US/UK Carrier Group vs China/Russia Carrier Group (Naval Battle Vid 32) | DCS WORLD

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[@mattrmsf]

If all these fights keep coming down to guns, It's time to bring USS Missouri out of retirement.

[@iqbal_pradana]

Thunderstruck - ACDC

[@loganjefferies3927]

Iqbal Pradana battleship movie vibes

[@pLAST3RdISAST3R]

I second that nomination, they retired the U.S.S. Enterprise as well right?., I wonder if it'll just be a starship from now on. Ooh maybe they'll have a new starship U.S.S. Missouri as part of the Galactic Federations' Starfleet Command as well in the future! Missouri loves company, Charlie-company, that is.., in 'Other' "News"... - Service Guarantee's Citizenship... - Would You Like To Know More?..

[@anatolilukanov7675]

Piss off they had almost infinite harpoons and 15 planes more which some of them were stealth and you're still crying

[@rodneydecormier1504]

@@anatolilukanov7675 US aircraft would takeoff 100 miles sooner and committed for straight. Return to the aircraft carrier we arm and reload and then commit to 2nd Strike. Stealth is an advantage that the Russians could not overcome with their air cap. Just like in a land war AirPower is king. See what happened in Syria 300+ casualties with no US casualties because the US rules the skies.

[@martinwyke]

The Yank and Russian pilots that landed at the neutral airfield decided Jager bombs was the way to settle things.

[@yjwrangler7819]

Ew.... the evil deer?

[@grimreapers]

lol

[@michaelkneringer3194]

Jagermeister Shotmeisters

[@rakido7388]

"And the Sambuca's caught fire! The Sambuca is on f...oh."

[@koekiejam18]

I think vodka with coca cola would be more culturaly appropriate!

[@AscendingBliss]

So crazy that after all of that technology thrown at one another, the deciding factor is the 30mm.

[@Slaphappy1975]

Something I never thought I'd ever see lol

[@ddandymann]

If the Americans had brought the Missouri back into commission it would have been an absolute gamechanger in this battle.

[@AllThingsCubey]

@@noidontthinksolol Yeah, lol, the F-35s just flew right past the fighters and sat in crossfire from SAMs and more agile aircraft. It is what it is when AI runs the show.

[@humplays1879]

@@AllThingsCubey AI ran the show for the russians and chinese fleet too, lmao!

[@AllThingsCubey]

@@humplays1879 broken clock's right twice a day

[@smokeyjoe1034]

Epic moment when that Russian AWACS plane just barely dodged that AIM-9X missile. Great show.

[@AquaStevae]

And AWACS could NEVER dodge a missile. This is idiotic.

[@heistherussian]

@@AquaStevae It is pretty realistic. When the soviets shot down passenger plane near Kmachatka, fighter jet had to use 2 rockets because the first one missed.

[@AquaStevae]

@@heistherussian Sorry, but no it's not. There are so many missing technologies, that it could NEVER be realistic. How could it be realistic without some of the most important factors included, like maybe submarines. There are many others as well, but I haven't the time or inclination to go into them.

[@eagleeye5943]

@@AquaStevae u should be happy you will never see a real life emulation of this

[@foresthamilton2243]

@@eagleeye5943 *about that-*

[@aggressiveworshiper3155]

IDEA A carrier group defending a bay with ground vehicles, anti-air, and helis supporting them against a MASSIVE assault of 2 enemy carrier groups.

[@simong5960]

Yes this would be epic

[@martinpalmer6203]

Iranian Combined armed forces defending against US/British Carrier invasion force attempting to transit the strait of Hormuz.... All the boghammers + revolutionary guards navy, helicopters, drones and especially lots of land based SAM and Anti-Ship missiles... Use the Iranian F14s and a Russian A50 "observing" So many fun things could be done with this parent Idea

[@johnzackowitz9425]

@@martinpalmer6203 aircraft let's move on to

[@johnzackowitz9425]

@@simong5960 they are not murdered in the game so these are as good as they get in the game okay they are tasked with heading out not just charging at the enemy carrier but fanning out to the flanks and just shooting any reds they can see simple as that and then if they survive if they can be in return but it's

[@lovepapa9559]

Especially China carrier battle group withland base DF16, DF16, DF26 YJ21 H6 JF7 with anti ship missiles.

[@mythicfour]

There is only one thing I learned from this video.. Modern naval gunfights would be absolutely terrifying.

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@grimreapers only if you're sending in ships never designed FOR a practically point-blank naval gunfight. You send ONE built-for-purpose battleship in there with 14, 15, 16 or 18 inch guns? And also ARMOUR designed to take shells from the above? Say an Iowa-class like USS Missouri? That fight wouldn't have lasted five bloody minutes

[@Orieni]

Always interesting to get Cap’s calm, thoughtful commentary, with all of the deliberation of a ferret on Red Bull.😊

[@williamdawes4903]

An idea for this confrontation. The Us Navy decided after much wargaming that they need more firepower in the carrier group when it comes to a gun duel. They decide to recommission an Iowa Class BB to make up for the lack of boom boom. So it would be great to see this played out! Thanks! I am loving this channel.

[@Uriel77200]

characteristics (1984)Complement1,851 officers and enlistedSensors and processing systems AN/SPS-49 Air Search Radar AN/SPS-67 Surface Search Radar AN/SPQ-9 Surface Search / Gun Fire Control Radar Electronic warfare & decoys AN/SLQ-32 AN/SLQ-25 Nixie Decoy System 8 × Mark 36 SRBOC Super Rapid Bloom Rocket Launchers Armament 9 × 16 in (406 mm)/50 cal Mark 7 guns 12 × 5 in (127 mm)/38 cal Mark 12 guns 32 × BGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missiles 16 × RGM-84 Harpoon Anti-Ship missiles 4 × 20 mm/76 cal Phalanx CIWS

[@Uriel77200]

We need this modeled soooooo fricken bad!

[@russellknight26]

And if the 16" Guns can modelled with ap and he shells along with the ships built in redundancy systems supported by it incomparable ammunition capacity. BVR destruction of the hostile force. With the highest value assets being sailors a carrier fleet should have always included a BB also probably the greatest recruitment tool never fully utilized IMO.

[@1IbramGaunt]

Please make this happen 🙏😁 *Thunderstruck plays*

[@anatolilukanov7675]

Piss off they had almost infinite harpoons and 15 planes more which some of them were stealth and you're still crying

[@lelouchjoestar1008]

Glorious video cap, but the two opposing pilots who landed together ?. They are the real winners.🤣

[@angelarch5352]

"The only way to win the game... is not to play". -Two random AI jet pilots in DCS having a beer together.

[@terpdx]

@@angelarch5352 One pilot was Russian, so he's having vodka.

[@Willon]

@@terpdx lmao

[@shannonnezul4903]

Reds win when the fight is just go until its a mess at 50ft, USN would never get close enough for the guns to go off they would move around or lead enemy ships away and into an attack. The strategy of drive me closer I want to hit them with my sword isn't really a naval tactic. But it's hella fun to watch even if my patriotism hurts XD

[@rembrantwithagrenade171]

Aye its certainly fun

[@rolanddeschain965]

Drive closer I want to hit them with a sword! That's the phrase I was looking for! Cool video but a scenario that would never ever occur. Unless the current regime makes Xi jinping head of the joint chiefs....

[@TheLastPhoen1x]

46:24 "Leave my helicopter alone, you naughty man!" Missile: "Okay :(" *turns away and flies in other direction*

[@MaddMattsGarage]

Yes indeed.... awesome.

[@dakotaperalta1302]

The lack of ammunition is a huge issue for these fleets.

[@rogerwilco71]

Good Lord this play-by-play commentating is legendary! *Massive applause*

[@trolleriffic]

In that initial bombardment the subsonic missiles need to be launched well before the supersonic ones to have them all arrive at roughly the same time to give them a better chance of getting through. Awesome fight though!

[@karlkobler218]

Also have F-35’s dropping 8 storm breakers a piece 40nm out.

[@namja01]

The anti-ship aircraft would've gotten a lot more ordnance off if they were set to "Restrict jettison stores". The moment any aircraft paints them, they'll jettison all loads even if the threat was only for a half-second. Also, there is precedence for the Tarawa's being configured in a Sea Control Ship configuration of 20 Harriers. I've done a similar battle, except I also involved the Air Force for both sides and set the engagement range to 400 miles. The Tu-22M's and B-52's really hit hard with their anti-ship missiles. Ultimately the Western coalition would gain air superiority due to their higher numbers of aircraft, but I could never get a good coordinated ToT saturation attack from the F/A-18's, F-16's, AV-8B's, SH-60's and B-52's.... thus REDFOR would survive and stalemate the battle.

[@bransondarch8678]

Yeah your really need to restrict their stores jettison cause otherwise they all just drop them well before even getting close to launching and they're wasted.

[@grimreapers]

Roger, guys.

[@Anarchy_420]

namja01, I noticed you didn't mention F-35's in you attack? Really like the idea of adding the bombers👍

[@Anarchy_420]

@@grimreapers I have an idea well technically it's not my idea the Navy has done it in the past and I believe they could possibly implement it again considering U.S. Navy realizes they are out gund up close, I'm talking about bringing a Battleship out of retirement of course ;) Rematch with The Battleship Missouri placed next to The Carrier for protection!👍 Really anyway you could use this idea would be bad a$$ Modern U.S. Carrier Fleet with One still existing Battleship! Lol acting as a bodyguard for The Nimitz Carrier👍👍

[@namja01]

@@Anarchy_420 Yeah, I didn’t have the mod. They probably make it so that every strike package goes through untouched; usually one 12-ship F/A-18 squadron and one 24-ship F-16 squadron have to defend themselves with 50-75% attrition rates.

[@anthonyhenry9383]

Carrier defenses are layered to provide in-depth protection. Carrier strike groups arrange their defensive perimeters in layers that reach out hundreds of miles, so that any enemy seeking to get within targeting range must overcome multiple hurdles. That applies to hostile missiles, manned aircraft, submarines or any other potentially threatening system

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

True allot of brain power from many admirals who's IQ's probably come close to 180 are the ones building the doctrine and strategic defenses. These defenses are no joke.

[@ridetheapex]

Holy crap that was epic. This was the first one I have watched of this series. I had no idea the ships got into gun battles, and then close range gun fights! Holy shit this just got better and better. Just when I thought it was over, it was only just beginning! Bravo sir!

[@MrTangolizard]

They don’t in real life it’s not ww1

[@1.21Gigawatts_]

This doesn't happen. Back in the battleship days in WW1 and WW2 this happened. They won't fight that close anymore.

[@Sirmellowman]

im not sure what I look forward more to, cap getting really freaking excited when stuff is happening or the battle itself lol

[@Kevin-hb7yq]

Look at the size of that penguine!

[@zolikoff]

Kh-31 is 600 kg, there's no way a J-15/flanker is taking off the Kuz with a loadout of 6 of them :)

[@goranstevanovic4724]

They put in a just a ton of fuel, out of 9.5. After all, all they needed was to take off and were firing off immediately...

[@OdinMMA]

I had no idea that's how close quarters ship combat played out in modern warfare. The shipmen inside would get absolutely shredded, horrifying.

[@dangenereux3362]

A ship is nothing more than a soda can containing explosives and your firing something real hot through it. Gonna be hairy in there.

[@murgel2006]

I enjoyed that video very much. Cap was really amusing to listen to. Two problems have been spotted. the number of missiles, not only the obvious fault of never ending Harpoons but the number of defensive missiles as well. Especially the red side seemed to go way beyond any reasonable number. Second problem is also fairly obvious, the landed aircraft never went up again but they should have. I have seen Luftwaffe Tornados have about 20 min turnaround in TACEVAL exercises so I guess an aircraft carrier crew should have a similar time. Sure, 2 catapults may be blocked due to landing planes, but the bow launchers should be able to get something in the air.

[@Bodilesss]

Addicted to your content. Riveting. Would be very interested in seeing USA defend Taiwan vs CCP combined force. Prefer not real life. Channel rocks!

[@Saratogan]

exactly. It is the most likely in the near future. A full carrier group combined with a Taiwan land-based force defending the island. I expect that the carrier group would station 75 to 100 miles to the east of the island with full satellite intel.

[@cassius_eu5970]

@@Saratogan The US wouldn't go to war over Taiwan, ground-based hypersonic anti-ship missiles would completely obliterate anything that the US sends there. Not to mention that the US even betrayed the Kurds against Turkey, and Turkey has a much less capable military than China.

[@potatoskunk5981]

@@cassius_eu5970 Hypersonic missiles aren't much good unless you can find the carrier in the vast expanse of ocean.

[@Spicy_Italian_Sausage]

@@cassius_eu5970 what are you suggesting with the turkey part?

[@grimreapers]

hmm interesting

[@Jarsia]

This felt like that video of the 2 bears fighting until they were both completely exhausted and lazily growling and taking swipes at each other.

[@dinodude7290]

the way he calls us "valued viewers" is so wholesome

[@legionactual9281]

can I just say thank you for all your work on this series. We love it!

[@davenissly2518]

Why was the nimitz so low on planes? Wouldnt it make sense to have it carry more since its such a big ship?

[@dfinlen]

Typical carrier wing is 24-36 f18E 2x10-12f18c 4-6e18 4-6e2c 6-8 helis. Or about 64.

[@nichevo1]

@@dfinlen max around 90 iirc.

[@mikesmyth6576]

I would like to see a Gerald R. Ford class carrier and mainly modern F-35 fighters in it.

[@kiwiviking175]

Brilliant! Best one yet. A CIWS battle (in the end!) between 4 x CBGs; hilarious! (And enlightening!)

[@scottyj8112]

What a brilliant quote "book your ideas up, get up there and shoot them down", I need to come up with a scenario where I can use that.

[@Fred-eg9sx]

NATO carrier groups rely on aircrafts for anti-ship and anti-air. Russian carriers groups' anti-ship role can be supplemented by cruiser missiles. NATO groups would IRL stay out of the range of Russian anti-ship missiles.

[@denofwolves1969]

You would really need to include subs in this fight for a truly accurate battle.

[@denofwolves1969]

and before someone throws out a smart comment, yes, I know there are no subs..I'm just saying that in reality, they would make a huge difference in the fight.

[@joedibble4199]

The Marines should have been held back for fleet protection not aggressive attack. They’re not meant for dog fights, but close air support.

[@DaliLllama]

Love the fact that we can see war scenarios without loss of life, or use of resources. These are great! What went wrong? You play wars of attrition, and we should all know by now those are often at best pyrrhic victories.

[@petermallia558]

Don't forget that the UK Carrier Strike Group also has the QE Class Carriers with both AH-64 Apaches and Wildcats carrying 20 Martlet lightweight missiles each and Merlin AW101 with Lightweight Spearfish torpedoes as well as MART-ER air launched anti ship missiles too on its aircraft.

[@joelsmith9311]

I love this channel, and probably get more enjoyment from watching your videos than I would if I tried to play the game! Huge kudos to the time, expertise and enthusiasm on display in all of these videos, it's amazing.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@infantryblack]

You always put on a heck of a show! The amount of effort you pour into this is appreciated here.

[@bentley4446]

Great video!!! Thanks for adding rotary, it made a difference (sorta)

[@rpmturbo6]

This series is always entertaining. Thanks for another great video. Just a small complaint: I think the US fleet needs upgrading. A modern fleet will have a larger airwing. For example, the USS Carl Vinson is currently deployed with 1 F-35 squadron, 3 F/A-18E/F squadrons. That's at least 40+ aircraft, probably closer to 50. That doesn't include the Growlers, who could provide the jamming the US fleet needed as well as additional firepower if necessary. That's where a lot of the strength of the US fleet lies. Also, a US LHD/LHA will typically have 6-8 harriers or F-35s and 4 Cobra's (Whiskey/Vipers). If necessary, it can handle up to 20 F-35s if converted to a small carrier, leaving off the typical helicopters (has been done before).

[@etluxaeterna]

yeah well a modern upgraded russian fleet would also have hypersonic missiles, s400/500's etc and all sorts of shit that would make quick work of the u.s. carrier group

[@rpmturbo6]

@@etluxaeterna The Russian navy does not have any operational hypersonic missiles. They have hypersonic ICBMs and air launched hypersonic missiles, but those can’t be fired by the su-33. Their anti ship hypersonic missile is still be tested and is not operational.

[@etluxaeterna]

@@rpmturbo6 WRONG. Russia currently does have an operational hypersonic missile called the KH47m2 Kinzhal. it has a range of upwards of 2000m and a speed of Mach 10. It is unstoppable and would absolutely WRECK any u.s. carrier group very easily

[@rpmturbo6]

@@etluxaeterna Those are not launched from ships. They’re carried only by the Tu-22 and MiG-31, neither of which are part of the Russian navy.

[@etluxaeterna]

@@rpmturbo6 oh yeah? What makes you think a mig31 can't take off from the Kuznetsov with a fat Kinzhal on its belly? Huh tough guy?

[@mhelmreich1]

Interesting how this has aged with the Ukrane conflict. The Moskva didn't really achieve much or last long.

[@UmbrellaXR]

I Mean it’s in the state of the entire Russian military. 3/4 of its shit was broken and didn’t work. And it’s the flagship. In real life the us group would completely annihilate both groups with ease.

[@mhelmreich1]

@@UmbrellaXR probably before lunch :/

[@photodan24]

Something was screwed up. Only two American/British ships used their deck guns.

[@rolanddeschain965]

The screwed up part is when they sailed directly into missile range without launching a single aircraft. So realistic! Cool video, but cmon man! Lol

[@garethwhite4629]

Just re-watching some of these. I love how excited and animated super cap gets around the 41 / 42 min mark. Epic sound effects.

[@kenhelmers2603]

It seemed that the two blue carriers did not fire anything, except planes... May have to watch again! Thanks GR!

[@zackc.4572]

They didn’t. Simba managed like shit

[@yuuzyerbrejn9603]

Bloodlust satisfaction achieved! Tour de force mates, well done. Surprise ending considering how it started.

[@ericsibert9237]

Charge until we're knife fighting 🤣....no. As a veteran United States Sailor I can definitely say that these tactics and strategies are nothing close to how we would engage enemy fleets in combat. How we would is quite sensitive, and falls under "means and methods"...which we don't talk about, because prison isn't fun I hear. In any case, fun to see...and intended to be nothing more. Would be cool to see some unclassified tactics employed. A couple Seawolf and Virginia class attack subs, and the Chinese/Russians may be left with throwing rocks from fishing trawlers....IF the Russian carrier could stop catching fire, getting holes ripped in it...etc....before it even gets there. Hell, it may sink itself to spare us the weapons...lol. Bravo...good fun my friend!

[@marinodezelak1180]

Overconfidence is always a good thing to see In a military person! Can't let morale falter. tho.. tbf, I don't know about the Chinese, But the Russians definitely wouldn't be trying to get up close... there's a reason they obsessively make long range missiles.

[@Decrepit_biker]

Well that was awesome! Surprised you didn't know that type 45s are actually made up entirely of harpoon missiles and launchers though? They just get smaller and smaller as they fire until there's just a guy in a rowing boat left..... 🤣

[@grimreapers]

lol

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@grimreapers why the hell didn't the main guns on the Type 45's work?! All they fired with was the 30mm either side, intended to fight small attack-boats

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@grimreapers and they're 4.5 inch Mk8 guns which are an old but reliable and not at all small model of naval gun, that has a 13 mile max range

[@CRAZYUNCLE117]

Once this is fixed, and the planes will take off again once they re-arm and re-fuel, then I will be VERY interested to see this battle again.

[@OlivePittsOnDesk]

I would guess an Iowa would do well in close gun range because of the armor and firepower.

[@Uriel77200]

Yes! A refit Battleship Missouri as seen in the Gulf War would be awesome for this. Stay in the rear, protected from incoming missiles. As soon as they run out, push full speed 34 knots and start using those huge turrets!

[@billwhoever2830]

@@Uriel77200 The p700 granit was designed to deal with the battleships. This is why the 4 battleships of the US werent used in extend during the cold war. The p700 granits used to have nuclear warheads. They targeted carriers and battleships. The Kirov, the russian ship disabled early on in the video had 24 of those missiles. There is no way the US fleet could shoot them all down in time to avoid massive damage, at least on the electronics on the softer ships. The battleship would be sunk with only one of them (direct hit).

[@lolroflroflcakes]

@@billwhoever2830 A direct hit with a nuke might do it but this has been physically tested on multiple vessels and battleships tend to survive even near misses. A 2000 pound warhead, however, it's not going to kill a battleship with a single hit or even multiple hits, barring Hood level rotten luck. The ship is built to be a punching bag, it was designed to survive it's own gunfire. This means it can take a hit from a similarly sized warhead in an armour piercing shell travelling at similiar speeds.

[@roberthogan9273]

The commentary is awesome... You can tell you all have fun doing this!

[@77dris]

Dang, these videos are so good, especially the commentary. LOL. One thing the sims can't reproduce are things like self preservation. Once one side gets a big upper hand, generally the other will retreat, either individually or en mass. This can make a huge difference in outcomes.

[@petekaiser8856]

My father served on the Tarowa and I got to take a tour of the ship with him as a kid. Not only does it carry Helo's, but it also has the ability to send out hover landing craft things that themselves can carry two M1 tanks or like a shit load of pissed off Marines.

[@Macquarrie1999]

Send out the boarding party!

[@dmgranger90]

I love these simulations. The only thing i would like to see is a more accurate simulation of how each piece of military equipment would use their weaponry.The F-35 and F-22s have incredible range on their weapons systems and would fire their air to air missiles hundreds miles away from their targets. If necessary, they could launch, fire, circle around and land to reload. The saturation coming from the US aircraft carriers would be that of missiles before the jets themselves. Same as the helicopters took flight. Also, the massive strength of the US submarine section of the Navy was not mentioned, nor was the laser defense system they have. Although this was solely about the attack on Taiwan, it would not stay on the island. The mainland of China would be invaded; on multiple fronts. N Korea would probably attack S Korea, the old SSR countries would align with Russia and defend China's backside, India and Tibet would see this as an opportunity for themselves, etc. We would align with them as well as supply them. When it comes down to an actual all out war featuring all available soldiers, weaponry, intelligence, technology, and the ability to resupply those items in battle, China and Russia, even together, would be no match for Nato or even the US alone. The economic and environmental impact of this war, would probably be great enough that no actually wins, and even the countries that "win" might eventually end up dissolving as we know it as a consequence of this.

[@christophervirgo837]

I had no idea what was going on during this video, yet I was on the edge of my seat during the battle. You sell it well sir!

[@gaz0463]

Very entertaining to watch but in the real world completely unrealistic. But that’s what makes this channel addictive to watch. Sending modern aircraft back to WW2 is a fantasy situation everyone thinks about. This channel kind of makes that happen. Great job.

[@TheGamingMotionTGM]

I've seen the updated version of this carrier group battle, which involves US, China, Russia, and UK with 2020s tech. He also mentioned in the new simulation that this old scenario (this video) was using 1990s tech, if I remembered correctly. Which should be a bit more realistic irl since technically Soviet Union still barely existed into the early 90s, so there is closer technology gap.

[@martinpalmer6203]

OMG That missile swarm... Definitely a brown trouser moment for anyone on the receiving end 🤣🤣🤣

[@matt3606-o3l]

All Stations: Brown Alert

[@MrStickyPete]

It cost 400 billion dollars to fight this battle for 12 seconds

[@jamescampbell8910]

cry some more

[@grimreapers]

Elon Musk will pay??

[@jamescampbell8910]

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[@darksideknight33x85]

Greetings from San Diego, Grim Reapers! You are the funniest person on YT I have been watching recently! Hilarious 😂 “THE PENGUINS! THE PENGUINS ARE FIRING!”…Great content as always! Much love my cousin and ally from the UK!

[@american_cosmic]

I don't even play DCS, I just love watching these videos. NIcely done.

[@randallsanchez3161]

Russian type aircraft cannot launch with a full tank of fuel or a full compliment of weapons. It's one or the other as they have a ramp system rather than a catapult assist. The catapult makes a huge difference when it comes to mission capability. The Russians were able to launch a fully loaded Su-33 with 15knots of natural wind while moving at max speed to generate a huge amount of headwind. This means the carrier has to be heading into the wind at speed to do what catapult carriers can do at anytime in almost any condition. That's not very practical at all. So in most cases the Su-33 had to run with a substantially lower payload unless there was air to air refueling available. This also made carrier based refueling aircraft a near impossibility.

[@wyattwalker3868]

My friends and I keep saying we are waiting for Arma 4 to play some realistic military combat, really thinking im just in the wrong game. I have never played DCS but this is actually amazing

[@habeebadesina8468]

Same here

[@Mox3712]

Absolutely loved this video! You guys are a joy to watch and listen to and I don't even play DCS!

[@grimreapers]

:)

[@Warpgatez]

That start was insane. I didn’t even think they’d start like that.

[@michaelkneringer3194]

You could have cut your planning and production time in half had you eliminated the US/Brit support fleet and simply inserted the Chuck Norris of US destroyers, yes, the USS Johnston. Missiles or not, the carriers wouldn't even had the need to launch. imho.

[@grimreapers]

Valid point

[@osuna3525]

I just love being up in the wee hours watching these while eating a fat bowl of ramen noodles and tea. ☺

[@grimreapers]

that's the life! x

[@Termi-Motovlogs]

I think it is great that you are excited by your hobby, the excitement makes for a much better video. Listening to your videos while I craft in final fantasy is relaxation to me. Loving your Apachie content.

[@grimreapers]

thx Sir

[@zimtak6418]

44:04 You went from very enthusiastic announcer to flat out mad man for a moment, but I love it.😅

[@paulnorrigan2258]

This battle is very unrealistic. Can’t believe a whole carrier group with full set of aircraft on the aircraft carrier just sat there and never took off. That would never happen. The Hornets never even engaged. Piss poor AI…

[@schlitzy-1031]

Your excitement during this video was contagious!!

[@Brunnen_Gee]

8:45 Well, make me feel old. The SH-60B is the bird I worked on in the navy. It was old even at the turn of the century, when I was working on it. I thought for a second you were talking about the MAD on the side being the Penguin missile.

[@datziklegendz1225]

SIR, CHEERS FROM TEXAS!!!! this was by far THE MOST entertaining thing I've watched in years. Off one video I'm completely invested in your videos 👍 the narration and thought process behind this is madness! 🍻🍻🍻 MATE!

[@spigot993]

I would loved to have seen the TacView of this, would've been spectacular.

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@leonlim007]

Labels made the map view so much more "watchable" - at least now we know what the hell is actually happening~

[@jensjohansson3204]

Kinda interesting to see. Modern naval doctrine has developed to where guns are sort of an after thought since everyone expects missiles and aircraft to end any engagement way before guns come into play. But maybe missile defense has also evolved to the point where guns might be important. I mean, consider what a turret of 460mm guns with modern ballistics computers could have done in the end game here.

[@scotch_mist]

"We're out of ammunition, sir!" "Well... time for a cup of tea. Then we'll board them. Pass out the cutlasses!" "Aye aye, sir! Green or Tetley?"

[@mr.starks]

@40:04 is the ENERGY I luv from your videos. You really have me laughing 😂😂 don't ever change, and that's a horderves!

[@grimreapers]

yes Sir!

[@Wardads1]

Given what we now know and the New Jersey recommisoning time for a rematch.Hard to factor in over a century of US carrier experience and general war fighting expertise vs incompetence and zero experience .

[@Ronin_Gaijin]

I don't know about anyone else, but I'd rather sit down and watch this, than any recent Hollywood movie. Well done Cap and Simba!

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@ericcrook5280]

Love the sound effect sir!!! "My God.. Bzzeurrrrr.. a bzzeeurrrrr..bzzeeurrrrr..bzzeeurrrrr.. boosh" hahahaha I had to roll that back and listen again.. Thanks for the exciting content and love the squad!! I play and I am nowhere near your level. Its so freaking difficult and you make it look so simple.

[@dangelo1289]

it seemed like the british and american ships just were not firing most of the time

[@alinmeleandra3175]

It could be that the red had way to many Anti-Air missiles... I think that Russian doctrine requires that their ships have more missiles but I think there were way to many missiles... Also, some F-35s should have been in stealth mode trying to flank and take out their AWACS and F-18s should have had some at least 2 AMRAAMs and 2 AIM-9X beside the Harpoons... If stealth is not an option for F35s some of them should have some anti-ship bombs or missiles. One more thing, I think that the modern USN CV group no longer uses Perry's. Instead of the Perry's just add one more Burke and one more Ticonderoga. This would have added more Harpoons and more SM2s to the equation and probably would have reduced the overall damage taken by the blues. As far as I know, P700 Granit can not be reloaded during battle so you get a salvo of 20 from Kirov's and that's pretty much it... The Reds had a better strategy also, keeping their Anti-ship jets in reserve until all the blue air defenses where all but depleted...

[@dabo5078]

At the ranges these fleets were forced to deploy in stealth would have been pretty much useless with AWACS and fleet radar cover.

[@zsavage1820]

Cap you are just fine... I'm 62 and I still get excited .. thanks for all the work you put into these videos.. I for one do know that it takes a lot of time, heck, I have missions I have made in ARAM 3 that take me weeks to tweak and get it just right, THANK YOU CAP AND ALL THE GRIM REAPERS FOR GREAT CONTENT YEAR AFTER YEAR!!...

[@grimreapers]

xx

[@nicholashughes8214]

As always exciting and great fun to watch ! Thanks

[@smokeyjoe1034]

Uncle Scam and Queen Lizzard got mauled by a big bear and a big dragon.

[@grimreapers]

:(

[@natalijalaonar8187]

Pretty much. And irl, it wouldn't even get to mauling, they'd be picked off from 500 klicks out :D . Long range Dragon Breath and Bear Claw hehe.

[@smokeyjoe1034]

Lol. That dragon's breath be kickin'.

[@etluxaeterna]

@@natalijalaonar8187 correct. Hypersonic up the ass from very far away

[@timwf11b]

The aircraft numbers seem too low for the number of carriers, esp on the blue side.

[@ridetheapex]

52:41 They have their willys out. Lool That is funny. First time hearing that.

[@thefishstick]

When he's narrating whats going on it reminds me a lot of a football sportscaster. I love it.

[@masonsong5304]

055 destroyer is waaaayyyy better than 052C. 112 VLS versus 48 VLS. Plus the improved electronics and communication systems are great!

[@martinpalmer6203]

Yeah the Type 055 is more closely matched with a Ticonderoga . Not really a Destroyer at all when you look at Size and Tonnage

[@scrambledeggy]

Maybe you could do a free for all, if possible

[@joelk6206]

This

[@CMDRSweeper]

Technically they already did, an equal carrier group on two sides with PvP action and player admirals... Cap's fleet won that one, but they never closed to gun range though.

[@grimreapers]

can try but will be REAL hard for everyone to follow it.

[@angelarch5352]

So exciting loved this! I still say if one side has a human infinite respawn pilot, the other side should also have one. Bring in Cortana!!!

[@pathwaytotruth4371]

Once again great vid cap... And I got my request for all the available carriers in one vid with guns fight... Thanks CAP...

[@grimreapers]

:)

[@MakeItWithJim]

I think this video explains the recent saber rattling in the Pacific!

[@jpaulc441]

CIWS battle at the end sounded like sea monsters fighting

[@julienckjm7430]

They're basically sea monsters alright!😄

[@stephen_101]

Just found your channel - amazing work, thoroughly entertaining. I'm guessing that the sim you use doesn't have submarines available? The subs would have added some extra spice to the grand finale 🔥 Keep up the good work 👍

[@hegemonycricket9549]

Not that either side would ever let their carrier task forces get within gun range in real life, but the missing deciding factor here would have been the subs that most surely would be involved. Fun scenario tho.

[@m.p.yorkesq.5592]

It’s interesting that the Blackhawks landed on destroyers / frigates after delivering their payloads. Is it possible to have each destroyer / frigate start out with an embarked helo, as these are one of their principle ASW / ASuW weapons?

[@grimreapers]

I think it may be yes. Something we all learned today :)

[@grimreapers]

No sadly no submraine warfare in game yet.

[@nichevo1]

@@grimreapers In addition to you believing in the helicopter, what they could have done mid-game was to rescue the downed pilots, if that has application in the game. Why did our aircraft that made it back not refuel and rearm where there is for that matter? Or theirs for that matter? Also, I think that even among standard missile, there are shipped to ship options, in addition to VLS launched tomahawks . That said, it does seem that the American antiship missile selection is not that impressive. Not big and not fast either. Torpedoes would have worked a treat, hence submarines. But if your other F-35s had been able to bomb, or if you had stealth mode working, that seemed to be the key edge early on. Having suppressed all air, a second wave of say four F-35s in beast mode could have swept the red fleet.

[@jaycurtis7093]

There is a lot of mutual respect between pilots, even on opposing factions/countries. At the end of the day, at a neutral airbase after a huge battle and dogfighting....it's not unrealistic that those two would just look at each other and make the universal motion for "let's go have a beer, f*ck this war". @54:27

[@clanc433]

I don't see why the US/UK would fight during the day at all. US ships can easily outrun Chinese fleets while keeping a full time CAP above the CSG, not to mention the attack subs lurking under the surface. Full flight loads with continuous intelligence on the location of enemy fleets, and wing group attacks while well out of VFR, much less in range of enemy guns. The whole reason the carrier took the place of the battleship was because a few aircraft can render them combat ineffective. It's a cool looking battle, but naval guns for surface warfare went out before WWII even ended. The only thing we used big guns for was island bombardment.

[@aricpeterson8987]

Best part of this whole thing is CAP losing his English mind over the PEEN GUE WINS destroying the Battle Cruiser, hahaha! If I could get CAP saying Penguins as my ring tone that'd be great. Awesome video, well done.

[@tomriley5790]

T45s aren't the most powerful destroyers in the world, their air defence radar and Sea Viper are extremely powerful AAW, but they're relatively weak for antisubmarine and Anti Surface warfare.

[@grimreapers]

rgr

[@1IbramGaunt]

@@grimreapers wouldn't say "weak" is the word exactly, it's just not what the ship's speciality is, but with Mk8 guns and twin 30mm along with 8 Harpoons they can certainly still hold their own in most kinds of surface fight a lot better than they were shown doing here, and of course in a realistic fight they'd never get that close anyway; and as for anti-sub work, that's simply a matter of how in the modern Royal Navy that's the job of the frigates, helicopters and our OWN submarines rather than the destroyers. Type 23 Frigates are excellent sub-hunters for example

[@Arvivez]

Well obviously as its an AA destroyer 😂 our frigates and subs are the anti sub deterrent not the type 45 🤷🏻‍♂️.

[@tomriley5790]

@@Arvivez yes my point is there are other destroyers that are almost as capable antiaircraft ships and have much stronger ASW and ASV capabilities. Particularly in ASV - only 4 of them carry the Harpoons which were salvaged from the scrapped T22s and are being removed next year... The RN badly needs some sort of ASV weapon although it's currently looking like it wont get one until the 2030s... if FCASW goes well. Until then the RN will have a hard time sinking ships with anything other than Submarines or brave F35s.

[@raysschoko]

there is an important layer missing with Torpedos! Submarines!

[@kevinAPapaof2]

This was great 👍. Thanks

[@scottnord9602]

Awesome job! First time viewer to your channel