Who Controlled Jerusalem the Longest?

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2 жыл бұрын

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@UsefulCharts
@UsefulCharts 2 жыл бұрын
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@hansolowe19
@hansolowe19 2 жыл бұрын
You could have done a top 5 and have room to spare 🥺
@bosbanon3452
@bosbanon3452 2 жыл бұрын
Hello i have a simmiliar request on Mecca and Medina, who hold those holy city for the longest time, i am curious about the famitid and the sharifian Dynasty rule on that city, the sharifian Dynasty or today the hashemite of Jordan has held that region since fatimid era and keep hold those city until the Ottoman era but as vassal , they have become vassal of the fatimid , ayyubid , mamalik , Abbasid( ayyubid and mamalik both were nominal vassal of abbasid) and the Ottoman z they being defeated by the Saudi Arabia like in your Asian monarch chart , o have to ask you because of the sectenarian tendency i have. Sorry for telling you this, but the salafi sect claimed the those two holy city always at their hand , yeah i have sectenarian intention but what they claim is very far from the truth , i cannot let this false claim
@bosbanon3452
@bosbanon3452 2 жыл бұрын
By explaining that Mecca and Medina plus Jerusalem wasn't in their hand you also have take part in undermine extrimism
@youkurban
@youkurban 2 жыл бұрын
who was Jerusalem gold construction. do you know?
@hansolowe19
@hansolowe19 2 жыл бұрын
@@youkurban can you rephrase that? I don't understand.
@kivikallo4313
@kivikallo4313 2 жыл бұрын
Mom said it's my turn to control Jerusalem
@Scrubermensch
@Scrubermensch 2 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHA
@thebandit0256
@thebandit0256 2 жыл бұрын
I am suppose to have it when the Big three finally settle their Difference
@M.A.Palestine313
@M.A.Palestine313 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebandit0256 until the time comes!
@catholicusmaan
@catholicusmaan 2 жыл бұрын
LOL
@Jeens24668
@Jeens24668 2 жыл бұрын
OMG! Are you the Missiah?
@theascendunt9960
@theascendunt9960 8 ай бұрын
It's insane to think that the Mongols tried to fight for Jerusalem! Speaks volumes about how vast their empire and the reach was. Damn!
@Ragnarok__
@Ragnarok__ 8 ай бұрын
Even Further. the city would go to the crusaders. The Mongols were fighting for Egypt, probably all of North Africa was their final objective.
@rhetoric5173
@rhetoric5173 8 ай бұрын
Only reason the Fatimids were separated was to hand the numbers 🤡
@ktcarl
@ktcarl 8 ай бұрын
Can you imagine the logistics of a government from Mongolia(China) conquering and ruling Jerusalem?!?!
@nirwana07
@nirwana07 8 ай бұрын
​@@ktcarlit wasnt controlled from mongolia or china. it was indipendent warlords freedom to decide
@Caligrl1044
@Caligrl1044 8 ай бұрын
They destroyed Iraq and most muslin countries
@Puptoon2022
@Puptoon2022 4 ай бұрын
It’s kinda funny how the nations that dominated Jerusalem the longest are in opposite order that the religions are in.
@heyhakim8314
@heyhakim8314 3 ай бұрын
the whole graph has been green since 600 AD but the guy still manages to put the Romans and the Jews at the top of the ranking! intellectual dishonesty... the truth is that Jerusalem has been in a Muslim fold for 14 centuries, that is the truth
@bait5257
@bait5257 2 ай бұрын
Sorry can you explain what that means?? Even though my English isn't that bad , i still couldn't understand it
@arandomlemon6707
@arandomlemon6707 2 ай бұрын
​​@@bait5257 Of the 3 Abrahamic religions Judism is the oldest, Christianity came next, and Islam came last. The Muslims of Islam owned Jerusalem longer than the Christians, who owned it longer than the Jews. Basically, the younger religions had the holy land longer than the oldest
@bait5257
@bait5257 2 ай бұрын
@@arandomlemon6707 thx for explaining 👍😊.
@peterdavis4157
@peterdavis4157 Ай бұрын
​@@arandomlemon6707owned?
@samuelspace101
@samuelspace101 14 күн бұрын
Archeologists: Every 2 feet you dig is another empire
@lorrainegatanianhits8331
@lorrainegatanianhits8331 7 ай бұрын
Imagine being an archeologist or geologist studying jerusalem. Must be fascinating to have so much cultural change embedded in the ground/remains.
@uberdonkey9721
@uberdonkey9721 6 ай бұрын
I visited, and what amazed me is the Roman architecture is actually some of the newer stuff. They have to dig through this to get to the pre Roman buildings. Truly a historic city.
@youssefdirani
@youssefdirani 5 ай бұрын
I believe we should call for a referendum made by true original land owners (Palestineans, including native Palestinean jews) and they decide the state they want. Simple. Very simple. It's not a thousands of years matter. Zionism is danger and should not be adopted by a state.
@RobespierreThePoof
@RobespierreThePoof 5 ай бұрын
It is a challenging place for archeology because of the sensitive politics and the religious demands that the public often tries to place on the practice of archeology. It also is famous for drawing lots of pseudoarcheology, as are al sites with any connection to the bible. Curiously, however, most of the pseudoarcheology is from a Christian POV.
@RylishZaliou12
@RylishZaliou12 5 ай бұрын
@@youssefdiraninah, the Arabs and Palestinian are the people this world don’t need, and are happy to get rid of for their own interests 😌.
@hanojo6098
@hanojo6098 5 ай бұрын
Archaeologists been searching for salmon temple for years they don't find it till now . Either there is no salmon temple and it is just religious myths that have nothing to do with real history, or they are searching in the wrong country. They should try to searche for salmon temple in Iran or Africa or yemeni
@susannemontagnemslmtryt7885
@susannemontagnemslmtryt7885 7 ай бұрын
Based on this presentation, Italy should administrate Jerusalem. Muslims can use the Dome on Friday, Jews on Saturday, and Christians on Sunday. Monday thru Thursday it is open to tourists.
@foreverraining1522
@foreverraining1522 7 ай бұрын
lol u fool
@kennye6088
@kennye6088 7 ай бұрын
Why? What is your position base on.?
@TheEmpressWhohasitall
@TheEmpressWhohasitall 7 ай бұрын
In islam, we pray 5 times a day and everyday, not only on fridays. ❤
@kasurtipis2439
@kasurtipis2439 7 ай бұрын
@@TheEmpressWhohasitall and Jews pray 3 times every day, not only on Saturday.
@TheEmpressWhohasitall
@TheEmpressWhohasitall 7 ай бұрын
@@kasurtipis2439 you tagged the wrong person 🙏🏼
@mbsouthflorida
@mbsouthflorida 6 ай бұрын
Cool video, thanks for creating it!
@KristinaIsUpset
@KristinaIsUpset 4 ай бұрын
honestly the only conclusion i can draw from this is that, no matter who controls it or what solution is drawn up, it wont last for long
@eb6510
@eb6510 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see more of these city charts, maybe for places like Rome, Istanbul, or London. It's interesting to see how broader historical events can impact specific places.
@Jay_Johnson
@Jay_Johnson 2 жыл бұрын
Those cities have far fewer times that they change hands. Jerusalem was always on the periphery of larger empires so changed hands quite often. Those cities were the centres of empires.
@10509054
@10509054 2 жыл бұрын
@Dawood Aamir yes, it was always besieged, but the Romans always held it, only failing in 1204 and 1453. Istanbul didn't change hands that much.
@sadaasdafa8635
@sadaasdafa8635 Жыл бұрын
London could be interesting between the Roman invasion up to the unification of England as it changed hands a few times during the Viking era. However after that it’s not really worth continuing as it would always be a part of England/Great Britain.
@mrquokka4733
@mrquokka4733 Жыл бұрын
factual factual factual factual factual factual factual factual factual factual factual
@Rubbabandman
@Rubbabandman Жыл бұрын
It’s Constantinople.
@belialord
@belialord 2 жыл бұрын
0:23 I always thought Jerusalem was the most besieged city in history, but it's actually Constantinople... 34 times
@robertjarman3703
@robertjarman3703 2 жыл бұрын
Watched Emperor Tigerstar talking about it too?
@belialord
@belialord 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertjarman3703 I don't remember where I learned it but yeah I think perhaps it was him
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Rome as well -it was besieged many times starting with the Gauls in 300 BC and then by many others like Hannibal then the Vandals and Goths/the Byzantines too/the Goths again and the worst occupation of the lot was in about 1517 when the armies of the Holy Roman Empire of Charles V who was fighting the pope is supposed to have wreaked more death and destruction than any of the ancient sieges and plundering.
@shaybs
@shaybs 2 жыл бұрын
Constantinople was Napolean's dream city and dream world capital. It is one hell of a city.
@pa9030
@pa9030 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaloarepo288 i doubt rome was besieged more than 30 times if even that much. Edit: probably not even close to 15 times
@mohammedalariefy6489
@mohammedalariefy6489 6 ай бұрын
Beautifully written and explained. Thank you
@avoidtheherd7066
@avoidtheherd7066 6 ай бұрын
Great history lesson! Much needed. Well done!
@livehappyfull
@livehappyfull 17 күн бұрын
This is a misleading crap!
@HistoryandHeadlines
@HistoryandHeadlines 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how important one city could be to so many people!
@bunglebutts3163
@bunglebutts3163 2 жыл бұрын
yes it is!
@goealshafay425
@goealshafay425 2 жыл бұрын
Meh Constantinople is More important with much more sieges and alot of cool names
@bunglebutts3163
@bunglebutts3163 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremias-serus israel is committing genocide on the palestinians
@sixxfinga1864
@sixxfinga1864 2 жыл бұрын
@@goealshafay425 lmao where . They still fighting for Jerusalem they not fighting for Istanbul
@LordS20000
@LordS20000 2 жыл бұрын
Let's fix it! it should be a Atheist Ohio controlled city. No religion allowed in the city. Why? Because YOU ALL WON'T PLAY NICELY. why ohio? because it's all ohio
@Oscar.Carmona
@Oscar.Carmona 8 ай бұрын
I'm amazed at the amount of misinformation on media. Well it should not surprise me. So many look at history since 1900s and don't understand the amount of conflict this land has had. This is an important video! Thank you
@jabber1990
@jabber1990 8 ай бұрын
The middle east has been at war for thousands of years, but people think it's only been an issue since 1917
@-gemberkoekje-5547
@-gemberkoekje-5547 8 ай бұрын
That sounds more like illinformation then disinformation.
@asemyamak3984
@asemyamak3984 8 ай бұрын
Currently ILLEGALY OCCUPIED BY THE ZIONIST STATE. Jews lived there 1300 BCE, but that does not mean they can come now and colonize it! Imagine if descendants of Pharo come and say we want Egypt back, ancient Egypt was ours 2000+ years ago, and now I want my Egypt. INSANE. WHAT IS HAPPENING IS INSANITY
@nikytiky
@nikytiky 8 ай бұрын
@@asemyamak3984 Jews were THERE TILL 636 CE. Only during / after Caliph Umar's invasion... the JEWS were totally driven out of their land. New Temple which was NEVER THERE before... was built on the same destroyed site of the Jewish Temple!!! Usurping somebody's land and religious sites!! IF.... the Pharoh's happen to return and have the required POWER to reclaim their land... give it back... and return to where you belong...to the place from where you started conquering all the adjacent lands...... the Arabian Deserts! Digest it and learn to coexist 'Salaam'fully.
@nikytiky
@nikytiky 8 ай бұрын
@@asemyamak3984 Caliph Umar, Salaudin, Ottomans legally occupied that area?! 😂😂
@m070sam
@m070sam 4 ай бұрын
I think that Greece Turkey Italy and Egypt should reclaim Jerusalem 😂😂
@user-bw4jm1bv1i
@user-bw4jm1bv1i 14 күн бұрын
That's what I was thinking. Let's give it back to Egypt, they were there first (that's the usual argument these days isn't it) 😂
@PHLCoffeeSnob
@PHLCoffeeSnob 14 күн бұрын
Egypt can't even run the Sinai Peninsula, as it's controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood and Isis/DaEsh
@mikelikesguitaralot
@mikelikesguitaralot 6 ай бұрын
Based on it's history, I believe it should be one state tolerant of all religions as well as equal representation. In my opinion, the two state solution will alienate people further, and create conflict/boarder wars down the line.
@cunctator3401
@cunctator3401 5 ай бұрын
Muslim rulership solved all the problems,all it took is angloid imperialists to cause years of war
@jaronimo1976
@jaronimo1976 5 ай бұрын
When it's one state, the muhammedans will try to get in power, and dominate over Jews and Christians. If they make one state with Jews and Palestinians, the Palestinians will try to take over. They will try to get more and more children, until they have larger numbers, than marginalise non muhammedans.
@Thumper17
@Thumper17 4 ай бұрын
Jerusalem itself should be a UN administered Neutral city or something. Some sort of Secular council to mediate issues between religious groups.
@Raptor810Blue
@Raptor810Blue 4 ай бұрын
Equal representation wouldn’t happen with an Arab-majority population, because they are by and large anti-democratic.
@MakeEuropaGreatAgain
@MakeEuropaGreatAgain 3 ай бұрын
@@Thumper17 No, that will only work for a short amount of time. The Jews will always claim Jerusalem, it's their most important city, for Christians it is also the holiest city, But we know when Jesus was in Jerusalem it was Jewish so why should we fight the Jews to make it Christian. we could take Jerusalem in 1 day I promise you, but we can never keep it, because the Jews will always want it back and respect for that. We could take it and make it UN Neutral city, but in 200 years there is no UN, paradigms changes, but forever Jerusalem is the Jews's home, you people don't understand this. As an ally of Israel we can only support them, and hope they will be kind to the descendants of those who conquered their home.
@DrEvoProducer
@DrEvoProducer 8 ай бұрын
He made this a year ago, not knowing how applicable and essential it will be in Oct. Of 2023 👏👏 Bravo 🎉
@everythingisalllies2141
@everythingisalllies2141 8 ай бұрын
The root cause of the wars is because of religious nutters, Muslims and Jews and Christians. NONE of them have ANY right to rule over a land, They are just religions. People who live there need to run the place, and their religious faith should stay in their homes, never brought into consideration in real life. The people that live there, come from many nations and cultures, they are multicultural, no religious cult gets to lord it over the next cult of religious nutters.
@ElJuaritozz
@ElJuaritozz 8 ай бұрын
Yea it’s like dude had a feeling
@geedee7632
@geedee7632 8 ай бұрын
Problem is its of prophecy in biblical scriptures Scrolls 📜 🤔 hmmm??
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 8 ай бұрын
@@geedee7632 Which prophecy exactly are you referencing?
@stoopidapples1596
@stoopidapples1596 8 ай бұрын
I mean, it wouldn't be that surprising if you told him a year ago that a conflict was going to start again between Israel and Palestine. It's sorta been on and off for the past 80 years.
@SarudeDanstorm
@SarudeDanstorm 2 жыл бұрын
Going into this video I kindof rolled my eyes at the thought of "yet another KZbin video which would probably devolve into bias", but was pleasantly surprised to see nothing glossed over in early history and a fairly objective view of the whole matter. Well done! Edit: Do not delve into the replies to my comment if you value your sanity. To the commenters, never change.
@Nooticus
@Nooticus 2 жыл бұрын
You clearly did not know the sheer level of quality regularly found on this channel then!
@SarudeDanstorm
@SarudeDanstorm 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nooticus Clearly I do not. I've seen a good number of their videos, but this topic in particular I have seen cause pitfalls in many history youtubers before.
@thegamingwolf5612
@thegamingwolf5612 2 жыл бұрын
@@SarudeDanstorm how would something like this devolve into bias
@SarudeDanstorm
@SarudeDanstorm 2 жыл бұрын
@@thegamingwolf5612 Depending on the author's bias, discussion on the ownership or the religion of the Levant usually glosses over the periods of time when it was under a religion they do not like - thus giving the respective periods far less attention and appearing to the audience as unimportant.
@EL-oj6uq
@EL-oj6uq 2 жыл бұрын
Not really, since it was under Israeli control it was mainly jewish but he made it only have jewish
@abigailskatz
@abigailskatz 6 ай бұрын
If we're using the Bible as a historical source, I'm curious why you started counting from the reign of David and not from the conquest of Joshua, which would have added several hundred years to the "Judaism" tally. Thanks for a great video!
@aegis408
@aegis408 4 ай бұрын
Because there are no records to suggest a Jewish exodus from Egypt, nor is there evidence to suggest Joshua’s conquest of Jericho. The story of the Exodus is false because the Israelites always lived in Canaan alongside the Canaanites. Sorry to break it to you
@hdhdhjhehehej-db9vm
@hdhdhjhehehej-db9vm 4 ай бұрын
Not exactly. There are a lot of points that prove the exodus is based on reality. Just not like the Bible says.
@analuciagenessanche9986
@analuciagenessanche9986 3 ай бұрын
@@aegis408 She said using the bible as a historical source
@mattk791
@mattk791 2 ай бұрын
@@aegis408Leave it to some guy on youtube to tell you what happened. Rather than a 3,000 year old collection of testimony. Let me tell you something very important: A lack of history from one nation does not discredit a surplus of evidence from another nation. Especially since the Jews, I dare to say, are the only group of people in the middle east to have survived from ancient times to present day. The egyptians are gone, the persians are gone, the babylonians are gone, the assyrians are gone, the phillistines are gone, the Hittites are gone, and the list goes on. Their records left abandoned or destroyed.
@ayzmalo5553
@ayzmalo5553 2 ай бұрын
there is some archaelogical evidence crediting David's existence but not Joshua's existence
@bratzoc1785
@bratzoc1785 4 ай бұрын
Well you forgot to add that the Canaanties control the lands for (est) 600 years before Egypt arrived
@WaiLoon
@WaiLoon 8 ай бұрын
This is BY FAR THE BEST historical & factual presentation of the timeline of Jerusalem. Love all your videos. Please continue your great work. Supporting from the South East Asia, Malaysia 🇲🇾
@freesoul82
@freesoul82 8 ай бұрын
Saya sokong brader
@joaquinpraveenvishnu8509
@joaquinpraveenvishnu8509 8 ай бұрын
I concur!
@asafheller5720
@asafheller5720 8 ай бұрын
Only that is not factual. This info is misleading. The Jebusite tribe were the one living in the region of Jerusalem, their capital was called Jebuse, part of it was occupied the rest Kind David bought with money to build the City of David which later was the site for Solomon Temple since his son finished the construction of the Temple. Israelites always lived in this land they didn't just came from the Exudes in Egypt, the conquest over the land of Canaan specify the name of the tribes they defeated in that time. Arabic as a language evolved much much later with the influence of Yemenite tribe that immigrated to the Petra area which are called Nabataeans, later they returned to the Arabian peninsula influencing the local language forming the Arabic language, this is after the Roman arrival to the region by the way, meaning thousand years before Arabs even knew what Salam means. Phoenician which is the more early form of Hebrew was one of the oldest languages in the region even influencing Greek, evolving parallel to Sumerian which in between the nations had Aramaic from kingdom of Aram, this fake info makes it look like the Arab claims to the city make some sense, Arab's didn't exist outside the Arabian peninsula until the 7th century during the Islamic caliphate occupation, that's common knowledge.
@mabs503
@mabs503 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's really interesting that the city has been totally destroyed several times and also most of it's citizens killed, and still it's been rebuilt by new people over and over.
@TheDanEdwards
@TheDanEdwards 2 жыл бұрын
Anywhere humans have lived for thousands of years has seen wars and replacements of populations.
@nkenchington6575
@nkenchington6575 2 жыл бұрын
its citizens
@Yora21
@Yora21 2 жыл бұрын
It's just a really good location.
@SplendidFactor
@SplendidFactor 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine that's what happened to Troy.
@iamfunnyipromise9605
@iamfunnyipromise9605 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus said ''The citizens of Jerusalem will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. *Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles* until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled''. Luke 21:24. Recorded by Luke around 60 AD, before the destruction of Jerusalem.
@JAHtony1111
@JAHtony1111 5 ай бұрын
Great vid. Thanks.
@hadror13
@hadror13 Ай бұрын
You also don't mention the state of the city under each occupier! When did the city thrive and when was it a war torn dump?
@KarltonFranz
@KarltonFranz Ай бұрын
It would only take hours and hours to talk about what you're asking for
@ImperialImplant
@ImperialImplant 23 күн бұрын
The city always thrived under Muslim rule
@KarltonFranz
@KarltonFranz 23 күн бұрын
@@ImperialImplant blud says that like he was there all 1000+ years
@spladoinkk
@spladoinkk 18 күн бұрын
@@ImperialImplant that is NOT true bud
@smavi4133
@smavi4133 16 күн бұрын
@@KarltonFranzblud never heard of history sciences and the scientific evaluation of historical sources and thinks that history is based on hearsay.
@rayankhan5025
@rayankhan5025 Жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that when the first Muslims took Jerusalem, they found that the Christians had kicked all of the Jews out. It was the Muslims who actively brought in and re-established Jewish presence because the city was sacred to them as well.
@rimiadoss9792
@rimiadoss9792 Жыл бұрын
Oh 😂
@iaminpain58
@iaminpain58 Жыл бұрын
They be regretting that now 💀
@caniblmolstr4503
@caniblmolstr4503 Жыл бұрын
If you ask any Jew to answer this question objectively they will answer in the same manner Islam or Christianity which is closer to Judaism? The answer would be Islam. The present problems are more political than religious.
@i_likemen5614
@i_likemen5614 Жыл бұрын
Yet zionists love to claim the arabs "colonized" Palestine LOL
@atlasatlantis8447
@atlasatlantis8447 Жыл бұрын
Now the Muslims know why the Christians kicked them out.
@comb528491
@comb528491 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the various sects and schisms within Judaism? Especially the second temple period? Also, I would like to know the differences between the rabbinical Judaism and the Pharisees and where they differed in regards to theology (cuz we all know they that Rabbinical Judaism offshooted from the Pharisees Sect, but they weren't identical)
@adrianblake8876
@adrianblake8876 2 жыл бұрын
Rabbinical Judaism were the pharisees, at least that is what the texts they produced suggests. Their rival group was called the Sadducees...
@coffeeortea547
@coffeeortea547 2 жыл бұрын
Oooo! I wonder if Matt can talk about controversies caused by potential contradictions in the writings of the different authors. On the top of my head, it's more of a Christian schism but it's Old Testament: I wonder if scholars believe Exodus 20:4 to be written by the same author(s) as let's say Exodus 25:18-22. Those seem to be the two most commonly talked about lines in the iconoclast/iconophile thingy.
@marceloorellana5726
@marceloorellana5726 2 жыл бұрын
After the Second temple period? It's called Christianity.
@bitkower
@bitkower 2 жыл бұрын
Sam Aranow has a lot of good videos on Jewish History, definitely covering that period.
@blayzertrayl8929
@blayzertrayl8929 2 жыл бұрын
You can ask the same about the various sects and schism within Islam? Which were even more varied and disparate during that entire timeline. Today the Arabs don't even acknowledge the Ottomans. So much so, turkish tv series Ertugal is NOT shown and/or banned in Arab nations. Lol
@vicrai578
@vicrai578 4 ай бұрын
I would have liked for Jerusalem to become a city-state of its own, where all religions would be represented equally. I think it’s the most symbolic place to try and create such a place where freedom and respect of religion reigns supreme
@jonnymcgrath4816
@jonnymcgrath4816 4 ай бұрын
All religions or just the 3 Abrahamic religions?
@vicrai578
@vicrai578 4 ай бұрын
@@jonnymcgrath4816 All religions. Even though there has only been (mostly) these three religions in control of Jerusalem, there’s few other cities in the world that have seen so much religious conflicts between religions still existing today as a major religion. So Buddhism, Hinduism or Taoism for examplr wouldn’t be excluded either Even though realistically the actual people in the city would probably be mostly just jewish and muslim
@Spadegaming321
@Spadegaming321 4 ай бұрын
Do not let paganism enter Jerusalem 🙏🙏
@bluemist3115
@bluemist3115 3 ай бұрын
It was offered with the 2 state solution and Jerusalem being international. but the arabs rejected it. greed and ego is a hell of a thing
@alicequayle4625
@alicequayle4625 3 ай бұрын
​@@bluemist3115 the Palestinians say the deal they were offered was crap.
@jameswohlgemuth1421
@jameswohlgemuth1421 6 ай бұрын
Great job
@who167
@who167 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the count of the control by religions, I find it inaccurate for the Arab Empire segment. The period of Jerusalem under the Rashidiun till the 1st Crusade was still a mostly Christian city, although under Islamic rule. Jews were banned from the city under Roman law since the Bar Kochba revolt (other than in the brief Persian period), and so the city had a Christian population beforehand. When the Rashidiun conquered the city and the region in general, they did not replace or forcefully convert anyone, rather Jews and Christians ("Ahl al Qitab", people of the book) lived under a set of Islamic laws. In general, after the Arab conquest of this region, the conversion of locals to Islam was particularly slow and not on large scale at all, unlike places such as Persia which converted almost in an instant.
@mustipunyaemail
@mustipunyaemail 2 жыл бұрын
Why media now tell Islam will force ppl to convert or kill them? Propaganda?
@who167
@who167 2 жыл бұрын
@@mustipunyaemail Probably people taking the Islamic State and thinking that they represent all of Islam, although to be fair it was Jews and Christians (and Zoroastrians?) who were not forced to convert, Pagans for example were definitely forced in some places...
@postyoda1623
@postyoda1623 2 жыл бұрын
There was no instant conversion in Persia either. First known mosque in Persia was dated to 10th century and until then and even afterwards for many decades, many people known to history from that area didn't have Arabic names. The Caliphates didn't really like when people converted to Islam because this lowered their tax revenue, conversion was mostly a very gradual process of intermingling and absorption.
@getreal3148
@getreal3148 2 жыл бұрын
@@postyoda1623 I really can't remember what was the name of the book but I have a memory of reading somewhere e that even untill the 10th century there were a ton of Zoroastrians in Persia, probably a majority
@postyoda1623
@postyoda1623 2 жыл бұрын
@@getreal3148 I think you may have "In God's Path" by Robert Hoyland in mind.
@bakubread9308
@bakubread9308 7 ай бұрын
I'm glad you counted the Byzantines as the Romans, because while the distinction is important, it'd feel disingeuous to call the direct continuation of the same empire a "different" owner Edit: ware the replies, people here LOVE to pretend that romans aren't romans because their capital city moved
@irdorath356
@irdorath356 7 ай бұрын
Well Latin and Greek is quite the difference. Different people, so how is the "owner" the same?
@tock02
@tock02 7 ай бұрын
@@irdorath356 Well, Greek speaking Romans still consider themselves as Romans. They were the Roman Empire. I guess it would be similar if English speaking Canada were to be conquered by someone but the French speaking area would remain being Canada and their inhabitants would keep feeling and being called Canadian.
@irdorath356
@irdorath356 7 ай бұрын
@@tock02 Well, only the ruling elite had SOME Roman origin, not even all of them. As for the population, it genetically always remained Greek or Eastern or whatever.
@bakubread9308
@bakubread9308 7 ай бұрын
@@irdorath356 the fact is that they referred to themselves as romans, continued every roman institution that was present, etc. it's not like someone came in and conquered the eastern half of the empire and proclaimed themselves romans, it was the same people, the rest of the mediterannean (and the persians, and arabs, and pretty much all subsequent muslims that battled them) considered them the romans as well, until it was more convenient to pretend they weren't romans so they could claim that lineage instead. Ethnicity and Nationality are two entirely different things.
@irdorath356
@irdorath356 7 ай бұрын
@@bakubread9308 pretty much any Germanic tribe resettled on Roman territory called themselves Romans and adopted the Imperial lifestyle. Longbeards an Ostrogoths at least posessed the city of Rome, unlike the Byzantines.
@samuelspace101
@samuelspace101 14 күн бұрын
I would take note here, because of the very recent debate on who owns Isreal and because the first couple hundred years of Judaisms being disputed, there is no one way we can define the time Jews controled the city, and if were getting extremely technical, many different branches of Islam also controlled the city, so no one religion really did own the city more then any other.
@alexsmart5452
@alexsmart5452 Ай бұрын
Jerusalem; the only city where the controlling nation is told to share its Government with those trying to destroy it that same nation and people. We dont say it about Constantinople/Istanbul but the same basic argument could be made.
@ezra7088
@ezra7088 2 жыл бұрын
This was an interesting video. As a Jew, I appreciate you mentioning the Palestinians at the end and giving Jews and Muslims both years, as this was glossed over at my Jewish school and would not have been mentioned. I agree that the history is an important factor, but I think what is happening there now is what is most important in deciding a solution. I think a one state solution where all religions were accepted and everyone had places of worship would be the most ideal, but this may not be possible. In that case, I would want a two state solution, between Palestine and Israel, and one unlike today's where Palestinians are treated as second class citizens
@comb528491
@comb528491 2 жыл бұрын
It should be important to note that the main reason why Palestinians have historically opposed the so-called "two-state solution" it's because that the bare minimum requirement for Palestinians is the right to return to whichever homes they were driven out from, wherever they may be. The 2SS would simply draw a line in the map and say that Palestinians are allowed to return to their homes in one side of those lines, but another half of the Palestinian population will not be able to return to their homes and that other part of the land. And we must remember, every Palestinian is an individual human, and each individual has their own idea of home.
@ezra7088
@ezra7088 2 жыл бұрын
@@comb528491 yes, there's also the double standard where Jews are allowed to return to homes they or their recent ancestors were kicked out of and Palestinians are not given that same right
@mr.cannedble9724
@mr.cannedble9724 2 жыл бұрын
@Andrew doesn't Palestinians accepted jews when they got kick by European in early age migration..there's a evidence that jews using Palestine passport in that time
@koyba3747
@koyba3747 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with the Palestinians and Israelis is the leadership otherwise they could probably live together in peace
@bigfo2629
@bigfo2629 2 жыл бұрын
are you a fake white Jew from Europe or Semitic.
@HikmaHistory
@HikmaHistory 2 жыл бұрын
Balian of Ibelin: What is Jerusalem worth? Saladin: Nothing... Everything!
@mahafujrayhan2877
@mahafujrayhan2877 2 жыл бұрын
Long live muslim 🇵🇸
@ohadhoffman7078
@ohadhoffman7078 2 жыл бұрын
Israel above all 🇮🇱
@latofalshammari2872
@latofalshammari2872 2 жыл бұрын
It’s “nothing and everything”… referring to how it’s nothing to the Christians because they were prepared to burn it down rather than give it to the muslims. And how it’s everything for the muslims because they would rather die than see it burn.
@hornerfarah2282
@hornerfarah2282 2 жыл бұрын
@@ohadhoffman7078 keep barking
@mugikuyu9403
@mugikuyu9403 2 жыл бұрын
Jerusalem belongs to the Jews! I’m not even Jewish but it’s their city originally so why should Arabian Muslims get it when it was founded by Jews and Abraham of monotheism is originally a Jewish concept? Arabs are so envious of Jews it’s actually embarrassing.
@baddbeliever
@baddbeliever 2 ай бұрын
great job matt as always. THIS is why this city is so special.
@anthonyrobinson6590
@anthonyrobinson6590 5 ай бұрын
This is so well done!
@educationagility2729
@educationagility2729 Жыл бұрын
Amazing lesson, you are doing an incredible job educating people.
@atlashistorical
@atlashistorical Жыл бұрын
step 1 - grab popcorn step 2 - sort by newest step 3 - enjoy the show
@roubika1922
@roubika1922 Ай бұрын
Fascinating history Invaders and occupiers should not be counted as rightful owners of the land irrespective of how long they may have lived on the land.
@McNastyxx95
@McNastyxx95 3 ай бұрын
Matt Bakers reign over the holy city is undefeated in the act of Charts . 👊🏼🤘🏼✌🏼💪🏼
@Nooticus
@Nooticus 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely excellent video as always! I'm very much looking forward to visiting this great city again in August, B"H, a city that feels very special and magical but yet in some way also terrifying at the same time!
@Howie672
@Howie672 Жыл бұрын
I think you did great, let’s give Jerusalem to the Buddhist for a while ;)
@MayGodLoveYou
@MayGodLoveYou 8 ай бұрын
WTF😂?
@johnking6252
@johnking6252 8 ай бұрын
I agree then maybe the Hindu religion, or some Sikh dudes , hell even scientologists ? Then some aboriginal group. 👍🙏
@usernamenotfound200
@usernamenotfound200 8 ай бұрын
Indian religions are not interested in your sacred and cursed place called Jerusalem😂
@DeshCanter
@DeshCanter 8 ай бұрын
So then the Chinese get it?
@JackDawn939
@JackDawn939 8 ай бұрын
Good idea! 🎉 But, what branch of Buddhism? Theravada, Mahayana or Vajrayana? 😁
@deep6301
@deep6301 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Matt
@RG_1987
@RG_1987 Ай бұрын
The question isn't who should control it. The question should be which religion lets the rest of the religions visit it without any problem. Hint, there is a single religion that calls to kill all who don't believe it, so I doubt they fit the criteria.
@Illuminatus_8
@Illuminatus_8 7 ай бұрын
This is the right time to share this video with the public
@tace_nomercy9274
@tace_nomercy9274 4 ай бұрын
so that we know its the israelis land?
@Vichikuma
@Vichikuma 4 ай бұрын
For some reason he didn't make the Fatimids part of the Arab Empire, though they were arabs. Adding them to the Arab Empire gives it 463 years to Arab political control, making it the 2nd longest political control, under the romans and above the israelites.
@tace_nomercy9274
@tace_nomercy9274 4 ай бұрын
​well, regardless the modern day israelis and palestinians are basically the same people lol. @@Vichikuma
@Vichikuma
@Vichikuma 4 ай бұрын
@@tace_nomercy9274 Israelites are european, so no.
@2BluntsLaterJr
@2BluntsLaterJr 4 ай бұрын
@@Vichikumano they are not. There are European Jews there as well but some Jews were already there. Palestinian Arabs are from Egypt and Jordan. They literally share the exact same DNA
@luochoa
@luochoa 2 жыл бұрын
AMAZING! This is exactly the video i had been wishing someone did for years! The fact that in the end it was you that did it, with your in-depth research, your unbiased ways of explaining the facts and your truly remarkable way of showing data, is just perfect! Thank you.
@KR-zf2us
@KR-zf2us 2 ай бұрын
Amazing! Hope to see something like this on a map for the whole world!
@kingnova6408
@kingnova6408 4 ай бұрын
Maybe the real Jerusalem was the friends we made along the way
@godlessqueertheywarnedyouabout
@godlessqueertheywarnedyouabout 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Matt create a timeline of the development of the God of the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament, showing when transitions among polytheism, henotheism, monolatry, and monotheism happened, and indicating archaeological evidence for belief in the God of the Jewish people.
@jeffmacdonald9863
@jeffmacdonald9863 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely an interesting topic. You get hints of it in the Who Wrote the Bible videos, but there's a lot more to say. And still a lot of questions.
@wannabe_scholar82
@wannabe_scholar82 2 жыл бұрын
I think there was more of a shift from monalatry to monotheism and we never really see polytheism or henotheism in the old testament
@smorcrux426
@smorcrux426 2 жыл бұрын
That is a subject we know notoriously little about, and apart for the (obviously *extremely* biased) Bible we have literally no other sources until after monotheism was already entrenched. I doubt we'll ever be able to know as much as we'd like to about ancient Jewish religion and practices, since archeology can only tell us so much.
@wannabe_scholar82
@wannabe_scholar82 2 жыл бұрын
@@smorcrux426 true but still we have remnants in the text bc although later Jewish authors and Bible editors tried to make it seem like strict monotheism it would be impossible to cover up. but we see that they at least believed other gods existed contrary to the strictly monotheistic approach we later see in the Bible
@jeffmacdonald9863
@jeffmacdonald9863 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there are definitely some traces in the earlier layers of the Hebrew Bible and some more information from archeology. I think we can make at least some good assumptions.
@lovingthewings69
@lovingthewings69 2 жыл бұрын
Dude says "who do you think should control Jerusalem in the future? Comment below!". Can't wait to see how that turns out.
@msicvbes4977
@msicvbes4977 2 жыл бұрын
Why would he ask something so controversial? Considering that Jerusalem today already belongs in a country and an attempt to change that would definitely lead to war.
@VampireHub616
@VampireHub616 2 жыл бұрын
@@msicvbes4977 why not just seek the kingdom not of this world.
@fboi236
@fboi236 2 жыл бұрын
@@msicvbes4977 Well the Israeli too did just that, through war too.
@pelinalwhitestrake3367
@pelinalwhitestrake3367 2 жыл бұрын
Jerusalem will belong to Israel as long as Israel has USA as it's ally. You know, having a world superpower as an ally is a big deal.
@cv4809
@cv4809 2 жыл бұрын
@@pelinalwhitestrake3367 except Iran, no other neighboring country can seriously threaten Israel, whether it's allied to US or not
@LuccaMatt
@LuccaMatt 23 күн бұрын
Kind of pathetic that towards the end the author splits Israel with others because "there's a dispute", when the whole time, whoever controlled the city was counted -- whoever wins battles an conquers, is the one that controls -- there's no such thing as "disputed" -- Israel won and conquered... if they lose (again); they'll be out (again). Easy.
@dkoz8321
@dkoz8321 4 ай бұрын
By this logic. England and Ireland, but not Scotland. Belongs to Denmark and French Normans.
@Tytoalba777
@Tytoalba777 2 жыл бұрын
I think an interesting video to do would be "Who would be Caliph today?" following some of the main lines of successions: Ali's Dynasty through Hasan, Ali's Dynasty through Husayn and Musa al-kadhim, the Umayyads, the Abbasids, the Fatimids, and the Ottomans. Some of these would be pretty easy, but I think others would be extremely difficult, or at least interesting. Where'd the Abbasids go, and the Umayyads and Fatimids?
@Sssssss553
@Sssssss553 2 жыл бұрын
Will bro the caliph system in it's first days didn't have to do anything near blood line it was election conceal give a certain name and if people like ok if people didn't they go for another name will until the Umayyad came and they miss it up and make it blood related thing
@muhammadHassan-kj1jy
@muhammadHassan-kj1jy Жыл бұрын
This has a lot of potential
@porsche911sbs
@porsche911sbs Жыл бұрын
Harun Osman is the current head of the Ottoman dynasty. The other caliphates are more complicated because they weren't necessarily hereditary but were instead controlled by clans.
@karimmezghiche9921
@karimmezghiche9921 Жыл бұрын
The Caliphate isn't hereditary, whoever the Muslim agree upon should be Caliph
@fanboiInc.
@fanboiInc. Жыл бұрын
The caliphate isn't a royal family or "kingdom" Ummah (practicing Muslims) will decide who will be the caliph.
@Salsaman34
@Salsaman34 8 ай бұрын
This is great video enlightening the history of Jerusalem in an objective way! Many thanks.
@earlysda
@earlysda 8 ай бұрын
You didn't catch the narrator contradicting himself between about 4:20 - 4:35?
@TitaniusAnglesmith
@TitaniusAnglesmith 8 ай бұрын
@@earlysda How so? He said the story is literally false but may have been inspired by real events. Are you fluent in english?
@mytoll6529
@mytoll6529 8 ай бұрын
@@earlysda BASED. on events
@earlysda
@earlysda 8 ай бұрын
@@TitaniusAnglesmithAnglesmith, "There not too much we can know about this city between the years 2000 and 1000BCE...The only thing that be safely assumed about this period is that the city was likely under the control of the Egyptian new kingdom...because we know that the Egyptians controlled most of the Levant during those years." . Thus, he contradicts himself. . Then he gleefully talks about how that basically negates what the Holy Bible says. . He needs to repent of his denigration of the holy words of God, and refrain from contradicting himself in the future. .
@TitaniusAnglesmith
@TitaniusAnglesmith 8 ай бұрын
@@earlysda None of that is a contradiction. The bible is wrong. Might want to look up the dictionary definition of the word, but seeing as you presumably think the bible is accurate, a book with truth in it must be witchery.
@coquimarinero7246
@coquimarinero7246 3 ай бұрын
I'd probably count the early Judahite religion separately from Judaism, or possibly as pagan tbh, which I guess would make it more prominent than Christianity
@ziamia8849
@ziamia8849 14 күн бұрын
For top states, the Turks controlled Jerusalem longest after the Romans. Do a presentation including timeline of nations that lived in Palestine including the movement of the Children of Prophet Jacob (Peace be Upon Him) out of Palestine into Egypt, the Wilderness and other locations.
@TheBreadPirate
@TheBreadPirate 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad you didn't treat it as a competition to control the city longest. Your conclusion made a lot of sense!
@davidwebber8454
@davidwebber8454 8 ай бұрын
The analysis was fantastic and completely unbiased. On the question on who should be in control, my question is what point in history do we go back to? Should the Romans or Italians be put back in control? Treaties that try to go back in history and remake a country have failed miserably throughout history with the biggest failure of all time being the Treaty of Versailles that tried this exact same thing and has caused ten of millions of deaths. Why does the world care that the Jewish people are given a tiny strip of land of really no importance. The Palestinians have no claim to the land and why doesn’t Saudi Arabia, Jordan or Syria give them some land.
@Bubba___
@Bubba___ 8 ай бұрын
“Treaties that try to go back in history and remake a country have failed miserably throughout history…” I agree with this, but you then contradict yourself by saying the Palestinians have no claim to the land. How does that make sense? Who *does* have a claim to the land? The vast majority of Israelis are descended from Europeans who colonized Israel after WW2. The Palestinians are not. Who do you think has a “claim” on the land if you think that: 1. “Treaties that create historical nations fail miserably”… and: 2. “The Palestinians have no claim on the land” It seems you don’t think either should live in the Levant?? “Why does the world care that the Jewish people are given a tiny strip of land of really no importance.” Well, apparently you should considering you stated that treaties that attempt to re-create historical states “have failed miserably.” “why doesn’t Saudi Arabia, Jordan or Syria give them some land.” What? Why? Why would a foreign country give people of another country land?? How does that make any sense? It isn’t the fault of those nations that the West Bank (the majority of de jure Palestinian territory) has been illegaly occupied by Israel since 1967. “On the question on who should be in control, my question is what point in history do we go back to?“ Well, we don’t have to answer that as it was decided in 1948. If our predecessors had gone about the creation of the modern state of Israel in a competent way then the situation in the region might not be so turbulent. Although, extreme zionism and Israeli colonization of Palestine as well as Islamic terrorism also deserve much of the blame. Calling the land of Israel and Palestine “a tiny strip of land of really no importance“ severely downplays the religious and cultural importance the area has had for followers of Abrahamic religions for millennia. Judaism + Islam = good, can co-exist peacefully Zionism, colonization + Islamic terrorism = bad, will cause unending warfare
@snuffeldjuret
@snuffeldjuret 8 ай бұрын
@@Bubba___ I dunno, isn't the area trending towards peaceful? That is what it looks like to me. Maybe not in the 1000 year perspective, but looking at the last 75 it seems to cool down.
@rihamashraf4493
@rihamashraf4493 8 ай бұрын
​@@davidwebber8454the Canaanites, Philistines and the first Arab tribes who lived there centuries before prophet 1braham even born and moved to it whom modern Palestinians are the decedents so ur claims are false only ppl who have the right to claim this land are the modern Palestinians livin there for centuries who are mvslims, J3ws and Chr1stians who are the decedents of th0s3 Canaanites and 2 tribes of ppl m0vin there I mentioned not the European j3ws who's ancestors are European k1cked from their countries and f0rcibly st3alin their land and that's the only truth here
@Philalethes101
@Philalethes101 8 ай бұрын
​@@rihamashraf4493which first Arab tribe are you talking about? From which history book?
@wildliferox2
@wildliferox2 7 ай бұрын
That was actually a very good summary of the history of Jerusalem for an outsider like myself. Lots of information in a short and concise narrative. Thanks very much. I will have to look at what you have to say for other cities/nations in the region including Egypt which has a similar story to tell.
@EntryLevelLuxury
@EntryLevelLuxury 7 ай бұрын
Most every region has a history of conquest and migration for various reasons.
@lyndaanneshop
@lyndaanneshop 7 ай бұрын
No it wasn't! It was pure propaganda trying to justify a "two state" "SOLUTION" what a disgusting word choice. What we see is some maybe archeological vague evidence of a people group named Judahites maybe controlled the land for 400 years some 2500 years ago and therefore have equal claim to it as the people who have been there steadily for some 1300 years? Unless you are ready to move out of your home and return it to the people who lived there 2500 years ago you'd better wake up and think this bullshit through. This is pure mind fuckery.
@loislewis5229
@loislewis5229 7 ай бұрын
I saw this video a year ago and found it so informative that I’m watching again.
@DelbertCook-zp4uv
@DelbertCook-zp4uv 7 ай бұрын
Fact Check * KJV Bible * Clean the DIRT off of Your KJV Bible and Start Studying What it Teaches!
@Alexandra_Hill
@Alexandra_Hill 7 ай бұрын
@@DelbertCook-zp4uv sooooo funny...
@awaski977
@awaski977 Ай бұрын
Hi there! Not really here for the video, but, I just want to make a point. Whatever the answer they give in the video, it is in fact wrong. The correct answer is obviously "The Dinosaurs". Whatever they say, you can't beat a couple 100 million years after all. Have wonderful day all :)
@haniyasu8236
@haniyasu8236 4 ай бұрын
Ironic that a city that shares it's name with "peace" would be so fraught with conflict for it's entire existence
@mmbudny
@mmbudny Жыл бұрын
Claims over the city by adherents of a religion (there are three here) imply a need for exclusivity, when in fact this is a city that is important to all three religions, and one would hope that each would respect the others' historical and cultural ties to the city. It is clear that all would benefit from a peaceful sharing arrangement.
@BasedKungFu
@BasedKungFu Жыл бұрын
It would be a lot easier if all 3 faiths required that the other faiths be incorrect.
@Helga7850
@Helga7850 Жыл бұрын
The difference between us Christians and Muslims is that Muslims want to appropriate a city, stealing its history and roots from the city itself. The evidence is that no Muslim has ever called this city "Jerusalem", its real name, but they call it Al-Quds. We Christians call it Jerusalem because we don't claim its ownership. It's not ours. It's a place where our Gospels took place,...nothing else...but Christianity is in the hearts of Christians ...not in a city...that's why the apostles went throughout Greece, Italy to evangelize.
@jacobn2461
@jacobn2461 Жыл бұрын
Wow I bet they never thought of a sharing agreement🤯
@mmbudny
@mmbudny Жыл бұрын
@@jacobn2461 Of course that proposal has been raised. But it would take an act of political courage and complete trust to make it happen, something that seems to be lacking by all parties.
@aguyfromnothere
@aguyfromnothere Жыл бұрын
They are doing that right now….
@rbimastro9772
@rbimastro9772 Жыл бұрын
Jerusalem is a terrible place. I visited as a pilgrim but instead of feeling closer to god all I felt was hopelessness for Mankind. You can feel the animosity on every street. The blood spilt in an effort to control that city 🤯.
@ou6775
@ou6775 8 ай бұрын
By who primarily?
@immers2410
@immers2410 8 ай бұрын
As an ex Muslim, I found Santiago de Compostela to be spiritually uplifting
@Noah-qp6oe
@Noah-qp6oe 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been twice and it was great, don’t know when you went??
@sasast6075
@sasast6075 8 ай бұрын
So what you felt is the absence of God but that felling is also important
@christineperez7562
@christineperez7562 8 ай бұрын
What? It's a beautiful city. I call BS.
@akinsanmithepastographerda8622
@akinsanmithepastographerda8622 Ай бұрын
Mr. Jude, thank you for bringing light that liberates out of ignorance.
@CbI4
@CbI4 6 ай бұрын
you also need to make chart of who lived there
@makingmemesat3AM
@makingmemesat3AM 12 күн бұрын
thats literally what happened here
@Andrea-Marie
@Andrea-Marie Жыл бұрын
What a great analysis. What a wonderful overview and timeline. Thank you very much, indeed. Greetings from Austria.
@Matatabi6
@Matatabi6 2 жыл бұрын
I took a class in college specifically on the city of Jerusalem, we read Jerusalem besieged and the list of conflicts over Jerusalem takes up the first 3 whole pages
@tomkelly8827
@tomkelly8827 14 күн бұрын
I'd say that clearly it should be under Indian rule now. They know how to get many gods to get along for a few thousand years at this point
@AZ-bl5qs
@AZ-bl5qs 4 ай бұрын
Strange how Judaism was given years for trivial reasons
@daniladanila3230
@daniladanila3230 4 ай бұрын
The reason he gave years to judaism for example in the hellenistic period or yehud medinata is, because it was populated only by jews, but controlled by other groups, which is why there are two things here: top states, and top religions.
@ninjason57
@ninjason57 2 жыл бұрын
Before even watching this video im super excited to see this put together by you! Im reading through the Hebrew Bible and sometimes have a hard time keeping track of all the kings names, especially when they were renamed by other kings.
@waynemorgan6153
@waynemorgan6153 7 ай бұрын
If that historical timeline has proven anything it's that military power decides the legitimacy of claim to dominion not only of Jerusalem but any plot of land. The jewish state of Israel currently holds dominion over it because they have the military strength to assert that claim. The Palestinians disputing it doesn't mean anything because they don't have the military strength to invalidate Israels claim. Might may not make right but it certainly does decide who makes the rules in the real world.
@02suraditpengsaeng41
@02suraditpengsaeng41 7 ай бұрын
This 🔥🔥🔥 Honest Soldier
@amjadabdullah1878
@amjadabdullah1878 7 ай бұрын
What logic is that? so what about WW2? Germany had the power, why did the world fight them? and what about Russia and Ukraine? if Russia have the military power that give them the right to occupy Ukraine? When Christians occupied it, they killed both Muslims and Jews, and when Jews occupied it they killed and still killing Muslim and Christians, but when Muslim took it they did not kill anyone, and you can read about Umar the 2nd Khalifa and Salahuddin.
@EpicLemonMusic
@EpicLemonMusic 7 ай бұрын
@@amjadabdullah1878false, look at the chart right here, Islam was invented by zealots in the 600s ad, Judaism was invented by fertile crescent farmers on 3000 or so BC, so how did Islam spread so far and wide? Murder, Slaughter, Conversion by sword, exile of Jews and Christians, Exile of Seculars which were often slashed to bits during the 700-1500 ad periods. 800 years of mass slaughter and 1600-today was rife with Exile and Murder of Apostates. You are a joke and thankfully hold no power in the west.
@elaadt
@elaadt 7 ай бұрын
@amjadabdullah1878 get your facts straight. The muslims who took Jerusalem from the christian crusaders did so by killing them. In the past 150 years, muslims have killed numerous jews in the city, not to mention the country as a whole. It is only when jews defend themselves that the arabs cry that they're the victims. Only yesterday a boarder-policewoman was killed by a Palestinian attacker. These attacks have been happening every once in a while for god knows how many years. In the '90s there were palestinian suicide bombers blowing up busses. The list goes on and on. My wife's grandfather witnessed his grandmother being killed in an ally in the old city of Jerusalem when he was a young boy sometime in the 1920s. So don't just chant slogans. Look for the facts and seek the truth.
@keonveon9802
@keonveon9802 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@amjadabdullah1878That was not the claim the poster was arguing for. He did not state that military force makes someone right, but rather effective military strength determines who occupies what set of lands. Germany did not have the effective military strength to maintain and conquer The USSR and the other Allies. Russia does not have the necessary military strength to occupy all of Ukraine. The poster is not claiming might is right; they are simply stating an observation that might is involved in occupation.
@ashleyladner7620
@ashleyladner7620 4 ай бұрын
When you said, "Do you like books," I thought you sounded like Levar Burton!
@SimpleHumman
@SimpleHumman Жыл бұрын
This was really insightful, thank you for presenting, I get the timelines mixed up a lot, constantly going back to sites like this to see it in a new and refreshing way. Thank you. (I also buy a chart everyone once in a while as they are really awesome to have.)
@user-ng7sw5he5u
@user-ng7sw5he5u 8 ай бұрын
Extremely good lecture, clear & comprehensive, made complex history easy to understand
@earlysda
@earlysda 8 ай бұрын
Except that he contradicted himself.
@koderamerikaner5147
@koderamerikaner5147 8 ай бұрын
It's not too accurate, I made a comment about some discrepencies.
@asafheller5720
@asafheller5720 8 ай бұрын
This info is misleading. The Jebusite tribe were the one living in the region of Jerusalem, their capital was called Jebuse, part of it was occupied the rest Kind David bought with money to build the City of David which later was the site for Solomon Temple since his son finished the construction of the Temple. Israelites always lived in this land they didn't just came from the Exudes in Egypt, the conquest over the land of Canaan specify the name of the tribes they defeated in that time. Arabic as a language evolved much much later with the influence of Yemenite tribe that immigrated to the Petra area which are called Nabataeans, later they returned to the Arabian peninsula influencing the local language forming the Arabic language, this is after the Roman arrival to the region by the way, meaning thousand years before Arabs even knew what Salam means. Phoenician which is the more early form of Hebrew was one of the oldest languages in the region even influencing Greek, evolving parallel to Sumerian which in between the nations had Aramaic from kingdom of Aram, this fake info makes it look like the Arab claims to the city make some sense, Arab's didn't exist outside the Arabian peninsula until the 7th century during the Islamic caliphate occupation, that's common knowledge.
@markhorton3994
@markhorton3994 8 ай бұрын
You are on the right track. Phoenician, Aramaic, Biblical Hebrew, Arabic, and a lot of other languages were derived from an ancient language called Proto Semitic. The Canaanites, who were never united and included all the peoples displaced by the Israelites, also spoke Semitic languages. Apparently, Hebrew and Arabic developed as spoken languages about the same time, each confined to its own region. However, Hebrew became a written language almost immediately, and Arabic didn't. Arabic only became a written language when oral tradition failed Islam and something was needed to write the Quran in. The Phoenicians were trading people with principal cities Tyre and Sidon, and later Carthage in North Africa. The Philistines were originally not local. They were originally one of the nine sea peoples, probably from Crete, who the Egyptians recorded defeating. They disappeared completely when, like the Israelites, Nebucadnezor hauled their survivors off to Babylon, only the Philistines didn't come back. Naturally, there was intermarriage and cultural mixture between all these peoples. The Israelites varied between tolerance, peace, and genocide towards the various Canaanite tribes. Were always at war with or fighting to end occupation by the Philistines. They were usually at peace with and sometimes allies of the Phoenicians. The status with the Aramaans ( Syria) seems to have changed with every change of ruler by either one. The Judeans were taken to Babylon speaking Hebrew and returned speaking an Aramaic dialect but retaining Hebrew for religious purposes. The Samaritans were foreigners speaking many languages and worshiping many idols brought in by the Assirians to replace the ten lost tribes. They adopted their own dialect of Aramaic and a twisted form of Judaism. Then came the "Greeks" and at the time of Christ, the area was bilingual. Coine Greek and Aramaic, with many also knowing Latin or Hebrew. Arabic only showed up with Muslim conquest, as you said.
@koderamerikaner5147
@koderamerikaner5147 8 ай бұрын
@@asafheller5720 iirc jebusites weren't even judaic. I hate how he considers the pre-council/pre-torah judaism as judaism, it's like saying Islam and Christianity are Judaism because they have the same basis. He also blatantly ignores how egypt was the one country to not fall in the bronze age collapse and had records that they won and held onto that region. There's tons of minor inconsistencies too.
@mgsberlin5067
@mgsberlin5067 6 ай бұрын
Great job. I like this play with numbers. But let me ask a single question: If a thief robs your juwel and hold it more years then you, isn't it your juwel anymore?
@bonniewatson7720
@bonniewatson7720 5 ай бұрын
Was it ever yours alone?
@mgsberlin5067
@mgsberlin5067 5 ай бұрын
No, it wasn't mine, but it belonged to the founders, it was conquered by strangers @@bonniewatson7720
@xZelt
@xZelt Ай бұрын
and they had sucha headstart aswell, absolutely mogged
@thomasdixon4373
@thomasdixon4373 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, it's amazing to truly see how important the city was
@giladwasheretravel3553
@giladwasheretravel3553 2 жыл бұрын
*still is
@thomasdixon4373
@thomasdixon4373 2 жыл бұрын
@@giladwasheretravel3553 yes that is true, didn't mean to use past tense
@user-iv4eq2nt5i
@user-iv4eq2nt5i 8 ай бұрын
If all KZbin video creators spent this much effort on their videos, we'd all be geniuses.
@harrydestaffano565
@harrydestaffano565 5 ай бұрын
My insomnia was cured by this video.
@michaelhiggins8843
@michaelhiggins8843 4 ай бұрын
Jerusalem is like r/place IRL
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 8 ай бұрын
It's wild how relevant this video has become and honestly important with all the misinformation being spread on Social Media. You do important work in this case you could say "Gods Work". Thank you.
@skarhabekgreyrukh8601
@skarhabekgreyrukh8601 8 ай бұрын
can you tell me what kind of "all the misinformation being spread on Social Media. " ?
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 8 ай бұрын
@@skarhabekgreyrukh8601 I won't waste my time because your question alone tells me you gobble that shit up with a spoon.
@mytoll6529
@mytoll6529 8 ай бұрын
@@skarhabekgreyrukh8601 if we did we would be doing nothing with the rest of ours lives
@bwolos
@bwolos 7 ай бұрын
​@ADSHYN the misinformation that Jerusalem belongs and should belong to palestinian colonizers, which is false. Even more so if we are talking about gazans, who were never in Jerusalem, and were not for thousands of years.
@tuxtitan780
@tuxtitan780 7 ай бұрын
​@bwolos when are yall gonna realize that both Jews and Palestinians have valid claims to the area? Just fucking stop killing each other, live next to each other as neighbors, peacefully. I know that's idealistic and unrealistic of me to want, but for the life of me I cannot figure out why it's such a radical and unlikely idea/ outcome
@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial
@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial 2 жыл бұрын
Jerusalem rightfully belongs to the Filipinos.
@viktorcoudere3615
@viktorcoudere3615 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, a man of culture.
@vrixphillips
@vrixphillips 2 жыл бұрын
lol agreed
@yahushandawid
@yahushandawid 2 ай бұрын
nope to the original hebrews (the negros)
@davashorb6116
@davashorb6116 Ай бұрын
It's nuts to place a religious designation on a city.
@DarrenMarsh-kx8hd
@DarrenMarsh-kx8hd 13 күн бұрын
Why didnt you show the whole graph at the end?
@rickadrian2675
@rickadrian2675 8 ай бұрын
Great video. My late Father said decades ago that it's good that Jerusalem has a wall, because it should be filled with concrete to stop people fighting over it. Given recent events, I think they will fight over the concrete...
@donnafesmire1513
@donnafesmire1513 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your KZbin content. Thank you for making it you do a great job!
@zigadabooga
@zigadabooga 3 ай бұрын
Don't forget the 3.7B years it was Atheist before 5000 BCE
@MA-ct9ms
@MA-ct9ms 3 ай бұрын
Excellent!
@luisc.3215
@luisc.3215 8 ай бұрын
Excellent! Seeing it now, when all seems to be blowing (Oct 23). It helped tremendously to keep the record straight. I had a general idea, but missing important info, and of course no idea of the precie account. Thank you very much!
@tarkitarker0815
@tarkitarker0815 7 ай бұрын
its vastly inaccurate. the first settlement around the euphrat was more than 10000 bce, why should jerusalem be settled so late?
@Zain-gf4mf
@Zain-gf4mf 8 ай бұрын
I think this is one of the most objective point of view that can be referenced about Jerusalem conflict of control
@earlysda
@earlysda 8 ай бұрын
Did you miss the part where he contradicted himself around 4:30?
@Zain-gf4mf
@Zain-gf4mf 8 ай бұрын
@@earlysda I didn't, but at least this video is more objective than others. Most information about Israel-Palestinian tend to be extremely biased
@Qsen123
@Qsen123 8 ай бұрын
​@@Zain-gf4mfits essentially impossible to find information that isnt skewed by propaganda or bias since the war started so i agree
@averdadeeumaso4003
@averdadeeumaso4003 8 ай бұрын
@earlysda He's wrong, there's a good explanation with archeological basis that they crossed the sea to what is modern day Saudi Arabia, which was settled by Midianites and not part of the Egyptian Kingdom, so his info is false
@earlysda
@earlysda 7 ай бұрын
@@averdadeeumaso4003aver, you speak truth.
@qwel5981
@qwel5981 3 ай бұрын
I’d love to see an update on this
@Rydonattelo
@Rydonattelo Ай бұрын
During the short British mandate there should have been a few years added on for Christian control
@imperialfish454
@imperialfish454 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool chart, and interesting to see the history of the city! I was surprised by the final count. Have you considered doing any videos on the Cossacks? I know the eastern regions of Ukraine have changed hands a bit (and of course, a lot of stuff about that recently).
@XyzgorYT
@XyzgorYT 2 жыл бұрын
Seconded, very interesting topic.
@carbocationful
@carbocationful 2 жыл бұрын
Delhi
@gryphon1six801
@gryphon1six801 8 ай бұрын
Great video and totally agree with your summary and conclusion!
@ebrahimhabib477
@ebrahimhabib477 Ай бұрын
It’s absolutely beautiful and accurate information well presented I agree with your opinion with 2 state Solution it’s should be fair and just
@ottos3318
@ottos3318 Ай бұрын
I think two major factors to consider would be that firstly under Roman control the Jews still had Authority over the region with the Romans on the interfering for Taxation and major legal disputes. The second being that early Christianity was just seen as an extension of Judaism find most of the population. What does breakdown has mainly explained is that the area has been the homeland of the Jews and only ever conquered or occupied, with there always being a Jewish presence in the land.
@michaelcooreman3509
@michaelcooreman3509 Ай бұрын
Early christianity was called arianisme if i not misstake but there are also other form i forgot name but its more similar with Islam and modern christianity is created by the romans... Also arianism created by a berber and these people are muslims living in north-africa but many of them are made arab by langauge and others...
@mekelius
@mekelius 2 жыл бұрын
Here's an idea: You could do academic genealogies! That would be super interesting. And could be a nice look into some history of science.
@samOO-wx6mc
@samOO-wx6mc 8 ай бұрын
Incredibly well written & researched video
@rravisankar3355
@rravisankar3355 6 ай бұрын
Who controlled or besieged longer period doesn't matter. Whom it belonged is whom it belongs always.
@mustafaayash733
@mustafaayash733 6 ай бұрын
You are missing a very important piece of information here! The city of Jerusalem was established by the Cannanes 4500BC and named after their king ايروشاليم 3500 years of the history of ancient canon the real indigenous people of the land if we don’t start from the beginning we would have incomplete picture of what happened in this land.
@shaikatz3816
@shaikatz3816 6 ай бұрын
The problem with your idea is that the canaanite people no longer exist. Of the ancient groups mentioned in this video, the only one who still exist in modern history are the Jews, which gives them the longest ties to the land of any people who currently exist.
@nugrohomuhtarif2887
@nugrohomuhtarif2887 Ай бұрын
​@@shaikatz3816Palestinians are descendants of Cannanes. They're not 100% Arab
@ionidhunedoara1491
@ionidhunedoara1491 Ай бұрын
If you are to call Palestinians Canaanite indigenous then you invalidate the ahl al bayt lineage of many who claim Said, companions of the prophet, bedouin lineage and descent from Khalid ibn al Walid- a Hejazi. Not to mention those Husseini who are Asiri. One cannot have it both ways.
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