USCCA v. AOR: Great YouTuber War of 2025

[@Mrgunsngear]

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[@paulstoyek381]

Same here..😂😂

[@FluffyBunnyArsenal]

I'm just here to read the comments!😂

[@jameswhitaker1324]

I follow both Braden Langley and Dan at heavy duty country. They’re both kind of drama queens. Braden is grating and unfunny most of the time and addicted to his cliches, but has informative content. Dan is entertaining, but mostly just a lot of macho. Personally, if I had to choose a debate winner in this argument, it would be Dan. I don’t think I’ll drop either channel unless this drama Queen show continues. I live in a state that has only one option, AOR. I’m a little concerned with the owners statements on gun rights and from what I’ve seen, it seems that he doesn’t really believe self defense is a human right, if he thinks that an HOA(of all things) should be able to bar the 2a or if he thinks that any given community could choose to do the same. I’ll be looking forward to hearing his clarifications. I, too, have had dumb views in the past. Uscca was out of the question when they dropped Kayla Giles. She may be guilty of premeditated murder, I get that, but I think that USCCA was contractually obligated to defend her. And they didn’t. That’s a hard pass for me. Still, it’s a going business and they have a right to advertise and sponsor channels and content creators have a right to accept that sponsorship.

[@boldie24]

USCCA, and all others, provide self defense insurance/coverage, not murder insurance.

[@neilkratzer3182]

Problem when they dropped her she was not convicted of murder. You need to watch the Supreme court justices on this case.​@boldie24

[@RTACDaughters]

Lets be honest here uscca shit in their mess kit.

[@Unknown-qp9ur]

Notice how there is no insurance for any other activity that could result in criminal charges. They didn't screwup, insurance is not the correct thing in these situations.

[@bigretardhalo]

@@Unknown-qp9ur - we don't have car insurance??

[@travisweldmaster7815]

Definitely but at least they didn't roll with gun grabbers, it's traitors and liars or just liars...

[@bhujbalsinghyadav]

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[@venomgt7299]

I dropped USCCA months ago once they dropped Giles and Colie. AOR offers so much more. Of course USCCA will give you a free range bag just wont provide you with representation when needed. AOR all day for me

[@MarcVictorAttorneyForFreedom]

Thank you!

[@venomgt7299]

@MarcVictorAttorneyForFreedom No thank you and AOR!

[@jameswhitaker1324]

Huh, I’ve already got a range bag.

[@2A_lifestyle]

I don't have a dog in this fight so I could care less. But I think it's laughable that people like you on both sides of this argument are very vocal about how the one you chose is "better" or "offers so much more" as you put it. But will never elaborate on what the "more" is. You just throw that out there as if it's a fact, but with no context. And when pressed you just fall back to "but Kayla Giles and Allan Colie"

[@5.56_Media]

That's your choice. For us we will support Pro 2A companies.

[@BlueCurtainBurner]

I unsubbed to 3 pissing contest channels this weekend. I’m ok with opinions like this one that takes no side, but seriously pointing fingers at who is better is childish and of no interest to me.

[@TheCorybonuaf]

Great video I really like the unbiased opinion. Me personally I switched because I want to have the immediate contact with a lawyer if something ever were to happen but I’m a lot better informed now than I was a little bit ago because of this video thank you.

[@dakotadoak7665]

Langley lost his right to whine and cry when during his and Heavy duty country's debate because he kept beating around the bush and refusing the actually answer ANY questions. He then went on to attack people who were wronged by USCCA on many levels and then whines and cries like a toddler when Heavy Duty Country calls him out. Langley has fallen from the grace of a lot of people. When I saw he was happy to be represented by USCCA, I already knew he was going to be a sell out. Their debate and then him whining about being " attacked" just shows. Hopefully langley's wife and kids (if he has them) doesn't watch his videos cause holy crap, she should run if she does.

[@mytquin7605]

i dropped USCCA and Langley too !!!!!

[@melgillham462]

The thing that needs to be done is Victor needs to address his antigun history and how it applies to him today. Especially considering he published antigun materials. Im not angry at either one but we need clarity. Ive had my own issue with USCCA and have been considering AOR but wont until clarity is addressed.

[@MarcVictorAttorneyForFreedom]

Video coming tomorrow on the AOR channel. I hope you watch.

[@mytquin7605]

anti-gun ??? i don't think so.

[@heavydutycountry]

Have a blessed evening John

[@JohnCrumpNews]

You too bud

[@michaelloecher8830]

Sorry, USCCA screwed up enough when they dropped more than just the one or two clients you mentioned here. Regardless of what one thinks of the two mentioned cases, we are innocent until proven guilty & USCCA dropped clients BEFORE they tried to uphold their fiduciary duties & they should’ve exhausted all appeals as well as the initial case. Everyone do your homework & see what cases they covered AND not covered. 💥🔫🦅🇺🇸🙏

[@Unknown-qp9ur]

That is not how laws controlling insurance companies work. If there is a better than 50% chance you will be found guilty it become very difficult for them to be involved. Notice how there is not insurance for anything else that could result in criminal charges? Insurance is just the wrong thing for this.

[@michaelloecher8830]

@ The fundamental coverage is SELF DEFENSE coupled with innocent until proven guilty & lastly understating there are appeals to cover so if one were to get into this line of insurance they MUST cover no matter what or don’t cover at all. This isn’t something to guess about or mess with. 💥🔫🦅🇺🇸🙏

[@akdefense]

Thanks for your candid response. Tit for tat. Both are not my cup of tea. USCCA is Yellow through and through. AOR has strong anti 2A stance but appears to see $$ that can be made easily enough.

[@jrmotorsports55]

Thanks for sharing.

[@calebbearup4282]

You can dislike or like either or both as much or as little as you want. That's irrelevant. If you are hiring them to do a job for you then how they perform on that specific task is all that matters

[@skydivingcomrade1648]

I'm just happy their are more groups out there

[@craighansen7594]

I've looked at both, probably will not go with either. What I am doing for now is researching true proven 2nd Amendment attorneys. Talk to them about their services and simply keeping their contact info.😮

[@borabora4480]

Ccwsafe

[@ConstitutionalPatriot]

Take in information, make the choices that are right for you and your circumstances. But please don't attack others who may be of a different mindset or circumstance. We need to stand together, or be picked off, one at a time.

[@PaleoCon2008]

You seem to know very little about the two cases you referenced in this video. But USCCA has left at least two members in the lurch and one is in jail and one is out of jail but now a convicted felon.

[@pcliftonjr]

I always felt USCCA was more about marketing and "training". AOR wasn't even on the radar when I chose a vendor. I don't have a dog in "this" fight. I urge people to do their own research.

[@KendrasEdge757]

Finally some common sense into this mix. People hear what their favorite guntuber says and they parrot that nonsense. Most guntubers are only saying what their sponsors pay them to say, specifically about the other company. It’s quite disgusting honestly but people prefer their group think echo chambers hence why social media is so popular. Sad. God bless! Soli Deo Gloria~

[@rosewinter8693]

Uscca is selling their pepper ball gun & I opine that’s what ussca wants you to own & have, to make their profit margins will be greater to the company.

[@travisweldmaster7815]

Do not pay a gun grabber or a liar wtf are all you people contemplating on...wtf

[@greygunner]

AOR had been around a lot longer than a year.

[@5.56_Media]

Great video and "new" details these people who defend the liberal AOR need to hear.

[@FreedomKat]

Careful Crump. When ppl wedge the way into this confrontation it does not end well in the comments lol... But let's see what YOU have to say. Prove me wrong please. ;)

[@antoniomelendez2464]

I have Firearm Legal Protection and on paper they look excelent.

[@breckfreeride]

Haven't heard any of that yet!

[@jeffreyhowll1392]

Luv ya Crumpy!

[@jacobcurda6031]

Firearms Legal Protection …..

[@moabs10blowthru41]

This crap needs to stop,who cares what insurance or lawyer you use......

[@TheCorybonuaf]

People who value their freedom care

[@moabs10blowthru41]

@TheCorybonuaf you can still make your own choices without all this useless bickering

[@chaoticcaninejb]

Did you move, new studio now

[@literallynobody1515]

Defending any company is cringe af. They don't care about you, nor know you exist. It's frankly embarrassing.

[@alhorn2664]

Paying any insurance company is nothing more than legalized gambling.

[@travisweldmaster7815]

Dropped heavy duty country, dropped langley, years ago dropped uscca, will never entertain aor on any level period mic drop🎉

[@mpeugeot]

Did you lose some weight John? Looking a bit healthier.

[@travisweldmaster7815]

Gun grabbers/liar vs just liars ..I'll have neither

[@Genessis001]

Dang Crumpy. This was pretty darn disingenuous and ya contradict yourself. FACTS are USCCA has dropped MANY clients who pay for their service. They certainly won't fight a case when there's a higher probability of them losing. Even 2A issues. AOR- They're awesome, neone considering should visit their web & check events covered. Pretty 👍🥇

[@Toofani_Gamer09]

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[@johnniecameron8829]

Iam spending my money on food

[@CoreyFPiazza]

From the point of view of someone not emotionally attached to either side, I can say, the AOR side seems to want to blame the other side for shilling, but the shilling for AOR is HARDCORE. Most the KZbinrs being attacked by AOR's White Knight, Heavy Duty Country, are for neither USCCA or AOR, or potentially moderately leaning more USCCA than AOR. There doesn't seem to be any grace for disagreement, if you say anything against AOR, be prepared for the wrath of its fanbase. Now, Gun Owners Radio and Guns for All also released more moderate videos on this subject, and they don't appear to be as hostile or fanatical as AOR's fanbase is. Again, I'm not for any of these companies, but the energy coming from AOR has me a little put off. I may go US Lawshield myself since I've heard a lot of good about them and they're not attached to this embarrassing drama.

[@MarcVictorAttorneyForFreedom]

I'm happy to answer any questions you have.

[@LeeFox1337]

AOR is a lawyer. And nothing is as good for business aa more laws. Especially laws that infringe on right in the bill of rights.

[@MarcVictorAttorneyForFreedom]

Actually we advocated against marijuana laws for many years as we made money representing people charged with them. Happy to lose the money to gain the freedom.

[@tokyosan7906]

Did you make any effort to talk to both sides before running with this story? I'm guessing no because one of the sides are in this very comment section saying he's willing to talk. This is a horribly incomplete job of journalism, its more like a reaction video. If your journalism is now reaction videos Crumpy, I'm out.

[@FreedomKat]

UPDATE: No you did not prove me wrong. Another sunshine rainbow boy who thinks they have the moral value to have a sit down with people. Not everyone is going to ever all get along. I suggest sticking to 2a topics personally. You do well with that . P.S. AOR IS THE BEST!

[@MarcVictorAttorneyForFreedom]

Thank you

[@Slimmerman223]

You’re delusional bro, take your meds

[@j_zales1390]

Yur wrong

[@bassmonster420]

⁠@@j_zales1390You’re a bad speller… or just lazy. AOR all the way.

[@johnniecameron8829]

There both. Money grabs.

[@cslate36]

Wow bandwagon get your own content

[@bladeboysfv5646]

You realize you're taking The High Ground while also saying it shouldn't matter they have different advertisers but when these people advertising on their channel are being promoted for having a shitty/shady service that I'm spending my money on because the person I follow is suggesting it that's f***** up! Show all these KZbinrs I follow that say yeah sign up for ucca they're so great they're so incredible are effectively telling me to waste my money and get f***** over