Used Table Saw Buying Guide (2021)

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Used Table Saw Buying Guide (2021)
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@walterbordett2023
@walterbordett2023 3 жыл бұрын
Two important things about table saws: First thing is you need a sharp blade. Second thing: Tune it up before you use it. Table saws are more dangerous if not aligned right. Also buy or make push sticks and feather boards. Use them always. Learn how to safely make all of the basic cuts. If you think an operation is hazardous, dont do it. Find a safe way.
@walterbordett2023
@walterbordett2023 3 жыл бұрын
@@arcadion448 Riving knives reduce kickback caused by the kerf closing up. Saving your fingertips comes from never letting your hand get near the blade under any circumstances. You can sure chop off fingers even with a riving knife if you are careless even for a moment. My vintage 1977 Craftsman table saw came with a blade guard with anti-kickback pawls. I think there are aftermarket riving knives that can replace that guard. I have never felt the need to add a riving knife. I always use the blade guard unless it must be removed for a dado or operation where it is in the way. YMMV.
@CrimeVid
@CrimeVid 3 жыл бұрын
@@walterbordett2023 it’s all horses for courses isn’t it, most of the guys I have worked with on site don’t carry a site saw, but they do have their circular saw drilled so you can bolt it under a bit of plywood, a couple of fast sawhorses a quick t square out of scrap and off you go…. but you have to know your game !! all of them know where their riving knife is.. in the garage, somewhere !
@scottbuttrick-w8skb396
@scottbuttrick-w8skb396 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a 1950’s Delta Unisaw last summer at a yard sale for $40. It had a 3hp 240volt motor. I restored it which was mainly derusting the top and it purrs like a kitten.
@redtop03
@redtop03 3 жыл бұрын
great find
@paolohuang9935
@paolohuang9935 11 ай бұрын
You do have to spend some time setting the saw up... blade, fence, etc. But once done, the saw is great. Fairly compact which is Nice kzbin.infoUgkxXh-4_3-ZT1fFWP91ZV7iVqzElr0lEb-a I did get an Incra Miter Gauge which takes some setup as well. The stock miter gauge can be adjusted in the miter slot with a little painter's tape... this tightens up the side to side play a lot.
@robjones8112
@robjones8112 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Craftsman 113 10 " saw, and a majority of people will tell you that it's one of the best saws ever made
@vtramell3196
@vtramell3196 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 113 series Craftsman saw with cast iron web wings. It cost me $50 and couple hours helping an acquaintance install some molding. I scored a Delta fence for $100, added machined pulleys, link belt and homemade zero-clearance insert with splitter. The result is an accurate, smooth running saw. Not bad for a $200 total investment.
@mrniusi11
@mrniusi11 Жыл бұрын
Details on the fence?
@tonycosta3302
@tonycosta3302 3 ай бұрын
I did nearly the same thing. Got mine for $50, added a Delta T3 fence, new insert, added a router table extension, etc. All in for less than $200 plus some sweat equity to clean it up and build a base. Can’t beat that.
@matt497
@matt497 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a $50 table saw from a garage sale. I turned it on once in my garage, became terrified, I unplugged it and put it in the corner and didn't touch it for 2 years. Last summer I set it out on the corner with a free sign and finally felt safe lol
@BookieLukie21
@BookieLukie21 Ай бұрын
I picked up a craftsman table saw for $25. It did the job to help make some bee swarm boxes, I for my $$$ with out of it. As a female who grew up around craftsman tools, I think it opened me up to consider a better grade table saw for the future. ❤
@ethanvankooten9934
@ethanvankooten9934 3 жыл бұрын
Those old 10inch craftsman saws with an updated fence, updated belt and pulleys and the cast iron wings will run circles around that new delta all day long
@inigomontoya4109
@inigomontoya4109 3 жыл бұрын
I mean sure, but by that point youve spent more money than just buying the delta.
@rkdazet
@rkdazet 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, some good advice here. I agree with you on pricing. I used my Delta contractor's saw for many years with old jet lock fence and steel wings. I finally decided to make upgrades to it. added cast iron wings and Bench Dog Router extension. Also upgraded the fence to a Shop Fox fence. By the time I finished, I could have purchased any number of new cabinet saws that probably would have been superior. The plus though, is that I learned a lot in the process. My Delta saw was made in USA, but I can tell you that doesn't mean it is perfect. The top is not flat and the left table edge is not square. Had to shim the new wing to make it somewhat level with the table. Also be aware that there are very few parts available for the old Delta saws, thanks to Black and Decker/Dewalt. The word is, when they bought the company, they sent the entire warehouse of spare parts to the landfill along with most technical data. They later sold the brand again to the current owner. So be aware of that if you buy an old Delta saw, i.e. those Unisaws that you mentioned. Technically, some of the newer saws on the market have made improvements to the design of their cabinets saws. Beefier trunnions and drive belts systems. Also the dust collection on these old saws is not good compared to the newer saws. Another thing to consider is, is the saw left or right tilt. Mine is right tilt, and I find that not so good since one should tilt away from the fence for safety. If I was buying a new saw, it would have to be left tilt. Yes, you can move the fence to the left of the blade, but you have a very limited rip capacity that way. BTW, that Delta Contractors saw you showed had the old Delta Unifence, which is a great fence. Very heavy duty. Laguna and Harvey saws are using a similar design now. Delta sold many cabinet saws with that fence before they bought Biesemeyer. BTW another reason not to pay to much for an old saw is something you can't see. The arbor bearings. There is a good chance they will be shot if that saw has been used much. I had to replace mine and it only had moderate use. If they are worn you will get more noise and vibration which might affect the quality of your cut.
@HiroProtagonistak
@HiroProtagonistak 3 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a Felder sliding table saw from a school/county auction for $450 + $20 to bid. No one was biding on it because it's weird looking and 3 phase. I got it all hooked up and wow it's the best table saw I have used, not a home gamer saw, I'm a home gamer for sure, but really sweet. The moral is look for the state or county auctions, you can get some great tools for next to nothing. I also got a nice 2005 Ford F150 4x4 single cab truck with 46k miles for $1100.
@thomasjackson8096
@thomasjackson8096 3 жыл бұрын
The teacher of my furniture building class bought a Felder all-in-one a few years before he retired . Felder makes great machine! Pricey. But, great. Their "cheaper" line is Hammer. The teacher's plan was to offer to build custom cabinets whenever his beer and bait fund got low after he retired. Sounds like you got a great deal!
@mramseyISU
@mramseyISU 3 жыл бұрын
Well if anything ever deserved a you suck then it’s this. I lust after those felder machines.
@HiroProtagonistak
@HiroProtagonistak 3 жыл бұрын
@@mramseyISU I don't think people knew what it was. I only knew because of some German woodworking I watch on KZbin. It's 2011 but in excellent shape. It does take up a lot of room so that's a downside. It came from the state college.
@mramseyISU
@mramseyISU 3 жыл бұрын
@@HiroProtagonistak I really want to replace my jointer and planer with one of their combo 16" machines. Those table saws are amazing, I just don't have the room for it.
@thetapper61
@thetapper61 Жыл бұрын
I have the Ryobi BT3000. It was under Salt water from Hurricane Sandy 10 years ago and still going strong. Just hosed it off, Motor and all. Solid.
@jburch1544
@jburch1544 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with the Bear on this subject. Have the $100 used but by the time you're done fooling around buy new Delta or Rigid unless you truly find a deal.
@daveleach4357
@daveleach4357 Жыл бұрын
Love this show, great advice, I look forward to viewing more.
@brianwallace9997
@brianwallace9997 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this. Fun to hear your quick take on that wide assortment of saws. You are so right that an odd sized motor can result in a bargain. My table saw is an old Rockwell Beaver Cabinet Saw (i.e. the Unisaw). It came with a 3 phase motor and as a result cost $125. Installing a single phase motor was an adventure but
@glenschumannGlensWorkshop
@glenschumannGlensWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for doing this one. Really appreciate the info.
@franklandgraff1190
@franklandgraff1190 3 жыл бұрын
I always love the table saw discussions!
@sychosez
@sychosez 3 жыл бұрын
I bought one of those craftsman 113 saws with the webbed cast iron wings, for $60 bucks. Tore it apart, cleaned the rust, waxed her up, new pulleys, link belt, table insert with safety splitter, new blade, she runs and cuts like a champ! Now seeking a new fence for her which runs more than the rebuild.
@chipshot442
@chipshot442 3 жыл бұрын
Great job Bear, I had a 10 inch craftsman table saw early 1980s version great condition and gave it to one of my workers. It was a direct drive motor not the belt driven type. I still have a beautiful Craftsman 10 inch radial arm saw in my shop with the original metal base with drawers. That saw in the late 70s was 300.00 plus. I am replacing it with a new Bosch 12" Mitre Saw and building a new mitre station. I would love to get 150.00 for this saw. I thought the Craigs list prices for those old units was astronomical. I just don't get it. Older isnt always better, LOL. Thanks for the great video. Al, remodeling contractor in Maryland.
@bryanpeart
@bryanpeart 6 ай бұрын
I just learned so much. Thank you!❤
@David-hm9ic
@David-hm9ic 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, Bear! This was a great video. I hope you don’t mind my contribution. Apologies for the length! I wanted to share some of the deals I’ve gotten on used table saws to help demonstrate that patience will reward the buyer. I’ve seen similar pricing in the Houston area as you show here. No way to know the final sales prices. I had two bench top 10” saws (both were junk) before I got a Craftsman (not really a) contractor saw with a plastic housing. It was a huge improvement over the previous saws, picked up brand new but previously owned, complete with the manual, the cord still factory twist tied, all of the original accessories and zero sawdust on it at a garage sale for $75. It was OK for rough carpentry and its aluminum extension wings would allow cuts to the center of a 48” wide piece of ply but at 3.0 “Craftsman horsepower” it was not terribly powerful. I had replaced the blade and added wheels on one side. It was sold about 10 years later for $125 the first day it was advertised. It was replaced with an older Craftsman real contractor’s saw with a cast iron top, upgraded Delta fence (still not a great fence), the original blade guard and miter gauge. It had an honest 1 HP motor, still better than the “3 HP” universal motor in the previous saw. It would easily rip 2-by Southern yellow pine which isn't particularly soft. I was ready to build it into a nice cabinet inspired by KZbinr Jeremy Schmidt when a screaming deal fell into my lap. After the new-to-me saw was in my shop the cast iron Craftsman, which I had cleaned up considerably, was sold in 3 or 4 days for $250. I was willing to take less but the first guy that showed up already had one, wanted another and offered full price. What was I to say? I had cleaned the rust off of the cast iron, repainted some of the parts, added a new crosscut and rip blades, a segmented belt, machined pulleys and a homemade wheeled base but still came out a few bucks ahead. The current saw is a more serious machine. It’s a Craftsman ‘hybrid cabinet’ 10” 1.75 HP saw. That’s plenty of power for what I do; few cuts in anything thicker than 8/4 hardwood. It came with about 6 high quality blades including a Forrest Woodworker II and a Freud glue line rip and a dado stack. The fence is an out of production Saw Train, very similar to an Incra TS-LS Joinery System. It also came with 8 extra inserts, a phenolic router table with aluminum insert, a Bosch router, bits to work with the fence joinery patterns, 90° and 45° sleds and overarm dust collection. All of that set me back $1000. Just the comparable Incra fence is $689. When someone decides to buys a used saw, set aside the cash beforehand. It’s a wonderful negotiating tool to not have to tell the seller you need to round up the money. BTW- that “30 amp” saw? It was a 12” saw and a good price if it could be demonstrated as working but still, that’s 9.65 HP! No way it's 9 HP! ----- One last thing worth mentioning: If someone has 240V single phase and finds a three phase saw, a Variable Frequency Drive will allow a three phase motor to run on single phase electricity at full three phase power. Two HP capacity VFDs start at under $100 and 5 HP VFDs start at under $200.
@rockymntain
@rockymntain Жыл бұрын
Power is lost when using VFDs, just find and replace the motor with a 120/240 motor which is easier to wire in.
@crmcbrideww
@crmcbrideww 3 жыл бұрын
I got a Laguna Fusion F2 for next to nothing because someone was upgrading to a ICS SawStop and needed help moving his new saw. I spent an afternoon moving and transporting his saw and ended up getting a once in a lifetime deal. Join your local woodworking group and when someone shows off their new saw ask about their old saw and you might get a great deal.
@thomashero9779
@thomashero9779 3 жыл бұрын
I bought my Unisaw, 5hp leeson motor and Unifence for $300, the motor alone is worth $400/$500. If you’re patient there are good deals on Unisaws all the time. Saw one just the other day on Facebook for $200, only had a 3 hp motor but still an excellent deal. Unisaws last forever, you can get all the bearings at a NAPA parts store cheap if you ever need one. Pretty much every other part is indestructible.
@Sailabear11
@Sailabear11 3 жыл бұрын
You are my mentor Bear! Great production. Bravo Bear!
@kahoycrafts
@kahoycrafts 3 жыл бұрын
Love my Delta Contractor table saw from Lowe's. Yup too many people want retail prices for used or pre-owned tools. Not worth it IMO, especially when people break stuff and lie about it. I bought a 12 in. DeWalt miter saw on OfferUp and the previous owner waited until after I picked it up to tell me he busted the blade. I had to replace several bearings to get it back up to operating condition.
@atomiczombie22
@atomiczombie22 3 жыл бұрын
Good video, Bear. Thanks!
@stevenbelow2502
@stevenbelow2502 3 жыл бұрын
I loved this video. It showed how preposterous some people are with their valuation on the high side and the low side. What it comes down to is knowing what you need, knowing what it's worth, and sticking to a price. Something else will always come along. A sale is barter between honorable men (and women). Don't try to rip off the seller; be prepared to pay a fair price. I've actually paid people more than they asked because they didn't know what they had; sometimes because of a death in the family. What you get in good will is well worth it; it sure beats the feeling that you get when you put something over on someone.
@smalltownmachineshop6860
@smalltownmachineshop6860 3 жыл бұрын
Those old saws it’s hard to go by the motor for the make because they were so easy to swap back then. Dayton made tons of motors, both my walker turner drill presses have Dayton motors. Good info on old saws
@FierceSleepingDog
@FierceSleepingDog 3 жыл бұрын
Hey...I have the Craftsman tablesaw in the opening graphic. Is that good? I've had it for about 10 years and it has served me well.
@DetailEnthusiast
@DetailEnthusiast 3 жыл бұрын
How does one buy returns at HD or Lowe's?
@StArFuRyZz
@StArFuRyZz 3 жыл бұрын
I had the blue Ryobi table saw for years. Upgraded to a DeWalt portable (so much better) then a used Ridgid 4512.
@tom_schroeder
@tom_schroeder 3 жыл бұрын
I learned so much about table saws with this video. Thanks!
@denoftools
@denoftools 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@mikeking7470
@mikeking7470 3 жыл бұрын
You are exactly right! I have a 10" Delta Tilty that I am restoring but I have about $100 in parts and got the saw for free, I see these on Ebay for almost $1000. My Shopsmith was $200 and I have another $200 in extras. And my RAS was $50.00. There are deals to be had but most folks refuse to research and figure out what stuff is worth.
@nicbuo8319
@nicbuo8319 3 жыл бұрын
Great content
@craigalwine1741
@craigalwine1741 3 жыл бұрын
Great Info!
@peterohmart5954
@peterohmart5954 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Thank you
@bromporke
@bromporke 3 жыл бұрын
I just got a used 2005 steel cabinet-looking craftsman table saw for 25 DOLLARS and it looks brand new! Thanks for the tips, Bear! I woulda got something better but couldn’t pass up the deal.
@shorttermhobbyist
@shorttermhobbyist 3 жыл бұрын
my mom was clearing out my grandpas old tools to settle the estate. he had a craftman table saw very similar. covered in rust. she put it on market place for $100 and had people lining up around the block... i couldnt believe it
@padraicmcguire108
@padraicmcguire108 3 жыл бұрын
Bear You didn't go old enough on Craftsman. I have a matching 1958 Craftsman cabinet mounted table saw and floor mounted drill press. Scored them at an estate sale. Paid $150 for the saw, and $75 for the drill press. Included 2 cast iron extension wings for the saw. The saw has its original gear actuated fence, precision miter..
@SidebandSamurai
@SidebandSamurai 3 жыл бұрын
A great video Thanks a lot!
@grant.m.ball0603
@grant.m.ball0603 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite power tools are the 1980s to early 2000s Sears/Craftsman
@DivisionStreetDrums
@DivisionStreetDrums Жыл бұрын
this video made me chuckle
@terrytaylor8460
@terrytaylor8460 3 жыл бұрын
I have one of the Craftsman 113's with cast extensions. picked it up for $65 in a well taken care of working condition. I have made a few upgrades and its a great saw. Keep your eyes open and do some research. there are some really good deals out there.
@chuckfinley5206
@chuckfinley5206 3 жыл бұрын
Helpful video for those that have one they want to sell. Got my dad's old saw to sell.
@3800scgp
@3800scgp 3 жыл бұрын
I have the "hidden gem" craftsman- the trunion/motor assembly are mounted to the cabinet. There should also be an auxiliary fence, another fence for the miter gauge with a stop, and of course a guard with pawls and a splitter. The motor hangs down quite a bit, hence the plastic door on the right sticking out so far.
@mobiusflight5430
@mobiusflight5430 3 жыл бұрын
The one Craftsman saw is a 22114, zip code, saw. It has cabinet mounted trunions; well worth the asking price. I have had mine for 7 years and does everything I want to do
@ifitaintbroke7427
@ifitaintbroke7427 3 жыл бұрын
I have the DeWalt 8 1/4" table saw. I am a trim carpenter and it works just fine for what I do. It is just big enough for me to rip sheet goods, but that's only because it weighs just 2lbs less than the 10" version of the same saw. And the table is only 2" shorter. I also have a older craftsman stationary 10" table saw for at home work. I got that table saw for free from someone I worked with for a while, he didn't have room to haul it around and let me have it.
@awspartan4417
@awspartan4417 10 ай бұрын
Just ran across this video.I’m a noob to woodworking but not to high power industrial electrical work and medium skill in machine shop mill,lathe steel,stainless. Replacing a motor with an adapter to get a Delta very acceptable bargain. But this video is excellent to what I needed to know.
@Emang169
@Emang169 3 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on the skill saw table saw?
@traewatkins931
@traewatkins931 3 жыл бұрын
Ive had the Skil version of that blue Ryobi for 20 years, it is weak and the fence sucks but it does the job.
@jackson11b
@jackson11b 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Bear could you please do a video like this on routers. Include a quick mention of the best ones for using on a CNC machine if possible. Love these walkthroughs for what to look for and what makes a good tool.
@joedance14
@joedance14 3 жыл бұрын
The “skeletolized” extensions are called “web-style” cast iron extensions.
@rodcormier7428
@rodcormier7428 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought the 36-725t2 Delta.... no complaints at all for the money
@robjones8112
@robjones8112 2 жыл бұрын
I paid $60 for my Craftsman 113 & only had to true everything up, works like a champ
@ryanhawkins1235
@ryanhawkins1235 3 жыл бұрын
I had been considering selling my grandpa's 10 inch Craftsman table saw he bought new in 1984 or 1985 so I think I will keep it now. It has the stand with the so so wheels but it's really heavy so I believe it has the cast iron wings. It's packed away in my shed as I got it when clearing out the house after grandma passed in 2014 his basement shop had sat untouched since he passed in 2006 except for the random need for a tool or something for keeping up the house done my my uncle, dad or I.
@bartfoster1311
@bartfoster1311 3 жыл бұрын
I have that little ryobi to rip trim and small stuff. Works ok for that. I also have a free porter cable i need to add a piece to adjust the blade height, they had lost it. Lastly in storage, I have an old powrkraft that was my grandfathers, need more room for that heavy beast!
@pndamonium1241
@pndamonium1241 3 жыл бұрын
I would very much would like to see your take on the newest SKIL compact table saw. I think it’s been out there for over a year but there are little reviews on it online.
@darrinhaymon5650
@darrinhaymon5650 Жыл бұрын
I have an old craftsman cast iron table saw with flex drive and original fence. Saw an older used Delta Industrial saw with unifence for $150 and thought of upgrading. What are your thoughts.
@thodgson13
@thodgson13 3 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people have gotten into/ more into woodworking in their free time over the last year, which has driven up demand for used saws. I was looking for a Sawstop for a while and people were selling them used for brand new price. Regarding the job site saws, 3x3 Tamar does some pretty impressive work with hers, so I don't count them out for woodworking, although I think you'd still need a good one to get good cuts. Finally regarding unisaws, I feel like those prices are all over the place. I've seen them for $400 and $1000 in similar condition, nice but used. I thought about picking one up, but compared a $400 unisaw from the 60s with a not-so-great fence, 1hp motor, and no riving knife, I think the delta is still a better deal for most people. Most of my cuts aren't wide enough to get out into the wings anyways.
@ZackTheKack
@ZackTheKack 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you do this for planers, bandsaws, and jointers. I've noticed a huge disconnect between the US and Europe in power tool affordability. Cheapest, new, pretty good bandsaw here, right around $1500. All the European guys talk about a couple brands for half that over there.
@MrJunglebear1
@MrJunglebear1 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 60s version of the craftsman contractors saw with the motor that hangs out the back and it has all cast iron wings , for what it is it works just fine ,
@towboatjeff
@towboatjeff 3 жыл бұрын
Another thing to look at is what parts are available. My dad has a craftsman table saw that's probably 20 years old and there's no new parts anywhere for it. But the older model saws ya can still find new parts for those.
@stevensansone7502
@stevensansone7502 3 жыл бұрын
If it's sealed in the box, how are there pictures of it set up in a carpeted living room? (4:04)
@MrXstacey
@MrXstacey 3 ай бұрын
Had a 10” craftsman come my way for free today, everything but the mitre gauge included. Needs some tlc, but will be a good upgrade from my bottom of the line mastercraft
@patrickmclaughlin6013
@patrickmclaughlin6013 2 жыл бұрын
have an old Ryobi - the plastic parts start to just crack apart had an old Craftsman - the fence almost makes the saw useless
@normd5776
@normd5776 3 жыл бұрын
I got a 10" Delta Contractor Saw from a neighbor like what you showed, $60.
@chrisg1043
@chrisg1043 3 жыл бұрын
I am in Phoenix, but my dad is in Prescott valley. I might look that one up and if available I might grab it and then store it at my dad’s until I get my garage built...
@cduncan7768
@cduncan7768 3 жыл бұрын
Bear a review like this one on any of the large machines we use in a wood shop would be great.
@bob2906
@bob2906 3 жыл бұрын
I have a rigid table saw with the herculift lift on in it looks a lot like 14:53 my has cast iron wings I bought it new many years ago at home depot at Christmas time it was a great deal 399.00 free herculift kit It still a great saw in my opion.
@DownloaderVideo
@DownloaderVideo 3 жыл бұрын
Bear, I think I scored nicely. Just brought home a 1998 Delta Unisaw 3HP with a 52” Biesemeyer fence and extension with a WoodPeckers Router Lift and a Porter Cable 7518 production router, plus a ShopFox W1666 2HP 220v dust collector. All of the above in beautiful condition for $400. What do you think?
@stringguy2825
@stringguy2825 Ай бұрын
I've watched a couple reviews on the Skil 10" rolling table saw and it looks like the rolling stand is the best on the market. However, I'm not sure about the worm drive motor, and changing the oil on a saw seems like a hassle. I'm trying to decide between it and the Delta contractor saw. Could you do a side by side review on both saws?
@woodworkinginwheelchair7175
@woodworkinginwheelchair7175 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the rts10 ryobi saw for 55.00 I need a kickback and guard also thing splits the wood after it go through blade
@anthonylawrence9307
@anthonylawrence9307 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Tool Bear, I commented on getting the super cheap Harbor Freight table saw. Well my notes... The saw is cheap but all I needed was a saw to install a laminate floor. I may never need to use it again. With that said... I would NOT get this saw if I were going to do furniture or cabinets or anything I needed precise cuts. Now the funny story... I had the opportunity to have my dad's old Craftsman table saw. The problem was it was a 1950 and weighed 200 pounds.
@DownsFamily2023
@DownsFamily2023 Жыл бұрын
my uncle gave my a shopcraft 10in table saw to get started in woodworking, but i cant seem to find anything on it.
@salgiordano9937
@salgiordano9937 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Ryobi tablesaw with the folding mobile stand. The motor jerked so violently on startup that it would knock the blade tilt out of alignment. I upgraded to the Ridgid cast iron saw and never looked back.
@scharkalvin
@scharkalvin 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a Rigid table saw (14:53) that looks like the one you showed, not sure if it's the exact same model. Don't think I paid much more that that price NEW. Mine didn't come with the wheeled stand (I built my own mobile base from plans in Wood magazine) or the hangers for the fence and rip guide. The belt driven motor works OK (wish it could be re-wired for 240v), but there is some wobble (or at least a weird sound) in the bearings of the arbor, doesn't show in cuts though. Has thin metal wings, probably the same fence. Has blade guard and riving knife. BTW, the Rigid is my third table saw. First one was a cheap Craftsman with short wings, no stand. I mounted it on a third party stand (from Sears). Was barely OK cutting sheet goods. Had a direct drive motor hanging from the top. I replaced it with a larger Delta that also had a direct drive motor, this saw came with a stand (non mobile base). I kept it until the motor failed, then got the Rigid.
@PurdueJHanna
@PurdueJHanna 3 жыл бұрын
I own the Craftsman hybrid used in the Yes section of the thumbanil. I bought it new 10 yrs ago for about $400. It's decent. Once I put an Incra fence on it (of course your fence should cost as much as your saw, right?) it because really good. Yeah, I'd like more horsepower, but this thing goes through 3/4" ply, oak, pine, walnut, etc... without any complaint. This particular saw was sold under various brand names. I know Rigid had one, as mine has Rigid crank handles on it. The original Craftsman handles both broke and I have been unable to source correct replacements. I know Menards sold this saw under their Masterforce brand, also. If you find one on the used market and are looking for a reliable entry-mid level woodworking saw, seriously consider getting it.
@FierceSleepingDog
@FierceSleepingDog 3 жыл бұрын
I have that saw too. Best $450 I've spent. 10 years and still going. The fence sucks, but I get by. I bought and Incra mitre sled....fantastic.
@stringguy2825
@stringguy2825 Ай бұрын
How about the Skil 10" rolling table saw?
@THROTTLEPOWER
@THROTTLEPOWER 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vid!!! 👍👌👍👌
@cliffloyd5557
@cliffloyd5557 3 жыл бұрын
Was it just cause I was watching on my phone but everytime he zoomed in it was cut off?
@paulhopkins1905
@paulhopkins1905 3 жыл бұрын
Unisaw has a massive disadvantage being they are right tilt saw, you have to move the fence to the left of the blade to make angled cuts or it will likely throw a chunk of wood into your gut. The advantage lf right tilt is the arbor faces left, which means you don't have to compensate for blade thickness on your gauge, as the inside of the blade is static. That Powermatic and Unisaw are lifetime saws
@stevesiefken6432
@stevesiefken6432 3 жыл бұрын
What’s up with the Delta 36-725 table saw? Lowe’s no longer selling this and it’s not on Amazon either. What have your heard?
@thomasthedoubter6813
@thomasthedoubter6813 Жыл бұрын
In my neck of the woods (Northwest Ohio), you can buy Craftsman 10 inch 3hp saws all day long anywhere from 80 to 200 dollars, depending on features
@netrunner1987
@netrunner1987 3 жыл бұрын
The problem I had with the Ryobi are the dog ears on the miter slots.
@ricardocastillo880
@ricardocastillo880 3 жыл бұрын
I bought one of those craftsmann 10in cast iron wings for 100 those things are solid, except for the the tilting crank kind of sucks it bent the sheet metal to where the screw is attached to
@RatedRWoodturning
@RatedRWoodturning 3 жыл бұрын
Used tool prices have skyrocketed since covid. I've sold a few to upgrade. Its definitely a sellers market currently
@nailbender6884
@nailbender6884 3 жыл бұрын
Best deal of all is the $2,500 for all the tools. Maybe the 2 Unisaws if they have the Beysmeyer fecnce.
@mrkattm
@mrkattm 3 жыл бұрын
I picked up a Craftsman Professional cabinet saw with a biesemeyer fence from Craig's list for $90.00 ... point being there are a ton of deals out there you just need to wait your time.
@kuehnel16
@kuehnel16 3 жыл бұрын
I sold a craftsman like the one for 250 and now I'm kicking myself. It was a great saw especially if you wired it 220
@davidwalle5025
@davidwalle5025 3 жыл бұрын
dayton motors are sold by grainger. A true 5 hp motor on 120 single phase does really exist. The big delta saw 5hp 3 phase will need 220 and a phase converter most houses do not have 3 phase. Good video. Shine on Bear
@kenneely7899
@kenneely7899 3 жыл бұрын
When going from 3phase to single phase a variable frequency drive might be a better way to go. Will have variable speed.
@RussThacher
@RussThacher 3 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a table saw for over a year now. My wife keeps asking me to look used and in my research, used saws are over priced and parts are damn near impossible to find if needed. By the time I'd have purchased the used saw and fixed it up I could buy a brand new one. I'd love to get the Delta you show throughout this video.
@denoftools
@denoftools 3 жыл бұрын
Tell her that the Bear agrees with you. It sucks but it's true.
@kaixiangwang7148
@kaixiangwang7148 Жыл бұрын
I found a used delta 36-725t2. What does that saw worth for used fair condition to you?
@denoftools
@denoftools Жыл бұрын
Between 4 to 500, depending on the condition of the saw
@thebetamaxman
@thebetamaxman 3 жыл бұрын
No old beavers for sale down there?
@murphymmc
@murphymmc 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting thing about the Ridgid portable stand saws. I have the first model, very good job site saw, soft start, stable, good fence, strong motor. Most of the parts are now obsolete. It is a pretty heavy portable table saw. Next gen saw has the piston assist setup, very nice, it's also about 35% lighter in weight, no soft start, keeping the blade at 90 degrees to the table is a pain as the tightening nuts are in the rear by exhaust port. Height adjuster wheel fails easily. First gen is a better tool, second gen stand is good. Second gen should retail for about $100 less than it does. Tools should get better, not lower in quality and durability. Sadly, it's still better than most out there for a portable saw.
@stanmondzelewski9253
@stanmondzelewski9253 Жыл бұрын
The old craftsman 113s are going for 100-120 in GA. Paid 100 for mine. Fence sucks,miter gauge sucks to. 1hp is kinda weak. You can still find router table wings for em to
@dhm7815
@dhm7815 3 жыл бұрын
That Ryobi with the ventilated aluminum table for $60 appears to be the same a Harbor Freight's cheapie. When I use my HF saw with the fence, I have to check the fence from one of the grooves on the table with the millimeter side of a ruler. Otherwise the fence will not be parallel to the blade and will produce a marvelous kickback event. If you are stuck with a one car garage or a shed it will work.
@rockymntain
@rockymntain Жыл бұрын
The Warrior table saw currently at HF has a better fence than the Chicago Elec. one.
@porthose2002
@porthose2002 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this kind of video, Red. May I ask you to consider doing similar videos for other types of tools? For instance, I'm looking for both a horizontal (metal) and vertical (wood) band saw and struggling to figure out whether used is the right approach. I'm perfectly willing to do restoration, so that's not a problem. What I don't know enough about are the various features that would justify a new purchase vs. used.
@singlespeedyoda
@singlespeedyoda 3 жыл бұрын
Do a video on buyers guide for band saws, drill presses and miter saws.
@brentirwin10
@brentirwin10 3 жыл бұрын
The miter gauge that's on the Rockwell is a Shopsmith miter.
@bluemantom77
@bluemantom77 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I took my late uncle tape saw it was is good shape he had a Delta old school version at the time he brought it you could still buy a radio arm saw new
@timhunt7830
@timhunt7830 3 жыл бұрын
Yea I’d like to see some about bandsaws. I’ve been in the market for one. A smaller one. Got a craftsman 9” 1/2hp. $100. It was crap lol. Then I got a wen 10” for 135 it’s a return some one bought at action. It’s good. I like it alot. Resaw 6” capacity so that’s nice.
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