Use THIS Baseboard IDEA on Your Next Project!

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Stud Pack

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Gang. We get a lot of questions asking about materials we use, how we measure and where we buy them! Sometimes it really is as simple as it looks, other times you have to look a little harder. We'll show you when that happens, but in this video we take you to a familiar place to explore some different options when it comes to trim in not just a bathroom but any room really. Just because it's sold to function as one purpose, doesn't mean it can't be changed to fit your needs! Thanks for watching, and we'll see ya in the next one!
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@normm.7265
@normm.7265 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE the bloopers. We never doubted your humanity. Never thought you were perfect. But you are relatable and approachable. Rock on SP!
@crisnmaryfam7344
@crisnmaryfam7344 Жыл бұрын
Yesss LOL
@thezfunk
@thezfunk 2 жыл бұрын
I did PVC base in my laundry room. I knew I didn't want wood and was surprised to find a matching white PVC base at Menards. Caulked it well and basically made a bathtub.
@billhill3526
@billhill3526 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking.
@stretchsws6
@stretchsws6 2 жыл бұрын
If you aren’t planning on running shoe moulding or quarter round on the base in the future. you should run a bead of caulk along the blue tape before painting to fill in the gaps between the tile and baseboard. When you removed the tape when done painting you have a clean gap free look.
@priceandpride
@priceandpride 8 ай бұрын
Ya those gaps under look unfinished
@ericgardner5548
@ericgardner5548 8 ай бұрын
Was wondering that myself, but also so water doesn't get behind into the sub floor and wall I would think? I was curious why he didn't run a bead of caulk there.
@h2s142
@h2s142 7 ай бұрын
Baseboard first then tile
@Stephen-yd7ce
@Stephen-yd7ce 7 ай бұрын
Agreed, water can run right under that.
@csimet
@csimet 7 ай бұрын
Pickup color-matched (to the grout or baseboard) silicon. Creates a nice finished look under the baseboard and keeps water, cleaning supplies, etc. from seeping under and discoloring. Especially important in bathrooms and kitchens that get regular "wet" floor cleanings.
@BretClements
@BretClements 2 жыл бұрын
Jordan the out takes are golden! Keep 'em coming! Excellent content as always guys.
@dracoirs
@dracoirs 2 жыл бұрын
Such PHENOMENAL content, I love the trip to the depot where you explain things there and it would be awesome if you showed more of that. You guys are such an inspiration! I honestly feel pride for you guys with how well you do!
@thetrexgorawr
@thetrexgorawr 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who works is water and mold restoration. If you want to make that really water proof, chalk it to the ground. Otherwise the water will still get under it, even from normal use. It'll use the grout lines as highways. The base is water proof but the sheet rock is a food source for mold. An option if you don't like the chalked base look. You can run a small bead at the wall floor meeting. So when you snap your base in it'll be hidden. Disclaimer this is for plastic base only!!!! Also great content love you guys!
@arsenicjones9125
@arsenicjones9125 2 жыл бұрын
That stone baseboard is a million dollar idea that is way more affordable than it seems when you see how beautiful it is. I’d be showing off my baseboard to strangers in the line at the grocery! Lol that really is a slick modern look
@TR4Ajim
@TR4Ajim 2 жыл бұрын
Quick tip when doing baseboard. Find the wall studs beforehand and mark their location with pieces of blue painters tape. Then when nailing the baseboard you’ll always hit a stud.
@ryanmacewen511
@ryanmacewen511 2 жыл бұрын
I do that myself. Works well. For oddball situations where woods not available, I'll use some adhesive, even hot glue at times.
@locke3141
@locke3141 2 жыл бұрын
I did this last time I did trim. Had some weird looks from those helping, but when I was able to blaze through the nailing and not have to jumble with a stud finder, they understood.
@garycasper2929
@garycasper2929 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, the glue is overkill & you’re screwing the next person that has to go to take it off.
@orcoastgreenman
@orcoastgreenman 7 ай бұрын
@@garycasper2929- It's better than having to straighten an old floor or wall enough for finish nails alone to hold. I don't think they are advocating gluing commonly or for situations where brads or finish nails alone will hold it. I have spots on almost every trim job where a bit of adhesive makes it possible to get the trim to stay where I need it, but never use glue where nails suffice, for exactly the reason you mention. Hopefully our combined comments will keep some "ovrkill bill" from gluing all of their trim in place!😂
@michaelmaas5544
@michaelmaas5544 7 ай бұрын
@@garycasper2929thinking of someone taking your work apart 😂😂😂
@keenapowell8715
@keenapowell8715 2 жыл бұрын
Cherish all this time u get to spend together! What a gift that y’all have so much fun!!! Fun, educational-Thank you!
@casid9929
@casid9929 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you like the product. I used it in my bath and the shoe in kitchen. When I mop, no problem!
@charleshenderson9058
@charleshenderson9058 2 жыл бұрын
You and Jordan are my favorites. Y’all give me answers to questions I haven’t even thought of yet! Mucho respect!!!
@kenmore01
@kenmore01 2 жыл бұрын
I love the plastic for wet areas. Nice work. I know I'm gonna love the stone trim and yes, for something you do once, it's totally worth that cost!
@duytruongpdx
@duytruongpdx 2 жыл бұрын
The bloopers are golden! Love it, can't get enough of your videos. You are so good at teaching, showing and explaining how things work and why. Appreciate all your content and sharing!
@ronvilla5149
@ronvilla5149 2 жыл бұрын
The information you share is priceless! Any project I do, I always check to make sure you guys have made a video of it. Just to make sure I won't (hopefully) make any mistakes!🙂👍
@haaalbo
@haaalbo 2 жыл бұрын
glad to see creative solutions to our current supply chain issues. There's always a way! I lived in South FL with humidity so I used PVC/vinyl moulding for the base and crown so I wouldn't have issues. As you know, they don't have many options so I added one on top of the other to get a unique look. Thanks for all the great tips.
@Titantitan001
@Titantitan001 2 жыл бұрын
My man being a problem solver not a problem starter. Good attitude to have mate. There is always a way.
@illestofdemall13
@illestofdemall13 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Fort Lauderdale so I know what you mean.
@Vathlik
@Vathlik 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are great. Informative, wholesome content. Thanks for showing me and others how you accomplish such great results. These videos cheer me up significantly and keep me going, despite times being pretty difficult these days. Thank you both. Keep up the great work, and lots of respect for all you do.
@marjoriejudge5348
@marjoriejudge5348 2 жыл бұрын
always appreciate how well organized your content is and how the information focused on the subject at hand - thank you so much 🙂
@darkgeargaming1564
@darkgeargaming1564 2 жыл бұрын
The Poly baseboard ideas is what we're going with in our house. Remodeling after reinstalling hardwood my baseboards have been bare for almost a year now. That putty stuff you were showing though definitely offers a solution to the issue I was trying to work around though.
@jamiereife5581
@jamiereife5581 6 ай бұрын
Wow, you are an excellent teacher. Thank you for running through the options as you did.
@TravisTutorial
@TravisTutorial 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video as always! I like the walk through the Home Depot trim isle. I have a basement bathroom with MDF trim that has gotten wet and swelled and will be replacing it - that isle is a little intimidating for a hobbyist like me but you broke it down great!
@paullouthan4390
@paullouthan4390 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and topic. My wife and I have been discussing these material options recently as we retrim our entire home. Due to price and supply considerations, we are using MDF everywhere except the bathrooms and kitchen. PVC is the way. I've also used some PVC boards as an exterior finish under a sliding glass door and plan to use it under the front door where I have already removed rotten wood. Thanks guys. Love the channel and all the little tips sprinkled throughout each video.
@margaretbear
@margaretbear 2 жыл бұрын
Finished a bathroom renovation a couple of months ago - used the 12x4 subway tiles for the baseboard with Schluter trim - it does look nice, but man, the stone option is sweet and would have been SO much easier! It would have taken me 30 minutes instead of hours of cuts and grouting... and would have looked awesome. The poly option actually looks pretty good too! Love love love the out takes and comments (outfeed table 🤣🤣🤣).
@keithmarlowe5569
@keithmarlowe5569 2 жыл бұрын
OH! What about making stone look baseboards with concrete? I can totally do it and never thought of it. Your comment sparked the idea. If you care to pursue, check out 2 things. Fishstone Super 6 admix and Direct Colors.
@benseifu9221
@benseifu9221 11 ай бұрын
I was just researching baseboards to install in my remodel. What a great video!! The tiles as baseboards is a brilliant idea. And I have lots of leftovers from the shower walls!!
@darthkarnagge8343
@darthkarnagge8343 2 жыл бұрын
Love the look of that polystyrene base. Gonna have to try it when I replace the trim in my bath.
@gblair999
@gblair999 6 ай бұрын
Hey Paul. I’m an electrician and I have had clients ask me about projects outside my primary discipline. I owe a ton of what I know and what I can speak to , to you and your son. An ocean of knowledge. Y’all are amazing at what y’all do. Love all the videos.
@richardbennett22
@richardbennett22 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣Love those out takes guys, your videos continue to get better and better all the time. And I am always learning new things from them.
@arelfarrington9943
@arelfarrington9943 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video guys! And excellent suggestion! I've never thought of doing this. Definitely gonna look into it!!! Thanks!
@charlesdbruce
@charlesdbruce 2 жыл бұрын
That "plastic wood" is great stuff. Good for outdoor jobs as well. I put some on a shed I resheathed a couple years ago.
@davidoylear7472
@davidoylear7472 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Stud Pack!!! I love bloopers and sometimes it’s real funny. It shows how much human we are. Great job on your project. Can’t wait for your next video!
@bigwebguy
@bigwebguy 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Stud Pack, try using a clear caulk against the floor just before you paint. Prevents any bleed under the tape and will fill the dips in grout lines. Either tool the caulk or pull the tape asap after painting so the tape can cut the caulk. Makes the base look scribed to fit.
@sundoesshine8583
@sundoesshine8583 7 ай бұрын
Cool! The dips were really bugging me!
@TEAMPHY6
@TEAMPHY6 10 күн бұрын
Could maybe bottom butter the baseboard with the clear caulk right before install!
@wizengy
@wizengy 2 жыл бұрын
I especially like that plastic type of molding for the bathroom. When I install it I run a continuous line of caulk along the bottom and ends. This is so if you have a leak or get wild with the mopping it will not go under the molding and into the walls. It becomes a little bathtub and prevents water damage. It also keeps those pesky bugs from crawling out of the walls.
@gegashira9620
@gegashira9620 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the before and after pic of the baseboard before caulking and after. Makes a believer out of me.
@michiganman845
@michiganman845 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing. Working in my bathroom right now. My favorite how to channel.
@jragonwriter6316
@jragonwriter6316 3 ай бұрын
Love the video! Thanks for the idea and insight! I'm definitely going to use polystyrene, or even solid stone baseboards in my project!
@n3o717
@n3o717 6 ай бұрын
Sold me on a product when I'd see it in store (used to) hate it. Looks great, and thank you for tips and full install guide!
@the_kingdom
@the_kingdom 7 ай бұрын
Great job explaining and narrowing down your options.
@YTubeSDD
@YTubeSDD 2 жыл бұрын
And here I thought you said everything perfectly the first time. Love you vids and the outtakes.
@congoose100
@congoose100 2 жыл бұрын
Most Tips Per Minute for sure. Love it!
@nnamrehck
@nnamrehck 2 жыл бұрын
Paul makes excellent choices of materials and tools!
@stevebowser7248
@stevebowser7248 2 жыл бұрын
The attention to detail is impressive. Looing at grout lines and baseboard lines to make them appear as paralell is first class professional. I am going to copy your idea of the nail hook on the brush. GENIUS. I've had various techniques over the years, nothing that simple and effective.
@lostreb
@lostreb 2 жыл бұрын
First, the polystyrene is "perfect" for my ongoing recovering from the 2021 14 below zero damage project. I would never have even considered it. The tip on cutting fast so you don't melt it? Thank you. No telling how many cuts I would have made before I finally came to that realization. Also, your paint brush suspension system?!?!?!? PRICELESS!!!!! Why didn't I think of that 55 years ago when I was basically just doing painting for a couple of years. Duh... You guys ROCK. Please keep up the great tips and hints.
@ncooty
@ncooty 2 жыл бұрын
I had that exact same thought on that tip about cutting polystyrene fast. I'd have thought it was just the nature of the material and I'd have just deburred every #%×& cut. :)
@lostreb
@lostreb 2 жыл бұрын
@@ncooty I would probably have concluded "I'll never use this $#*t ever again in life!!!!" "Operator Error" would have never entered into my thought process. "And then," the "EXPERTS" brought reality and common sense into the equation. That was a Fantastic Tip from Stud Pack!!
@jambykool
@jambykool 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos. You have an easy disposition and rarely get flustered.
@ohmsweethohm7259
@ohmsweethohm7259 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve done base the same way here in VA. The cordless dewalt orbital will save you a few minutes when hooked to the vac. Nice video as always guys!
@kimberlywatson8931
@kimberlywatson8931 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible the difference that caulking makes!!! Wowzers
@aaronconner2010
@aaronconner2010 2 жыл бұрын
Love to see a pro who takes pride in making a project come out perfect!
@j.darrenwright1708
@j.darrenwright1708 2 жыл бұрын
Love the attention to detail and workmanship.
@jeffcarpenter6306
@jeffcarpenter6306 2 жыл бұрын
You guys do a great job. I appreciate you sharing our knowledge.
@jameskelly2777
@jameskelly2777 2 жыл бұрын
Really well thought out on this one No corners were cut Solid job.
@neli.a
@neli.a 2 жыл бұрын
Durham’s is the best!! I’ve used it for years it’s especially great for drywall repairs. Love it!
@danielhoward1000
@danielhoward1000 3 ай бұрын
THANK YOU.I'LL BE USING EXACTLY THE SAME BASE ON MY NEW BATHROOM. YOU ARE THE BEST,
@mattwilliamson1714
@mattwilliamson1714 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video! 👍🏻👍🏻 (SO glad y'all made this channel.) Tip I used for taping quickly when I was doing a lot of interior work: ditch the roll of tape and putty knife... use the tape/paper maskers from the paint department, but with no paper on them (only tape). You do have to be careful that you don't cut yourself on the blade, but as long as you go around the room from Left to Right, it'll become much faster than the old way. (Another side benefit discovered when I started using maskers for all my tape jobs: when I finally used a masker with tape and paper for painting, I had so much experience with the masker that I could move at a fast walk... which soon became a slow jog... even on stilts.)
@Tkm112093evadell
@Tkm112093evadell 2 жыл бұрын
Durhams water putty is all we use! But we like the premixed stuff. Love that stuff!
@hikerbro3870
@hikerbro3870 2 жыл бұрын
Durham's is the bomb digity. Old fashioned and I don't care although it can be hard to find in some places. I make holsters and it is fantastic for mold making.
@matthewmiller4747
@matthewmiller4747 2 жыл бұрын
Pvc base molding works pretty good too.
@ciarasuarez8915
@ciarasuarez8915 2 жыл бұрын
LOVEEEE THE ENDING WITH THE BLOOPERS!! Keep ''em coming!! Lol Also thank you for y'all's VERY informative videos, we are currently redoing our drywall tape and float and are looking back at your drywalling videos to help us out!
@milesharlan1
@milesharlan1 2 жыл бұрын
Good Afternoon Studpack! Traveling home today & still Traveling.. I made it even though I am way late..Better late & not showing up at all! Thank you guys! keep up the good work!!
@andrewburris1767
@andrewburris1767 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. We had mushrooms growing from our MDF baseboard in the master bath. Looking into decorative tile or plastic base instead, glad I was on the right track!
@bocan3189
@bocan3189 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice finishing touches here guys! The "music to watch Dad work to" is definitely upgraded material too!
@julioacevedo1035
@julioacevedo1035 2 жыл бұрын
Great content. I like the idea of stone even though it's pricey. Thanks for the powdered putty, I had no idea that was available. Keep up the great work.
@henrylint3227
@henrylint3227 2 жыл бұрын
The nail in the brush trick is genius! Love the channel!
@tjkasgl
@tjkasgl 6 ай бұрын
I just finished redoing my daughter's basement and use common board as her baseboards. I handpicked every board for straightness and grain. Then I had her hand stain every board then sanded it down to where the stain was light and the grain popped. Then we sealed them with a satin varnish. I had her lay them out with her favorites around the doors. Added a week to the job but it turned out incredible
@markeastridge9649
@markeastridge9649 2 жыл бұрын
Dunham’s Water Putty definitely something I will try. Looks pretty much all purpose and low waste long storage. Might replace plaster of Paris for nail fills in my walls.
@bennytorres4557
@bennytorres4557 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great idea, I’m going to use it on my next project. Thank you
@Djynni
@Djynni 2 жыл бұрын
Good tip about the stone - I'll think about that for my Master Bath remodel.
@tituschalk
@tituschalk 2 жыл бұрын
Such a great craftsman and inspiring teacher.
@michafender1537
@michafender1537 2 жыл бұрын
Come on man I just opened the video and I'm already enthused in the first minute. Simply amazing.. love from Jamaica 🇯🇲 big up stud pack.
@StudPack
@StudPack 2 жыл бұрын
Love from the South Micha! Big Ups bud 👊🏼
@johnprendergast3173
@johnprendergast3173 2 жыл бұрын
Learning so much from you guys. A few of your tips being used here in Ireland
@Skiwattentotten
@Skiwattentotten 2 жыл бұрын
Every time i watch you guys I get put in a good mood. Love you guys, keep up the good work
@lazygardens
@lazygardens 7 ай бұрын
DUH! Backsplash strips! That's a wonderful idea.
@PaulaMion
@PaulaMion 6 ай бұрын
We always have a wainscoting of tile on the wet room walls. I usually use natural stone on the floor like honed travertine then use a tumbled travertine on the walls. The nice part about using a natural stone on the walls is, you can bullnose your tile for the top really easily, so it looks finished. Also if you have any outside corners to cover on the wall, you can bullnose that too. Great information, it's always about things worth knowing!! Thanks!
@Freddie2598
@Freddie2598 2 жыл бұрын
I use PVC trim in bathrooms up here that stands up really well I’ve never had a customer complain about it
@raykaderli3534
@raykaderli3534 2 жыл бұрын
Holy production quality Batman! You guys have leveled up. I like how you focus on the decision process as well as the install. Thanks
@niceview369
@niceview369 2 жыл бұрын
You’re amazing Dude! Love the professional, detailed, explanations of everything that matters. I’m no pro but it appears that you don’t miss a lick 👅 Thankyou for sharing you’re knowledge and expertise.
@lennygriffin4464
@lennygriffin4464 2 жыл бұрын
You are very knowledgeable and have a lot of experience!!
@zetamale7952
@zetamale7952 6 ай бұрын
Good video. Straight to the point rapid flow and none of the insignificant stuff that comes along with the job. 👍👍
@billybike57
@billybike57 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome show, some great hits I’m saving for my next trim out. 👍🏼
@Billybobjohngeorgejr
@Billybobjohngeorgejr 8 ай бұрын
"Trick the Eye" is a real concept that works. Been doing it for years. Good on you Pops!
@MakeItWithJim
@MakeItWithJim 2 жыл бұрын
This is my next task - you guys are on point!
@peggyhill9305
@peggyhill9305 6 ай бұрын
Wow! I really like this idea of using stone/marble for the baseboard. We live in florida and funny enough all of the window sills were done in marble. Thanks
@ryanmacewen511
@ryanmacewen511 2 жыл бұрын
Another video thats not clickbait. Keep it up! That is a great idea, and a great look. Easier too! No grouting.
@zachaugustine893
@zachaugustine893 2 жыл бұрын
Lol the outtakes are great
@brianhopkins5251
@brianhopkins5251 2 жыл бұрын
Durham's water putty is the best, been using that for at least 30 years. works great outside too. and if you seal the top the can lasts forever. Stuff is great, funny you mention that. It's not expensive either.
@plumbbuild6517
@plumbbuild6517 2 жыл бұрын
It is some good stuff I've been using it for many years as well, there for a minute I was sure he added to much water it doesn't take much.
@freedomshack
@freedomshack 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice as always guys!
@lilolmecj
@lilolmecj 7 ай бұрын
I used the polystyrene in my recent bathroom remodel. I lobe it. It has a short learning curve for cutting ( cut fast, it can melt). It is more expensive than pine, but looks fabulous and I’ll never have to replace it. We routed the baseboards for the rest of the house, which got the look I wanted but it was a ton of work.
@elevatedsciencesllc8089
@elevatedsciencesllc8089 2 жыл бұрын
great tip. Will definitely try
@frankvasquez1387
@frankvasquez1387 Жыл бұрын
Great job! Looks nice and thx for this valuable information!
@degrom542
@degrom542 2 жыл бұрын
Azek makes pvc mouldings made for exterior applications. Lowes carries a few different profiles . Not cheap but what is .
@logicalblueberry
@logicalblueberry 7 ай бұрын
I love the idea of using stone for baseboard. You earned my subscription!
@tullgutten
@tullgutten 2 жыл бұрын
First thing i though about when you said molding on the bathroom i expected PVC trim boards. Always love your work 👍
@Nicetrybrobro
@Nicetrybrobro 2 жыл бұрын
Never seem work so clean and professional! Great video guys
@bsw051
@bsw051 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to see that your friendly to both sides of the isle. We need more of that these days.
@StudPack
@StudPack 2 жыл бұрын
We’ve done beautiful projects with all materials. Through a skilled hand, There’s a place for all of it 👊🏼
@gregred78
@gregred78 2 жыл бұрын
It's been a while since I was in the home store but they used to offer a pvc molding that was a little more heavy and didn't mar up as easily. Also was a solid color all the way though so you didn't have to worry to much about that issue either.
@b3arwithm3
@b3arwithm3 2 жыл бұрын
Really like the part in HD explaning the different options. We need more of that as there are lots to choose from. Wife keeps asking why when i go to HD, i take hours. Because i get lost with so many options snd not knowing what is the most suitable for my case. That eas very educative 👍
@paulhoskins7852
@paulhoskins7852 2 жыл бұрын
Durham's putty is a great product. Great video.
@MannyFontes1968
@MannyFontes1968 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, that was a neat idea with the paint brush and nail to hang it on the paint can...👍👍
@robertkerby2581
@robertkerby2581 2 жыл бұрын
Great information! Well done!
@waynemiller6070
@waynemiller6070 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like I made the right choice for trimming out my bathroom. The bathroom is right next to a little entryway downstairs, so I actually used a PVC product to trim out that small area as well to make it match. I didn’t want to use caulk on the nail holes so thanks for introducing me to that filler product. Also the nail in the paint brush is a killer idea.
@rw6024
@rw6024 5 ай бұрын
Skip the nail hot glue a small magnet to the brush handle for metal cans...
@JoeSevy
@JoeSevy 6 ай бұрын
I've used the vinyl trim before. Looks great... for a bit.
@kevincauchi5901
@kevincauchi5901 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are a class act with great content! Appreciate y'all! Godbless
@straight_to_finish
@straight_to_finish 2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you’d suggest using either 1x5 or 1x6 PVC since that’s what I spec for all my bathrooms. It looks like regular base when finished, but it’ll never rot like wood. Great content today!
@matthewrick
@matthewrick 2 жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing
@keithmarlowe5569
@keithmarlowe5569 2 жыл бұрын
And...you can glue it if need be with plumbing pvc cement. Pvc is pvc, whether pipe or "boards".
@allysonhoward2559
@allysonhoward2559 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I used in my bathrooms in my recent renovation and love them.
@ballgms308
@ballgms308 2 жыл бұрын
Issue with those are it does not look like finish trim at all. They have a huge cup and boards are warped which makes it impossible to make a sexy miter cut
@straight_to_finish
@straight_to_finish 2 жыл бұрын
@@ballgms308 haven’t had this issue with my installations. It looks exactly like wood trim when painted.
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