiktok, the congress breaking the first amendment rights is ironic

[@hermesliteratus882]

It's solid proof they don't give a damn about the constitution.

[@jacobrandall4891]

1:08 the american exonomy existed without Tiktok before, and it will do fine after. Also people can still post videos on the internet so the 1st ammendment rights are not at risk

[@terryhsiao1745]

Free market for the US. And restricted market to everyone else

[@Carl0s695]

Yes because Beijing allows all US stuff into their free market

[@enzocannizzo7411]

China has a free market ???

[@Carl0s695]

@@enzocannizzo7411 sarcasm alert of course they don't, it open with caveat all over the place

[@terryhsiao1745]

@@Carl0s695 yes they did until donald trump started the trade war which was continued by Biden.

[@Loreless]

​@@enzocannizzo7411 the US only talks about freedom

[@rockyyams]

Funny how purely politial this is

[@Kwippy]

Yeah. Down with politial.

[@BrandonEBoyd]

Allow American social media into China, then we can talk.

[@robertduluth8994]

@@BrandonEBoydno

[@jianlili1981]

@@BrandonEBoyd sure，any American social media can come into China as long as they comply with Chinese laws.

[@monkeybusiness2204]

Europe should introduce bill to force TikTok to be owned by European based company. After that's done, then they should move on to other big brands like Google, Apple and so on.

[@0onpoint]

Europeans like Lerner spectre tim wise baruchs levi’s pasternak’s

[@jianlili1981]

Europe should force any social media to be owned by European based company! Why just tiktok?

[@6figureetal]

tiktok banned to ban pro palestinian content 😒

[@AnkurBanikOfficial]

What's wrong with US? Why it's so hard to cancel tik tok? 😂

[@koushikdas1992]

Because their people loves freedom of choice unlike India. India state directly banned tik tok without taking opinion of fellow citizens. Most young people of India were against banning it as well.

[@bobbybrodnax3096]

the tiktok representatives all peoples. good information on tiktok.thankyou........

[@lincolneserio7620]

Philippines must also banned tiktok....

[@jonnyg8501]

What this segment failed to address who his behind this push to ban the app: Israel

[@MopeyFand]

What about the untold number of Chinese-owned companies who own games on the Play store?

[@Cryosxify]

i wouldn't mind banning all products directly connected to a hostile state, and in ccp China every company has some ccp presence in it

[@moloperams]

They are just protecting KZbin and Meta's Instagram against a fierce outside competitor.

[@ExxtraSpicyBoi]

The games really can’t influence voting or collect specific data like personal info & geographical location your credit cards used in the in-app purchases can collect that data

[@hermesliteratus882]

Yeah, first HuaWei, then BYD and TikTok, if you cannot compete with them, just ban them. @@moloperams

[@Mike-dj1ru]

Ban Facebook Ban Google Ban The Internet. Read Books & Send Letters...

[@Gabson9]

1:10 what is this guy on about? Nobody bans your freedom of expression.

[@madchemist126]

"hey your vastly popular app is crushing all competitors apps in the US...give it to us!' couldnt china just set up byte dance llc in delaware, sell the western version of the app (which is different from the chinese version) to that company and then be like "ok done"

[@katerina13aar]

I legit laughed when he said that TikTok should be handed over to an American company because it would respect the data and privacy of the American consumer 🤣 Since when? The US has no data protection law!

[@liar-liar]

Hypocrite Vs hypocrisy

[@hermesliteratus882]

Actually democracy equals hypocrisy.

[@ooredroxoo]

To be honest what stops private companies to influence US Voters? Like if Mark or Elon dont like a political party what prevents their companies to impact the party images to manipulate elections?

[@actorneno]

Ban it now !!!

[@happymelon7129]

If American senators really care about the safety of its people especially children, it should consider banning guns. I don't see how TikTok is a greater threat than guns.

[@diversecash]

Does changing the ownership realy solve the National Security concern?

[@swatigupta5041]

Apple, Google, Samsung are no different.

[@hermesliteratus882]

Nope, they are actually even worse.

[@maebusgaming7913]

No one told you to invest in an App that is infinite but finite.

[@voidvector]

If Europeans have the balls, they should do the same for American companies instead of passing wimpy regulations.

[@OptLab]

Western apps news feed and algorithms are diverse and only seek making money. They don't serve an authoritarian agenda to deconstruct civilisation and youth.

[@jokejoker4752]

USA said : we don’t have TikTok so our data is risk and American must use teach company they have so what is META company , twitter and other teach that works around word

[@Cryosxify]

i guess you understand why the ccp has banned Google, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram in ccp China

[@malizoletoli6291]

If their reason was that it's making the youth dumber I would understand.

[@koushikdas1992]

It's both actually.

[@TheKkpop1]

US: anything but China. China: sounds good as Chinaphobia.

[@Commonsenseisnotcommon8]

People need to stop using social media for their business. It’s social it’s just supposed to be fun it’s not the run your small business. That’s what ads are for. I don’t have TikTok, but I never go on social media to shop. And I’m a lot more worried about national security than I am worried about business owners.

[@sidakong9467]

TikTok is a threat to US security as much as Instagram to Germany😂

[@jianlili1981]

wise man!

[@batosato]

Our data is not secure in private US companies either.

[@sean.butterworth]

You mean they actually managed to pass something other than water?

[@teogeorge2203]

In fact, Facebook, Instagram and Meta, etc are equally a threat to other national security too.

[@teogeorge2203]

@@camocas All are collecting personal info. for US data centre.

[@teogeorge2203]

@@camocas You think they are honest and clean companies?

[@kevzortd8073]

​@@teogeorge2203Tiktok is foreign-owned

[@teogeorge2203]

@@camocas But I am just worry simple minded people like you are easily taken in by them.

[@koushikdas1992]

​@@teogeorge2203 Ban them in Germany.

[@simpiwe3319]

Ban Facebook from outside the US

[@blitzrumble2956]

You have already had your wish in your home country: China

[@simpiwe3319]

@@blitzrumble2956 okay

[@ManofValor73]

Let every country make their own app!, let facebook, instagram etc remain in the U.S

[@randyraudi7725]

"The people start to notice patterns and that they live in a censored society and go to sites like Gab now, what should we do ?" "Let us censor the whole internet !"

[@oddcool1]

I wonder what they're trying to sneak in in the bill using this as a cover....!!??

[@suyashyadav7827]

wasn't the US doing the same and is doing for years

[@Richard-s7m]

Free Assange.

[@TheSpiritombsableye]

Tiktok is a bane to our society. Even Vine never encouraged eating Tidepods.1:10

[@julioduan7130]

Germany should ban Facebook, Instagram, X, Google due to national security concerns.

[@mgronich948]

Germany won't. What matters is the national security of the US neocons.

[@williamlai29]

US House of Representatives passes bill that could lead to TikTok ban 13:45 Lawyer: ...its get out the popcorn moment...

[@robinbaby1971]

Ban it

[@authentic_experts]

why media are always interviewing haters of Trump😅. ?

[@Os_man8903]

Bunch of lies.

[@jeremiahjohnson7515]

An American company that will protect American data? Name one that already does. (listens to your answer). And how many times have AMERICAN companies sold our data to China?

[@kayskreed]

National interests = Government interest, not people.

[@jacobrandall4891]

Disagree. there's evidence that tiktok algorithms in China promote stem and good societal behaviors, where in the west its dumb trends and deplorable behaviors. the ccp is training the upcoming generation in America to be dumber

[@blitzrumble2956]

You would be correct if were referring to CCP's China. Unfortunately US is not like what you said, where people can vote.

[@normusdoar]

America concerned data is more secure at private companies and chinese government might have access to it, yet America has laws that allows it's government total access any time to data of private companies. It's ok when America does it but not when others does it? It's not double standards, guys, america wants total domination over global power and economy. They dont want products competing or dominating american products!!!

[@tushar6767]

I'm happy that I'm living in india and our government doing good for our seafty in india tik tok is banned

[@thefunnycomments2358]

Apps come an go. History will look back in anger

[@avv2795]

Americas government….open border, Chinese balloons but they worried about Tik Tok. 🤦‍♂️

[@donkalzone6671]

Shouldn't we ask the same question? Doesn't the US and their agencies have to much influence with their BigTech? We are highly dependent Microsoft, Android and can easily influenced by Facebook, Instagram, X, etc

[@Jimmy4video]

That last guy clearly bought tiktok shares lol

[@JohnMcmillin-br8tk]

Meet the new boss,same as the old boss.

[@titanxie5579]

Even a good thief worries about theft.

[@DarkstarDarth]

Ban TEMU next.

[@harryloo8544]

very underhanded

[@HTeo-og1lg]

Meantime, I get censured for making my conscience speech by US social media. It seems that the land of the free is a misnomer.🙄🙄

[@PewDiePie777]

It's a threat to a whole world security.

[@hermesliteratus882]

Not as much of a threat as FB.

[@branko1408]

Thats about free market…

[@JoseRubiano-um5ei]

Excellent....