US Or China: Will Southeast Asia Have To Pick A Side? | When Titans Clash | Ep 4/4 | CNA Documentary

Amid brewing tensions between the world's two superpowers, Southeast Asia continues to leverage on China's economic engine, while enjoying a security blanket provided by the US. As both sides continue to compete for influence over the region, ASEAN states find themselves entangled in the throes of their conflict. From increasing militarisation in the South China Sea, and the deteriorating of decades-old alliances, to a massive manufacturing diaspora in the region, we examine the quandary the Sino-US rivalry has created for Southeast Asia.
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[@jakelaw9768]

I have watched all 4 parts of the relationship between the US and China, I just want to thank CNA Insights for producing this great documentary, it's not only insightful but the content also has balanced views which are really difficult to find in today.

[@Xman-hg1vj]

@Lone Blade Vietnam on February 17, 1979

[@picandvideo]

@@Xman-hg1vj - why didn’t China invade Laos which is a much easier target? So China got defeated by Vietnamese! 🙄

[@Xman-hg1vj]

@@picandvideo China has a gripe with Vietnam during that time. I am not sure, but I don't think the dispute was about real estate.

[@picandvideo]

@@Xman-hg1vj - here is a short version. After USA pulled out of Vietnam (South East Asia) the old historical baggage between Cambodia (the Khmer Empire) and Vietnam flared up again. The Khmer wanted to reclaim the southern part of Vietnam ( or An Lac pre-colonial time whose written language was based on Chinese Hans). Thus skirmishes were broke out along the border between the countries in the south. On one swift move Vietnam captured Phnom Penh the capital of Cambodia. Neighboring countries were in shock and they were absolutely don’t want Vietnamese regime spreading in the region. They blamed China for the dominos effect. Well, China requested Vietnam to pull out. Vietnam turned around gave China a finger. Then the war started. You figure out the results.

[@itsourtubenow9729]

I'm Filipino, and I don't trust both sides. It's time that ASEAN should be more independent! We don't want to pick a side, we just want peace!

[@citizenx7585]

Sad thing is even if you dont pick sides we are both relying economically into these two Countries.

[@chengyangooi4694]

@@citizenx7585 actually is because our economy heavily dependent on these two country, that is the reason we not choose side. If our economy only totally depend on one of the country, then definitely we will choose side of something happened. If our economy totally independent of both of these country, there will be no such “ choose side” question been discussed as our existence doesn’t influence them in anyway. They not bother to ask us to support them.

[@jerou]

Fool. Even ASEAN can’t unite. Cambodia and Sri Lanka are crtiticized by Singapore as just an arm of China. ASEAN can’t even unite to form rules that will guide behavior in South China Sea. We all want peace but we are not naive.

[@mugiwaramugiwarano1135]

@@jerou true.

[@Zvroth]

Actually it's the u.s who's making you choose a side. (Look at Huawei issue). Before the U.S moved their focus onto China, you didn't have to choose a side, you could do whatever you want.

[@chengyangooi4694]

Most of the Southeast Asia just want to have peace. We don’t choose side.

[@Dv8er73]

Thats correct, for those who likes to play the "Zero-Sum-Game" you've been thinking like the "West" to much. Asian way has always been for "Peace Sake" , hence the West often assume it is being subservient to them.

[@blackhatson13]

@@Dv8er73 by your mentality, you are already choosing side

[@Dv8er73]

@@blackhatson13 Yeah we are choosing the SIDE OF ASEAN (SOUTH EAST ASIAN) ... not the US nor CHINA...And what if we are more PRO-ASIAN ? We are after all part of ASIA. The WEST didn't do much to our people anyway, in fact right now, you in the West seems to need more of us...

[@Dv8er73]

@@GrandTerr Read some unbiased History Books...or is READING & COMPREHENSION a challenge now as well in the WEST? China and India were the 2 largest economies before the Industrial Revolution, economics is pretty much directly tied up with the number of a population (working to be exact)....the onset of the Age of Industrialization in the 1900s has tipped the balance towards the WEST and its propensity to WAR and has greatly benefitted from it. Now that these two countries are "surely" getting Industrialized and churning out highly educated citizens and hard working, so what do you think will happen?

[@blackhatson13]

@@Dv8er73 this is not the side of asean, you just make a smokescreen just to convey that you would like to choose china

[@354javier3]

I hope that ASEAN nations will not have the need to pick a side but rather be their own powerhouse. We win as one my fellow SEA people.

[@clintonramos2393]

United South East Asia

[@maharlika9809]

Let ASEAN nations sign neutrality act

[@lil_jong-un6668]

ASEAN let's fkinnn gooooo 💪

[@bennetttan8535]

Lel ASEAN nation hates each other each trying to be bestest goodest lapdog of us lmfao

[@deadman9323]

@@bennetttan8535 yes we hate each other but we will win in us vs china war Hehe

[@lordsiomai]

_"We don't want to be forced to have to choose, because there is no winner"_ wise words sir

[@lemon2524]

Yes.

[@hill6045]

well they want their cake and eat it too. Keep the USA in case China tries to take over and use them for military power, while being friendly with China.

[@changliu2239]

The wisdom of that man bro

[@InfamousWarriorFC]

China doesn't stand a chance against Philipines and Indonesia they got the most trained army

[@lemon2524]

@@InfamousWarriorFC War doesn't benefit anyone.

[@dxelson]

"Americans have always been there for the Philippines" Lmao, you mean taking over your territory from Spain because of the spanish american war?

[@khust2993]

Unfortunately many Filipinos still fall for their sweet words more than a hundred years later. Ika nga, parang mga birheng naniniwala sa mga salita ng isang puta.

[@Jose-xh5qb]

@@khust2993 Mas malaking puta ang Tsina. Ang mga Komunista dapat pinapatay, hind kinakaibigan.

[@oceanwave4502]

It's called "soft-power". Despite all suffering caused by America, for example, waging wars around the world, many are obsessed with America. I think Hollywood movies and the likes greatly contribute to this soft-power. Can't imagine the US caused wars in Iraq, Afghan; brutally killed Iran general; sanctioned ICC, and STILL got away with it, like nothing... Many must watch Hollywood too much...

[@nexu6517]

So you think China would treat you better? Talk about delusional. China rammed into Filipino fishing vessels, occupied islands that belonged to the Philippines and lobbying Filipino politicians to sympathize with China. If you're a Filipino, you're obviously not getting the repetition of history.

[@keosad8196]

@@johayrmacatanong6231 China has more mosque than US. Tibet has been part of China for centuries. Panchen Lama wanted to be China as its ruler. Check this vid if China is really anti-religion. Hoping you'll get out from brainwashing of Western media. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKSwnp15h8iAhrs

[@andri7589]

US China Trade War ASEAN : Yes, you two keep fighting and bring us more money.

[@andri7589]

@中国中国, 我爱您!!! Companies that suffering from this Trade War shifting the manufacturing activities to the South East Asia to avoid tarrifs and other bad regulation for the Companies, ASEAN Countries also have cheap labour after China and its infrastructure are also pretty decent. This will also attract Investors. Especially in this Pandemic, country that has good record fighting the Corona like Vietnam providing more promising benefit for the Investors.

[@andri7589]

@中国中国, 我爱您!!! Well still its doesn't change, like I said, country like Vietnam still providing good promises, even if the company try to get labour from their country we still can make them pay through taxes etc.

[@namfingerstyle8403]

@@andri7589 haha then USA investigate VN 😅. Thats why never choose US or China. They are both bad guys

[@juliuscaesarpratama]

@@hitmanekoyslnp8572 are you got slapped? 😂😂😂 Please read more books 😂😂😂

[@trega865]

@@andri7589 its all good till you know asean is just choosen as the next fight ring

[@christiandominiclangreo5101]

As a Filipino, we just want to be respected as an Independent country. Duterte constantly stressed how America still treats us like we're still under their colony. There's no question that we need help, we just want it without the conditions attached to it, just like how you interfere with our policy and law that defeats the purpose of us being an independent country.

[@renzeusoya5828]

The only way we're going to be respected is if we have a strong military and nuclear weapons.

[@jirou6228]

Through out history USA has never respect a country politics or a country rights to rule... USA illegal crossing border and bombing a lot of country so...

[@suskagusip1036]

Who's dumb as. wants to benefit and you give nothing in return???

[@christiandominiclangreo5101]

@@suskagusip1036 that's why I would prefer ww3 and wipe whole humanity from this earth. we don't get along and that's why we need to end this for the sake of our own misery.

[@suskagusip1036]

@@christiandominiclangreo5101 Mgpasagasa ka don sa gitna ng daan your useless in this world. You don't need WW III.

[@stackoockats5334]

As a southeast Asian: definitely not China, but at the same time, definitely not US.

[@MAVAelitewolf-guys]

No

[@MAVAelitewolf-guys]

No you

[@huas5350]

You obviously don't represent Southeast Asians.

[@katsu_papi]

if i have to choose the lesser evil...i'd choose the US. you should NEVER trust a communist, authoritative state that does not answer to it's citizens.

[@stackoockats5334]

@@huas5350 true, but most people I met who are southeast asian have a similar opinion: stay neutral

[@tuthy9587]

Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia have a steady growing economy for the past years. Keep your rivalry amongst yourselves and leavr SEAN alone.

[@geneticop683]

Yes and that growth in economy is because of china. Historically, whenever china is prosperous, so is southeast asia. So if asean should pick a side, it should be their fellow asian china. Asians should be united, learn from your history about what westerners did to your ancestors land.

[@wafiseifsungkar2112]

@@geneticop683 hell no

[@lukei6255]

and who do you think provided this environment for steady economic growth???

[@lukei6255]

@@ahmadfordham4630 because China wants war and bullies the neighbouring countries.

[@tuthy9587]

@@ahmadfordham4630 this is about economy and "trade" war between USA and China. If you are talking about actual War then if course your said countries will side with USA, since they all have Defense Pact/Mutual defense treaty.🙄

[@wennw2711]

Global politics is never about picking a side. It’s about how to get the best terms. Your friend today can be your competitor even enemy tmr.

[@rezavandijkstra4577]

Getting the best terms.. is choosing side. And it's not consistent.

[@namfingerstyle8403]

@@rezavandijkstra4577 keep good distance between them

[@This_tub]

Dummy do you even know what you are talking about?

[@AZ-gq6cl]

Since you pick no side, then the US will leave the area. A couple months later China invades the area, and the US is not willing to help because you guys have rejected them. What would you do, dude?

[@hendriksurya8661]

@@AZ-gq6cl are you sure ? so if us left the area and china take control southeast asia, US can't stand againts china anymore

[@dogctor]

Sending love and support from the Philippines to Vietnam and all ASEAN Countries!!! I honestly love Vietnamese people, I find a lot of similarities with Vietnamese people.

[@beautifulmk5081]

🙏

[@PhuongDuong-tt5gf]

Philippines please don't surrender to China like the rest of ASEAN has (except VN).

[@tan9718]

@@PhuongDuong-tt5gf Don't worry we will not. In southeast asia only Philippines, Singapore and Vietnam are not in favor of China.

[@floatingdeadfish4080]

Love you homie

[@XiethXander]

@@tan9718 scratch that our Singapore Prime Minister supports China. Even though we as citizens really wana turn back time and shut his trap. He siding with a terrorist supporter will get us in trouble.

[@mouse8669]

The last time we choose side in cold war, there's a massive killing

[@axell1730]

@@jellyfishi_ if the two superpower clash, it's certain that the south east asian citizen will pay the consequences

[@harukrentz435]

@@axell1730 true. F them! Let them go at each other.

[@axell1730]

@@harukrentz435 yeah the worst case scenario is our region is going to be turned into middle east 2.0 with their proxy wars

[@jirou6228]

Yeah... Picking a side is not wise... a big politics mess... Money and independent is what important for a South East Asia country

[@hardyannaufalfarras8509]

what could be worse than having to choose between two evils

[@dmage1909]

I'm Indonesian and I don't like both sides. I agree to those who said that SEA should unite, especially the Southeast Asia Archipelago.

[@liechinmannorman5140]

You don't have to like either one. Just close your door to them.

[@l-b01josefandres44]

@@liechinmannorman5140 you clearly don't know anything about geopolitics

[@lancetheking7524]

Uniting would collapse the entire sub continent, or do you mean uniting in a sense where they help each other fully

[@l-b01josefandres44]

@@lancetheking7524 like the EU basically

[@lancetheking7524]

@@l-b01josefandres44 ah

[@zijunli9261]

46:34 "Geopolitics will change. Leaders will change. But business never changes." Well said, Uncle Tan

[@MJ-uk6lu]

He's wise.

[@ms.yawhaw8831]

Ya

[@samthomson6087]

Lol my jaw dropped when that man spit such wisdom at me

[@moogiemoogs]

This is a great docuseries. I binge-watched all four episodes. Thanks to CNA Insider for creating this. And it's true - we in the ASEAN just want peace and stability. With the emergence of the middle class in ASEAN, what we need are opportunities and good problems - not conflict.

[@hill6045]

I am confident you will have peace.

[@simony276]

Pompeo look like a mafia gangster whenever he speaks 🤣😂 I feel really happy to see him off now.

[@JohnDoe-mk9nf]

I liked him at least he gets to the point

[@JohnDoe-mk9nf]

@XXO MONTU and wtf does that even mean

[@jakelaw9768]

I have watched all 4 parts of the relationship between the US and China, I just want to thank CNA Insights for producing this great documentary, it's not only insightful but the content also has balanced views which are really difficult to find in today.

[@WetBoy]

Idk man you sound kinda gay

[@toknnomad1424]

@@WetBoy Have you actually read your user ID?? Talking about in the closet!

[@WetBoy]

@@toknnomad1424 sorry to no doubt disappoint you, but I have bedded many woman, all of which I engaged in unprotected sex with.

[@toknnomad1424]

@@WetBoy I believe Elton John said the same thing back in the 70's....

[@alantan9863]

Agree. White House and Zhongnanhai should watch this.

[@iamvhanz6918]

Please leave SEA Alone.. We're already a toxic in the online Gaming industry. Don't make it more toxic for us...

[@taufanimampratama4454]

hahahha bruh

[@lunchbreak8416]

*Bren lang malakas!!!*

[@ijustlearnhowtochange]

LMAO true 😂 ASEAN has long and mass scale war in game already. We go war like Spartan in game, no skip war, 100% attendance ok? It's hella lit. So, we can't leave the war in our game already. We can't handle losing our limb or else we 😔. Losing our guild/team pride in trashtalk & war has already been devastating for us! 😠 MAKE LOVE IN REAL LIFE. IF YOU WANT TO GO WAR, JOIN US IN THE GAME WORLD, HERE'S YOUR PICK: MOBA FPS MMORPG IT'S THE MOST TOXIC COMMUNITY FOR ASEAN GAMER WHERE YOU CAN UNLEASHED YOUR INNER ANGER & HATE (because of losing obviously). JOIN US, NOW!

[@Ryan-kq3vg]

Lee myanmar wwkwkwk

[@sawashakiletomania8955]

Lmao. War games.

[@grayscale888]

If US want Filipino side, they must also invest and not only use us without us gaining anything

[@jagdpanther2224]

What does the Americans want besides Philipine women and LBGT partners?

[@yurigansmith]

There's no reason to put any effort into something, when the support is guaranteed anyway.

[@TitoTimTravels]

When the US bases moved, the US had no more real interest in the Philippines. The US has moved on. The US is just against China... The US will help the PIs stand up to China, but there is really nothing the PIs can offer the US.

[@ken01209]

US has been there for decades and what they left other than drugs and poverty?

[@waun100]

US invest military bases in SEA and EA. Prepare to fight.

[@tetwoodgroup2201]

This is the most balanced resent documentary I watched great job guys

[@KevinTroy777]

Balanced??? Lol

[@zrcst]

Why should a 600 Million strong region choose? American and Chinese societies experience comfortable lives without poverty. Why should we be the war zone just to feed someone’s ego?

[@nathanielking8310]

There's poverty everywhere my friend, definitely enough to go around here in America..

[@liuliang227]

China experienced a hard time and we survived

[@liuliang227]

@미국간첩추방추진위원회TV You are so nice. It's okay and I totally understand that.

[@liuliang227]

@미국간첩추방추진위원회TV At least they helped you develop your economy. We normal people can't change the national relations but only live our best lives.

[@sc3610]

@Daniel stevens I agree

[@TyphoonSignalnumber5]

SEA should be "Friends to All, Enemy to None"

[@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263]

Sadly, those superpowers don't think the same. They want assert their dominance and want to take our rights away

[@frostguard9758]

@@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263 because the profits is too good to be left alone.

[@coronavirusisacommunistchi845]

We Filipinos choose America. We will war for America!

[@TyphoonSignalnumber5]

@@coronavirusisacommunistchi845 wag kn mag english parang awa mo na

[@tobz1693]

@@coronavirusisacommunistchi845 dumbass

[@NoName-rq9we]

ASEAN must choose ASEAN. PERIOD. WE CAN BEAT THOSE POWERS TOGETHER.

[@franciscarllingan1732]

In my uneducated opinion, I strongly believe that ASEAN should be its own power. We need to stand as one and grow as one. War is always inevitable regardless of who we fight, but standing as one and helping each other in terms of economics and warfare, we can definitely be a super power

[@rapidboots3615]

don't get confused now, SEA countries are already one. Things that u see on the internet or media are just obstacles

[@franciscarllingan1732]

@@rapidboots3615 what I mean is one currency, one passport, one central government a Prime minister and president residing in each territorries... Military would have joint drills and trainings, shared arms manufacture and intelligence...

[@zealord9399]

@@franciscarllingan1732 It can leads to dictatorship and it can also lead to a civil war.Better focus on becoming more modernized and developed before uniting

[@instantinople3796]

@@franciscarllingan1732 SEA is diverse. There are many cultures here, which means that it's not possible to unite under a central government. It could even end up like Yugoslavia.

[@WhiteASS2008]

“My American brothers & sisters”, except I dont know who my father was... Clearly someone fell into the eternal love affair...

[@ninu5719]

Lmao

[@p.p.2904]

@@hkloss11 so nasty colonialists

[@littlelee9391]

With China being aggressive, american definitely became brother and sister.

[@Amidat]

@@littlelee9391 oh please - it's called Americans using "little brown brothers" to shovel dirt

[@caryw2053]

This is such a underrated comment. LMAO...

[@cinpeace353]

All Southeast Asia countries want a stable environment to recover and grow. RCEP agreement shows that's the direction of what they want. Side with a country that favorite wars and an intention of interfere the possible stability in the region would be an unwise move.

[@jyay4397]

RCEP is adventage for China Japan and S.Korea since they have the large brand like Samsung Toyota

[@gautamnandi2012]

@@jyay4397 Yeah china is crap and predatory

[@striker3555]

@@gautamnandi2012 it’s USA, not China. Get your facts right.

[@thomasdong3882]

China want to work with other country unlike America want to Colonized other country

[@cannotwait2230]

@@thomasdong3882 Yeah...China work with other countries by damaging fisherman's property, disturbing our economic activities and claim ASEAN's sea as theirs.

[@ariesone25]

This CNA docu series on when Titans Clash is very informative. Continue the scholarly reporting work, many must watch and learn and develop keen interest on the issues at hand.

[@roxas24dmc6j8]

Great documentary CNA about the PH colonization. I'm a filipino and I see this a lot on other filipinos as well. You guys should do more like this. Keep up the good job looking at sensitive issues that are kept under the rug.

[@nmew6926]

When US pivot from Middle East to Asia Pacific, there is less wars in middle east but more tensions in South China Sea. Trump even said: During his presidency, there was no new wars ( in middle east)

[@leiyue1411]

Very rare scene for a presidency. No war for over 4 years!

[@christophermbolinanipower1667]

@@leiyue1411 then You refer to no New wars he started. He continued the wars Bush and Obama started and continued to bomb these countries killing people in the process. But i agree that he didn’t invade a New country and started New wars

[@reydabs]

theres nothing to choose right now,with mr.biden, america is just a follower of china, what china wants,china gets

[@juliuscaesarpratama]

And as you can see he wants start a new wars' on south Asia.

[@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263]

Julius Caesar Pratama nah if he wants war he would have started on Iran. Trump is anti war. Is a great news for Asia

[@burung81]

Stockhom syndrome. Get colonized and freed. But missed the colonial..

[@adlerzwei]

You do realise China was the dominant power in the region for millennia right? Do people had issues with China long before the US even existed. 😐

[@MrLangam]

@@adlerzwei 0 issues to be honest. China was actually the guardian at the time and was really against aggressors too.

[@farhanayub267]

Only for Philippine and Singapore. Other SEA country hate both China and the west so much. But we still play both side. Because good bussines.

[@gemmywhi3711]

@@adlerzwei Malaysia have zero issues with China in the past. Heck actually we have political relationship since the Malacca Sultanate. It's just the recent government that makes us wonder if we wanted to collaborate with them again or not..

[@vcar7960]

@@adlerzwei better use "CCP", not "china"

[@stratixfinance]

Great, absolutely amazing. Thank you for this!! CNA Insider great reporting and informational update. Thank you kindly.

[@nananininununonoify]

I am commenting again because last time I watched this one without realizing this is a 4 episode series. Thank you, once again, for such throughout coverage, with so many neutral numbers and stats shown and efforts in asking people from such varied background about their opinions. The fact that Xi Jinping has visited USA long time ago and they build a sino-USA house in the town he visited is new for me! Thank you, CNA!

[@yeohongeng528]

🎉

[@e.sstudios1015]

It's just like the ol' coldwar without the hammer and sickle on the red's flag.

[@user-hh2oj5di6d]

Idiot regardless new time!

[@jovimathews]

It’s still the same democracy vs communism

[@user-el6mb2qk3q]

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[@Huy-G-Le]

That Chinese person said, and google translate quote: America or China? Southeast Asian countries will have the following consequences if they choose their side stations: 1) Choose the United States 🇺🇸: Unconditionally let the United States obey the instructions of the U.S. government, allow the U.S. to intervene in the legitimacy of the politics and leadership of each country, lose Southeast Asian cultural values, and accept the following degenerate styles and lifestyles in the American culture, Selfishness, self, arrogance, irresponsibility, and worship of white supremacy values, take over the rule of American hegemony, share national sovereignty and governance with the United States, and let the United States control the financial, national defense, development, construction, culture, and Educational autonomy! Become a semi-colony of the United States! 1) Choose China🇨🇳: With 100% complete autonomy, people of all countries independently decide to choose the appropriate political system and lifestyle, and the value of traditional culture and religious beliefs can be continued and retained! Do not engage in ideology, and make every effort to develop the country's economic construction and education, so that the people can get rid of poverty and backwardness as soon as possible, and then live a good life!

[@Huy-G-Le]

@@wilmerbesitan1200 What? NO, how did you come to that conclusion, it is just google translate from Chinese to English. And that person lied, or rather been brainwash by their Government, I don't think the Uyghur are dead, most of them are in concentration camps around China.

[@sko1beer]

I’ve been told for years the angel city is the capital of under aged sex in the Philippines and now this documentary has explained to me why United States airbase is located there

[@s._3560]

Many illegitimate children known as Amerasian were unwanted by their foreign fathers and abandoned.

[@morales9461]

Tang ina. I don’t want to judge because I don’t want to be superficial. Sometimes it is safer to hide an opinion, because they are superficial

[@osamabinladen824]

@Michael Desmond No

[@dongshengdi773]

The truth is , Filipino women love white men. Deal with it .

[@ycl9234]

LOL. You are on point.

[@nananininununonoify]

Thank you for the good and neutral coverage!

[@productguru8323]

ASEAN is the largest trading partner to China, not US. That says a lot.

[@_Wai_Wai_]

During the Vietnam War, the USA Carpet bombed the Viet-CAmbodian Border with a total tonnage of bombs that exceeded all the bombs dropped during WW2. The USA poisoned the Vietnamese Land using Agent Orange, which to this day is causing cancers and Horrible Birth Defects on the Viet people. The USA burned people alive using Napalm. 4 Million Cambodians and Viets died during that War. This is a statistic that Americans rarely even mention.

[@nasaihyana]

Who is the end buyers of those goods? If the US stops purchasing so would the trade....

[@Cosmo1093]

@@_Wai_Wai_ And more recently than that, China invaded and stole land from Vietnam. China is even threatening to take more territory in the South China Sea. In spite of all the atrocities committed in the Vietnam War, Vietnam is now one of the most pro-US and anti-China countries in the world.

[@_Wai_Wai_]

@@Cosmo1093 because the American propaganda machine is insidious and pervasive.

[@AniMaTheEarth]

@@_Wai_Wai_ whose "propaganda " yours or mine?

[@user-qi3lv5og4v]

Forget the trade war between China and US , Nepal is caught up in war between China and India being literally in the middle of it lol

[@kamikaze8733]

MCC ? Does it ring a bell ?

[@shellshockedgerman3947]

Same with Bhutan.

[@user-qi3lv5og4v]

@Rakshita Singh Lmao bullshit , I am from Nepal. It's India who has been illegally occupying Nepal's Kalapani since decades

[@user-ce1bn9xr4u]

@Rakshita Singh 印度一直在窃取邻居的土地

[@geroindonesiaku]

Most of The Southeast Asian people want and support Peace ... So Please all Country in The World Peace, stop war and together for help each other ... Love from Indonesia ...

[@budisoemantri2303]

Kalau negara kita cinta dan mau perdamaian kita harus siap untuk memghadapi konflik di masa depan secara ekonomi dan kekuatan militer, sama halnya seperti Swedia dan Swiss di PD2

[@user-ge5oq6wt5g]

Do you want us to forget the massacre of ethnic Chinese in Indonesia? Is this peace-loving? It's just that now that China is strong, you dare not do it anymore.

[@10klikeanonimbalikwxc14]

@@user-ge5oq6wt5g we still do, look up chinese leader Ahok prosecution the truth is we dont care. we indonesian will prosecute chinese anytime we want

[@slaire7799]

@@user-ge5oq6wt5g i don't care because you talk like with a holier-than-thou attitude when your government still have a concentration camp and persecute anyone that criticizes the CCP. So easily butthurt.

[@user-ge5oq6wt5g]

@@10klikeanonimbalikwxc14 You are proud of a murderer's country. This is the Indonesian

[@manchumuq]

Great series of documentary, truly unbiased and incredibly detailed from every perspective.

[@trankt54155]

The Philippines cannot make up its mind: it wants a girlfriend and a mistress....

[@mbbb1]

Same with the rest of Asia

[@mbbb1]

@@ericapu6164 says the Chinese

[@mbbb1]

@@ericapu6164 When you justified the intruding of China in the Philippines' Exclusive Economic Zone cause you're a Chinese and you'll be the one who'll be greatly benefited with this shamelessness. We'd rather be siding the lesser evil than choosing the shameless red country.

[@Ymats-dj1nt]

Y not if we can have both but ASEAN in general. Along with Russia for them to boost Asean economy and stay neutral in case of war.

[@TitoTimTravels]

The PIs is trying to play the US against China, but are not politically important enough to survive it. They are going to have to pick a side. That is just the way the world works...

[@heeroyuynewtype]

I watched all episodes in a row, a very well-produced documentary from CNA. Kudos to you!

[@vivelequebec2378]

Yes

[@laraib827]

Me too. Watched all last night. Great documentaries..

[@SpikeyOfficial]

I have to say this has been a really well made series.

[@OhFookinELL]

Brilliant series. Watched all 4 in one night!

[@blackiemwe1481]

Same here.

[@theannyoonwee8550]

Thank you CNA

[@lucaslu5125]

Kind funny how the Vietnam fisher said: “they kept throwing stones at us for about one hour”, who the hell will carry that amount of stones in their ship?

[@garfield2742]

they took wrong lies script, that one supposed for indian.

[@maggielau525]

@@garfield2742 😅😂🤣

[@caiyuhui]

They r sucking US.

[@averon7008]

😂😂

[@allukazoldyck2817]

hahahahahhaha

[@picandvideo]

Why USA keeps saying international laws which created by Anglo empire?

[@oceanwave4502]

One lesson from this pandemic: if blindly following western model, we can unintentionally end up like the west: USA with 420k death and 200k new daily cases; western europe's suffering from Covid, e.g. UK with 100k deaths. Beside many, one serious weakness of western model is to enable uncontrolled medias, which leads to social division, as well as polarize/politicized everything.

[@coatbee9244]

@@oceanwave4502 Thats why China released Wuhan virus to the world, in an attempt to destroy western societies

[@Bexxxyable]

@@coatbee9244 you mean US virus created in Fort Detrick, Maryland USA, right? The virus was brought to Wuhan by the US military officers. A latest peer-reviewed article in the US proved that the antibodies in blood donations in various states of the US showed a positive test for coronavirus as early as 13th December 2019. The first case in China was identified to be 1st December. The usual time for viruses to be seen in antibodies is about 2 weeks which highly suggests that coronavirus was already widely spreading into millions in majority of the US states before the first case identified in Wuhan. Coincidentally, Fort Detrick was closed right around the time of vaping related pneumonia like clusters in and around Maryland USA and Trump banned any investigations. And USA backed out of WHO to stop them from investigating and to wipe clean all evidences.

[@bobotmeister]

@@Bexxxyable 😂 wow... what a conspiracy theory.

[@PLA69]

@@Bexxxyable You obviously don't know how to interpret results from a peer-reviewed article.... Regarding Fort Detrick conspiracy it was never confirmed that the US delegates who went to Military World Games near Wuhan were infected. Second, a chinese official simply made accusations without proper evidence. He based his accusations on a testimony that some of the flu deaths might have been covid-19 deaths but without mentioning specific cases or dates - so no conclusion can be made. You have a lot more to learn about science.

[@nenitasandoval2430]

Tama ang desisyon ninyo Protect our country!!!

[@melchormodales5828]

Thanks, I learned here that peace and stability makes economy grow!

[@beththreat5098]

Enemy to none, friends to everyone. - Philippines Foreign Policy

[@09kenxgamer31]

But sad it's not true. China will palo duterte sa pwet if he do that hahahaha. The hypocrisy of this policy is that duterte is not following it instead he is pro china and anti US. What a joke policy we have.

[@beththreat5098]

@@09kenxgamer31 you know what I am sad about? That you are showing ignorance from geopolitics!

[@09kenxgamer31]

@@beththreat5098 But still you can't ignore the fact that licking the ass of china's president isn't effective.

[@gunngin3586]

Same as Thailand imo

[@09kenxgamer31]

And can't ignore the fact that duterte is "more pro china" and "anti US" so where's where your "enemy to none and friends to everyone" your ass.

[@PhuNguyen-es2dn]

It's time for ASEAN nations walk for our own way

[@sakurakou2009]

if asean countries choose america and bring them into their region they will turn into war zone like middle east . . or puppet states like south korea and japan at most .. they should work togather to protect each others independent of forgein powers

[@shrouckum3727]

@@sakurakou2009 We are trying to do business and peace, not choosing for the greedy country.

[@sakurakou2009]

@@shrouckum3727 I honestly know china is kind difficult and aggressive with their approch , but is it really worth it to bring westren conolism in your doors , most asian countries economy is raising at higher speed it leaving european countries struggling , do you really think european would come to help , they coming to bring back their conolial golden age , I said what I said and if up to asian countries , cuz if u.s went into war with china it wouldnt end for next 30years or so , Iraq was producing more oil then saudi and Kuwait complain , now people wonder where iraq oil , libya same , and if you read in african history european are reason why till this day their no peace their , do whatever you gonna do to avojd war and westren intervention.

[@halfpinoy4162]

Would you know that US was the one who brought the economy of Vietnam into a powerhouse of ASIA?

[@samliew6610]

Yes, tell the Whites that SEA countries DO NOT want to take sides. We all want to like in Peace and be Happy.

[@liza6162]

Fantastic reporting

[@mochen9282]

"Americans have always been there for the Philippines". It is so irony, especially if you watch EP1/4 where Chinese consider colonization as hundred year shame.

[@mbbb1]

Wow! So virtuous! I'm going to cry. Three and a half century of inhumane treatment due to colonization from Spain, half a decade from Japan and half a century from US. That's the Philippine history nitw*t! We fought with blood and asserted our dignity. We didn't accept them with wide arms open as what you we're trying to insinuate with your comment. Just because we don't consider it a shame doesn't mean that we are proud of it! Pathetic.

[@Kunnot641]

@@mbbb1 true

[@TitoTimTravels]

The US had the PIs for less than 50 years. Spain colonized you for centuries. Don't blame us for your troubles... 😎

[@sakuragihanamichi1042]

@@TitoTimTravels FACTS ABOUT SPANISH PHILIPPINES Spanish Manila and Philippines was seen in the 19th century as a model of colonial governance that effectively put the interests of the original inhabitants of the islands before those of the colonial power even they were bankrupted several times in maintaining the Philippines. As John Crawfurd put it in its History of the Indian Archipelago, in all of Asia the "Philippines alone did improve in civilization, wealth, and populousness under the colonial rule" of a foreign power. John Bowring, Governor General of British Hong Kong from 1856 to 1860, wrote after his trip to Manila: "Credit is certainly due to Spain for having bettered the condition of a people who, though comparatively highly civilized, yet being continually distracted by petty wars, had sunk into a disordered and uncultivated state. The inhabitants of these beautiful Islands upon the whole, may well be considered to have lived as comfortably during the last hundred years, protected from all external enemies and governed by mild laws vis-a-vis those from any other tropical country under native or European sway, owing in some measure, to the frequently discussed peculiar (Spanish) circumstances which protect the interests of the natives." In The Inhabitants of the Philippines, Frederick Henry Sawyer wrote: "Until an inept bureaucracy was substituted for the old paternal rule, and the revenue quadrupled by increased taxation, the Filipinos were as happy a community as could be found in any colony. The population greatly multiplied; they lived in competence, if not in affluence; cultivation was extended, and the exports steadily increased. [...] Let us be just; what British, French, or Dutch colony, populated by natives can compare with the Philippines as they were until what 1895?." Asia's oldest and continue modern learning institution was University of Santo Tomas (Dominican, OP), est. 1611. Universidad De San Ignacio (Jesuit, now defunct when Pope suspended Jesuits for brief period of time) est. 1601. University of San Carlos, est. 1595. The Augustinians opened a parochial school in Cebu in 1565. The Franciscans, took to the task of improving literacy in 1577, aside from the teaching of new industrial and agricultural techniques. The Jesuits followed in 1581, as well as the Dominicans in 1587, setting up a school around archipelago. The church and the school cooperated to ensure that Christian villages had schools for students to attend. Schools for boys and for girls were then opened. Colegios were opened for boys, ostensibly the equivalent to present day senior high schools. The Universidad de San Ignacio, founded in Manila by the Jesuits in 1589 was the first colegio. Eventually, it was incorporated into the University of Santo Tomas, College of Medicine and Pharmacology following the suppression of the Jesuits. Girls had two types of schools - the beaterio, a school meant to prepare them for the convent, and another, meant to prepare them for secular womanhood. The Spaniards are the ones who taught the Filipinos to worship the True God (Biblical God). *Jesus was Asian* Christianity made the Filipinos to abandon pagan ways, polygamy, war freak attitude, infanticide and learn temperance, monogamy, resilience and more refined characteristics based from the teachings of Catholic Christianity. Spaniards defeated and ends the warring Hindus, Buddhist, Animist and Islamic chiefdoms all over archipelago and united it into a single governing entity as Spanish East Indies under Spanish Crown. The Spaniards are the ones who taught the Filipinos to eat sardines, made and eat pandesal bread during breakfast, drink coffee and chocolate, to wear modest dress because ancient Filipinos were almost half naked and to watch stage plays. Spanish regime had brought slavery and exploited Philippine resources, but in fairness it brought and taught more civilized way of life to the Filipino people that British, French and Dutch never implemented in their colonies. How successful Spanish are!?. By late 1900s, Philippines is the only majority Christian nation in Asia, 95% Catholics that practiced Hispanic culture, speaking Castillian Spanish as lingua franca long before Ethnic Tagalog dialect and English implemented in schools after Americans banned Spanish in 1901. #HistoryofFilipinas Asians by Blood, Spanish in Culture, Catholic Christianity by Religion.

[@okoswiata5850]

I, as an Indonesian just want peace and stability in our region. That's why we become part of the Non-Bloc.

[@dhanajon5528]

that doesnt seem to be stopping land grabs by china tho? dont they send fishermen to the Natuna Islands too?

[@D.P.617]

@@dhanajon5528 true, but looking at middle east and east asia, and also history. Cant trust the west too 😁🙏

[@okoswiata5850]

@@dhanajon5528 Yep, but China does it not only to Natuna. Just look Spratly Islands

[@user-ge5oq6wt5g]

@@dhanajon5528 Yes, grab resources in China's territorial waters. China should give you resources obediently, right?

[@dhanajon5528]

@@user-ge5oq6wt5g at this point the whole world can be considered Chinas territorial waters

[@phoenixdown1947]

yeah asean people doesn't want conflict , just good business.

[@hagzroalac]

This is kind of content im looking for. Thanks CNA INSIDER

[@celticsaxon8857]

Excellent documentary.

[@victorhuynh4031]

US outsider in the region, asian never let US dictate the term of engagement in Asia. US no longer a sole economy superpower in the world. Asian country conduct their business what best for them.

[@nexu6517]

And Southeast Asians are speaking. Don't you hear it? We don't want Chinese hegemony either. You have a hidden agenda and you obviously sympayhize with the CCP. If you think China would treat us Southeast Asians any better, you're delusional. This is just a second campaign of 'Asia for Asians' firstly used by the Japanese to control Southeast Asia. Now its China's turn to fool us.

[@rlai2201]

@@nexu6517 YOU ARE DELUSIONAL AND BRAINWASHED BY THE WEST! YOU ARE TOXIC! ASIANS SHOULD FINALLY RUN THEIR OWN CAUSE AND INTEREST AND SHOULD NOT ALLOW COLONIZERS TO COME AND DICTATE WHAT IS BEST FOR ASIANS!

[@victorray9369]

Exactly.

[@davidtran337]

Sounds like the CCP speaking here

[@Dv8er73]

@@rlai2201 Yes, the WEST always have been the cause of WARS...just read thru their history...hasn't there been a time they stopped fighting?

[@deltacharlieromeo8252]

By the way, that Gregorio Del Pilar ship is a 50-year old cutter from USA. Sold for a very high price and stripped of its weapons. That's how USA cares for the Philippines.

[@danielchong1086]

Chinese internet gambling & meth factories are obviously better investments for the Philippines.

[@user-el6mb2qk3q]

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[@57evzun62]

@@user-el6mb2qk3q I'm still wondering how you guys use YT when it's not even available in your country

[@LinLin-cz6vp]

@@57evzun62 They can always use VPN

[@susandinosaur732]

@@57evzun62 i dont understand what he is saying. though if its anti china. this one is probably taiwanese and they can access google.

[@jqwoo]

In hindsight today. Many events mentioned has changed from good to bad or vice versa. The investment by CN in a few ASEAN nations tend to be tilted towards CN; The same go for the rest of ASEAN with high US/EU/JP investments. Each leader will take side for their nation instead of personal gain will be respected. Let's watch the situation again in 2 years time.

[@martinguandjienchan7525]

Compliments, a good balanced documentation. One seldom finds that in the media.

[@tokrot]

There is no such thing as friends forever...

[@yirehmiyahmagsayo361]

what a great video documentaries series😎😇💪

[@MRSECEA]

It's a bittersweet to watch this.

[@jonasromeoveliganio2517]

I'm a filipino the peace and stability is the key to avoid war, love from the philippines

[@godwinanthonygravador3019]

Russia: grabs popcorn and HOLD MY VODKA

[@ivy3420]

Da

[@feather563]

🍿

[@user-tt7il4wq7x]

Russia watching both their historical rivals destroy each other HAHA.

[@ericxu3860]

The US : go go brothers in South East country you should pay me to fight against China. China: don't worry about the US.. let us do business together.

[@yohaneschristianp]

China is the next gangsta. USA is old yelling gangsta

[@parseenanoo5301]

I want American in South East Asia

[@thomasdong3882]

@@parseenanoo5301 that will never happen

[@danielong9170]

@@thomasdong3882 who knows xD

[@lotusrain4102]

More like: Let me exploit u (US is not good, but CCP is even worse)

[@andrewbergeron6979]

yes sounds great !!

[@hungmanxxxx2462]

18:29 .... PEACE and collaboration and growth ......that’s what we need. No more war in ASIA!!!!!!

[@augustinepan7991]

Development can happen only when there’s peace. All countries in the region understand that.

[@liangqian9461]

you dont choose sides, you choose interest, whichever benefit your people, thats how small country survival. best example : Singapore

[@Justineexy]

Choose both! Get all the benefits and money!!!

[@enkindel]

Southeast Asian nations should unite like the European Union (EU) and establish closer and better trade and security relations within each other to counter the expansionist ambitions of China and also US. ASEAN nations are stronger together.

[@tuannguyenhuy77]

As a Vietnamese who experienced the cost of the inability to balance between titans (Soviet and China), I can say that we're making the right choice to be neutral. Though with some of the newest actions of China in the South China sea, we might decide to change our decision

[@eb94499]

Did you forget the Vietnam war by the US?

[@brandonyu9602]

If it wasn’t for corruption, we could have improved our own infrastructure.

[@mhjggonoh7739]

True

[@burung81]

i dont know what is called debt trap. The one who need infrastructure decide what they want to build and just borrow the money. It the project too costly, is it the bank's fault?

[@vongochongphuoc6385]

@@burung81 dept trap is when a bigger country offer a good deal (at first) for smaller country Acter the deal, in the propress, the big country can raise the price

[@vongochongphuoc6385]

@@burung81 ex: a country in Africa get the dept trap for China built railways without trains

[@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263]

burung81 if the project is too costly, is the people who accept the deal fault. They're dumb

[@Peichen01]

7:54 - the 2016 ruling was by Permanent Court of Arbitration, an arbitral tribunal with no binding power and requires parties to voluntarily participate which China didn’t. Most people confused it with International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea which is an UN agency with binding power. In the 2015 case of “Mauritius v. United Kingdom”, the US and UK ignored the ruling by the Permanent Court of Arbitration as well because participation is voluntary and decision non-binding.

[@long6646]

Thank you for your explanation.

[@tandyawanchen8217]

TheU.S can only shows Its influence through Military presence and sanctions, unlike China that actually comes with physical investment that actually had the impact to push for development.

[@EternityWish]

Don't be fooled. There's no developments. **Modern war is fought with $$$$$$$$ !!!** The usual so-called "investment" in farms, water, property. Why invade when the other country will willingly sell you everything? China invests heavily into poor countries whom they know can't pay back the debts (eg, Sri Lanka, Fiji, Vanuatu, etc). And when they can't repay the debts, China will take a port or a piece of land and then build a military in those areas. Also, when China goes into those countries, they promise jobs and economy. What really happens is that they bring Chinese workers in to do the work (no jobs for locals) and then the country owes a giant debt to China. **In addition, China demands that these countries vote WITH them on critical issues at the United Nations!** Funnily enough, China doesn't let foreigners buy up their land and infrastructure. US/Canada/Australia, unlike China, allow foreign interests to own land, property and to control vital resources such as water. We got nothing out of trading with China. Their money comes with onerous conditions. They're smarter than our politicians.

[@taylorhanson3867]

I love the message here, I wish the world could seek peace in the ways that ASEAN member states, and many other nations worldwide do.. why cant we all just unite, and strive to boost all economies to build a better future together for all of the world rather than fighting to the deaths of so many in a conflict as deadly as one between two superpowers would be..

[@ame9021]

Couple of years ago, "pick a side" would not even become a question.

[@rogerkarlos5697]

Trump govmnt forced you...

[@jdjssd.n.jsjssjs8951]

Just tell that Asean don't take side. China did not tell Asean to take side and if US wants Asean to take side, then the answer is quite obvious as Asean prosperity is link to China which is an economic superpower and will be the biggest in terms of GDP in a few years time.

[@PeterKong609]

then whats next? pick india? whats next? pick another country with big gdp? you dont want to pick sides that will consumed you lol

[@p.p.2904]

​@@PeterKong609 If ASEAN need a pick side, they should be pick other than colonialist. But the best part is none of em pick the side and stay neutral.

[@dhanajon5528]

@@p.p.2904 and picking a dictatorship thats been land grabbing in the last few years is the better option?

[@arylmabanag8874]

Taking a side that harrase small Filipino fishing vessels ? 🤔 lol

[@jdjssd.n.jsjssjs8951]

@@dhanajon5528 . Can you be more specific and say which land the dictator has grabbed?. Don't use disputed boundaries as land grabbed.

[@ellashy6539]

you at how CNA representing Singapore with its brilliant depiction of her neighbours is trying to put a message across that they want to remain neutral and reap the benefits of both sides xD

[@renemartin5729]

Good documentary, but why the bombastic music?

[@sikuntan]

US: Pick a side, ASEAN! Do you want me to protect you or beat you? China: Don't pick a side. Let's do business ASEAN, just like we have been doing for centuries. Who are hell are you, US? You locate 6000 miles away, don't you?

[@xuhuadaniel3810]

@Naomi Lotte pick your own people, don’t pick any other countries. Whatever is good for people, do so. Then you’ll see there’s nothing good to make enemies with your neighbors.

[@xuhuadaniel3810]

@Naomi Lotte for thousands years of human history, has china ever invade one single country? For the last decades, how many wars have the us bring to the world, to other countries in the name of freedom and democracy

[@annamc9946]

How would you call someone who by cheating and covering up has created a very big problem and on top of that he behave arrogantly and tries to put the blame on anyone else?

[@sikuntan]

@@annamc9946 Eh, USA?

[@annamc9946]

@@sikuntan To say that a whole country is like that seems quite racist, what do you think? are you racist?

[@nanhinting7447]

When Titans clash, we will pick one side and that is the side of supplies. We can supply body bags, groceries and anything under the sun. That's the winner side.

[@beingwise218]

Sure Doug McArthur returned, but the US dragged the Philippines to WWII, and it's quite fascinating to say at least that the US did not help the Philippines with its rehabilitation after the war. Instead, it sent all its humanitarian aid to the Japanese.

[@ramthian]

Cool 😎

[@karthikn8536]

1) THE BEST Documentary I've seen in recent times about this Trade war. CNA has done a brilliant job in showing both sides of the argument and also presented the ASEAN opinion really well (though we'd like to see more of it). 2) As an Indian, I hope the recent initiatives taken by our govt would help us reap some benefits from this reset in global trade networks and we also prosper. That way, we'll also be a good alternative for the world to count on, in case such events repeat in the future.

[@hoangtruong8727]

Americans just use India for their interest

[@farhanbrohan2746]

Most, if not all, of South-East Asian country tries to be politically neutral. At times, some policies might look like it favour the other but every single country here only do what is deemed best for them.

[@laraib827]

Well said Sir Farhan..

[@BUHAWl]

its not about the country, its about who is runs the country.

[@muayboran6111]

At this point we'll be choosing ourselves over those 2... we always have the option to progress with ASEAN further than what we have now instead of letting these 2 countries pull us into external conflicts, that doesn't do anything for southeast asia

[@Richard-dd3mm]

As a Chinese, I don’t quite understand why these countries have to choose a side. Only the US WANTS them to stand by himself!!!

[@shrouckum3727]

For many decades passing by. Why your government claimed the West Philippine sea?. It's because of the oil/gas?. Too much greed. China is no different in the US

[@Drinkwater.]

Stop claiming the sea and piss off

[@ninjafilmz7495]

Debt diplomacy is china's strategy, US gives billions in aid to most of the asean countries and china too. China success is due to American investment. China is owned by the communist, America is owned by the big corporations. Dont forget who spread the Wuhan virus. Thanks to china the whole world is suffering.

[@indiartobudisantoso7746]

ASEAN don't need both.......we can stand on our own.....

[@WINDYCHUNG]

as Chinese, I support you. you can live well on your own. sometimes I feel bored on the western philosophy. why should small country MUST pick side and follow big country? non sense! if I am from small country I hope big power stay far away from us!!!👎

[@hkfoo3333]

Better check who is Asean biggest trading partner and you will know China is vital for Asean

[@hkfoo3333]

@Mixed Nats what is so bad about China you tell me . And you tell me what is so good about your regime Try if you can find one China's fault.

[@paolodon4255]

I'm sorry I'm a Filipino and this a shame

[@hkfoo3333]

@Mixed Nats I just ask you a simple question and I know you can't answer and use this stupid excuse being brainwashed. Ok brainwashed from what ...you tell me. You tell me what good had your country done to the world and I can give you lots of good China did. I know you can't even mention one

[@khoalinski]

I'm Vietnamese, and I just want peace. We don't want any wars or conflicts or any weapon sounds. We just want peace.

[@fohhee]

Who ever wins, we, the people, lost.

[@theideamatters3280]

How can a country thousands of miles away ask anyone to chose them or your next door neighbor?

[@Dv8er73]

That to me is baffling as well....it don't make sense.....must be some dumber form of IQ... for 美国 to believe that they will be "chosen"

[@Genesongx]

Welp in this case you should choose between a dictatorship, which probably will mess your economy or another country that will do the same but in way less degree

[@dhanajon5528]

because their neighbors ruled by a greedy honey bear?

[@juandelacruz369]

On the other side, how can a country who's silently building its military bases on your territorial waters ask you to choose them?

[@Dv8er73]

@@juandelacruz369 nobody in their right mind would like to be made to “choose” between any. Taking sides in a geopolitical issue is really unproductive, has anybody learned anything from Switzerland?

[@val.t7487]

I personally prefer China... But this all up to all Asian countries leaders to decide what best for them.

[@Serpenteent]

if you could tell me why, i'd like to see your perspective despite this being 2 days ago

[@val.t7487]

@@SerpenteentThe most logic sense is China also an Asian country themselves... Their goals, visions, values or perspectives will not far different from other Asian countries... Besides that, I've personally deal business with the Chinese from China which I find them honest in dealing business...(I'm a Malaysian Chinese).. For quality products, you will need to spend little more but if your budget is limited, they will still send those products that suit your budget but of course it less quality... It's all up to the consumer's wallet...

[@bahamut149]

As a Vietnamese I favor the US.

[@val.t7487]

@@bahamut149 It's your choice... No one have the rights to have a say about your choice...

[@KevinTroy777]

@Jerry Li SoKoreans have always dreamed to become white people so jokes on you....

[@carlcutts8535]

Sooner or later they will have to pick

[@SamA-cc3pj]

it's troubling that we, the ASEAN community gave to pick a side despite the fact that all we want is peace and fair trade. if these two nations clash, our region will be the battleground and will suffer the most. Hopefully in the years to come we will become a powerhouse of our own. ASEAN nations are among the fastest growing economies in the world.³

[@matthiane9453]

ASEAN has four choices mainly: 1. Pick China - This one would be controversial especially for the countries that have the SCS dispute. If China could accept that it doesn’t claim the entire SCS, then ASEAN just may be able to cooperate with the Chinese more than the Americans. However the question is could that really happen? Especially with the US still patrolling the SCS and of course China not wanting to back down from a country that sees it as a rival. Assuming though if ASEAN and China works something out and China promises that it won’t do anything else to our countries then this would be a huge blow to the US and really beneficial to ASEAN. Why? Because with the current geopolitical events, it is likely that China will overtake the US (mostly owing to its large population which is almost 4x the US and it’s rising industries), of course countries that want to develop their economies will side with the nation that could help them in the long run, and so that is what China is right now. 2. Pick US - This one is the current choice however how would this help ASEAN? Well, the US’s sphere of influence has long been in the region’s countries especially the 2 main nations with disputing claims over the SCS (the Philippines and Vietnam). However the thing is America hasn’t been doing so well especially after what Trump did with that country, so it is going to be a matter of time if the US wants to keep itself together, right now some are saying the US is experiencing a global decline of influence and is starting to become more isolationist. This will only depend on what the Biden administration and the next administration (if they get someone like Trump again) are going to do. If the US doesn’t do anything and becomes isolationist, then ASEAN would obviously lean more to China, however if the US changes right now then we’ll have to see how it would “protect” ASEAN. 3. Pick Both - This one is a very deadly choice because whoever becomes the president, prime minister or leader in general of each ASEAN country has to show to their respective country that they may get cozy with one superpower but they’re still with the other one, which is a difficult task. Saying “oh no, China is building islands in the SCS and they are attacking boats, we need the US!” and then turning your back and saying “We should let more Chinese businesses come in, the US wouldn’t mind” will obviously leave a portion of the population confuse on which side they truly are on (However an exception that I see this is with Singapore, the probably only real neutral nation in ASEAN). However, if done properly then perhaps there may be a chance that your country grows while you get to play and manipulate the 2 major powers. Say if the Philippines had a president that would use China to its advantage by accepting more investments and projects from them to advance its economy while it can turn around and if the SCS dispute comes up, it can turn to the US for defense. That’s just one scenario on how it could play out. 4. Pick Neither - This one is personally my current pick. Why don’t these 2 powers leave us alone? Many people ask, well in the real world people are greedy and want competition therefore we can’t really tell the US and China “Stop”, that’s not how geopolitics works. However, one alternative solution to this, is to not pick a side between these powers, instead what ASEAN could do is unify (not literally more figuratively) under some idea where we don’t have to be under these 2. ASEAN right now has a population of over 600 Million (2x the US, I believe almost half of China), and at least half, around 350 Million, of those are in 2 countries (Indonesia, and the Philippines), plus most of the populations of each country are still young which gives a benefit. Making an actual union is better to these countries. Even though, we’re also still developing and our cultures can be very similar and very different, (Vietnam culturally is closer to East Asia than SEA, the Philippines isn’t super close with its Austronesian neighbors like Malaysia and Indonesia, etc.) I think increasing our relationship with one another will definitely help us in the long term. Imagine if Filipinos and Indonesians would regularly travel to one another and share more cultural exchange or Vietnamese and Burmese interacting with each other more or Cambodians with Timorese, who knows maybe even after a period of time, a independent ASEAN identity would develop so that we wouldn’t be under China and the US’s hands anymore but that’s all wishful thinking unless the current and future governments do start thinking something similar to that. If you actually read through that, then I guess thanks for listening to my Ted Talk. -Sincerely, a South East Asian who hopefully could visit each ASEAN country and who hopefully won’t see a war break out in the region because of stupid power hungry nations.

[@leanderbarreto6523]

Asean should make an Asian equivalent of NATO for it's armed forces to counter China's SCS ambition

[@99waterblade]

I don't know about option 1 since we know what China does to its own people, e.g. hong kong, xianjing, taiwan, tiennamen square, so I don't expect them to keep their word on anything, let alone foreign countries with varying religions/cultures...I agree with option 4 the best

[@ChinaAnt01]

@@99waterblade I know from your example that you have been cheated deeply.

[@jamesl2590]

Which side to choose? Just recall the proportion of power between both superpower when our country was/is growing well. That is the best spot/position to maintain. It should never be 50:50. 50:50 will result in another cold war or more aggressive confrontation. The shift towards that position is definitely not going to be peaceful regardless of which administration, unless they wish to see their own political power recede. A hegemonic structure is still the best for the world and region. It is not as simple as staying neutral. Sometimes you have to force that equilibrium behind the scenes. Doing nothing, which may result in an unwanted proportion, will force you to take a side which you don't want. Especially if you are small, you don't have the luxury of choice at the end. This is why so many countries in Asia still want to hold on to certain superpower bases. Not because they love that superpower, but because of its counterbalancing effect. So guys, time to put aside all your cultural hatred or thousand year old yellow tribal sentiments and start thinking from your own national interests.

[@noishfanboy1141]

I like option 4 but personally I feel like we're in a bit of a poland situation where we are right in between 2 superpowers who want to have a sphere of influence over us but if we choose neither then we run the risk of them both trying to take us down and just like poland be redistributed among themselves.

[@KamenRiderBlackSun]

I think south east Asia in general should just team up like European Union

[@grayscale888]

What if ASEAN become a titan itself? Aot theme plays*

[@kiksasid8986]

Nice!!😂🤣 Yeah hope so!