USAF Security Forces EST buiding clearance and room clearing

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Creekd2000

Creekd2000

Күн бұрын

Room to room clearing procedures with the TRF/Security Forces in Cheyenne, Wyoming. This was one of the first runs these guys did. They were used to doing the same thing over and over again so we changed a couple things up. The shoot house had to ability to re-arrange doors and walls so this was the first time they saw a new setup. Being uncomfortable and learning something new is a good thing. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. I understand that this looks like a clusterfuck but how about the first time you tried anything new. I'm sure you weren't great at it. We do not fall to the level of our expectations. We fall to the level of our training.

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@dogsRoxXD
@dogsRoxXD 8 жыл бұрын
I like the part where he ripped off his front grip.
@aidiemacc6360
@aidiemacc6360 12 жыл бұрын
A simple saying to remind you of CQB and to perfect room clearance. "The 4 s's and the A plus the C equals CQB" The 4 s's stand for speed, surprise, smoothness and security. The A means accuracy and the C means communication. These are the basics of CQB.
@Belzer21
@Belzer21 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Its easy to "arm chair Quarterback" these guys. People have no idea what it takes to really work as a team to clear out a building.
@toxickilljoy9037
@toxickilljoy9037 Жыл бұрын
Only faults i could see are the sledge and the door ram. Good job boys. Nice work and good efficiency. Good teamwork, good POD, good cover.
@Phoenix-hz5wl
@Phoenix-hz5wl 4 жыл бұрын
Read the description and actually for a first time and a video like this in general it’s one the better ones I’ve seen from Security Forces
@tonymedrano986
@tonymedrano986 5 ай бұрын
This was actually REALLY good. A lot of videos don’t show this level.
@AirsoftAddicted
@AirsoftAddicted 8 жыл бұрын
There are almost no games that are close to reality, in reality there is no "you are hit, hide to restore health" things as well as the weapon recoil and all that things you need to think about when in real action. You need to handle stress, equipement, create your setup, memorize tons of things, practise your moves to be quiet. If you are asking what games are really good - I remember three great games. Ghost Recon (first one - for nice gameplay with working supressive fire). Rainbow Six Rouge Spear (for scenarios, feel of a team and hard gameplay) and SWAT 3 (for best feel of police unit in action, it's more about saving lives and forcing enemy to surrender instead of just shooting him up). Maybe they are old, but they are really close to reality in their gameplay. Cheers and thanks for nice upload, it's nice to see those guys tighting their skills.
@Belzer21
@Belzer21 8 жыл бұрын
+AirsoftAddicted Thanks man. Its all a learning experience.
@genuinefaux2895
@genuinefaux2895 8 жыл бұрын
AirsoftAddicted this is kind of late, but Arma 3 is pretty good if you have a decent pc
@AirsoftAddicted
@AirsoftAddicted 7 жыл бұрын
MCUser Yea, I love Arma 3. Thanks for info ;-) And it's not as that "PC hardcore" as you may think. Regards, all best.
@raider_militaria
@raider_militaria 5 жыл бұрын
Thats because its nearly impossible to replicate.
@tommylynch8645
@tommylynch8645 8 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised at how fun this actually looks.
@slick556
@slick556 8 жыл бұрын
Crawl, walk, run. This is what happens when you learn to crawl and try to run. Take the sims away from these guys and make them do dry runs until they get it right.
@michaelhart8539
@michaelhart8539 8 жыл бұрын
Three things that could be argued and/or talked about all day long are Polilitics, Religion and Tactics. There is no "One way" to clear a building. As long as what you're doing makes sense, what are your gains and loses, and all of your points are effective and teachable by ALL of your operators. The more that everyone understands what you are trying to achieve, not just going through the motions, the smoother your operations will go.
@DomKirby
@DomKirby 5 жыл бұрын
I mean I agree. But there are some basic rules. Like not stopping in the funnel...
@L30NHART
@L30NHART 10 жыл бұрын
Great job. Don't pay any attention to these guys weak criticism. All these comments or "suggestions" are a bunch of hindsight,20/20 arm chair generals. We hear about that phrase all the time in guardmont, and here it is all over channel comments. I'd like to see these clowns go through your course.
@R3spectTheV3t
@R3spectTheV3t 10 жыл бұрын
flooding rooms with guns is the key along with communication team building and getting that warm and fuzzy takes time , as a 1* you're always an uninvited guest so bring all the friends to the party you can lol
@therealjarett
@therealjarett 10 жыл бұрын
Vertical foregrip? I don't need no stinkin' vertical foregrip!
@thecarlonian
@thecarlonian 9 ай бұрын
Really cool video with good training. I miss the SF brotherhood. DF. ⚡️
@AdamRodriguezio
@AdamRodriguezio 11 жыл бұрын
Other than the guy not being aware the door opened (what looked like; luckily not shot by the killer paint rounds), everything looked good to me. Most important part, to me, was the muzzle awareness, attention to detail and great team work. Nice job gents. ~USMC SSgt
@Belzer21
@Belzer21 12 жыл бұрын
@ryanberger871 These guys were so bad because it was only Day 2 of training. I have videos of when they're actually fully trained and running at full speed but unfortunately my computer took a dump with all those vids. I'm going to look around see if I can find some others.
@Belzer21
@Belzer21 12 жыл бұрын
For everyone who is asking, these guys are using Simunitions with conversion kits on M-4s. And they're only using 9mm Simunitions not the full FX 5.56 metal jackets. If anyone has ever used the 5.56mm then you know that they will literally go through walls because they have so much velocity. Its the USAF so there's alot of safety involved.
@notforactvalues3559
@notforactvalues3559 7 жыл бұрын
nice team work, comunication and surprise
@msjswapnil
@msjswapnil 8 жыл бұрын
COOL..................................... Thanks for the video.
@jacktorrance7639
@jacktorrance7639 10 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thanks for sharing. Nice tips to clearing a rooms
@scnarb
@scnarb 12 жыл бұрын
The military often trains with airsoft, as well as paintballs and once in awhile sim rounds. How do I know? Four years Army Infantry (2-162 Inf, 41st Brigade Combat Team). My unit has used air soft a number of times and paintballs once (a few weeks ago actually) since I've been in. It's the only safe way to do real force on force training.
@mcdonaldmoses4829
@mcdonaldmoses4829 7 жыл бұрын
this is giving away intel, and training tactics.
@danielpickrell8311
@danielpickrell8311 6 жыл бұрын
Lol if anybody learned from this they aren't learning anything. Army Infantry all the way
@fierwall5
@fierwall5 12 жыл бұрын
okay ya that is great Air Force working with the navy we also work with other countries, and i never said that they did strictly stuff with the sea. Also i am glad that they are learning from a seal their room clearing training is hard. He probably had a lot of wisdom to pass on to help make them better at what they will be doing.
@hinext2510
@hinext2510 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for studying!
@TheRealWadeW
@TheRealWadeW 11 жыл бұрын
Spartan, it depends what majcom your assigned to, what base your assigned to and what they're willing to fund. Security forces does everything! From security, law enforcement, ground combat, etc. look into the 820th sec fo squadron. Those are some high speed dudes and get slotted for every school available! Good luck
@Belzer21
@Belzer21 10 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, I appreciate all the comments on my videos. Good bad or indifferent. I currently have a job that doesnt allow me to post videos of our tactics so I was thinking of another way of reaching out to military and veterans. Thinking of posting some COD gameplays. Looking for all or any military/veteran gamers to post their gameplays on my channel. What do you all think? Military and Veteran gamers showing their gaming skills? If you have game that you want to post, let me know.
@1111Tactical
@1111Tactical 10 жыл бұрын
Try Insurgency, that game is great and requires a good deal of realistic tactics for indoor combat.
@AKBAN1990
@AKBAN1990 10 жыл бұрын
Ay, FrankDaTank1218 is right. COD is terrible "military gameplay" (run and gun), just a terrible choice of game to show military tactics. I just started playing Insurgency, bought it today as a matter of fact, and it is beyond excellent. Isn't no ARMA 3, but encourages teamwork to survive, and it has many reality factors that any Xbox "war game" doesn't have. I have a military background and to be honest it's truly challenging. And there are military veterans and active duty that play the game. Definitely look into Insurgency and ARMA 3
@1111Tactical
@1111Tactical 10 жыл бұрын
AKBAN1990 I prefer Arma 3 over insurgency, but Arma is complicated, has a steep learning curve, and takes awhile to learn. Insurgency is as realistic as a game can get while still being easy to pick up and play. Plus, a satisfying Arma 3 session usually takes about an hour at least. You can enjoy Insurgency for short 10-30 minute bursts since rounds don't last that long and aren't as enormous in scale..
@1111Tactical
@1111Tactical 10 жыл бұрын
ryeable No doubt, especially with the new Zeus real-time editor, co-op sessions are now 200% more amazing.
@Belzer21
@Belzer21 10 жыл бұрын
You guys looking for someone to post your gameplay? I can for sure upload on my channel.
@zachrogers9973
@zachrogers9973 10 жыл бұрын
just lingering in the fatal funnel
@flawson27
@flawson27 12 жыл бұрын
M4 carbines, but the barrel and upper receiver are switched out with ones that are compatible with simunation rounds. (Essentially a paint round)
@SuperColonel91
@SuperColonel91 4 жыл бұрын
Looks badass!
@jaxsky8148
@jaxsky8148 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video 👍🏽
@Belzer21
@Belzer21 12 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they're using Simunitions. I think even FX Marking cartridges to be more exact.
@tmoss1900
@tmoss1900 4 жыл бұрын
Too and many chiefs not enough Indian's, but all in all good communication and team work!
@Belzer21
@Belzer21 12 жыл бұрын
I also appreciate everyone's comments. From the bad to the good ones. There was alot that these guys took away from their training and they watched the same videos that you guys are watching to find ways to correct themselves. You fall to the level of your training not to the level of your expectations.
@aaron4820
@aaron4820 12 жыл бұрын
I'm fairly sure these aren't simunition, but rather rap4 paintball guns, you can see that the buffer tube is very large on some guns, which is where the 5oz co2 tank goes into, and the shells sound plasticky as they hit the ground, oh and the clear magazine. Also the lack of paint marks can be explained by the use of training rounds, which are basically mini-bouncy balls, probably for ease of cleaning.
@bamboo5640
@bamboo5640 11 жыл бұрын
Being a Brit I always wonder why you funnel more than two guys into the room? The first officer into the room doesn't enter looking through /above his sighting system. We have been taught to try and do most of our fighting from outside the room... Any views.... I'm here to learn..
@DomKirby
@DomKirby 5 жыл бұрын
When the first man in the stack just stops and leave everyone else stuck in a perfect fucking line for the bad guy to kill the shit out of them, you realize you're watching the extra special SF at work.
@burtturdison4445
@burtturdison4445 4 жыл бұрын
The don't slice the hard corners. Chances are high to get shot in the back that way. Also, some stand in the way awkwardly.
@scottnelson007nelson8
@scottnelson007nelson8 7 жыл бұрын
very impressive guys
@stefanblandin
@stefanblandin 12 жыл бұрын
Untrained as they are, this is the baddest ass thing I've seen in a while. I want to do this part of the course.
@imbeastly126
@imbeastly126 13 жыл бұрын
not on army standards but i give them credit. good job.
@6Officialmusicpage
@6Officialmusicpage 8 жыл бұрын
flagging not clering corners....way to go
@bbaker4117
@bbaker4117 9 жыл бұрын
Are these guys 820th? I was 823 until Oct 2006 and for years there was always talk of us getting our own MOUT site at Moody so we didn't have to go all the way down to Camp Blanding.
@Belzer21
@Belzer21 8 жыл бұрын
+Khal Brogo No, TRF on FE Warren.
@scnarb
@scnarb 12 жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised you used the muzzle up holding method with a SEAL leading. That seems to be the typically preferred method for SEALs. whatever works I don't do that but it's a technique.
@Belzer21
@Belzer21 12 жыл бұрын
we go muzzles up instead of "low ready" or "high ready" because you can't flag anyone with your weapon this way and if you happen to stumble and fall you'll fall with the weapon infront of you and you'll be "on-line". If you're running around at low-ready and you fall, you would literally fall on top of your gun.
@SpyOpz94
@SpyOpz94 12 жыл бұрын
So awesome!
@Tiger42s
@Tiger42s 4 жыл бұрын
Training makes perfect. Ppl act like ooooo they suck. Even navy seals were beginners at one point
@cueballhallful
@cueballhallful 12 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you train with them, maybe you could give them a few pointers that you learned while playing video games as that is the only video that you have posted. I,m sure that you have quite a bit of experience and skill.
@thedude4795
@thedude4795 9 жыл бұрын
thats got to be fun
@XXTruthSeeker
@XXTruthSeeker 11 жыл бұрын
nice video,i believe a good way to counter this room breach is to keep the entrance suppressed
@WolvesBehindMe1
@WolvesBehindMe1 12 жыл бұрын
i like that i see the magpul thumb break method being used. and Holy shit that's a lot of guys clearing a room! The team I'm on does 4 man max, idk if I could handle that :p
@Alexn1067
@Alexn1067 12 жыл бұрын
that looks like really good training, room clearing is very tough and complicated.....split second decisions, coupled with a vast array of unknown layouts and etc....just nasty....one of those things where you just have to practice and practice to improve....even then there are no guarantees that shit will go smoothly
@Clonecommando0071
@Clonecommando0071 12 жыл бұрын
It's the military police component of the USAF, which performs the same duties as the RAF Regiment.
@rupin
@rupin 12 жыл бұрын
It would be so cool to see the difference :)
@SpartanW98
@SpartanW98 11 жыл бұрын
Hey how did you like security forces? I got low ASVAB scores and my recruiter suggested this and made it sound all cool but I hear its nothing but boring and no combat. What do you think?
@Metalkind1
@Metalkind1 13 жыл бұрын
Sooo can't wait for this
@TankCatIntoMordor
@TankCatIntoMordor 11 жыл бұрын
How good as sim as a training tool!? I think the next step would be teaching some transition shooting, its awesome to see how sim lays waste to conventional drills. Good comms
@triggerfingas
@triggerfingas 13 жыл бұрын
Security forces baby!!!! damn i miss room clearing
@R3spectTheV3t
@R3spectTheV3t 10 жыл бұрын
oh and not taking to much time in hallways and small rooms/ corridors, flow like water room to room. at the end of the day get everyone home safe including yourself.
@joshanderson3315
@joshanderson3315 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Creekd. Ive been thinking about joining the SF. Is it worth it?
@Belzer21
@Belzer21 11 жыл бұрын
Hit or miss bro. I spent 3 years in Vegas at Nellis AFB doing a boring job, then went to Germany and got to see the world. But then I ended up at Whiteman AFB in Missouri which is like the butthole of America. However, at Whiteman I deployed twice, once to Doha, Qatar and I even did a little stint in Camp Lemonier in Ethiopia. Just like any job in the world, its what you make it.
@Mr-Not-Applicable
@Mr-Not-Applicable 3 жыл бұрын
The only downside was the poor camera angles. I suggest multi cam to show positioning/angles of different team members as they enter a room.
@SamoanSap
@SamoanSap 13 жыл бұрын
Is this at a base or is this apart of 343rd trainning these days?
@djyankeenyc
@djyankeenyc 12 жыл бұрын
Just a thought but how affect do you think you would be if perhaps you did fall and your weapons in the air.... heres a thought if your going to fall you know your going to fall and if your going to fall normally you will go foward. heres something if its low ready and you fall foward you can do something call a combat roll to where ya weapon is sill close to your body and you can sill pop up on a knee or pop up and still be able to put that weapon down in front of you to lay down lead
@imasofunnyulaughnow
@imasofunnyulaughnow 13 жыл бұрын
awesome can't wait to be here =D
@jeromesteijger8214
@jeromesteijger8214 8 жыл бұрын
wow i want to subscribe!
@TorturedXeno
@TorturedXeno 13 жыл бұрын
What are these boys using? Simunitions? Paintball?
@TreeFiddyHD
@TreeFiddyHD 13 жыл бұрын
awesome
@EvilPaintballer
@EvilPaintballer 2 жыл бұрын
5:13 Hooligan tool spike facing right in the back of the guys head.... Guess they're not friends LOL
@christopherhoffman2560
@christopherhoffman2560 9 жыл бұрын
that's room clearing, some complex rooms
@touggie2000
@touggie2000 8 жыл бұрын
I usually try not to comment too much on these military bids. dont want to sound like 90% of the viewers who comment acting like they know it all. but just my observation these guy look sloppy. seen way more smoother efficient drills. this doesn't look lethal or precise.
@Belzer21
@Belzer21 8 жыл бұрын
+touggie2000 Yeah, they were super sloppy but you gotta remember that these guys are all pretty much just normal base cops. Its tough to practice 24/7 and get the required training all the time. Plus, trying to hit that infamous 10,000 hour rule is basically impossible if this isn't your primary job.
@touggie2000
@touggie2000 8 жыл бұрын
+Creekd2000 lol OK cool hey thanks man! I not a expert but I knew something was wrong when I watch videos of seals, other special ops and some federal agencies then come across this. in was like oookkkk lol. like seals for example you rarely him the saying anything when you see them practice room clearing is like they just already know! or use telepathy lol. but I also understand most seal missions are clandestine and "quiet". wasn't to sure who or what these guys were here in this video. thanks for your response and clearing that up! peace!
@ibhopirlwhocares6654
@ibhopirlwhocares6654 7 жыл бұрын
for me its the 1hour or never rule
@davidcollins6164
@davidcollins6164 7 жыл бұрын
they look really bored
@zachkellett8209
@zachkellett8209 7 жыл бұрын
touggie2000 that's what training is for. It's so they can improve on these skills and be more smooth eventually
@Gunnar001
@Gunnar001 9 жыл бұрын
0:23 Isn't the man in the corner kinda exposed to both the hallway and the room when the door is bashed open?
@Gunnar001
@Gunnar001 9 жыл бұрын
ryeable Hmm. That is...unfortunate.
@i.MissYou777
@i.MissYou777 7 жыл бұрын
Aww that's so cute!
@archaeologistify
@archaeologistify 12 жыл бұрын
If I may, i would sugest you to learn left-hand weapon holding. Right hand holding is not good for front-right corner. When someone clears room I am in, in airsoft, he many times fails because i see his left shoulder before he can aim at me.
@INEDDANSWERS227
@INEDDANSWERS227 10 жыл бұрын
Don't cross open door unless you have no choice and NEVER stand in front of a open door
@Belzer21
@Belzer21 12 жыл бұрын
Also, the guy leading this training was a Navy SEAL. And its SEAL (Sea Air and Land). They're not Navy water animals (seals).
@magnesiumoar9644
@magnesiumoar9644 8 жыл бұрын
How come these guys never shoot lefty when peeking the left side of a wall? Wouldn't that be a more efficient use of cover?
@stevensmith7406
@stevensmith7406 8 жыл бұрын
only when your efficient with shooting on both sides, but we'd rather expose a bit more to get a good shot instead of staying hidden popping off bad shots. being that our job is asset and personnel protection, every shot we take is accounted for.
@Gattobuono
@Gattobuono 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, where can I get one of those caps with the visor at the back like they're wearing in this video. In the shops I can only find them with the visor at the front.
@surfcrazy1
@surfcrazy1 7 жыл бұрын
Wow... The guy with the breacher will break his wrists hitting it from that side.
@piotrsmietaniak2012
@piotrsmietaniak2012 6 жыл бұрын
why not cleaning behind shield ? its more heavy but save and effective
@kroteTV
@kroteTV 8 жыл бұрын
why did these guys take off the back post to their iron sights? faster target acquisition?
@chasemckissick6142
@chasemckissick6142 8 жыл бұрын
Because they're POGs. Those training weapons probably gather a lot of dust
@PotHat
@PotHat 9 жыл бұрын
*swish swish* *tick tick tack* I don't think he hears us guys xD
@poolee77
@poolee77 12 жыл бұрын
Is muzzle up an AF thing? I've never seen that before
@nisher15
@nisher15 12 жыл бұрын
There also a Chance of getting "caught up" on the guy infront of you if you need to raise your weapon. Look at 1:10 and visualize if the guy was low ready and brought it up.
@druxfilms
@druxfilms 10 жыл бұрын
Way to many people in 1 room, need to keep stack 6 to have doorguard, backguard, and 4 entry(can devide into 2x2). There getting too bunched up from 6+ people in 1 room. Other than that, nothing else I noticed except for a few guys are riding the sights(staying aimed looking down a hall, they could be at high ready to have a wider range of view.) Good job guys, Great video, and thanks for your service.
@lamasquad4737
@lamasquad4737 10 жыл бұрын
i dont think they meant to have every one enter the room at once. it was the only way to get through to the next room and entry point.
@scoby41
@scoby41 10 жыл бұрын
That's not the biggest issue. Once you gain entry and shots are fired, you need to continue following. They stood there for WAY too long. If anything, the second team should have flowed right through and continued to clear once the initial room was clear. It all takes time and lots of practice. You'll eventually get to the point where you don't have to say anything and everything becomes automatic.
@aidiemacc6360
@aidiemacc6360 10 жыл бұрын
Scott B Its all down to communication. If you don't have the communication you're going to have hiccups like that. Communication is so important in CQB.
@lamasquad4737
@lamasquad4737 10 жыл бұрын
then again guys they are training, you learn from their mistakes.
@nekrobillyhenry666
@nekrobillyhenry666 8 жыл бұрын
some of you dudes need to learn how to cut the pie and practice shooting lefty.... good teamwork and aggressive forward movement. 👍
@ItalianAvalanche
@ItalianAvalanche 11 жыл бұрын
I think the military should have equal size teams scrimmage against each other in shoot houses with objectives like hostage rescue or capture the flag with time scores. Thoughts?
@Waynside
@Waynside 12 жыл бұрын
I joined in vermont today! GO GREEN MOUNTAIN BOYS!
@vic09x
@vic09x 6 жыл бұрын
Hi everyone, i'm watching SWAT the TV series and i've seen that often when clearing a room they say "give me a two" and then all come screaming "two" behing the first guy clearing... Does anyone know what that means or if its a tactic to search it? Just curious because they do it often and i don't get it... Thanks!
@sher_khan6717
@sher_khan6717 8 жыл бұрын
Nice
@FormerDeathMachine
@FormerDeathMachine 12 жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting way to do it but i like it. First two guys button hook and every guy after does a cross-over. No hating here. Semper.
@nanakon28
@nanakon28 10 жыл бұрын
Any reason behind removing the foregrip in the beginning by that guy after entering the room?
@scoby41
@scoby41 10 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine that it came loose?
@kurf4122
@kurf4122 10 жыл бұрын
Notice how it pushed forward as he walked forward, it came loose.
@ah7622
@ah7622 12 жыл бұрын
Are those air soft guns?
12 жыл бұрын
3:36 "The Thing" was there!!!!!!!
@NonstopWolf14
@NonstopWolf14 12 жыл бұрын
is this the us version of the raf regiment
@SH52697
@SH52697 12 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking of joining the Air Force after high school. How it really like to be in the security forces?
@cptromero5595
@cptromero5595 12 жыл бұрын
is this the airforce? i see ABU camo
@AntiFox08
@AntiFox08 11 жыл бұрын
I'm no expert, but I think the guy in front of the door endangered himself. I've heard of too many stories of men breaching, whether Marines, Army, or AFSF, and being mowed down by an AK instantly. It would be a godsend if they had riot shields, though I realize they aren't that simple to carry into a battlefield.
@x01basterLP
@x01basterLP 6 жыл бұрын
What kind of weaponsystem they use for the training in the video?
@EpicCygnus
@EpicCygnus 5 жыл бұрын
they're using m4s with a modified upper receiver so it shoots 9mm paint rounds with less power. Its basically a super realistic paintball gun.
@shanehoward4197
@shanehoward4197 5 жыл бұрын
All this to check ID's at the gate?
@Belzer21
@Belzer21 11 жыл бұрын
This was at FE Warren in Wyoming.
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