US Marine reacts to Why the Swiss Love Their Guns

Respect to Switzerland for the incredible community they've built around guns! I never expected a European country to compete with America on their appreciation and quantity of guns
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[@j4m1e38]

For me as a Swiss, I say the guns aren't the problem, it's the people using it, the education how to use guns and the regulations who can buy a gun. Thanks for your reaction, keep up the good work!

[@FlyingMonkeyDevil]

Yep. As a pro gun American, the Swiss shop owner is right on. I'm for responsible owners having guns, just not all the dumbasses. Some measure of training, and safety measures should be mandatory- same as a motor license. Unfortunately, the gun lobby would never allow a cut into their profits, no matter how many people die.

[@Howyodoinn]

Correct sir.🎉

[@Phoenix_OP]

@@FlyingMonkeyDevil I agree with you. I'm Pro-gun and support the idea of Responsibilities being the TOP Priority.

[@RaXXha]

@@FlyingMonkeyDevil The fact that it's somehow a controversial opinion that one should be able to prove they can handle and store their firerarms safely is completely wild to me, and at the same time those same people are usually fine with drivers licenses being a thing. 😅

[@Timbothruster-fh3cw]

​@@RaXXhaBecause it gives the government the means to carry out gun confiscation!

[@eatsmylifeYT]

There's this joke that goes: In 1912, the German Kaiser visited Switzerland and asked a Swiss minister what the 250,000-strong Swiss army would do if Germany attacked with 500,000 troops. The minister's reply: "Shoot twice and go home."

[@neutraler7752]

This is no Fake Story, but this was Happen on the ww2. Das ist keine fake Geschichte, ist jedoch im zweiten Weltkrieg geschehen und nicht im bzw. vor dem ersten Weltkrieg.

[@witchykitten]

I'm Swiss, but I never heard that one. Hilarious lol. Thanks for sharing.

[@adrianguggisberg3656]

@@witchykitten Yeah, and we all still practice 300m shooting as standard, and the river Rhine that separates us from Germany is still 300m wide.

[@steve00alt70]

@@eatsmylifeYT I dont get it

[@stefanhinni406]

@@steve00alt70 simple matematik. With 250'000 men you can kill with 2 shoots 500'000 man. If you shoot first an hit 😜.

[@stauffap]

I was born in Switzerland and i've been living there ever since. I've never discussed guns with anyone here. I don't see this obsession or love for guns here. They are just in our homes and barely anyone cares about them. You never see a gun here in public spaces, except when it's worn by policemen.

[@mastroitek]

Or military personnel, but yeah

[@heregoesnothing6980]

I don’t think there’s an obsession but an awareness. Idk know abt you but me and my friends received an invitation to shooting classes when we turned 18. So yeah i also don’t get this feeling of an obsession he talks abt in the video but it is possible to see teens/young adults walking around with guns going to their shooting classes.

[@PhilfreezeCH]

At universities you actually quite often see people with their guns because they have to go shoot and are transporting their gun. Imagine that in the US, just literally having guns in lecture halls.

[@Uildo]

This is a major point - there is no obsession or glorification regarding guns like in the US for example. No Swiss citizen would think about the right to bear arms as one of the important rights in Switzerland.

[@pitbullsensei179]

Mit dene bekloppte waffegsetz chasch gar kein waffenarr sih ide schwiz.

[@traderjo9552]

You seem to be a bit confused about the screen, all it does is show where it hits. That's it. You don't look at the screen while shooting because it doesn't show you anything. So there's no more of a disconnect than say, pulling out your binos and checking the target. Great reaction though and really awesome video, the history is insane.

[@patrikschlatter1558]

As a swiss guy I can say, that the guns in switzerland are most of the time associated only with military service. Yes, soldiers keep theyr riffle at home, but there is a great difference, that wasn't mentioned in the video compared to the US: They have no amo! 😅 It's not that easy to get any amo outside of the shooting ranges and military facilities. You can't just buy amo in a store. So a gun is not that of a thread in civilian life, if you have no amo tu use it. 😉

[@lasantamuerte4322]

You can order ammunition online with a gun permit or a clean police record. But the army only provides ammo at the official shootingexam every year

[@CanwegetSubscriberswithn-cu2it]

Because Swiss aren't American. Look how both countries started....

[@Asari547]

you can have ammunition but nobdy just leaves a loaded gun lying around, they have to be kept seperated

[@andreaszuber4341]

We used to get a can of ammo we kept at home, but that was changed a couple years ago. The idea was if there is war you could protect yourself while on the way to join your troop.

[@citizendouille]

@@lasantamuerte4322 No permit needed... Just to to a shooting range and buy ammo then take it back to your home ;)

[@nikolaijch3902]

the sius or polytronic system that shows you where you hit is using sound sensors, one over the muzzle of the rifle that sense that a shot has been fired, two are on the targed and the measurement of the time delay between them let you calculate where the ball has hit (or passed) the target surface...a regular calibration is needed, once a year we check the targets, remove the accumulating lead fragments, etc 😊

[@nikolaijch3902]

p.s. you see little diversity because those ranges have as a primary goal to let citizens to train and perform the yearly mandatory shooting with the current assault rifle of the swiss army (fully automatic sig-550), other than that only the use of ex ordnance rifles (schmidt rubin k31 and SIG SG 510) is allowed (and only with ordnance ammunition provided by the army...this is because the range security (balistic walls, sound protection/insulation, forbidden zones/areas ariund the range) is defined with the ballistics of those rifles/ammo in mind

[@a5cent]

Something about this description is incorrect (or maybe I'm misunderstanding). The sensor close to the shooter/muzzle has absolutely nothing to do with determining WHERE a shot hit the target. It only detects that a shot was fired. It is necessary because it is possible to not hit the target at all. Just below each target are three microphones. These are the only sensors that detect WHERE a shot hit the target. It requires three to do the triangulation calculations. The microphones are positioned so they pick up the shot's sonic boom just as it pierces the target. It is extremely accurate. The result is then presented to the shooter on the digital display.

[@jane2902]

@@a5cent You're right! Three microphones on the target detect the hit, and the electronics calculate the exact position using triangulation. The sensor near the muzzle (a photodiode) detects the muzzle flash and is used to tell the electronics that a shot has been fired. This way you can rule out hits that were fired from a stand next to you on the wrong target.

[@becauseican2607]

sius is well known in the US. Fort Bragg as example uses sius targets. There are also systems with more than 3 microphones.

[@Shidai187]

It's very common in Switzerland to shoot rifles on a 300 meter shooting range. This is usually organised in special clubs which are approved by the local responsible shooting officer of the Swiss army. The attachments on the rifles are: - an adjustable iris rear sight to improve contrast - an adjustable globe front sight - a flicker band in case the barrel gets hot, it should avoid flickering of the target sight

[@andersmalmgren6528]

Here in sweden we have something called IPSC. You train and compete more combat oriented, with optical sighting, military clothing etc. And most importantly we shoot more dynamic not just standing or laying prone still. You dont have this? Because i didnt see it in the video

[@boodebamboo]

Hey, we have this but it's not mandatory. Usually it's a 100m by 20m with a stopping wall of earth at end and wood on the sides. Only people that are interested in military or people who want to shoot non-state provided munition will use those. It's fun but anyone can shoot at 25 or 50m and full-auto is not allowed 😭

[@swissarmyknife7670]

@@andersmalmgren6528 not after the military. 99% is like that. you lie down on the ground and the target is 300m away. if you stand, there are holes in the ground, so that the gun is at the same hight as if you lie down. swiss people are maybe the best 300m shooters, but nothing more or less :P and most of us just have the military gun. thats why all of them looked the same. there are two versions. depending on your age and time you went to the military.

[@boodebamboo]

Ps : Big cylinders are to reduce noise The thing attached to the side is to collect the rest of the cartridges that are ejected

[@andersmalmgren6528]

@@swissarmyknife7670 Sweden was like this a few generations back, the entire male population were crack shots with the Swedish mauser. Those days are over, now you have to finance your sport entirely without the government and the police always look at us sideways. Even though ZERO crime is committed with legal firearms.

[@mccarthy86]

American gun culture is more like a hobby so you will buy all kinds of different attachments, guns etc. But gun culture in Switzerland is duty and marksmanship heavy so Swiss military guns are really made for accuracy and people shoot with what they are given for the most part.

[@davedavids57]

Given that 1/3 of the swiss population isn't Swiss, meaning that only about 30% of the population goes in the militia, this isn't really true. The other 70% still have full rights when it comes to buying, owning and keeping arms.

[@justaguy328]

This guy doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. Gun culture in America is literally about defending oneself from foreign enemy, tyrannical government, and criminals. The hobby part is the byproduct. There's a reason it is a right in America, and not in Switzerland. If those guns get in the way of some government goal they can take them away form the swiss, but not in america. It's an enumerated right for Americans.

[@takasu9246]

​@@justaguy328it's stupid that's what it is

[@takasu9246]

​@@justaguy328so you think if the government really wants to take away guns from the people they couldn't? Because it is written?😂

[@adrianguggisberg3656]

⁠@@justaguy328 Clearly shows you dont have the faintest idea how Switzerland works. If the govt. wanted to take our guns away, which is a ridiculous idea in itself, they had to go through a referendum first, which would have to be accepted by the majority of Swiss citizens and the majority of Swiss states. The govt. cant just decide things here, they have to ask for the peoples consent. If the military wants a new fighter jet, there's a vote and the Swiss get to decide if they agree that x amount of taxpayers money should be spent on new fighter jets. Or a new motorway, or a new railway tunnel, or if we accept a trade contract with the EU. So if there was no such law in Switzerland, that would be because the Swiss people didn't deem it necessary, but in fact such a law does exist. However, we dont need to defend ourselfes from criminals because the police does that for us very efficiently, and we dont need to defend ourselfes against tyrannical governments because the Swiss people are the government. So what's left is defending against foreign countries, and that's a much too serious matter to dick around in a forest shooting up empty cans.

[@rexxman79]

As a Swiss, I think US and Swiss is very different: If you see a guy carrying a riffle on a train, bike, car, the only reason he/she would do that (and that is also a law) is to go to a shooting range or come from one or being in a military service atm. Further, after your military service you can give back the riffle if you want and many do that. I did it too, as I don't haven an emotional binding with a gun, it is a tool which I didn't need it anymore, so I gave it back. If you want to keep it, the riffle is going to be modified for single shot mode only. So no automatic anymore. There is no ammo at home and at the shooting range they only hand out the bullets you are going to shoot. So the claim that we are "safe" because every one has a riffle at home is false --> No ammo. We are safe because we have strict gun laws and handle it respectful and with care. Last, Swiss is very strict regarding hand guns. You need to have a permit to own a gun but this does not mean you are allowed to carry it around; "The firearms carrying license entitles the holder to carry a firearm throughout Switzerland. The applicant must be able to credibly demonstrate a particular risk. They must prove their practical and theoretical expertise in an examination."

[@angela_tarantulas]

You can always buy ammo.

[@searchwalter_tv7335]

I'm so happy to be born in Switzerland. It's an expensive place to live, but it's worth it every second.

[@Naikomi95]

It's alright but to be honest, its not much different from living in southern Germany or Austria...

[@searchwalter_tv7335]

@Naikomi95 It depends where you live. Land side, it's a dream, expensive but peaceful.

[@ca819]

​@@Naikomi95Well, I wouldn't wanna live on the other side of the Rhein. Sorry! ✌️🇨🇭❤

[@floowyoo8674]

@@Naikomi95just for the Political system alone i wouldn’t wanna life in any other country. Not Germany or anything else.

[@Naikomi95]

@@floowyoo8674 the system where we have more populist morons then most other nations?

[@viceroyzh]

Some Swiss love their gun(s) but for most Swiss men in military service it's just an involuntary necessity.

[@burnerheinz]

The Gun is a tool to do your part. That's pretty much it.

[@steve00alt70]

@@viceroyzh thats a real shame

[@normi9033]

@@steve00alt70 Not a shame, the military isn't as challenging as the US Army. It's just a joke at this point.

[@PhilfreezeCH]

@@normi9033I think you are forgetting a bit that we have never and will never fight an offensive war or even a war overseas. So our military does not need to be as professional as the US military. Our militaries primary function is to make it so costly to conquer us that it just doesn‘t make sense and any attacker is better of just ignoring us and going around. So providing a lot of people with just enough training to be a real fucking pain in the ass for any foreign occupier is actually a great strategy. Imagine the Taliban but with better equipment and some basic training, thats our long-term strategy. Historically speaking, this has worked very well.

[@citizendouille]

@@normi9033 I think you have no idea about the training of the infantry, grenadiers, etc. ... in the swiss army ... Try an infantry recuits school or a grenadier recruits school... You will find the challenge your are looking for ;)

[@natox2180]

4:21 Seeing a video of my home town with the hill in the background, known as „füddlebaggäberg“ 😂what basiclly means „asscheekmountain“ 😅 because thats how it looks like 😂😂😂

[@angela_tarantulas]

Füdlibaggewäg isch schön zum Wandere 😂

[@ImoowhenIPoo]

Was füre geile name für en Bärg😂

[@faresnoe8428]

Swiss gun culture is more about the sport. People participate in various tournaments with different categories and different guns. But it is always about the accuracy and sportive aspects. We dont just unload mags into a watermelon for fun👁️👁️. (Btw full auto settings are illegal in switzerland)

[@rglcadonau]

We are more mature towards gun as we have compulsory military service. We are not getting guns for fun, to feel strong or manly. We use shooting ranges to train our shootings skills.

[@mikej5959]

What you said is a stereotype though. That’s not indicative of all Americans shooting.

[@nitro5463]

As a Swiss owing a bunch of guns, including several assault rifles and handguns, having served in the army and being an active member of one of the oldest rifle clubs in my part of Switzerland (dating back to the 14th century - yes 100 years before Columbus even set foot on the Amercas ;)) I can state the following: In my opinion the relation to guns in Switzerland is not comparable to the US. While it seems to have a very similar origin, the militia system of old, it seems to me have developed over time differently (hardly surprising). In Switzerland one can basically divide the “civil” gun owners in roughly four categories: 1) The member of the Swiss army (while not on duty) having his assault rifle at home and having to shoot at least once a year. He is not necessarily loving his gun at all. 2) The member of traditional Swiss rifle club/association owning one or multiple current or former Swiss military rifles or handgun. He is more into the sport of precision shooting and therefore not necessarily a gun enthusiast. 3) The gun enthusiast loving his guns and only going to private owned ranges and loves tactical shooting. That person I probably correlate the most with an American loving his guns. 4) And somebody that bought a handgun only for home defence. That one worries me as they often lack training in the first place. While these categories, as in my case, sometimes overlap, I think the first two reflect the Swiss gun tradition for the last 200 years probably best and are probably also the most numerous. Further Switzerland is an extremely wealthy country with a quite solid social security system (in the US you probably would call it already Socialist ;) - health care and quasi free University for everybody) which enables a rather stable society. This probably results in less missuse of firearms. Gun laws here are probably not as liberal as in some US states: You have to be 18, Swiss or of a trusted nationality, no criminal record and not posing a threat to the security. Then you can own most handguns and rifles. Exceptions are semiautomatic rifles and handguns with large magazine, for that you need a special permit which you only get when you basically are member of a shooting club. All full auto and the likes you only get with a very special additional permit. Stuff like silencers and laser also are in the latter category. I hope that clarifies some stuff - and to my countrymen please correct me if I forgot something or got something wrong.

[@jean-emmanuelrotzetter6030]

Thanks. Summaries very well most aspects. Many Swiss (especially in the french and italian speaking part of the country, urban areas too) consider the military arms duties duties, no fun, have no special interests in arms and shooting. Close to all gun activities in Switzerland are within strictly regulated environments - army, shooting clubs. Even hunting is strictly regulated. Those really interested in firearms own several, use them mainly for sports [precision] shooting, mostly in shooting ranges. They usually know very well their arms, mechanics, performances. Carrying arms in public space (other than just transport for military duty, shooting ranges, for hunting) is subject to a special permit granted only for limited number of reasons and requires a weapons test.

[@stevepiemontesi]

Salutation d' un Suisse du canton de Neuchâtel . tu as très bien résumé les choses moi je pense que le sevice obligatoire de maintenant est devenu une mascarade....j"ai 58 ans et à l'époque où j'étais astreint la peur des Soviétiques était total alors pour ma part j"ai passé des mois à tirer et lancer des grenades nuit est jour avec un putain de masque à gaz et un lance flamme sur le dos. Rien à voir avec les chevelus mains dans les poches que je croise de temps en temps . Je vais occasionelement tirer avec ma gamine sur des cible Zombies ou des gongs avec mon P210 et comme tout vieux boomer Suisse j'ai mon fass57+ le k31 de mon père et le k11 de mon grand-père dans la cave.

[@Bucky1836]

We cant get Full autos easy in US (6 month wait minimum 200 dollar tax stamp and most fullautos on registry are crazy expensive 8k for "inexpensive" ) and theres lotta regs most folk dont know till they get here and some US States, Counties and towns are very very very regulated more so than lotta gun control countries

[@Bucky1836]

As a Texan i wish we had the swiss mindset but after Civil war all militias were centralized in to federal military esp after 1903 32:12 sadly nails it

[@peterhueppi7338]

Isch guet erklärt 🫡

[@AndreasWeibel]

I'm Swiss, but I also lived in the U.S. for some time. On average, people in Switzerland are much more critical about the military than in the U.S.

[@papillon6627]

Yeah- here in the US nearly everyone is related to someone who has served, or have actively served in our military. No one wants to fire on their relatives and so it’s a huge deterrent. That said- civilians without relations in the military are weird, soft and oblivious to real world threats both domestic and foreign. Their social media and a-skewed liberal media are a big fuzzy blanket that makes them feel safe from foreign threats, while fearing every “other” domestically. It’s a kind of collective schizophrenia in my mind.

[@ElRambeau2680]

Thats true. Who could have guessed that Putin was so stupid and that we still need the army in 2024.

[@Ultradocker]

Of course we are more critical. Men aged 18+ are forced to go into basic military training for up to half a year. Not a lot of guys look forward to that, some do.

[@brass427]

He's right about this: during such competitions. One gets into a 'zone'. You hear nothing, you see only the target.

[@florihae]

In the Intro, he is shooting a modified (shortened and modernized) swiss assault rifle from the cold war era. (Sturmgewehr 57) It is 7.5mm x 55mm (GP11) caliber

[@Bucky1836]

Awesome weapon

[@PascalRibaux]

It's cool that the tale of our local hero Wilhelm Tell was implemented. But he didn't mentioned why Wilhelm had to flee and hide for a while after his famous shot. The lord, after praising his skillful shot, had a question. He saw that Wilhelm had prepared two bolts and wanted to know why. Wilhelm honestly answered that should he had injured his son, the second bolt was ready to be shot at his lord...

[@zepedrofd]

At every shooting range, you can shoot your service rifle or a swiss surplus rifle. The ammo is VERY cheap (I believe just the cost of production) but match grade quality (the exact same you get when you serve).

[@davedavids57]

Yer it's subsidised by the Swiss Government. Anyone even the 70% of Swiss residents who aren't in the militia can go shoot with cheap government ammo at those ranges. I used to take my AR-15 (I am not Swiss). You aren't allowed to take government subsidised ammo home though. So if you want to buy ammo for home you have to buy it mail order or from a gun shop and it costs about twice as much.

[@tobiasrosenberger3707]

@@davedavids57 If you go to the obligatory shooting, you can buy some „test shots“. These were in the past about 0.5 Fr. each. Last year i paid 5 bucks for 5 shots - thats not really cheap.😅

[@zepedrofd]

@@davedavids57 oh man, I didn't know that!!! I used to shoot an AR15 in Switzerland (EU firearms passport) but in private firing ranges... Full price! 🤣

[@itachiuchiha7728]

@@tobiasrosenberger3707 what a few years back it was only 25 Rappen per Bullet so we need Money i see lol

[@tomboss9940]

​@@tobiasrosenberger3707 You support the club which organises the shooting. It's like buying baked cakes.

[@LukasJampen]

Switzerland focuses a lot on 300m shooting as that is also what we specialze in the military as our idea of defense is to fight in cities as little as possible and hunker down in the mountains and hills, having defensive positions and ambushes. So our rifles are made specificaly to shoot fairly long dinstances at a foe and not urban combat. So use an ambush and precise shots to take down the enemy while they either shoot up the hill or try to advance.

[@Bucky1836]

I read Von Dach Total Defense excellent book and strategy for Swiss

[@tomboss9940]

It's even more to assure, that the weapon is in excellent condition.

[@andrinmatzler8533]

The Target is equipped with sensors that measure the impact of the round (no Leasers or Kameras), at least the one in my village and all others i have seen here in Switzerland. Also the whole system is very low on maintance, we clean it maximum ever 2 Month (Just Cleaning up the Rounds).

[@GodzillaDefenceForce]

I'm swiss and i love everything about this video! We once had to stop shooting (in the army) because an elder couple was hiking through our shooting range. And another time because a deer was standing in front of our target and we didn't want to hurt it :D Thank you for this video, i really enjoyed it!

[@BeatWittwer-x8p]

Switzerland has been manufacturing its own military firearms since the 1880's. It has private and Govt. manufacturers and has always supplied its own army domestically. SIG Sauer is probably the best known and exports 65% of its production. It also manufactures various AA cannons, artillery systems etc. The every present 20mm. of WW2 and beyond is/was a Swiss design as are current 37 mm. machine cannons.

[@wagiqwq]

No swiss I know loves their gun 😂

[@peterstahli7187]

Take it short: The swiss doesn`t celebrate guns, they celebrate gun sports. big difference.

[@freeo24]

bro if you come here in switzerland you could see 14yo driving their mofa (like a scooter/moto) with their rifle in the back

[@youhou2000youhou]

True. Going to each village's shooting range. Very good instructors

[@juyagar6614]

That is the mentality , and here the swiss and the "Americans" are VERY different.

[@denkendannhandeln]

As a Swiss living in a very rural village high up in the Alpine mountains, shooting on ranges is a popular past time. Getting 16 years old, all boys and girls are offered for free by the military months of gun training with the official automatic assault military rifle. Ammunition is provided for free too. And you can take the gun home. I made that courses for two years as a girl. But got never very good at it. It is a social event too. You go flirting there, impress others, win medals and nice prices. So it is not just about shooting but about discipline, precision, mathematics, mastery. Only for self defence. Then we travel to the other villages for competitions, which are going on since centuries. Barbecue always provided by the military. Being 16 you can not enter any night clubs. But beer is legal at that age. So sitting around a fire outside after a shooting day, being admired by your peers if you nailed it, the girls admiring the best shooter ….. this is a good strategy since centuries for the wedding market :-) Then every village has a pub near the shooting range and on the walls you can see all the medals won by your tribe going back 100 years. You can remain a hero even after death and provide esteem and honor for you offspring.

[@steve00alt70]

So do you have modern technology or is it all old?

[@denkendannhandeln]

@@steve00alt70 Mixed. The riffles are new. But the shooting range in itself is very well kept - but very old. At least 40 years old. The kitchen I would say is even older, but clean and functional. It is all military equipment, so made out of the best and most long lasting materials. Squeaking clean. But it all has a kind of WW2 atmosphere and aura. Swiss never throw something away that is still working. I myself live nearby in a house that was build 1870. My bathtubs is from 1890 and still in daily use. As long as it is functioning :-)

[@BeatWittwer-x8p]

Keep in mind Switzerland has very little "spare" ground, especially in mountain valleys hence the "weird" 300/400 meter ranges.

[@Braun30]

Actually the "new" rifles for the army were made to shoot such distances because anyone can shorten a range on the flat but not when shooting from one hill to the other. So the requisite for weapons and ammo that could do the job. I remember some US Army elements from Germany on a visit and a shooting event we organised in Mendrisio asking their commanding officer "why can't we have something similar" after trying the Fass90 at 300 metres.

[@youhou2000youhou]

​@@Braun30the Fass90 is soooooo extremely good / accurate that I admit having regrets giving it back when army time was up, at about 35 if I remember well

[@scavyboi]

Fucking awesome, learn something new everyday. I didn't know this was apart of their culture and ours too. Outstanding video, it definitely deserves an award

[@atvheads]

Now, Switzerland is very small. One can drive around its boarders in a day. So they need their citizens to protect their country. And for a reason, it is a very beautiful country.

[@davedavids57]

The Swiss border is 2,000 km long but if you did it as a square it would be about 1,000km that's a long day!!!

[@jozefsnopek352]

The way the targets work is that they have a set of at least 3 microphones behind each target and it measures the time it takes the sound of impact with the target to travel to individual microphones and then they can triangulate the exact position where the bullet hit the target.

[@dzuppi]

Big difference is that guns are strictly regulated. If you have a conviction or mental condition you are not able to buy a gun. Also (with few exceptions) you are only allowed to carry or transport your gun from your home to the shooting range and back!

[@iLlamaNEG]

On the target hit detection: it is not video, it's a stereoscopic microphone setup which detects the impact sound. The impact position can be triangulated from the various delays to the microphones. It is automatically scored, and displayed for your target, as well as logged on your scoring card. It also times the firing sound so that it can identify misses and/or reject shots fired on the wrong target by accident. This is a necessity because the ranges are exclusively 300m distance, and previously you had to have spotters situated at the targets that radioed the impacts back to the shooter, very inconvenient. This may seem excessive, but these targets are used regularly by the militia for off-service practice, and you need the scoring cards to show that you cleared the minimum required score (or to get a commendation for good shooting). Laser would likewise defy the point of the training, which is a great deal about getting (and keeping) your gun zeroed in for long range shooting. On the tubes: they are sound dampeners. These ranges are situated close (or even in) living areas, and the constant sound of gunfire can be annoying. The tubes are lined with sound absorbing material so that at least the muzzle noise is almost silenced outside of the range. The supersonic shock of the bullet is not reduced, but there is nothing that can be done about that besides shooting with subsonic munition, which would defy the purpose of the training. On the gun attachments: nothing to do with the detectors, those work purely via sound with any gun. Furthermore, there are basically no gun attachments to speak of. Magnifying optics are forbidden at any competition, and the only optics attachments you see are "Ringkorn" style optics with adjustable iris aperture. The other "attachment" is just a brass catcher. On the "weird looking" gun: that is the cold-era swiss army assault rifle (model 1957, SIG 510) chambered in 7.5x55 or 7.62 nato. It is a very heavy (full metal construction) rifle built for defending entrenched positions, and a sought-after competition weapon for its precision, beaten only by dedicated competition carabines. It weighs a ton and kicks like a mule but it does shoot straight. The new rifle (model 1990, SIG 550) is now chambered 5.56 nato and is both shorter and lighter (polymer stock and handguard) and overall a much more modern and versatile infantry rifle. Slightly less precise than the 57 if you hear the nostalgics, but still able to hit that 5-franc-coin sized target at 300m fairly reliably with the factory iron sights. On the "self defense" shooting: there is none of that. None whatsoever. In the mainstream at least. Guns are not a *self* defense tool. They are a *national* defense tool. The shooting reflects that, and it is basically exclusively tailored to long-range engagement from defensive positions. At home, you keep your rifle, but you don't keep bullets, and the firing mechanism is removed from the gun and (by law) kept safely in a secure place somewhere else in your house. For all purposes except service-related duties and maybe competitions, your service rifle is not there. You only buy bullets at the range, and they are expended or returned before leaving the range. For home defense, you are way more likely to keep a baseball bat than a firearm, not that you are likely to ever use it anyhow. The latter defends your fellow citizens, not your property. The key mentality difference lies here. P.s you used to keep a few bullets too for readiness purposes, but this is no longer allowed after a few high-profile murders (especially uxoricides) in the late 90s/ early 2000s. It was controversial at first, but later nobody felt a meaningful difference or cared: guns are only used at the range or in service anyway.

[@stanislemovsky5590]

As a Swiss I have to say, this isn't exactly representative of our country's overall culture. In this video, he is basically in the "gun bubble". Nowadays, only about 30% of the male population serve (the army has downsized considerably since the Cold War ended; btw., if you don't do service, you have to pay 3.5% of your salary until you turn 30). And a lot smaller percentage takes the gun home or keeps it after service ends. You're not required to take it home anymore, you can deposit it at your barracks. Ammo is not given out to take home anymore since there have been a few family murder-suicides and even a killing spree in a local parliament. Only about 130k out of 8 million people are registered at a shooting club. Most people here (including myself) have a very superficial realtionship to guns. People who still live that gun culture are usually rather far right leaning politically (not all, but a clear majority), and though our country clearly leans towards conservative politics in total, this type of reactinaries (and sometimes far right extremists, who are always drawn to instruments of violence) are a minority. In fact there have been discussions about completely abolishing the army. The movement never really had a chance (and much less now that fascism is on the rise again in the east), but it shows how our overall culture has changed a lot as compared to what he's presenting in this video. Personally, I'd be in favour of a new system consisting of a professional "hard core" of maybe 80'000 troops who are very well equipped and work closely with NATO to get more proficient. In case of a looming war, this would be supplemented by militia soldiers trained by the pros. As it is today, our army is kind of an embarassment in my opinion. The militia soldiers can't be expected to be very good, as they're only trained for 21 weeks. And they aren't. For many it's just an annoying thing they have to go through and that costs them time they could be using for economically useful things. The higher-ups, who are professionals, are often incompetent and waste scandalous amounts of money burned in ridiculous armament projects due to nepotism, which is rather strong in our small country. The problem is that smart people around here either don't want to become professional soldiers for political/ideological reasons (we don't have as many military families who do it out of tradition as the US) or because they can make a lot more money in the private sector. So the army ends up with a selection of semi-competent people. One typical example is a modern, computer-guided 120 mm mortar mounted on a lightly armored vehicle they wanted to develop. Instead of buying a proven system from the US or a European country and fitting it with modern artillery computers and the chassis, they tried to develop a completely new one domestically. RUAG, the producer, intervened with the army through back channels during the competition for the contract, and suddenly they got it. It was clearly a case of nepotism for anyone who doesn't live in denial. The project has burned tons of money unnecessarily, and after it was designated "fit for service", a lot of quality problems became public (the electronics weren't really waterproof, it couldn't fire in all directions as originally requested, meaning the vehicle has to reposition to switch between fields of fire, etc.). Now we have a small number of exceedingly expensive and unrealiable new mortar systems. And that's how a lot of our armament projects go, especially when it comes to digitalisation. Literal billions have been burned for nothing over the past 20 years trying to domestically develop communications and surveillance systems that could have been easily bought from NATO countries. Constantly, contractors who have no idea what they're doing get contracts that are way beyond what they can handle, just because they're from here and some politicians do their industrial buddies a favour. This might be an exaggeration, but in my opinion our army couldn't defend the country for a week if it came to it. Our air force can't even police the skies 24/7 in peacetime. The French have to help us out a lot ...

[@papillon6627]

Good to hear from someone with boots on the ground, so-to-speak. The US is and probably will always be a warrior culture, a hunting culture and as a result, a gun culture. Our foundation was built on blood from the fight for independence from England onward. I’ve read most of the comments here from folks in the US- and I’m fairly disturbed by the complacency of civilians. But I’m coming from a background of a very large extended family of service members who fought in every war, police action and skirmish between nations since the Spanish American wars. I never joined the military, but I grew up in a home where the previous 3 generations did, and I gotta say, civilians are weird, soft and oblivious to the actual threats in the real world to our little nation. Anyway- it was very educational to read your real-time perspective on the culture in Switzerland. Thanks 🫡

[@aaregiel]

@stanislemovsky: What do we need more: The best equipped and most trained military forces, or a sustainable peace in our country? For a never-ending peace-keeping mission it is best to engae the militia as military personel, because such soldiers do not want to have any war, and rather go back to their families and job as quickly as possible. However, these soldiers are, despite their lack of intense training and sometimes outdated weapon systems, highly motivated to fight, if absolutely unavoidable to defend their country and relatives. Personally, I think joining the Nato would be very stupid, as it guarantees unecessary losses, and spoils the blood of our sons. Why should we go to foreign countries and mess around like our friends in the wild west like to do?

[@markusfuerer5431]

Fascism in the East???

[@stanislemovsky5590]

@@aaregiel Of course we need peace, but today's world shows us again that there can be no peace without militarily strong democracies. Ukraine wanted peace without the shackles of Russia, and they got war because they seemed weak to the Russians. Joining NATO does NOT guarantee unnecessary losses at all. No NATO member can be forced to take part in wars of aggression led by your "wild west" (you mean the USA of course). The only case in which we would have a duty to fight is when a democratic member of NATO is attacked without provoking that attack. And in that case, it wouldn't be unnecessary nor needless, it would simply be the right thing to go an help fight off the invader. You're argument is based on false assumptions about what NATO is.

[@stanislemovsky5590]

@@markusfuerer5431 Aka Russia. And don't dare telling me Russia isn't fascist. I've studied fascism for half my life, and I recognise it easily when I see it.

[@NeoMarv]

Probably someone already commented it but here in Switzerland there are many shooting ranges with all kinds of weapons and attachments. You can shoot full auto or silenced. We have IDPA and IPSC training centres. So there is for sure a variety around but it is a bit more niche or hobby than the typical swiss culture.

[@canarias2639]

"Loving" you gun is a really strange concept outside USA. It is a tool, like a srewdriver.

[@Predilus]

Swiss dude here, done all the service and can confirm everything said here. The diverging point on the legislative side is very well spotted. History and foreign policy demanded that the well regulated militia turned into a professional army. The conscription was no more and what was left is the individual right to bear arms. The purpose and meaning of a weapon changed Alas, I really like how the American constitution defines this but without the duty part things seem to get out of control more often than not. But what to do about it? Not an easy question 🤔

[@PhilfreezeCH]

13:20 I think what you are forgetting a bit is that sport shooting here has the primary function of keeping our militia accustomed to their firearms, so shooting your actual gun you have at home with the actual munition you use in the military is kind of the point.

[@andysavill8580]

I saw that video the other week - no comparison between the US and Switzerland. The Swiss are very reserved and have a "mature" attitude towards Firearms, they don't pose or fool around with them, they are a tool, a tool of national defence. And like other nations in Europe, shooting is a serious discipline - no blasting away at imaginary targets like a lot of our American friends😂

[@hun2318]

This issue being self defense though, if you live in a country where self defense is up to you, then the right must be upheld. Shooting is serous and must be held to the highest standard. However Switzerland's crime is low. What about law abiding citizens in a place where they are not protected by the law? meaning crime is rampant. That then means the Right is above duty yes?

[@andersmalmgren6528]

Same here in sweden. One side affect is that i as a game developer cant reaearch terminal ballistics of different barriers because the only allowed target is paper 🤣

[@spkz0r]

@@andersmalmgren6528 So how did DICE do it?

[@andersmalmgren6528]

@@spkz0r they probably went to America :) But they dont have very accurate terminal ballistics either :) we solved it by watching hundreds and hundreds of different gun tubers shooting stuff :) most are not very scientific buy once in a while you can draw some data from it :)

[@andysavill8580]

@@hun2318 to clarify - the Swiss have Firearms for national defence, not to defend themselves from fellow countrymen. If a state is so lawless and dangerous that citizens have to arm themselves then they should be able to. But surely the state should do everything to protect its citizens?!!

[@TomHash-l7e]

325 yards shot with no scope,thats a nice shot my friend.

[@leifureirikson2099]

Thats a normal exercise in military here… shooting 300m Range and the Short Range boxes ;-) 300m, Iron Sights… normal! 👌🏻🤙🏻

[@itachiuchiha7728]

Welcome to Switzerland the Land of Marksmen

[@silvan5894]

In the army we train 300m/25m/10m With scope you should hit the same target on 600m. I shot my pistol on 100m and rifle at 400m experimentaly in exercises. I hate my gun and pistol, but i was well trained. For aiming this long distance and try to get faster with good aim we basicly have the skill to shoot any rifle. A friend of mine with the same educatio. Went to westpoint and they challenged him there. And yes he won with a rifle he was not experienced with.

[@citizendouille]

13:09 it is the old rifle of the swiss army, called here as "F ass 57" (Fusil d'assaut 1957 = assault rifle 1957). To day we are using a SIG 550, called "F ass 90" 13:54 it is a "Mousqueton 31" another old(er) rifle of the swiss army, used during the WW II.

[@Stolens87]

I think it is also a difference if you see a weapon as a "cool"... in the USA it is like a stylish car or another accessoire that makes you look cool and shooting stuff is fun. Look at the swiss guys, they have an assault rifle behind their couch because it has to be somewhere. And although it is also cool, it is also just a mandatory thing that is provided by government. And shooting at a range is not playing war like some kids do with sticks.

[@markmuller7962]

Well said

[@SH1974]

Most Swiss 300m ranges are equiped with a target system by Sius Ascor. There is no direct picture of the target, but instead there are ultrasonic sensors in the frame of the target, able to precisely locate the impact. A display besides the shooter shows where the bullet has hit. Very comfy! Many shooters use a cartrige deflector on their SIG 550's (aka "StGw90") to not disturb the shooter besides with empty, hot cartriges. Also very common for private used SIG 550's is the variable diopter rear sight. Optics are not allowed for competition shooting, but some diopters types are allowed on competition-legal guns. Many use diopters on their K-31's or 1911 (Schmidt Rubin) infantery rifles, some also have diopters on their SIG 550's or SIG 510's (aka "StGw57").

[@markmuller7962]

There's another very interesting and very funny American short documentary on the Swiss gun culture and law, you may want to check it out, the name is: "Switzerland: So Many Guns, No Mass Shootings | The Daily Show Throwback"

[@burgundycommander7589]

You mean that propaganda b s from the daily show? No thnx

[@phoenixsui]

Switzerland also has a very good social safety net to help the poor and people in need in our country. So you wont find a homeless unless they choose to be one and not seek help which is not allowed.

[@randallsanchez3161]

And there is the difference. The majority of the homeless aren't homeless because they're poor or can't find help. It's because they choose to be and are often addicted to drugs. But here in the US, not seeking help is allowed as they have personal freedom.

[@ischchenson]

late here but at 8.45 you are right the first thing is just to protect your neigbour from the hot mantle of the amunition since its a automatic gun... second one is just a iris ring so you can adjust the outher ring of your view to the light... so basically you can make the outside ring of your view more open or close

[@swisssaga4419]

in the basic training of the swiss army you regularly shoot over the distance of 300m just with iron sights. in america, everyone who completed the swiss army basic training counts as a traind designated marksman

[@thedude883]

There's a big audio glitch. A few long seconds of zero sound. Anyone else get that issue?

[@danilapolesciuk4316]

That's him muting audio due to copyright

[@Lukas-ht9xm]

I'm swiss. My grandfather on my father's side was a huge gun enthusiast. He won countless medals and trophies from competitions, I have one in my room that is this cool wooden statue of an eagle. During WW2, he worked in a rifle manufacturing facility which supplied the brits and the french. He sadly died the year before I was born. I really feel that distinction between guns being a right vs a duty. That's a powerful sentiment. Anyway, I love this video and thanks for the authentic reaction.

[@honeybear278]

Swiss Confederacy beeing peacefull in 15/16. Century Is a bit of an overstatement. Especially when it goes to beeing Mercenaries at that time. Especially the canton of Bern was very warmongery...

[@b00nish]

Holy... I'm living somewhat close to that "over the road shooting range" and have driven on that road many times. But I never knew that those maniacs are actually shooting across that road.

[@didicrow9725]

Swiss militia is, of course, much older than the American militia, just see the history. So the US learnt from Switzerland on this field. On the other hand Switzerland was inspired in 18th century by the US political system of the House of Representatives and the Senat. Switzerland has a similar two chamber system in politics, installed after US example. So both countries, USA and Switzerland, in the past, had a benefit of each other. I like your videos. Greetings to the US from Switzerland

[@nandolutz86]

i had to pause the video and look if somebody wrote this allready. Swiss is way older then the us, my town had last year in summer the 700 years anniversary.

[@Bucky1836]

Much love for the Swiss from Texas 🤠

[@papillon6627]

🫡 yeah, when we cobbled together our little document of the Constitution, we borrowed from only the best ideas. ✌🏽 from the USA!

[@itachiuchiha7728]

what are you talking for shit we got inspired by your two chamber system lmfao

[@didicrow9725]

@@itachiuchiha7728 Better you visit a historical lesson, Sherlock.

[@smolli91]

Swiss are very good at sport-shooting at Olympia. Specialy the womans. Last woman Olympia winner was also from Switzerland. I am 32 now and until last year I have to go shooting the obligatory 300m every year and during this time I kept my gun at home. But at the moment is it not allowed to have ammunation at home. And yes I can confirm, that you can talk hours about military service 😂 everyone have made his own stories. I was in a tank companie a "Führungsstaffelsoldat" supporting the Majors and General in their actitivity and built the infrastructure for mobile command center.

[@Knightrider2709]

Even Swiss people write a lot of nonsense here. In order to be able to keep your weapon after serving in the army, you need a valid weapon purchase certificate and proof that you have completed the mandatory 300 meter shooting and voluntary field shooting in Switzerland at least 4 times in the last 3 years. And these are also entered in the service book. Since you only have to fulfill the mandatory requirements once a year, volunteers, e.g. shooting in a shooting club, are essential so that you can even purchase the weapon after your regular service period. It is also not the love of firearms that is responsible for the fact that members of the Swiss Army have their personal weapon at home, but this is only required by the militia system. So there's nothing wrong with the love of weapons!

[@davedavids57]

Yes it's much much easier to privately buy a semi auto like an AR 15. When I lived in Switzerland as a foreign national with permanent residence I was able to buy as many assault rifles as I wanted. No training, no mental health checks, no storage requirements nothing. People forget that less than 30% of people who live in Switzerland are even in the militia so most people have to buy their own guns.

[@a5cent]

You aren't accounting for how things change over time. Gun laws were very different just 20 years ago.

[@patchy_yt]

In swizerland we can say if you want the gun or not. Because you have to leave it in a safe and maybe you want to get kids and dont want them to know you have a gun or something.

[@tobiasrosenberger3707]

Greetings from Switzerland - i love your Chanel! Just my 2 cents: In the basic Swiss military training, you usually go to an actual military range with cardboard or jockey targets and you learn how to operate in "combat mode". We use MG's, LMG's, Scopes, Grenades and Anti Tank Weapons like a RGW with 7.62 practice ammunition. Based on the function you have it's more or less intensive - if you are just in the buker on the radio, you dont handle a lmg or grenade. We also have many CQB Places, where we use Laser Modules on our Weapon with Dummy Rounds to practice. In the 18 Weeks of basic training, you are just shooting 2-3 times on the 300m targets in the club - the rest is on range. And it's really just irons to 300m - pretty easy with our Sig Rifle. Some get a specific training with scopeson the sig and go up to 600m with the Rifle. It is deadly accurate, reliable, great to handle and simple but much heavier compared to an AR. After your Service you have to go to the shooting clubs once a year and repeat the oblibated programm. It's a repitition of basic skills. It seems like everybody thinks, the recruits just shoot in the clubs - which is not the case. :D A normal Solider han about 300 Days of obligated service. After your 18 weeks of basic training, your Batallion has obligated repetition courses once a year for 3-4 weeks. You do that until your 300 days are over and keep your gear until you are 35 years old. Then you can give the gear back or buy it pretty cheap - the Rifle is 100 Swiss Francs.

[@davedavids57]

The thing about Switzerland is out of the population of 9 million or so 3 million aren't Swiss Citizens. So of the 6 million or so Swiss Citizens about half (mostly men) go in the militia that 3 million. So about 30% of the population get firearms training etc. But the other 6 million also have the legal rights to have guns and ammo without the need for any training, mental health checks or safe storage requirements.

[@tobiasrosenberger3707]

@@davedavids57 If you move to Switzerland, decide to integrate and become a swiss citizen, and you‘re under 25 - the army gets you!😂 You are completely right with the mental health checks and pretty low requirements to own a gun. BUT there are regulations. -Store and transport gun & ammo seperately -Store it safe enough, that nobody can reach it. A Room which is able to lock up is basicly enough -You can only shoot that gun on the range (mostly a cellar) -you are only allowed to take it directly to the range and home -If you want to buy ammo, you habe zo bring a „crime documentation“ to verify, there are no cases against you. It expires after 3 months. -Full Auto, silencers are forbidden Just a few regulations.. :) But a basic training like in austria would be great.

[@davedavids57]

@@tobiasrosenberger3707 Yes I used to live in Switzerland before I fled across the border. I never got on with the rules based culture. I now live in Austria. For Cat C guns, bolt action rifles, break action shot guns, we have no licences whatsover. It's just a background check at the shop and three day wait, similar to the USA. For semi autos and hand guns you do have to do a training which is basically 30 minutes of someone telling you not to point the gun at people and fire 5 rounds from a hand gun. Nothing on semi auto rifles whatsoever. If your under 40 you also have to have been in the military if you're an Austrian man (luckily I am not). There is a psych test as well which is expensive but pretty impossible to fail and the police come and check you still have the cat b guns every 5 years. Then you have to shoot three rounds at a gun shop to "retrain" which takes about a minute and costs 60 euro. I do love the laser on my gun, which I am sure you Swiss dream about :p

[@Shidai187]

@@davedavids57actually not true. Switzerland has new gun laws since 2019 and you need to get a special permit to own an assault rifle. In order to get the permit, I had an interview with an police officer of the weapons bureau and had to proof the safe storage of the guns. After 5 and 10 years, I have the obligation to proof my regular training and membership of an official club.

[@davedavids57]

@@Shidai187 I did move before the law change, but I just had a read through and it does look on the face of it that it's now stricter than here in Austria. Although it does say you just need to use the gun 1 once a year not that you need to be in a club. Also I can't see anything about training? Or safe storage, we have a vague law in Austria which is just keep the gun away from people who don't have a licence, you don't even need a safe here if you live alone or your partner has a license. Also is there an exemption for semi autos with lower magazine capacity? I actually occasionally bring my guns to Switzerland for competitions and the numbers of sport shooters doesn't seem to have gone down a lot. So I am guessing it's not too bad. Fingers crossed it might put I few more off and I might finally win something :p

[@abalamdepaimon6891]

The part i live in, the mandatory shooting training is always first wednesday of every month. I hear shooting in every village i drive through, sometimes feels surreal. Just keep in mind, Switzerland, especially the areas where people actually live in ( most is mountains or steep terrain) is so small, it fits like 15x into California alone, yet we have 26 Kantone/States, all with their own state laws, so it's really compact and each village is almost melting into the next one, which makes for a lot of gun ranges. Nevermind the airforce bases, with our F18's ( soon F-35's wooohoo! ) starting and landing basically in urban areas

[@Teufer2]

11:38 1."And eventually inspired the tribes in this region..." Beg your pardon? Tribes? The Old Swiss Confederation was founded in 1291. The late middle ages. There were no "tribes" anymore at this point in Switzerland since about 800 years. At that point of time Europeans organized themself in City States, Kingdom, Duchies, Principalities etc. Tribal Structures were long gone at this point. Should have better used the term "the local people/folks" 2. PS: His name is "Willhelm Tell" WILLHELM not William! And he did not disrespect the Kings local leader intentionally. He was asked to greet a hat on a pole in place of the local leader. He thought it was idiotic to greet a hat on a pole and just laughed or ignored the request depending on the story. But right then the Kings representative arrived and was angry he didn't greet the pole. He did not on purpose wanted to disrespect the Kings representative. He just thought greeting a pole was just silly. 3. It's not a "Promise" to be exact. It was an "Oath". Similiar of how you americans do an Oath when you enter Service in the US army. It's called the "Rütli Schwur" (Rütli Oath) named after the hill it was made. "Swiss Confideration" is not the literal translation of the official german name "Schweizerische Eidgenossenschaft". It literally means "Swiss Oath Fellowship". Based on the mentioned "Rütli Oath"

[@samestian2k]

Theo, if you ever visit Switzerland hit me up. I could organise a few days with different location and especially combat ranges. Again “bunkers” but with cars and other covers and obstacles to train group fire drills. But it’s definitely not as common as the 300m ranges. Btw. the most ranges have downstairs a 25-50m pistol range. For example officers and drivers which do not get issued an assault rifle will get a pistol. If you intend military videos I could potentially even organise a visit and training with military personnel.

[@jvotrachsel45]

Willhem Tell is a myth written by the German Friedrich Schiller and never really took place. The three "Stände" (estates) of Uri, Schwyz and Unterwalden did in fact make a pact to defend each other against Habsburg dominion.

[@OrangeOVL]

One big difference that was not mentioned is that people have the guns at home here, but are usually not allowed to keep ammunition at home.

[@BeatWittwer-x8p]

When I lived in Switzerland ( back in the late 1980's), servicemen took ammo. as well as their service assault rifle home with them. Not sure if that's still the case ? Most locations had a small arsenal where you could grab heavy weapons, grenades etc. within close proximity. I watched a mobilisation exercise where a local infantry company assembled and was fully armed within an hour ! Apparently the country could fully mobilise ( incl. tanks/artillery etc.) within 10 hours AND have their logistics in place.... at that time > 550,000 men !

[@Douggy80]

You are referring to the Military gun. And then yes, the Military is not giving out ammo anymore. But as a civil Person - having a permit to buy a gun I also can buy the ammo for it. As much as I like and can store it at home. The only regulation is, that you have to bring a felony register every two years.

[@davedavids57]

No Swiss people can buy as much ammo as they like they can even buy it online and have it delivered. What you can't do is take government subsidised ammo home from the range or the army.

[@firbolg]

That weird firearm is a Sturmgewehr 57, a selective fire battle rifle.

[@karlschmied6218]

As a Swiss citizen I can say that I don't know other Swiss citizens who love their gun. In my experience we don't discuss much about guns.

[@andreascaviezel9500]

i am Swiss, about shooting on international competition, about men wo do ok, not a lot of Gold medals but ok. But female shooter on inernational competitions are realy good, because so much women do shooting as a regular sport.

[@michaelhermann4213]

The electronic recording of hits on the target is carried out via 4 microphones that record the sonic boom and calculate the point of impact.

[@benrex7775]

All Swiss men who attend military get a gun and a basic training with that gun. It is pretty easy to avoid going to the military if you want to, but it comes with some drawbacks as well. The standard way that military training is 18 weeks in one go and then about 6 times 3 weeks of repetition courses. But it varies depending on the unit and also it changes over the year. In that miliatry training there is some more dynamic military practice, but outside of the repetition courses we need to go once a year to the shooting range like it is shown here. If you have a higher rank then you will get a pistol and some units also have pistols. But besides them, all people who get their gun through the military get the same gun. I assume people who have specific weapons related functions also have other types of guns, but I don't know if they can take them home. It is a very true statement that since so many Swiss men went to the military, it is a great conversation topic. Either with fellow Swiss people who went there or know somebody who went there, but also with foreigners who are not familiar with that concept. But just because basically everybody has that common conversation topic doesn't mean everybody is in that gun culture portrayed in this video. I've never seen any guns outside of the military and the one day in the year where I have to go to the shooting range. Those gun festivals are a subculture of Switzerland. It's probably a sizeable one, but also one which you can not notice all your life depending on what you do. I have watched this video already previously and I liked your reaction. I think the creator of this video got a good grasp on Swiss gun culture and he mistook the media narrative of American gun culture as the actual American gun culture. If we ignore innercity violence then America may be on par with Switzerland, which doesn't have megacities and innercity gang wars. He neglects those aspects. Also he neglects that in Switzerland, the most dangerous animals are the tick and the cow. Also the police is not hours away. More regulations of guns in America because gangs do violence in innercities doesn't really help anything as it will just make things worse, not better. In my opinion America should get writ of mega cities, not guns. Also they should stop telling young boys that they are inhearently evil and should be guilty for even existing while at the same time taking any and all male role models away from them. But that is just me. And as someone who never left Europa, my bias is obviously shaping my opinion too.

[@didicrow9725]

Min. 11:15: The picture of Wilhelm Tell, when he had to shoot the apple of his son's head, is actually not totally correct. Tell put a second arrow in his belt. After he hit the apple with the first shot, the overlord asked him: Why the second arrow? Tell's answer was: If i hit my son, i would have shot the second arrow at you. And you, i wouldn't have missed ;) Good videos. Greetings from Switzerland

[@Bucky1836]

Very cool 😎🤠

[@bonvoyage5377]

I think you drew the wrong conclusion when you said the swiss are crazy about guns like americans, theyre not, far from it. The government mandated that everyone has to learn how to shoot, in the same way that everyone has to go to school, its the law, which doesnt mean theyre crazy about guns!!, unlike americans, who are crazy about guns, and love to pick up guns, the government doesnt need to enforce it.......big big difference

[@PyroNoobs]

Nah we love guns too

[@steve00alt70]

Is that not in conflict with your human right to not do it?

[@christianmohr2980]

here as someone who wasnt Allowed to join the swiss army because of health reasons. I had to pay the 3% of my pay until the day i turn 30.

[@omnikev9308]

We didn`t dug bunkers into our mountains, we built mountains on top of our bunkers 🙃

[@TomKirkemo-l5c]

We sort of have this militia-thing in Norway too. I think we have about 5000 soldiers in the army. But we have like 40 000 locals under the armed forces...sort of. And then we have this group of hunters and sport shooters that are very local. But kind of is na part of the defence. We count 135 000 people now. So, out of a total population of about 5 mill, we have around 180 000 armed and relatively capable men and women here. And a very difficult country to navigate in if you don't know it. ;)

[@stephanelebracher]

the Swiss army was nice and if I may say so, we fired many more cartridges than the other armies in Europe

[@Chaschperli]

The method to know, where you hit the target differs from range to range. There are old ones where there are target on which you have to spot for yourself, where you have hit them and there are other methods. on some ranges, there are people in a trench before the targets and they signal with some signs, where you have hit. As I was in a shooting club, back when i was 13 or so, they had a system that worked with the sound or the bullet, when it hits the target. Must be something like triangulation of the impact. It is pretty preciese and reliable.

[@RafaelGonçalves-z1v]

those tunnels you see, are for soundproofing a bit the shooting range, and for the screen, they use a system with microphones (one in the tunnel and 3 around your target, and the position is triangulated with the sound wave) if you ever come to Switzerland, jump by a shooting range, they usually are open every saturday for shooting practice, usually people are friendly and will invite you inside for you to discover the place. if you ever come by Gruyere in Switzerland, ill be happy to show you the range where i practice :D

[@fuchsanalog]

I love how he react because im from switzerland and every switzerland video is so cool with him

[@johnharris8551]

As a Swiss/British I did my Basic Training and finish with 315 Service Days and could keep my Service Pistol and i`m very proud of it

[@j-man8236]

Really awesome commentary! Thanks

[@biganguria]

8:20 hi im a swiss dude :) these things use (3 or 4 microphones) "sound" to estimate (very precise) where the bullet has "passed by" and the computer then knows what "math" to do to know where the bullet has it. (also if ur swiss and didnt do these "shooting" lessons, ur kinda an NPC or just dont have friends)

[@papillon6627]

😂

[@thelongestday64]

Just so you know, there are also many shooting clubs (mostly indoor and some outdoors) which focus on self-defense and combat shooting and any kind of firearms, not just the military rifles (past and present).

[@erkkimuller8898]

I've ended my military service some years ago, and of course we had our gun (type57) at home, but we had to our rounds (7,5mm) at home too in a sealed tin can with 24 rounds. This tin can was checked every repetition military exercise and if unsealed to got into very big trouble. By the end of the military service, you could choose if you wanted to keep your weapon or not( not the tin can), but only if you served the whole amount of days and have participated the mandatory shooting exercises , which were held every year.

[@vampiretto89]

As a Swiss I can relate to what has been portrayed in the video. As far as I am concerned, shooting is only marksmanship. It’s just a sport. When it comes to arms’ ownership, although in Switzerland it is a right to own guns, I feel privileged that indirectly the whole society TRUSTS ME and allows me to own many. Because of that, it is my duty to repay that privilege with the maximum precaution towards everybody else.

[@markusfuerer5431]

Actually we are just used to it. And the militia military works really well. Peace from 🇨🇭

[@martinwettstein1364]

Very good documentation! greetings from Switzerland.

[@netRunner42]

Dude stop comparing any country to Switzerland, it does not work at all !

[@Morowinger]

Americans talking about a Nation and their People they wouldn’t find on a Map.

[@StefanAchermann-ox7pe]

At the shooting range, the hits are measured with three acoustic microphones behind the target, which allow for precise positioning. What distances are standard training distances for the US military?

[@mimimimimimi7403]

Does you Guys in america know the SIG 550? Thats the Swiss Army rifle, Made in Switzerland. I would say its much more acurate than M16, but it needs a lot of carring and cleaning. But i belive every soldier who is worth that word will clean his rifle as soon he gets the time to do so, after he used it or it gets dirty

[@MrsLittletree]

13:39 that is a 300m range. You have your monitor to actually see, where you hit. Not to aim through. You aim and shoot completely normal and then after the shot, you check.

[@scpmtf164]

I loove guns, i love not getting shot and i love Switzerland and our gun culture, it works and it's great

[@googleuser7855]

There is a cool shooting range in the middle of the Swiss moutains. It is actually inside a large mountain and offers ranges of up to 350 yards, some restaurants etc.

[@danielulrich7676]

Every Swiss conscript has his weapon at home and handles it responsible. Not everyone can go to a shop and buy a gun. Maybe that‘s why there are no school massacres in Switzerland. The two countries are impossible to compare!

[@MrThecyrille34]

the targets sytem works with radar sensor that sense the bullet being firered and at the target it has 2 other radars thatr calculate the position of the bullet. guns that are not swiss made can be aquiered but it takes time and effort. there is 3 categories of guns you can get,. there is the guns that are under a declaration of owsner ship. these are bolt action guns bouble barrels shotgun. basically you fill a paper in 3 copies one for the person who sells the gun one for the new owner and one you send back to the police. secon category you have to get a permit though the gun control office at the police. these are guns that are ordinance guns from other countries (even if they are bolt actions), guns that are only semi automatic, pump action shotguns, any hand guns even revolvers. third category is guns that you have to get an exeptional permit for. these are fully automatic guns, assault rifle with a magazine over 10 ammos (even if they are in semi auto only) guns that shoot explosives. to get those permits you hav to have no criminal records. and they do a little reaserch about you to know if you are violent or have suicidal tendencies. for me they phoned my mother my father and even my boss. and the guns office of the canton can visit you to see where and how you store your guns.

[@Ganiscol]

Recreative shooting in Switzerland is first and foremost about precision shooting. As it was mentioned in the video, you cant just go to the woods a ventilate items like guntubers do, thats illegal. As it should be because there are hardly any remote enough places where you can guarantee that you wont endanger somebody enjoying nature one way or another. There are places where you can let your inner Rambo out, like abandoned quarries that have a permission from local authorities, but they're far and few in between. But what really sets Switzerland and the US apart is the society, its structure and attitude to many things, not least in terms of gun use. Gun violence like it happens in the US isnt a thing in Switzerland. The Swiss generally dont own guns because they are afraid of others having guns, thinking they need one to defend themselves against whomever. Self defense by means of guns isnt anywhere near the top of the priority list when it comes to gun ownership. It can be an aspect, but doesnt have to be and likely isnt for most people. When I bought my first firearm 28 years ago, self defense wasnt even an afterthought and still is not today.

[@Timbothruster-fh3cw]

The difference is, we don't trust in our government like the Swiss do.

[@randallsanchez3161]

Note: the US is GIGANTIC compared to Switzerland. Those places they shoot at are generally private property and fairly large as well. You can't just walk out into a public forest and shoot up the place. Even here that's illegal. Also, it's not necessarily about having a gun because another has a gun. Imagine a group of kids deciding they're going to beat you until you have permanent physical damage or later die from your injuries. That's more common than many realize and with the racism against whites so prevalently taught in schools, many feel entitled to assault people. I carry a gun in case I need it. And I may need it in a number of different scenarios which may include being attacked with a gun, knife, bat, or even by a bear. It's just a tool and nothing more.

[@agentm83]

I think militias used to be a lot more common. I know in our Colonial era days the Canadian colonies had militias that could be called up...in addition to British Regulars.

[@liamlanguetin2598]

For the targets: Very low maintenance: the system is all electronic, at my range we change the “cloth” every 5 years, maybe more. Also, for the iron sights on the fass 90 (sig 550): we have 4 modes: 1 is night combat shooting (rear sight on “1”, front sight has a little attachment that you switch up), 2 is for combat shooting (rear on “2”, evective to like 200m), 3 is what we use in ranges, evective at a bit more than 300m (switch on “3”) and 3-4 is for long distance combat shooting effective up to a bit more than 400m (turn on “3-4”). There are no magnifiions factors, just the size of the hole changes. In the military, we can also add a sight on the rifle, but I prefer using just the iron during combat shooting.

[@markusfuerer5431]

Sounds a little strange, but I was a happy M109 commander 😀 And you met a lot of people you still have contact with.

[@Scharrer23]

i think the original video is misleading and the narative is told from a pro gun perspective. Not all man serve in the army (militia) anymore, its only like 35 % or something. And even from that group not all are all that intrested in shooting clubs and that kind of stuff. Many only do the minimum required hours on the gun and dont look at it again until next year. And by far not all store the gun at home, many have it stored in a military barrak or bank.

[@steve00alt70]

Thats really sad its such a waste of personal development

[@Scharrer23]

@@steve00alt70 What you mean?

[@steve00alt70]

@@Scharrer23 I ment that you said only 35% practice with their guns thats a waste of potential when everybody can be a great marksman with their rifle if they took the time everyday.

[@Scharrer23]

@@steve00alt70 not agreeing with you there, but i get your comment now.

[@chantalegli8130]

The sad rhing about having so many guns and easy access, is that most suicides in Switzerland are by firearms. Granted if someone seeks to end their life, they will find a way, but still, it does for some gruesome scenes