MOS 12W: Carpentry and Masonry Specialist.

[@nathanhiller3669]

I would honestly argue this is the most useful mos for life after the millitary

[@marlonmoncrieffe0728]

All jobs in the engineering and logistics branches have useful civilian application.

[@professorpick]

did you do it? my family's business is in real estate and I wanted to get into construction and architecture to support the business

[@yairnavarrete4553]

Yea you still have toys but bow to build hahaha 😂

[@waterbornesapper7953]

⁠@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 I have to disagree with you there. 12B and 12C, we usually don’t find related work in the civilian world. 12D, 12K, 12M, 12N and 12W have the best chance at finding related work in the civilian world. The rest of us engineers (especially combat) tend to struggle.

[@jaredellerbeck7319]

I've been doing this for 17 years. I had no idea the military had a branch for this. That's badass

[@jaredellerbeck7319]

@pope I'm 40 lol

[@godsway8501]

Is it possible to make more than 6 figures doing this work?!?!?

[@juliantorres5138]

@@godsway8501 yes but not while your in the army. most of the people that work in carpentry and masonry outside of the army still don't make over 6. most of them don't even make six figures. the only time you MAY make over six figures in these trades is owning your own company' and even still majority of those company owners don't make that much.

[@joshuaramirez8102]

this is the easiest job i picked

[@evankhan1952]

I just enlisted with this MOS a couple weeks ago. Continues to look promising and useful in my personal life for DIY projects.

[@Professional_street_hustler]

Is it high demand or did you have to wait for it

[@juliantorres5138]

updates??

[@evankhan1952]

@@juliantorres5138 update: the MOS is great and I'm about half way through the training. I have the highest GPA in my class at a 98.30% so it's not that difficult with minor studying. There is more math than most would expect though, even outside of obvious measurements so be prepared for that. There is a significant waiting line though which is the worst part. I was stuck here in Gulfport Mississippi for 5 weeks before my classes started which threw off my personal and professional life off by a bit

[@juliantorres5138]

@@evankhan1952 I am considering enlisting in this mos because I am graduating from a vocational high school this year and I was in the carpentry shop. I've also always wanted to join the army so I get the best of both worlds. thanks for the updates brother! good luck

[@PapaPerk360]

How is it now ?

[@destinygo4616]

Just graduated as a 12w! 7 quick but stressful weeks. But so proud I passed every test and lab! I love building

[@RachelEiland83]

My son is thinking about enlisting in this program. Will he train in Gulfport, Mississippi and live on the base there?

[@destinygo4616]

@@RachelEiland83 yes.

[@marlonmoncrieffe0728]

How are you liking your M.O.S.? Are you active duty?

[@oreozzz012]

Any advice and tips? This is what I picked for my MOS, 12W. I ship out for BCT after holiday block leave

[@touchd_dwn_n88panthergod4]

Seabees!!!

[@heimirjosefsson510]

Found this by accident. But as an Icelandic carpenter apprentice I say thank you to these guys for providing safety to the western world.

[@BrokenskullRaps]

To be honest if your someone who would never see themselves doing construction in their life do this. It gets you skills that are hard to come by and your serving your country doing super hooah hooah stuff. I’ve been in 6 years now about to deploy and so glad I did this mos. I learned valuable skills and I wanna go back to AIT to learn more. It’s awesome and I love this field hands down.

[@victorchozen4205]

I want to crosstrain Into this. Currently a lab tech, I want to learn this though

[@BrokenskullRaps]

@@victorchozen4205 definitely worth the time and learning, your gonna get alot what you put in and its pretty awesome no lie.

[@vce.john1734]

Acomplex do you have to go basic training like the Marines does or it just different I either want to this or construction unless it same thing I don’t mind either one

[@BrokenskullRaps]

Loudmanv8 all military branches have a form of boot camp in the army we call it basic combat training or bct. Yeah you still have to go to boot camp or basic training for any job in any military branch. There are some specialized ones that don’t require it but I’m not sure atm.

[@marlonmoncrieffe0728]

I decided on CBRN Specialist (74D) but I was seriously considering this MOS exactly because of the amazing skills you learn and can apply in the civilian world.

[@NH3rdVariety]

Definitely a fun time when I was training. Not so much when I wasn't. If you do decide to go 12W, your AIT will be fun as long as you make friends and play nice. You might be there a little longer than 7 weeks though.

[@SoccerFanatic22]

Where would AIT be? This is my MOS.

[@NH3rdVariety]

@@SoccerFanatic22 NCBC Gulfport, Mississippi

[@SoccerFanatic22]

Is this an easy MOS to learn without background knowledge in construction?

[@benjaminharrison3079]

Do you enjoy the Mos Now? Do you learn to draw up blue prints?

[@simplylearning25]

Only 23 right now but have been framing houses for about 3 1/2 years now. And I never knew this was available for the army. Seriously considering enlisting.

[@abyjupinor3925]

I’m 17 gonna grad soon and been thinking of this.

[@ady_booth]

do it

[@chief5981]

Did you do it?

[@Apina79]

@@abyjupinor3925 Do the 20 or 25 years and retire. You are still "young" and most of world you can live with that money doing just your hobbies and enjoy life. Maybe not in usa but most countries in europe you have good life.

[@Ricardorhino88]

​@@Apina79do 25 years in the military? The minimum now is 6

[@beatndagutta]

Ohhhh shittttt my man TALLEY!!! Go hard bro!! Solid leader. These soldiers Couldn't ask for a leader!!!

[@nmelkhunter1]

This is a great MOS if you would like to pay for college and earn a degree in construction management or civil engineering since hands on the ground experience is invaluable. Another great route would be to enlist in this MOS and then the go into ROTC after your enlistment is up and major in construction management or civil engineering and try to branch 12A. A project manager I work with did this while earning a construction management degree and is highly respected in his field.

[@NLYS27]

I grew doing this profession as a child in the early 2000s. In a real mans culture you start learning traits and skills so by the time you graduate middle school. You can star working towards your future. The grades where not important but the grasping of the material was because it relates to the reality. My family trade was carpentry and masonry. We built our own homes, barns sheds, and garages. I choose infantry since it was my natural calling but this MOS is a 1:1 to the real world and the personal projects you can do is amazing.

[@bloody_nips1328]

I'm currently enrolled in the Job corps and hope to find a job in the workforce, but if I can't, I feel a lot better that I can get more training and become more knowledgeable in an area that I plan to work in. Thank you for the informational video, Helps a lot.

[@pedromorales8097]

Don't know if you already did this but I became or will be becoming a national guard solider with this MOS while also going to job corps to be a carpenter in the union

[@bloody_nips1328]

@@pedromorales8097 Hi I just wanted to inform you that, I am currently in Job Corps and only need around 4 more months of training than I'll be a certified carpenter.

[@GabrielRuiz702]

I would love this MOS, I joined the carpentry field right away after high school

[@jamaljones8662]

I currently work as a bricklayer and this is something I want to do. I've been researching a lot.

[@penitusoculatusagent8725]

Go for it

[@aCtHype]

Did you do it

[@jamaljones8662]

@@aCtHype nope! Not worth it for what I'm looking for out of life. I'm not built for the military.

[@mischievousjr.9299]

@@jamaljones8662 dang really

[@sherkiaprather9273]

I have a background in medical and that’s actually gonna be my job when I sign and enlist but I always wanted to build things as a hobby and teach my son as well as have a side hustle and it’s hard trying to find somewhere that teaches carpentry so I really hope I can get this job

[@JD-go2qj]

I never knew this was something you could do in the military

[@RogerMoonking]

Infinite possibilities.

[@Robert-tf3ch]

yea I am going today to see about this mos!

[@aCtHype]

Jobs for everything

[@morningTCG]

Can’t believe SFC Chapman is still there. Great leader

[@samuelestevez6535]

Wait what?

[@morningTCG]

@@samuelestevez6535 what so confusing

[@brenthughes8132]

He was my instructor, he left some time in 2020, and was my platoon sergeant at Fort Stewart GA

[@Manuelabor1978]

That is so awesome. If I knew that back when I was a teenager. My life would be a tad better. Whole lot better actually

[@tyhoffman1720]

There's so many jobs in the Army. Find something that will help you when you get out. Have that plan. Nothing wrong with what you want to do.

[@marlonmoncrieffe0728]

Yeah, I have a job in the 88 series but wish I had selected one in the 12 series.

[@reaperelecti490]

Been doing this in the civilian world for about 10 years now. Currently in the process of enlisting myself with the army. Highly intrigued that they have a designated mos. But I'm trying to do something different like 31k. But might go with 31b if I can't land the kilo

[@chief5981]

Yo!! Those dogs are ferocious 😱

[@devontacarter8356]

I’m currently on my 6th year in the reserves as a 92G & my contract is about to end. I want to sign a 2 yr active contract and reclass to a 12w so I can move into this occupation when my I move back into the civilian side.

[@akilbennett72]

Lmao I didn’t expect to see myself in this video thought never thought it would make it in a recruiting video

[@gios8972]

If I can't land 1 of the combat mos jobs I'm just going with this since I'm already familiar with construction.

[@yaboiicj5912]

12n or 12v

[@yairnavarrete4553]

These should be the comercial for Christmas

[@leonardomolina7109]

Thankfully I do construction and want to do this.

[@jezzestanley2944]

Whats the minimum amount of years you can serve in the U.S Army?

[@jamescooper4108]

2 years but it's only for certain mos most are typically 4 yr contracts

[@JCarterDammit]

Some are 3

[@Robert-tf3ch]

just do a 4, man it's what you make it.

[@69in89]

I somehow got a 3 year and 5 month contract

[@LukeniV]

Would you recommend for someone who want end up in real estate development ?

[@Jay-s8x7f]

If I’am not a FreeMason - can I have military FreeMason gear on my vehicle ? For instance, on Amazon there is a coin/emblem with “FreeMasons Support troops with five different branches “. Can I have that on my vehicle as a military veteran, but as a non- mason ? Thanks

[@legioxequestris811]

Every soldier should be able to do construction work

[@justingohs1922]

When you're in a video and didn't even know it 0:47

[@gricellyb]

How was your experience?

[@diegodelapuente1665]

That was you battle?

[@largealmond3085]

Does this MOS require a minimum 5 year service contract like it does for seabees?

[@macchiato1627]

No I'm currently in this MOS and I have a 4 year contract

[@dylanporter6980]

@@macchiato1627 how much of this is focused on masonry

[@dylanporter6980]

@@macchiato1627 want to do it but not into carpentry part wanna lay brick

[@macchiato1627]

@@dylanporter6980 Not much. You'll do one lab on masonry that'll last a couple days in AIT. Right now though I'm on a job site that's mostly masonry. Definitely do waaaaay more carpentry on average though

[@cyrusthegreat7472]

@@macchiato1627 Someone with zero experience can be able to do AIT? I am very willing to learn.

[@velez910]

whydont we use the core for infastruture construtions like power and roads. we already pay for personel and training.

[@lelandgaunt9985]

The corp of engineers does get infrastructure jobs, the states department of transportation takes care of bridges and roads a majority of the time.

[@LukeniV]

What’s the schedule like? Trying to somewhat be present for my kids without doing crazy overtime

[@Mcdeditzz]

I want to do this. So this would basically be my 9-5 jobs in the army?

[@marlonmoncrieffe0728]

Yes, exactly.

[@playboilonzo1724]

Definitely doing this for my second enlistment! 13B right now because I wanted to get the taste of shooting cannons and excitement, but I know this MOS doesn’t translate well into the civilian life 🤷🏽‍♂️💯

[@charlesmichaelschmitt6412]

I did this in Ft Leonardwood in Sep 1992 went active in 1994 and was told this job is only for reserves.

[@lelandgaunt9985]

Anyone can get 12W it is not a restricted job for reserves like the quarry specialist.

[@alexhernandez1473]

Do I get lesss training if I’m certified for carpentry ? I went to job corps and I’m about to finish in 5 month not sure if I should leave and join or wait and finish so I do no training

[@JNuque]

If you were to go through RASP as a 12W, would you see any sort of combat? I do know that the regiment is primarily based around Infantry (11 Series), but I couldn't find any concrete answers on this question.

[@austinmiller9054]

Josh N probably not man. Sorry. But maybe. In my experience, Support MOSs, like engineers, were used a lot just for training missions. But it’s the place to be for sure. A lot of training and money to support training so you’ll get a lot more exposure and experience than you would in the big army.

[@ChandlerBeastmoments]

Austin Miller so as a 12w, you wouldn’t see much combat?

[@Who2Rawww]

SOLOGAMERX1 not unless you’re attached to a combat unit or SF or rangers like he said . Which u might but your job is to build not to be in combat

[@anthonybourdain2213]

SOLOGAMERX1 they are getting rid of this MOS anyways since all structures are built by airforce or third party

[@Robert-tf3ch]

@@anthonybourdain2213 when did you hear that I was talking to a recruiter in December this was available? No the army still has them so does the rangers... 😐😐😐

[@angelochoa6572]

I’m really thinking If I should choose this

[@ElMesiasel]

Did you ever do it?

[@josecastaneda7158]

So what if I'm a concrete Forman and want to join? is there a bonus or do i get to start at a higher rank? Im joining soon i took the asvab and got a 62 on it but if my skills arent going to help me get a better job then im going with a different job and starting from scratch

[@dragster9886]

I dont think they would offer you anything extra unless you have a college degree jrotc eagle scout etc. Have you considered aviation? i've been a 15u Chinook Mechanic for 5 years now, and it's a pretty easy job, not too many ftx, etc. downfall is a 6 year contract, so if you hate it, you're stuck for a while. Good luck with whatever you choose.

[@dannyboy536]

Are you guys using the metric system in construction?

[@DarkArmyStudios]

Lol I do concrete work I wonder if they get yelled at the same "HIGH MUD!! PULL IT BACK!! HIGH MUD!! HIGH MUD!!!!"

[@justingohs4085]

Not in ait but yes when u get to your unit

[@taylorkirkendall315]

Fixing to reclass into this does anyone have any helpful study materials that would help ease the transition?

[@jonathangoerke1485]

Tm 3-34.47 Watch KZbin videos on wall framing and rafters

[@taylorkirkendall315]

@@jonathangoerke1485 thank you kindly

[@geralyncomahig8162]

Im 15 yrs old and i really want this job when im old enough but i think here in the philippines, this kind of job is not on the course

[@TheOfficialDuckGang]

I want to join the army to become a carpenter/masonry specialist. Still don't know If I want to do active duty or part-time, but I was wondering if anyone knows if you can start working after AIT school (thats if I do partime) or if you have to get an apprenternship at a union. Does becoming a specialist through the army make you certified or do you need more schooling? And if anyone has tips that would be nice.

[@dragster9886]

Late response, but my guess is they give you the skills to do it but no certification. My job, for example, requires an A&P license in the civilian world to work on aircraft. The army sends us through ait, and when you're done, they let you work on military helicopters but no real certs just experience.

[@Samson-dn4eo]

does anybody know if you can be part of this training if you are an officer in the military?

[@lelandgaunt9985]

No

[@Channelslayer33]

Does this mos learn any electricity as well?

[@marlonmoncrieffe0728]

Probably some but electrical work is the domain of 12Rs.

[@robmckay5700]

Who does the plumbing and electrical?

[@marlonmoncrieffe0728]

12K and 12R

[@alvarorengifo9982]

Can I apply to this job if I´m colorblind?

[@Robert-tf3ch]

I don't see why not but I will tell you this, I know alot of guys in the trade that are color blind and they work With electricity hahah😂

[@lelandgaunt9985]

No

[@lewistasso8866]

Ahh...I wonder if this MOS has Army personnel working with SeaBees and Red Horse??

[@Jshao.xd.]

Does this MOS get paid good in the civilian world?

[@marlonmoncrieffe0728]

YES, as the trades are BEGGING for people!

[@terrelldawkins8561]

Does anyone know how often active duty soldiers deploy with this MOS?

[@jbgrfx7910]

Rarely from what I've heard

[@terrelldawkins8561]

@@jbgrfx7910 I’ve heard the same. Just wanted to be sure

[@jbgrfx7910]

@@terrelldawkins8561 my unit (760th) deployed 2 years ago. Went to Africa. Won't deploy again for 6 years

[@benjaminharrison3079]

@@jbgrfx7910 is 12W your MOS? If so, do you learn to draft or use auto cad?

[@lelandgaunt9985]

@@benjaminharrison3079 12W’s do not touch autocad, any “drafting” they do will be quick field sketches. For that days work.

[@alexanderroblero396]

How much do they pay for doing this Job?

[@Channelslayer33]

If I did this in the national guard, would I be sent overseas ?

[@marlonmoncrieffe0728]

If they needed an emergency number of extra troops, ANY National Guardsman in ANY job would be drafted. But since we are not at war, that won't be happening anytime soon.

[@kayp4601]

I did NG annual training in the Dominican Republic and in Belize with this MOS. I deployed to Iraq and didn’t do my MOS in Iraq. I was cross trained to do detainee operations and guard prisoners.

[@robbieslater4370]

Why isn't this MOS still labelled 51B ?

[@kayp4601]

It’s in the engineer field

[@SoccerFanatic22]

Is AIT still in Gulfport, Mississippi?

[@jbgrfx7910]

Yes it is

[@tiernanwearen9499]

So just say I pass basic training how do I apply for this unit?

[@Joeqbigmackman76]

You don’t apply, your drill sergeant will tell you where you’re going

[@tiernanwearen9499]

@@Joeqbigmackman76 how do you get assigned to the different units?

[@Robert-tf3ch]

@@tiernanwearen9499 you pick your MOS, win you sign up bro.

[@dylanporter6980]

@@Joeqbigmackman76 do you mean carpentry side / mason side

[@user-fi7lo2gw1o]

Can someone tell me if this MOS can help me to become an Architect?

[@lelandgaunt9985]

No

[@airmoccasins]

How difficult is it to get into this mos?

[@nateangell9671]

Not many open slots, it's a pretty small mos field

[@edwardissler6458]

JManGaming1015 will you pass by with basic math?

[@edwardissler6458]

JManGaming1015 alright thanks for the help

[@airmoccasins]

Taking heavy mathematics this sumester, thanks guys

[@victorchozen4205]

@@airmoccasins you can also try to go navy or airforce for this as well

[@brettsmith5712]

Where is basic at for this MOS

[@marvinrosales7899]

Gulfport Mississippi I’m going there after basic in august

[@edsonpereira3896]

Most likely ft Leonard wood

[@lelandgaunt9985]

Your basic could be at any base that has basic training.

[@SoccerFanatic22]

@@marvinrosales7899 is AIT for this MOS still in Gulfport?

[@marvinrosales7899]

@@SoccerFanatic22 ya it is I was there October -December of last year I was on holds for 5 weeks before starting class

[@PapaPerk360]

What she say at the end?

[@marlonmoncrieffe0728]

ESSAYONS

[@BRSoficial2023]

where do I apply

[@marlonmoncrieffe0728]

At your nearest army recruiting station!

[@chuckiepeoples]

It blows my mind that people join the military to do everyday, outside-the-military jobs that they could get on the outside to make way more money.

[@badgerattoadhall]

In the past these jobs in the army were largely taken by a youth in a desolate area that just had to get away from that area as soon as finishing high school.

[@RoaminRomenn]

It’s hard getting hired on

[@VictorHernandez-ox5dc]

How much do you get paid for doing this type of job in there

[@nicholaswarner4751]

you get paid based off of your rank

[@penitusoculatusagent8725]

Everyone gets paid off rank

[@Codename22]

They don’t have the proper Ppe

[@a.jacksonhivecollection4205]

What if I’m horrible at math lol

[@la551]

I think what you can do is study a lot of math and take online classes

[@2Kprotected]

Awwww so they know how to build homes huh? 🤔

[@timothydfrank1991]

7 week class? Wtf

[@justingohs1922]

You'll be there longer than 7 weeks but yes it is a short AIT

[@skeletala]

You go to military so you can learn how to build houses? 🤣

[@scifitoilet]

definitely can help transition to civilian life