Timeline of Gaza | 3500 BCE to October 7th, 2023

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Origins of the Twelve Tribes of Israel:
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History of Islamic Gaza:
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Charts & Narration by Matt Baker
Animation by Syawish Rehman
Audio editing by Ali Shahwaiz
Intro music: "Lord of the Land" by Kevin MacLeod and licensed under Creative Commons Attribution license 4.0. Available from incompetech.com

[@UsefulCharts]

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[@bengee4841]

Hello UsefulCharts, im new to your channel and i really enjoy your videos. Im really looking for a video where it shows the changes of our calenders. For i know the Jewish calender is different to the Julian calender as well as the Gregorian calender. Do you have a video on how the world ended up adapting to the gregorian calender? Or what calenders they were using in the past?

[@starcapture3040]

your implementation of terms is wrong. Bronze Age Canaanite are the same iron age Canaanites./ Israel is a term called exclusively for people of a certain religion. which mean the one who struggle with god. Israel is a religious name not a geographic name. jews came from Mesopotamia not from the native Canaan land, Hebrew . were nomadic groups living in the desert of Mesopotamia. their name mean the crossers of rivers, because they used to marauding on trade routs and villages similar to the guti or vandals. Amrits,Mobait,Adomits,Ammonites,Phoenicians are all Canaanites. why you didn't mentioned them? and with your logic are the philistines iron age Canaanites? Israelites literature is extremely influenced by Mesopotamian religion and Egypt more then the Canaanite religion which they despised. there is no such thing as iron age Canaanites called Israelites. this is misleading.

[@NicitoStaAna]

Israeli operation in Gaza is not wrong/illegal. No one called the Allied forces genocidal when they bombed/starved Berlin. Unless it only applies when the victims are non-whites. Is that it? Read a book, More specifically, the rules of war as agreed and legally defined in UN Hospitals/Cultural/Historical places/Schools/places of worship. All lose their legal protection if they put weapons/ammunitions/hostages inside those places. Blame the Nakba on the Arab League who chose war instead of a citizen/land swap. Blame the Destruction of Gaza on those who put missiles/hostages under their children's bed just to score sympathy points.

[@starcapture3040]

@@NicitoStaAna WTF! Israel has no right to defend itself from the people it occupies

[@AduckButSpain]

I am sorry, but that is full of inaccuracies. Like the fact the British didn't sell any land to Jews, but were Arab land owners. Or the fact that the withdrawal from Gaza is not related to the 2nd Intifada, which was almost exclusively in the WB and was decided by the Israelis in 2002. Way before any violence in Gaza.

[@romanlegion5837]

What a normal and non combative comment section

[@alexandarthedivine]

Because this guy deletes comments. He deleted mine several times.

[@UsefulCharts]

I haven't deleted any comments. However, KZbin automatically deletes some before I even get the chance to see them.

[@fangbozhu7379]

@@alexandarthedivine that's probably yt's doing

[@ntmot]

​@@alexandarthedivineconsidering your public subscriptions, yeah thank god for that

[@alexandarthedivine]

@@UsefulCharts Well okay sorry for assuming then, but let me just say if here. You say that what Hamas did on October 7th is wrong and what Israel is doing right now is also wrong. However you miss the point that Israel is doing unprecedented things to minimise civilian casualties here. Israel dropps leaflets, texts and calls people, uses drones with loudspeakers used by people who speak fluent Arabic to get people out of harms way, while Hamas is doing everything TO KEEP civilians in harms way. Israel allows humanitarian aid to come in and uses high precision rockets to target specific targets. Another fact is that Israel successfully evacuated more than 1 million people from Rafah and established field hospitals and places where these people can temporarily live. To say that Hamas and Israel are equally bad here is not only wrong, it's outrageous. You say you support the protests, but what these mobs are shouting is nothing but death to Israel, death to America. Israels fight is against the Hamas, not the Palestinians. In 2005 Israel withdrew from Gaza in persuit of peace. What did happen then? They elected a government that persues the complete Annihalation of Israel. Israel has a long history of compromising, and as someone with Jewish ancestory as well and has relatives in Israel, I understand this struggle. There clearly can't be peace with terrorists operating in the Gazastrip or the westbank. What they say about themselves is very clear. Hisbollah, Huthies, Hamas, Public Front, Lions Den, Fatah, PLO, PIJ, and all these terror brigades are all terror proxies of Iran that aim to annihalate the state of Israel. And it makes me sad and angry when I see that when Israel is fighting this just war, people really think they can held Israel accountable to not living up to the perfect standard of NO civilian casualties at all. A standard no country in history ever lived up to, and yet it is expected from Israel, while it's also the only country NOT allowed to win a war. Israel doesn't deliberately kill people, this is the crystal clear difference between them and Hamas. But civilian casualties are a sad cost of war - a war, that Israel never first started. Out of the around 30 k people around 14k were combatants. The numbers changed a bit, but not changing the fact that the ratio of killed people is almost 1:1, which is even more impressive in a war like this where Hamas hides beneath civilian infrastructure and tunnels that are embedded in it. The numbers of the Hamas controlled ministry of health keeps lineary growing, which is very questionable and weird because it never occurs in war. As stand 100% with Israel because history has shown that leaving terrorists be that use all fundings from the world to buy weapons to aim at annihalating a neighbour state is a mistake. Doing nothing and standing still while you are getting targeted by suicide attackers, is a mistake. This has to stop, and it has to stop now.

[@W4HB]

As an Arab, i found this video very enjoyable and i salute you for not picking sides and just stating facts as they are. Thank you and keep making great content ❤

[@_oaktree_]

As a Jew, same!

[@davidfrager8234]

​@@_oaktree_shalom! I'm with you guys. There is historical information neither of the sides shouldn't deny!

[@samos343guiltyspark]

​@@sunnysuzannait doesn't really matter what you call it, killing people is just that, and many or even most of the deaths are innocents. Genocide or not, that's a horror.

[@moshco23]

@@samos343guiltyspark How convenient that the "Gazan health ministry" which is the Hamas government, doesn't say how many of their own died. Its almost always women and children even though there is so much footage of "kids" actively used in the conflict. If you civilians out of harms way, don't fight from within them dressed as civilians.

[@Bajoou]

@@W4HB You're a liar.

[@amerhamad1298]

As a Palestinian living there i would like to thank you for the video its really helpful even for me whos living those actions

[@almag4571]

Matt, thank you so much for this video. As a person living in the middle east and inside this conflict, I've been staying away from online content pertaining to it. I'm just sick and tired of people throwing out their hateful and ignorant opinions so carelessly, while living out their comfortable lives millions of mile away and not really understanding what it might be like to be born into this reality. The only thing worse is the hateful and biased of some people who were born into it, and are poisoned by generations of mutual distrust and national animosity. When I saw your video I was very hesitant at first. But you've never let me down before, and you handled masterfully other controversial subjects in the past. I've been waiting for someone willing to just explain the dry facts of this millennia long story, address some of its complexities, and do it in a way that left me unsure of your personal political view (at least until the end, where you presented it with your disclaimer). I could talk about where I agree and disagree with you, but I find it more important to appreciate your honest attempt at looking at both sides and their narratives, and recognizing the pain each one goes through. And to finish with my own prayer - may the extremists on both sides that led us to this mess get to feel all the pain they bring down on us.

[@EH23831]

Praying that our and yours are safe.

[@RobespierreThePoof]

You are smart for avoiding online propaganda. There is such a huge political disinformation campaign and they have NO qualms with completely misrepresenting history and emotionally manipulating the public. The world needs far more people like you who simply refuse to engage with that stuff. We are all vulnerable to it, but some of us have a sense for when something is just not right. I always tell my students, "if you're having a strong emotional reaction to the media, its not necessarily because you're learning the truth. Only trust the views you form based on doubt and debating yourself - no matter how uncomfortable those doubts make you. Strong convictions are often a weakness, not a strength."

[@andrew_owens7680]

Here is my read on it from a recent update in my research. Jews were expelled from England in 1290 until 1656. Christian Protestants were more kindly disposed to them, and among Christian philosophies was a seed that grew slowly into Zionism with an idea that Jews were key to the end times and that getting European Jews back to Jerusalem would encourage an end time where most Jews would go to hell and the remainder would pray to Jesus. Orthodox Jews were originally against the idea. For example, at the turn of the 20th century, there were approximately 350,000 Jews living in Britain. The number of Zionists among them was around 8,000. Many Christians were involved in proselytizing Zionism. By the time Balfour wrote his famous declaration there was already a healthy Christian Zionism movement for over a century and Jewish Zionism was not a popular notion until after the First ZIonist Congress in Basel in 1880. In fact, though scheduled originally to be held in Munich, it was due to criticism of Orthodox and Reformed Jews that it wasn't held there. In short, Zionism doesn't go back thousands of years, any more than the nationalism it is based upon does.

[@RuthRandoms]

Great comment. We all think we should get a say in it across the world yet it's not our conflict. Who do we think we are telling people what to do, who are caught up in the middle of it? Prayers for your survival and peace.

[@wadeodonoghue1887]

Can't fight pain with pain, just saying.

[@januszbogumil]

what have the mongols Not invaded at this point?

[@jasperchance3382]

Italy

[@phillee2814]

🇬🇧

[@sdrawkcabUK]

Bermuda

[@4sythdude549]

The Moon ...not yet at least

[@januszbogumil]

@@4sythdude549 It's only a matter of time

[@notsological3734]

Matt, you forgot that 2005, all Israeli settlements in the Gaza Strip and four Israeli settlements in the West Bank were unilaterally dismantled. Israeli settlers and army evacuated from inside the Gaza Strip, redeploying its military along the border.

[@Firefly763]

He didnt mention a lot of important things.. So many misinformation, and information leaving out the most important details are spread on the internet. And then when it fits their narrative, people thank for the 'unbiased info.

[@JayHoffmann842]

@@Firefly763did you even finish the video? You’re more biased than him.

[@jeupater1429]

​@@JayHoffmann842 The problem with his videos is that he wants to provide a synthesized narrative, like a university 101. The problem with higher level analysis is that often there just are lines of evidence and little ultimate agreement on anything unified. This is where the bias comes in

[@DIY-Mechanic]

​@jeupater1429 exactly. Refering to Israel independence war as "a war broke" is a misleading claim. The arabs rejected peace and state, and want to eliminate the jews. A war didnt just started from nowhere.

[@Enteral_abyss]

The Israeli settlements in the West Bank were not dismantled💀 they’re only doubled in size and population

[@kreis497]

much appreciated, very good video. reminds me of the quote "if we don't learn from history we are doomed to repeat it"

[@valerieprice-wn9qb]

I guess it depends on if your history is the truth or just embarrassing nonsense

[@TheMarlinlask]

In this survey timeline, is there any indication of what not to repeat, huh?

[@mostlychimp5715]

"...and if we do learn from history we are doomed to stand helpless as everyone else repeats it."

[@AnonYmous-yu6hv]

Nothing about this is history, this is a Qatari propaganda video

[@andrew_owens7680]

The history we are repeating currently is the barbarism of 19th century colonialism.

[@n124ac9]

Perhaps the least controversial video there is.

[@af8828]

His use of the historical method should quell some of that "controversy". However the more contemporary claims in the video, and the solutions he advocates for are kind of problematic, as addressed below with timestamps: 30:14 "...the (Ashkenazi) Jewish newcomers were fleeing heavy persecution (in Europe) and *didn't really have anywhere else to go*" This is a statement which contradicts your earlier point on them (ie. secular/ atheist zionists) selecting multiple places to establish a nation-state. They had many places they could've gone to where the diaspora was living normal lives. They also had the option of settling other lands which were under colonial administration which may genuinely have been "empty", unlike the land they selected which was inhabited by *indigenous* Jew, Christians, Muslims and other religious groups with the same ethnic background (ie. the "mixed bag" you correctly referenced repeatedly). 30:55 *Worst ever genocide* is again, an objectively false statement. It's a popular talking point which is a form of genocide denial (ie. underplaying the many genocides outside of Europe which were quantifiably worse). Holocaust-esque genocides imposed by the colonial powers were the norm for the global majority - the reason it is (wrongly) portrayed as unique is because the Germans exerted that colonial violence *internally* onto Europe, which was deemed unacceptable by inter-colonial competition. 31:05 "Western countries were reluctant to take in Jews, thus the need for Jews to have their own state" First, the attempts to establish a Jewish state on this land preceded these events by decades via the explicitly *colonial* Zionist movement espoused by Herzl in collusion with the British who sought to use their classic colonial tactic of ethnic division to weaken a land. Second, Jews were living normal lives everywhere outside of ehite supremacist Europe. Third, the UN created a plan with borders which mirrored those of apartheid South Africa, with the indigenous inhabitants relegated to disconnected "bantustans" while the colonially imported population were given land on top of the homes of the indigenous. Out of the thousands of ethnicities most do not have a nation-state, as there are under 200 nations. We already established there have been worse genocides across the global majority, so that can't be the answer. Why should Ashkenazi Jews be the exception, especially given their colonial nation-state would be established on inhabited land? The answer is: they shouldn't. The nation state is an inherently backwards idea which inevitably results in fascistic nationalism in an effort to establish (fabricate) a unified "national" identity, as opposed to the "mixed bag" which has existed in the region forever. 31:20 "The two sides went to war" War is an inaccurate descriptor; it was one side resisting a plan created by an outright colonial/imperialist entity (the UN was a tool of imperialism at this point in history; still is to an extent). They were being expelled from homes they inhabited for dozens of generations so the victims of the holocaust (ie. European victims of European colonial violence turned inwards onto Europe) could settle on top of those homes. It was indiegnous resistance to colonialism. 31:38 "In reponse around the same number of Jews were expelled from the neighboring Arab countries". While the rise of nationalism did occur is *some* regions of the Arab world as the colonial powers lost their grip and created deliberately divisive nation-state borders (recall my point on the trajectory the nation-state inevitably leads to under a diverse society), the major cause of the outflow of Mizrahi and Sephardi Jews into the new colonial state of "Israel" was caused by *Zionist extremists* either committing violent acts to stoke further religious division or outright kidnapping their Jewish children to import into "Israel".

[@ChrisHuston.]

This reply should probably be moved to the main level as a Comment. Some important takes/perspectives to consider.

[@jakoboka]

​@@af8828ok so you think you are right?

[@asbu5716]

It is controversial.

[@l4nd3r]

@@af8828 You should make this a main comment (so more people and Matt can see it) with some citations of sources you based your arguments on, i agree with some of your points but i'm ignorant on others (like the pogroms on Jews post UN partition plan).

[@guyr1115]

Hmm.. interesting, enlightening, though omitting a few facts, such as 1) The Arabs in Israel refused the UN division plan in 1948, 2) The settlements were removed from the Gaza strip in 2005, and yet Hamas fired rockets from there for 18 years and counting.. 3) Fatah doesn't quite agree for a Jewish state.. I mean, sometimes yes, sometime no, sometimes paying terrorists and their families, sometimes maybe.. 4) the 2nd intifada started after the Arabs decided a 98% of the west bank + gaza region was not enough for a state and decided to go to war.. and a few other facts.. but it was a valiant attempt to be "impartial", thanks!

[@vincent412l7]

I'd be interested in a similar video for Armenia.

[@bneymanov]

Yes! I'm pretty sure a lot of people would be surprised to learn that in the last 420 years about 270 years the Azerbaijani population was the ethnic majority in what now is known as Armenia.

[@nenenindonu]

​@@bneymanovHistory of Armenia would be like mostly Urartians in the ancient ages, Romans in the first millennium CE with a bit of Arab Caliphates, and Turkic dynasties in the 2nd millennium CE with a tiny amount of Mongol rule

[@gurbanabbasov]

@@nenenindonuarmenians has nothing to do with urartians. Their redorded history started with 5th century AD writings which in itself is borrowed from ephiopians…

[@nenenindonu]

@@gurbanabbasov Yes Urartians indeed have nothing to with Armenians just how Romans & Turks don't, I just mentioned them as a former ruling entity of what is now Armenia

[@mohamedabdukadir3271]

Your charts are informative

[@commiekillahjay2525]

my Father is from Gaza, my mom is Irish American. I have visited Gaza several times but the last time was 1999. Gaza was beautiful with a vibrant population. It breaks my heart to see it get destroyed bit by bit and I hope they can rebuilt soon and people wil have real peace and prosperity like they did in the 90s. Inshallah ❤

[@elijahh-r9883]

for such a comprehensive overview, you really gloss over the reasons why the UN plan just "never happened" and the war began. it's quite a bit more complicated than that!

[@0106johnny]

Which is why it's glossed over, because you'd need another half hour to even begin to get into that topic

[@Quantumwolf45]

Palestine Arabs literally just rejected the offer for statehood. Instead choosing to declare war to finish Hitler's holocaust job.

[@simmyjester]

22:27 When you got to the Mongols, my mind went directly to the running bit from early Crash Course World History. ^_^

[@grtlyblesd]

Wait for it… the Mongols!

[@JessethebestJesse]

me too!

[@marshalltucker9690]

this running gag never will get old

[@HissoriRenda]

Love it 😊

[@Thenoobestgirl]

Same 😂

[@feynstein1004]

16:55 Minor mistake. The year wasn't 135 BCE but rather 135 CE, during the reign of Emperor Hadrian, that the third Jewish revolt was put down and the province renamed as Syria Palestinia.

[@patrickgronemeyer3375]

proof? share link.

[@feynstein1004]

@@patrickgronemeyer3375 The History of Rome podcast by Mike Duncan

[@Irin31]

@@patrickgronemeyer3375do you know the difference between BCE and CE?

[@Irin31]

@@patrickgronemeyer3375” The Bar Kokhba revolt, also known as the Third Jewish-Roman War, was a large-scale armed rebellion against the Roman Empire that took place from 132-135 CE. Led by Simon bar Kokhba, the Jewish rebels of Judea gained control of Jerusalem and parts of Judaea, establishing an independent state for more than two years. However, the Roman army eventually crushed the revolt, killing bar Kokhba at Betar in 135 and enslaving or killing the remaining rebels within the year. The war had devastating consequences for the Jewish people, with the majority of the province's population killed, enslaved, or exiled. The revolt began with high hopes for a homeland and a Holy Temple, as Roman emperor Hadrian had allowed the Jews to return to Jerusalem and rebuild the temple in 118 CE. However, Hadrian became convinced that the Jewish faith was the driving force behind the uprising and declared a war of annihilation against Judaism. He banned all Jewish commandments, including circumcision, Sabbath observance, and Torah study, and anyone who observed them was executed”

[@garyl5128]

@@patrickgronemeyer3375 It's historically well know, even Life of Brian covers it! Judea became a Roman Province in 6AD and the Romans later renamed it to Palestine as an insult to the Jews/Israelis that kept uprising against them. It was a punishment and insult as the name was taken from the Philistines that had lived along the coast at one point (they were later invaded and defeated by the Babylonians and absorbed into them). Even today, being called a Philistine is an insult.

[@bramstikkel5713]

I am impressed by the detailed historical information you provide in your videos. To make them more trustworthy, can you make a video about what the sources are of the historical info? Or provide information about the sources per video? Kind regards Bram

[@Ilenapieta]

Matt, your video is both informational and hopeful. Thank you for treating the subject with the respect it deserves. Never again for anyone, anywhere.

[@-Elie-]

25:45 can you provide a source for the statement you made that in 1800s~1900s Gazans started to call themselves as Palestinians.

[@185MDE]

So excited to watch this video!!!! Anytime I am asked "who started the fighting there" my only answer is "it depends when you start the story"

[@TracyD2]

It’s true.

[@185MDE]

@@TracyD2 unfortunately when having to answer the question “who is the aggressor” it’s really going to be whoever is answering that question is going to answer with who they are aligned with. Because there are arguments for both unfortunately.

[@YahiaMansouri]

@@185MDE Both siding a genocide?

[@philo9046]

@@185MDE would you have both sided a genocide if the Palestinians were westerners?

[@185MDE]

@@philo9046 please don’t twist my words

[@TheEzzyMaster]

31:23 it’s important to note that the Jews accepted the UN Partition Plan and the Palestinians did not.

[@MrEmafon4]

Maybe because they were given an unfair deal....

[@batshevabracha4357]

​@@MrEmafon4 They have been given the lands that they cleared from Malaria. Very fare

[@batshevabracha4357]

It is very important but not for promoting both narratives in order to gaun likes. It is trying to be unbiased but it actually is very biased because it twisted the facts like the one you mentioned, to make it ok for both sides.

[@daneal]

So what, is the way they live now any batter? Saying no to a bad deal but miss out the whole deal is just bad manegmant​@@MrEmafon4

[@robertfried5433]

@@MrEmafon4 Not true, they simply cannot live with a Jewish state by their side!

[@Iqballotelli]

As expected from good Samaritan Alan Baker. Clear, Non biased, scientific, and always promoting peace. Thank you. You're the best

[@BruceRitter]

Very biased reporting, ignoring actual facts in some cases, and whitewashing in others.

[@noamto]

Very biased and openly promoting war and violence. Why are you lying?

[@Alex-ck1bw]

"Non biased" -postulates the nativeness of palestinian people from looking at Gaza and Gaza city an area that for most of its existence was sparsely populated until the Nakba when Palestinians were expelled from occupied Palestine and sought refuge in Gaza -calls the holocaust "the worst" genocide which is subjective and can be argued demonstrably as false in terms of size, rate and execution.

[@Alex-ck1bw]

Also Zionists bought & "owned" less than 10% (5%-8%) of mandatory Palestine land before the Nakba. They took most of what is now "Israeli land by expulsion and murder

[@Alex-ck1bw]

Also z agents only owned 5-8% of what was mandatory Palestine before the Nakba. The stole the rest of the land via planned and systematic expulsion and un aliving named plan dalet

[@belialord]

2:35 Correction: not just the local population of the southern Levant, but the whole Levant was inhabited by Canaanites, to the point that the most important Canaanite archeological site nowadays is often considered to be the city of Ugarit, which is in modern day Syria. Later, northern Canaanites became known as Phoenicians by the Greeks and Romans, but preserved much of their culture and identity (including religion) until the end of antiquity.

[@habibi_sport312]

Not the entire Levant, just west of the Jordan and Orontes. To the east it was populated by Arameans, and other Arab(ish) groups (edomites, nabateans, moabites, ammonites, so on). To the north there were Assyrians and Hittites and Armenians. The Arameans that migrated north became known as Syriacs.

[@starcapture3040]

@@habibi_sport312 Arameans, amorits,(edomites,Moabits,Ammonits are canaanites too

[@belialord]

@@habibi_sport312 No, they weren't confined like that, they were all over the ancient world. The Canaanites spread across the Mediterranean and founded many colonies that became major cities (e.g., Carthage), even as far as Spain.

[@belialord]

@@habibi_sport312 But I do get the point that the areas you mentioned were _mainly_ populated by these other peoples.

[@mikkisixx3086]

Ba'al Hammon be praised!

[@hellohellohellohellohello-h5l]

7:37 - The Bronze Age collapse didn't lead to the fall of Egypt. In fact, Egypt was the only major power in the region to survive. It hurt Egypt to be sure, but it continued to exist thereafter.

[@saifhazem7164]

Both him and you are correct, he said the bronze age collapse lead to the downfall of Egypt which is true as Egypt did survive it but it was so weakened from the events that it continued declining while new emerging powers kept rising in power till Egypt itself was conquered by foreigners like the Libyan and Nubian dynasties (3rd intermediate period and late period in A. Egypt). So yes you are correct that Egypt did not fall in the bronze age collapse, but he is also correct that the collapse was one of the direct causes of Egypt's downfall. Alongside weak rulers who could at best slow the rapid decline of the Egyptian empire, such as all the Ramsisides from Ramses 5 and on.

[@jlt4219]

yes! it is still survive today!

[@neilturner5211]

Yeah, but I think the important part, as far as the video is concerned, is that Egypt was so weakened by the Bronze Age Collapse that it shrank back to its core territory on the Nile delta, leaving a power vacuum in Canaan that allowed the rise of Philistia, Israel and Judea. Without the collapse, those states would never have existed and the Levant would probably be part of Egypt to this day.

[@saifhazem7164]

@@neilturner5211 exactly.

[@striker121S]

⁠@@neilturner5211 that is incorrect, the sea peoples that attacked Egypt were resettled (by Egypt) into Canaan to become a vassal state. Those sea peoples were called Palaset which later they became known the the Philistens.

[@marwaqoura7804]

Great video ,I am Egyptian and history freak was even eligible to study it and Egyptology at the Uni.but I choose English language instead . This video was by far the most accurate and unbiased ,even better completely secular about the ' Cause of Causes ' as we call it in this part of this world which affects everybody on earth if not settled ...Shukran شكرا 💐❤🙏

[@shannon_kilpatrick]

Wait. I know this is important stuff about things going on but the only thing I really took away from this is that Egypt had colonies outside of it's traditional borders during the pre dynastic period. I didn't know this and it kinda blew my mind a little bit.

[@MrRizeAG]

The Dynasty numbers were decided before the period before Dynasty 1 was well understood. There is a Dynasty 0. That's who this refers to.

[@SarudeDanstorm]

Egypt didn't have "traditional borders" at that time - no country did. What defines colonizing versus settling? Traditional borders weren't really a thing until the Treaty of Westphalia iirc. Until then, it mattered more which cities owed allegiances and where

[@yonimaor1005]

So Gaza was occupied by modern Egypt between 1948-1967?

[@idarogozin5009]

And forgot to mention that some Jews were still living in Syria -palestina

[@humanbeing12848]

some jews... all the ppl who excelled wer jews.. u take Olympic team... any noble laureate... any leader... it was jews... not some... many lived...

[@noonyakaleka2098]

He mentioned it. Go back to when he was labeling "Mizrahi", "Sephardic", and "Ashkenazi" jews on the map - he may be using the terms wrong (or very simplistically) but that's when he mentioned it and then circled "Mizrahi".

[@Godiekgaming]

So you talk about the British as a colonial power, and curb to mention the Arabs as a colonial power in the region as well

[@vicegripp]

Literally colonizers for the Arab kingdom of the Arabian Desert, modern day Saudi Arabia.

[@TheNotehead]

Excellent job, although I question the accuracy of the comment that the PA is interested in living peacefully alongside Israel (where Hamas has explicitly asserted that their objective is to kill all Jews.) There were multiple instances when this was offered to the PA, and they refused. As far as I am aware, no PA leadership has ever explicitly stated that they are willing to have a Palestinian state that exists alongside Israel-if I am wrong, and I hope I am, then I would appreciate someone providing me with information about that.

[@guygomel]

no you are not mistaken, that is how it is the Palestinians openly say that their only goal is the destruction of Israel

[@starrett9556]

At 31:17 you mention the UN partition plan and you say "it never happened" I feel like you are being a little dishonest here. This is generally the moderate opinion of how the borders should look today, and yet it was not the Jews that rejected this plan it was the Arabs. I'm not going to claim that I don't understand their feelings. If I was a Palestinian during this time I too would've probably rejected this plan, but to just gloss over that fact seems a little biased.

[@Pyrohawk]

Also "yeah there was a war in 48 oopsie" is a helluva way to say "the Arabs launched a genocidal campaign and failed". At least they mentioned the expulsion of Jews from the MENA in a *passing* sense, of course not commenting on why this happened.

[@thespanishcatfromthemiddle2636]

You're right, but I want to clearify that the "Arabs" that rejected the plan were actually one very specific arab named Haj Amin alHusseini (aka The Mufti), who was basically the dictator of the arab society in Palestine throughout 1920-1948. Him and his supporters have slaughtered every arab who openly opposed his views. He was the one to reject the plan and initiate a war with his armed gangs, in the name of the arabs. We always say "arabs" did things but it was actually him who pulled most of the strings in this time period. I feel like speaking about Israel-Palestine without mentioning him is like speaking about ww2 without mentioning Hitler.

[@PureInsanity]

Right. Not mentioning him, his visit to Hitler to get the Jews of mandate Palestine in Germany's hands, not mentioning the other Arab nations that attacked Israel in 48'. It was just him...

[@lionelsntm5052]

i actually think that the role of Mister alHusseini was ineeed quite large and shouldn't be underestimated. He was a big fan of nazi ideology and hitlers vision of a "final solution" and became an offical member of the Waffen SS. Later on he was living in Nazi Germany and became a leading role in a radio programm, that was broadcasting from out of a little town called Zeesen into northern africa and arab states filled with classic nazi propaganda (because megalomaniac nazi-germany was also aiming to conquer that area). That is one of the main passages how anti-jewish stereotypes that were forged by the nazi's found their way into muslimic countries. before it wasnt a such a big topic. so it is fair to say that alHusseini as an extremist played a very defining role in the beginnings of this coflict and was aiming to silience moderate voices from within arab communities.

[@andorifjohn]

The Arabs only rejected it because the sionists, not Jews, where quite open with their plan to forcefully expel Arabs and also take more land! Wich they did!

[@04nbod]

I just want to point out. Jews have always lived in that region (Israel/Palestine). Not all of them left. Not all of them converted to Islam. They were oppressed people which is why a lot converted in the first place. Its not the case that the Jewish diaspora just started buying land there among the arabs out of nowhere

[@saadhozam1240]

to oppress people and not give them equal rights is wrong.

[@raibilrei]

You’re totally right, Jews have been living in Palestine all the time. I just want to point out: The Jews living there were an integral part of of the population in that region. They spoke Arabic. There have never been an Anti Jewish sentiment in the Islamic world like it was in Christian Europe. Look at Spain under Arab rule, there lived Muslims and Christians and Jews peacefully together. It’s only after the Christians reconquered the country, that all of a sudden only Christians were left. The Zionist movement on the other hand, although they were oppressed as European Jews by the European Christians, had a quite European view regarding people from other parts of the world. They felt superior. Maybe the first Ashkenazi immigrants in modern times, coming from Eastern Europe before the establishment of the Zionist movement, were different. Maybe they were more like all those poor people from Europe emigrating to Canada or America. But the Zionist movement was a political movement. They didn’t just want to go there to make a living without oppression. They went there to establish their European rules on the land. They never felt any immigrant obligation like learning the language and integrating into the society they infiltrated. In the contrary, they segregated quite harshly from the population already living there in a society that had been formed over 2000 years without Ashkenazi Jews. They even chose a language that hadn’t been spoken as everyday language for centuries. They regarded their Arabic neighbors as an inferior race. Well, how could they know? They were Europeans from the early 19hundreds colonialist Europe. And if anyone is the villain in the story, it’s the Europeans from all over the world. The sad thing is, the Zionists never got over this mindset.

[@christopherdew2355]

@@raibilrei Thanks for this enriching insight. Rashid Khalidi notes some effort on the part of people like David Ben-Gurion and Yitzhak Ben-Zvi who took Ottoman nationality, studied in Instanbul and learned Arabic and Turkish ('The Hundred Years' War on Palestine', 2020, p. 19).

[@ml242]

@@raibilrei the idea of everyone getting along is revisionist history. jews in safed were massacred in 1660 and 1834. they paid jizya taxes to the ottomans and in north african countries and were subject to other violence, even being slaughtered if they didn't convert to islam like in Yemen. When zionism came about it was a pretty uniform mistreatment of jews throughout MENA. no one said that country over there has nothing to do with these people that have lived here for thousands of years, like in baghdad where neighborhoods burned. People didn't want to leave those communities but had no choice. Many many other examples from any century from Arabic colonization to 1960 when everyone left. were they better off than in europe? probably, but that is a pretty low bar.

[@lionelsntm5052]

@@raibilreithis is an interesting point, which is sometimes a bit under-discussed. to my knoledge it is very true that anti-jewish sentiments and preudice in the muslim world were not at all as strong as in europe under christianty. jews were a protected minority as dhimmis but still had not the full rights as muslims. interesting is how the classic european and christian anti-semitism and anti-judaism did eventually find its way into muslimic countries after the start of the zionist movement. Because it did. Especially throught the figure of the grandmufti Mohammed alHusseini who was probably the main leading figure in palestinian nationalist movement. He was really into Nazi-ideology and later even became an offical member of the Waffen SS ( you can look it up it is no secret). As such he introduced the anti-jewish narratives that had developed in europe over centuries and that were forged into a systemical propaganda by the nazis to the arab world and especially the palestinain nationalistic movement. (you can look this stuff up anywhere. just google his name and Radio Zeesen p.e....) for me this fact is often missing in assesing the current situation. it is true that jews and arabs got along well once. it is also true however that al Husseini infused the arab world with severe anti-jewish nazi-narratives. the hamas-charta for example (at least until 2017) was full of it. don't know how you guys see it but i think this is a very crucial point...

[@starrett9556]

Near the end of the video he mentions that during British occupation of Palestine, the jews were buying land from the British. It is my understanding that the land was purchased directly from the Arab land owners at the time. To be honest I am not very well read on this issue and was wondering if anyone could provide a source or clarification that the land was purchased from "The British" rather than individual Arab land owners. Thanks

[@DIY-Mechanic]

It was both. The arabs sold it secretly because the people on the street didnt liked it. But not all the land was owned by individuals, therefore sold by britian.

[@starrett9556]

@@DIY-Mechanic got it. thank you

[@shanybiran468]

You are correct. Recommended reading, Palestine 1936: The Great Revolt and the Roots of the Middle East Conflict

[@menjoali4164]

Before the British occupation, the Jews immigrated to Palestine, and the wealthy Jews bought Palestinian lands from the Jews. But on the Palestinian side, this was normal because the Ottoman Empire was very tolerant of all sects and because there were Jews already living in Palestine, so it seemed natural. But the plan from the beginning was to occupy Palestine, and Britain occupied Palestine to accelerate the process of exodus of European Jews, and thus the occupation that we know now took place.

[@DIY-Mechanic]

@@menjoali4164 occupied palestine from who or what?

[@kevinnyc2007]

You missed a lot of history. There was an Egyptian war before the 6 day war and yom kipper war. Also Israel was declared a state in 1948 and then was attached. You switched the order. Get your facts correct if you are going to give timelines

[@pantethine66]

The origin of the Ashkenazi Jews, who come most recently from Europe, has largely been shrouded in mystery. But a new study suggests that at least their maternal lineage may derive largely from Europe. Though the finding may seem intuitive, it contradicts the notion that European Jews mostly descend from people who left Israel and the Middle East around 2,000 years ago. Instead, a substantial proportion of the population originates from local Europeans who converted to Judaism, said study co-author Martin Richards, an archaeogeneticist at the University of Huddersfield in England.

[@aum1040]

The video says that "sometime in the latte 1800s and early 1900s Gazans stopped thinking of themselves as Ottomans and instead thought of themselves as Palestinians". What evidence can I use to support this claim?

[@UsefulCharts]

Just google "first use of the word Palestinian". There's some debate over when exactly that was but it was sometime between 1880 and 1920.

[@aum1040]

@@UsefulCharts The Google results certainly do support use in that time frame, but they fall spectacularly short of the claim in your video, which is that the population actually changed how it self-identified. It is pretty easy to show that in the 1947 time frame, the Arab population in the Mandate overwhelmingly used Arab, and that Palestinian in the absence of the word Arab was disproportionately used to describe Jews. Was there a period of time prior to this in which the Arab population in the area actually called itself Palestinian to a greater degree than we see post-WW2? What was the nature of the shift in self-identity (if any) between 1880 and the end of Ottoman rule, and was this shift anything more than the actual political end of the Ottoman empite?

[@lmarsh5407]

​@aum1040 i dont have a scholarly article but i have my family stories. im palestinian christian. My grandfather was born in nazareth and had a palestinian passport. Thats just an example of one pre world war two

[@moshco23]

​@lmarsh5407 Yea but EVERYONE living in the Mandate had a Palestinian passport, because that's the name of the Mandate. It wasn't independent.

[@moshco23]

​@UsefulCharts If that's the case, why did they overwhelmingly deny the word "Palestine" in the Peel Commission that was even after the dates you mentioned? "There is no such country! 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. 'Palestine' is alien to us; it is the Zionists who introduced it." -- Awni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Secretary of the Arab Higher Committee, before the Peel Commission in 1937. Every other member of the Arab Higher Committee and the rest of the tribes living there said exactly the same. They still had the desire to become part of Greater Syria.

[@jstdr4774]

Question: why are the British a colonial power with no right to sell land but it is assumed the Ottomon Turks had proper authority and were not similarly a colonial power ? Answer: because the Ottomons are not Western.

[@DebPercy]

The point was about selling the land, not about colonial powers. The British sold the land and it is questionable whether they had the right to do so.

[@gaylerosenthal1828]

Please provide a source that says Arabs of Palestine thought of Palestinian nationalism in the late 19th and early 20th century. They were just Arabs who lived under Ottoman rule until 1917.

[@deeman-zw7pp]

Nice history telling. I am not from middle east but nice to learn something that cause the conflict today.

[@maheshs4056]

Matt, you deserve a pat on your back for this video and all the work that went into it. Such a historically significant place this is. I wish I had a time machine to go back in time and see how it's people have evolved and grown over the years.

[@Helzermanable]

You forgot to mention that the IDF are still trying to find their hostages….and the hostages of the USA. Also, you forgot to mention that Hamxs leaders said they want to do the “October 7” over and over again. You also for got to mention how many tons of aid Israel has facilitated. You also forgot to mention the stats of the “woman and children” of Gaza that were “killed” came from the Hamxs Health Department…..all related to those “immoral” (as you said accurately) fighters/rapists where civilian clothes. Their stats cannot be trusted. Oh, by the way, the Aid that is given to Gaza is all being highjacked by Hamxs. The civilians/combatant death ratio is the best ever in history in urban warfare ever in the history of the world. The IDF are the MOST moral army currently in the world…..trying to protect their tiny nation. Hence it is a DEFENSE FORCE. All Hamxs has to do is lay down their arms, free the hostages and surrender to the IDF….especially Sinwar. His name says it all. It was a SIN for him to start the WAR.

[@jonathanentwistle30]

The same level of excellent information that I have come to always expect from this channel 👏 thanks

[@warfighter1988]

I do think youre not emphasising the fact that news already lived in that area enough. Also a lot of arabs especially egyptians emigrated to palestine during british mandate. The border was open to everyone not just jews and a lot of people moved there for work. I can find the source if anyone is interested. The simple fact of the matter there probably never be peace untill both sides completely stop. Also another annoying thing that people seem to forget to mention is that hamas is hiding under civilians and wears civilian clothing. You can search on youtube right now drone footage of the idf and youll see them in civilian suburban areas wearing civilian clothing. If we mention the idfs body count we also have to mention what hamas is doing that is causing this in the first place. This is 101 terror tactics and it has to be adressed

[@Dr.CandanEsin]

Objective presentation of history is a delight to watch and learn. Thank you.

[@Fpardomu]

The part where you said ‘hoping for the safe return of the hostages’ is useless!!! Hoping for Hamas to return them is not going to do anything. For the hostages to return they would have to be rescued in some way. Hamas doesn’t want to return them. It may sound pretty nice to go and protest for world peace, but that doesn’t do much.

[@magnadramon0068]

One last thing the stats for civilian deaths you used are outdated. AP news did a article on this the 60% civilian death toll only applied to the first month of the war. Since then the civilian death toll has declined to less than 38%.

[@angelao1133]

The last Jewish Revolt (against the Romans/Byzantines) was against Heraclius in early 7th century. There was an army of 20,000 Jewish soldiers allied with the Sasanians (Persians). The fact that they were able to raise an army of this size suggests there was still a sizeable Jewish population in the country at that point. The synagogues were not for pilgrims but for the permanent resident population. After the expulsion of Jews from Spain most resettled in the Ottoman empire, including many in "Palestine" (Southern Syria). You failed to mention many other facts pertinent to Gaza, and your suggestion that there was a Palestinian identity of any sort before the 1920s is absurd. You talk about Zionism but not pan Arabism, which was the driving force against it - not a romantic ideal of Palestinian self-determination. That fantasy emerged only in 1964, inspired by Nasser's pan Arabism alongside Soviet Cold War strategy. The video is historically illiterate and not at all "balanced".

[@zeiadayman777]

Thanks for taking up the time for this video really needed it ❤

[@michaelrae9599]

Amazing how history crystallizes insight. Great video.

[@adaravi1997]

"What Nazi Germany did in World War II was wrong, but the British response was also wrong." That's how ridiculous it sounds.

[@franciscoguinledebarros4429]

It's... True? Like the way that you worded it is even one of the most flattering ones to use Just look up the bombings of Munich or what the soviets did when they made it to Berlin, the first think to realize in a war is that no one is in the right, maybe arguably the first stages of self defense but when it gets going righteousness is out the window

[@Thedarkknight2244]

How is that ridiculous? No one is saying the magnitude of either wrong is the same. But wrong is still wrong

[@iBot1978]

You mean, comparing the atrocities of a resistance group fighting against their decade long oppressor with a state military slaughtering 10000s of innocent civilians sounds wrong? I agree…

[@benb6527]

Wrong, we discourage aggressors and borders. Palestinians have always been the aggressors, branded as “resistance.” There is no right to resistance in international law, only uti possessetis uris. Israel is the only sovereign power in historical Palestine, armed struggle is aggressor in this context.

[@leoniep9231]

@Thedarkkmight2244 Ending the thought process at 'it's just wrong' is not very constructive, though. I understand it's tempting to want to see yourself as a good person who does not condone violence in any way, shape or form and be content with that conclusion, but that does not actually solve anything at the root of the problem because the reality is not that simple. The constructive train of thought is to think further: what would the alternative be? Is Israel not allowed to defend its own population (roughly a quarter of which are Israeli Arab, btw) after many of their land offerings and peace negotiations were met with nothing but violence? When Israel listened to the world and agreed to a ceasefire not too long ago, was this ceasefire not breached by Hamas' attack on a bus stop in Jerusalem not even 48 hours later? Hamas will never agree to peace with a Jewish state, it's their declared goal and purpose to m*rder every jew they can find, which is written in their charta, proudly declared in interviews fearuring Hamas leaders, and obvious from their actions time and time again. Israel's war is obviously not a nice thing to witness, but it is justified and might be necessary, unfortunately. Except you have a constructive alternative I did not consider...?

[@taniapatrikios6883]

Thank you so much for this! Thank you for such clarity and incredible explanation! Thank you for explaining things as they are! You are very brave to express your opinion the way you do! I can’t imagine the backlash! Keep going, keep creating, keep educating! The world needs people like you!

[@Rachelblue237]

And of course that youve neglected to mention Israel left Gaza in 2005 as part of a peace deal, which ended up blowing in its face in the form of a bloody murderous intifada

[@koreandersdream]

Nice video. Just at the end not accurate: In Gaza the Palestinians weren't second class citizens, as there was no more israel authority after 2006. The last 17 years Gaza was completely in control of Hamas.

[@0106johnny]

So Israel didn't control most of the infrastructure, the airspace, the waters and so on?

[@OmriGrin]

And things went so much better for them since then, right?

[@theperson5185]

@@OmriGrinI mean, they have their own country? There was no Israeli troops (ik the complete opposite of an occupation) within Gaza for 16 years outside of special operations that generally lasted less than a month.

[@jonewing9424]

You are generally pretty good which is why I like watching your videos. However one mistake at around the 17:00 mark: you talk about the year of the Second Jewish War as being 135 BCE when that was definitely 135 CE.

[@Noryb01]

Palestinians are not living as second class citizens in Israel. Palestinians are living as second class citizens in Gaza and the West Bank by the hands of their own people.

[@shafsteryellow]

Why lie

[@itaye666]

​@@shafsteryellow Where is the lie? Israeli Arabs (48's Palastinians who joined Israeli society) have the same rights, the same benefits, the same capabilities as other citizens of our country. The difference being that Gaza/WB palastinians who don't have Israeli citizenship, are then treated as "Second Class" since they are not actually citizens.

[@andorifjohn]

​@@itaye666not true.

[@itaye666]

@@andorifjohn what did I say that's factually wrong? My dentist is Christian Arab (48 Palastinian) There are Arabs that work in our courts Arabs are the biggest minority (roughly 2 million) in Israel and act as members of our society. I would ask you to back your claims with facts, but your side doesn't deal with facts

[@Evanroz]

Not a good job, Mr. Usefulcharts. You can do better research by investigating primary sources of both sides of the conflict and by focusing on the insanity of Muslim extremism which is at the heart of the conflict.

[@WhoIsCalli]

This was fab. Thanks Matt. Tough topic I understand, but appreciated you creating this

[@Viv_from_Irl]

There are a lot of omissions. There was no mention who started the wars. Went to war is misleading. He did take sides. They were offered a state 5 times and the palestinians rejected all. Very disappointing

[@garyl5128]

Agreed, there is a distinct anti Jewish bias unfortunately, withholding certain historic information and reducing the Jewish longevity in the region, making it appear less significant than it is. Archaeology doesn't seem to agree with that assessment either. The Egyptian Merneptah Stele mentions Israel in 1207BCE for example, which suggests that Israel has existed for around 3,500 years. He starts off suggesting that there is no evidence that the Hebrews came from Egypt, but there is. There is some evidence that the Israelites lived in Egypt which includes: Tell el-Dab'a: Excavations at this site have found evidence of a foreign, Semitic population. Some believe this could be the ancient city of Avaris, which was once the capital of Hios and home to an ancient Semitic people. Tomb of Rekhmire: This tomb contains images of light-skinned Semitic slaves making bricks. Serabit el-Khadim: This site has evidence of Semitic slaves. Not mentioning that the 1948 two state solution offered only 40% of the region to Israel is significant in my opinion, especially as more than 50% of that was southern dessert, the Negev, but Israel accepted that - effectively only 20% of the region that was livable and allocated to them. The surrounding Arab nations didn't want there to be a state of Israel so started the war the next day - no discussion, straight to war. It doesn't appear to be about land, but simply because they didn't want a state of Israel. He mentions the Nakba as if it was simply a Jewish aggression, but it only occurred as a result of the war started by the Arab nations, and also doesn't mention that Jordan ethnically cleansed all Jews from the West Bank at that time. He mentions new Jewish settlers as if there were very few Jews there before 1948, but doesn't mention new settlers of other denominations or that Israeli archaeology is rife in the region, dating back and continuously for thousands of years, and no Palestinian archaeology. Judea is the Jewish homeland and has been for thousands of years, regardless of who else may have lived there. The Romans renamed it (2000 years ago) because of the Jewish uprisings, not because of others who lived in the region, which suggests it was the Israelis defending their homeland, rather than settlers in the region causing problems Zionism was simply the descendants of displaced Jews returning home to be with their own people who had remained there since it was Judea. They bought land legally. He suggests that the British were helping the Jews to do that, but doesn't mention that there were disagreements and conflict between Jews and the British which suggests there wasn't such a happy accord between them. The 1967 6 day war started after the surrounding Arab nations had militarily surrounded Israel at its borders with the intention of removing them entirely, a promise that had been made in 1948 so that the Palestinians could live in Israel. It was a promise of the genocide of Israel that even remains to this day - it's even in the Hamas constitution. From 1948 to 1967, none of the Arab nations wanted Palestinians and ensured they remained in Gaza and the West Bank waiting for Israel to become their new home after the Genocide of the Israelis living there. That never came to fruition though. Having won the 6 day war, the only reason Israel kept a military presence in Gaza, the West Bank and Golan Heights was as a means to defend themselves against similar future attacks right on their borders. Pretty much everything Israel has done has been as a consequence of being attacked. Land gained in a defensive war, which this was for Israel, is land that is legally gained. After World War II, Germany lost territory east of the Oder and Neisse rivers to Poland, and about 15 million ethnic Germans were forced to leave. The war also caused Germany to lose 24% of its territory, from 468,787 km2 before the 1938 annexation of Austria to 357,022 km2 after the 1990 reunification of Germany. This makes the Nakba etc look insignificant in comparison, but you never hear any mention of Germany's land loss, or of them complaining about being 'occupied'. You can't complain about the consequences of a war you started and lost. I could go on, but there is so much missing, that this account isn't as middle of the road as some seem to think it is.

[@twerp_]

@@garyl5128 There is no answer to “who started the fight”. The answer to that question will always be different depending on when you start the story

[@garyl5128]

​@@twerp_ That's quite a generic statement. it's quite clear when the surrounding Arab nations attacked Israel in 1948, simply because Israel accepted the proposed two state solution. They were attacked the very next day without any provocation. No attempts were made to discuss it with Israel, it was just straight to war. That's where the current conflict started and it's been pretty much the same story ever since. October 7th is another example. How far back do you want to go? Going back in time to when the Hebrews are said to have settled with the other tribes in Canaan would be 3,500 years ago or more. Judea and Israel was well established after that, and the Roman invasion 2,000 years ago was clearly an attack on Israel that resulted in the land being renamed to Palestine due to the Israeli uprisings. Roman history tells us that.

[@ISawABear]

Should have just let the Sea Peoples keep it /s That being said i think this is a really cool format for you guys. You should do this for major cities around the world. i bet people would love posters of the timeline of their city they live in!

[@jasperchance3382]

better still if Rome never fell and Christianity and Islam never came to be.

[@Emcee_Squared]

Ok go tell that the Nebuchadnezzar II

[@user-zr9ze7sm4b]

Ramses lll is the one who make them settle there after a treaty with them those people likely where running from 300 years of drought in the region

[@striker121S]

Egypt was there 3500BCE they should have kept it lol 😂 Also I didn’t expect to see you outside of foxhole videos 😂

[@Carpediem357]

​@@jasperchance3382considering Rome spread Christianity you'd have to make Jesus not die and Roman Polytheism to remain.

[@tristanotear3059]

Absorbing video. I’m glad that if appeared on my feed!

[@thromeas1]

Great video... other than glossing right over that fact that the UN adopted resolution 181 for the creation of two states in November 1947, Israel declaring independence in May 1948, and then Arab countries immediately declaring war on Israel.

[@sheri969]

Yeah no one cares about that part unfortunately. Have to let Jews always be the bad guys.

[@sdsdssification]

Why would Arabs accept a deal from a colonizer backed and founded UN. They “started” the war because they don’t want to be colonized.

[@fallendaemon]

Sir, I object to you calling the Nabateans Arabs, they were not. They were descendents of Achaemenids that were abandoned when the Seleucid Empire collapsed. There was no "arab empire", there was the Sasanian Empire that fell to the Rashidun Caliphate, but the Caliphate were not Arabs. Arabs as a group did not emerge until the end of the Ottoman Empire. The Arabs were a group that formed primarily at the urging of Hussein bin Ali al-Hashimi who led what he called the great Arab revolt. Prior to this 'Arab' was a Greek exonym for the people of the Arabian peninsula, which also happened to be a Greek exonym. Arabs as a group did not exist until the Great Arab Revolt in 1916. And they're only called Arabs due to the hellenization of the region convincing the hellenized people that lived there two thousand years later that the ancient name for their peninsula was Arabia, which it was not.

[@okbkcq]

Nice secular view and details. Interesting omissions. Very sympathetic to Arab POV.

[@DanielDaniel-zd9jy]

Why hold hostsges and call for a ceasefire?

[@user-im4kp8eg6n]

How many Palestinians are imprisoned in israel unjustly ?

[@AbuAhmad-d7e]

why occupy the land and build illegal settlements?

[@mikeconnery4652]

Thanks for this video, it answers a lot of questions.

[@leiderdawg]

Showing the modern (post-1948) boundaries of the West Bank while talking about historical Gaza is confusing and presents a false dichotomy

[@hamaljay]

Well that's like, your opinion, man.

[@TemujinKojiro]

1099-1187 crusaders. You continently left out that they butchered every Muslim and Jew in Jerusalem

[@mustaphastjules1194]

what were the reasons for the crusades?

[@shadyk3655]

You saying that "israel" has the right to exist is like a French telling an Iraqi that lSlS has the right to create an "Islamic State" on top of his land. Anyone who think the same is invited to give them their land. It's not yours to state your opinion, especially when you know it was literally created by massacring the land owners and by stealing their land.

[@john2001plus]

His conclusions are in my opinion a bit biased. The Palestinians have had multiple good offers for peace since 1948 and have refused all of them.

[@Poppyseed-1960]

Since 1937 actually. Plus A state could’ve been formed by Egypt which held Gaza and Jordan which held Judea/Samaria until 1967 but they wanted something else -- which was what? -- as did the Arabs living there.

[@tonyuzan7171]

This story omits that the Muslim Arabs were offered their own state twice, once by the English and once by the UN, and turned it down twice. Makes me wonder how accurate the rest of this video is

[@uzhasair]

The 1947 plan was described as “Pro-Zionist” even by the body that created the plan. The Arab Muslims were over 66% of the population but would have received only 42% of the land. I don’t think war was the answer but protests from the people were being ignored by the UN Council and the British Mandate. I didn’t know that the British provided their own separate plan, can you please send it? I’ve never heard of another plan and want to see what it was.

[@empress2529]

This is accurate as the BBC, totally bias against Israel and the west, totally pro Islamics. Please listen again & see how the Islamc invasions are described as "took control", the "city was handled over to them", min 20:33 : "Gaza was occupied PEACEFULLY" by Arabs (yeah after 3 years of siege, almost no one survived), when reffering to other invaders he uses words such as "invaders", "conquers", in min 30:20 Britain is a Colonialist Power" in the Middle East, but what about the Arabs=Muslims in Middle East? Elsewhere? so peaceful and not Colonialist Powers past, present, future, at all!

[@canisiusmataunaga2491]

Such a propaganda

[@TheOnlyAndreySotnikov]

The Peel Commission’s plan and the UN partition offer are often presented in a distorted light, like in your comment. The Peel Commission wasn't some negotiation table where the Arabs were invited to sign a deal and refused. It was six white British officials unilaterally deciding to carve up someone else's land. Nobody consulted the Palestinian Arabs when the commission drew up its report, and whatever opinions came after didn't influence any legal or governing actions.

[@tonyuzan7171]

@@TheOnlyAndreySotnikov. Yes, the

[@nigelbellecoste1391]

29:36: "The British sold even more land" This is incorrect. While yes the buying first increased under British mandate... the buying was from distant ottoman landlord's or high status arabs in the mandate. Close to the 2nd world War, the British actually put heavy restrictions on migration and land buying

[@0106johnny]

Actually the largest purchases was from Greek landowners

[@welcometonebalia]

Thank you (and good luck).

[@aka1Khalid]

Its a rare gem to find a fact based video in this age. It was engaging, well put together and didn't veer off course. Thanks!

[@normanwilder4935]

30:45 They didn`t call themselves Palestinians until 1964!

[@UsefulCharts]

Lol. You can literally find images online of newspapers from 1911 that use the Palestinian. Pretty sure 1911 came before 1964.

[@healthy3074]

@@UsefulChartsThose are usually Jewish Yishuv sources, not Arab.

[@healthy3074]

Coins, flags, sports teams…

[@UsefulCharts]

Well, there's an Arab newspaper called Filistin that used the term frequently as well. The not until 1964 thing is just Israeli propaganda.

[@jonathankriesler2037]

⁠@@UsefulCharts Well the point is that both Jewish and Arab people called themselves Palestinians because that was just the name of the land. There wasn’t a national identity based around ‘Palestine’ That doesn’t negate from Palestinians' right today for a country But it does give important historical context. Both people from Rome and Greeks considered themselves Romans . And the Greeks probably till more recently than people from Rome. National identity and self identification is extremely complicated and definitely not as simple as you put it here. Everyone who lived in mandatory Palestine considered themselves Palestinians. The Jews also considered themselves as a distinct group. And the ARABS also considered themselves as part of a larger Arab nation. Maybe like the relationship between Wales and the UK

[@jeupater1429]

Fleeing persecution does not give you the right to kick people out of their land.

[@celestialsatheist1535]

Exactly Israel belongs to Israelis

[@jeupater1429]

@@celestialsatheist1535 Studies on Palestinian DNA conducted by Jewish researchers have revealed that modern Palestinian DNA is identical to the people living there 8000 years ago. Jewish DNA is not identical. Look it up on TED talks. So whatever idea your on about is now in line with the facts. Jews do not have any legit claim to that land. And no, bronze age myths are not a legit claim

[@Chaneloweenz]

@@jeupater1429 This isn't true though? No such studies (at least real ones for that matter) Have ever stated that the DNA of Palestinians is Identical to a person living there 8000 years ago? I mean that's quite literally bullshit that you just made up or found on some Nazi 4chan thread. With the never ending movement of humans in and out of the land that's genuinely impossible and leaves me baffled that anyone could be so unintelligent to not take that into account whilst trying to spread misinformation with clear intent to remove Jewish connection to the land. Time for the real facts; both Ashkenazi Jews and Palestinians both have diverse admixtures resulting in a 40% - 70% Canaanite DNA, Palestinians DNA being mixed with Arabs from Muslim Colonialism and more recently from an influx of Egyptians, Egyptian. Ashkenazi Jews on the other hand have mixtures from southern Europe which makes sense as a large number of Jews were enslaved by Roman nobility and brought to Europe, doesn't take away from the fact that they are from the land. The connection is clear and thats JUST Ashkenazi Jews, when we bring into account the Sephardi and Mizrahi Jews who are much less mixed as they avoided enslavement from Europe, They make up the large majority of Israelis. Bronze age myths aren't a legit claim which is why nobody is using myths as a legit claim, they are using historical facts and Jewish history in general, not passages out of a bible. So whatever idea you're on about is now in line with the facts. ;)

[@AncientSocrates]

​@@celestialsatheist1535land thief

[@PureInsanity]

They bought the land and owned as much of it as the Arabs did in 1947.

[@diklaart]

Saying 'never again' is important mainly because the world seems to have a short-term memory and in this context it is interesting that at the end of the video you chose to describe how Israel reacted on October 7th and not to describe what Hamas did on October 7th that caused Israel to react the way it is reacting. Anyway, great video. thanks

[@arnbrandy]

What a wonderful video! Thank you for the excellent research and presentation. One point I find a bit simplified is equating Caananites with Israelites. It is a great way to show how the Israelites were mostly local Caananite tribes, in contrast with the biblical narrative of migration and conquest. But there were others, no? Like the Moabites and Phoenicians?

[@UsefulCharts]

True

[@evarovner4365]

Moabites and Phoenicians are essentially canaanite. Their languages are canaanite languages and genetically Phoenicians Israelite etc are canaanite genetics

[@Karimoz]

Finally, someone who puts decent effort and context to the claims by both sides!!!!!

[@fitri1885]

This video is really helpful and easy to understand at the same time. I am really glad I stumbled upon your contents today as I learn much more about the historical context which were mentioned a lot of times but not described in a balance manner in a lot of times too. There are bits here and there that I think still needs more research (from my side) to understand more, and to come to an agree or disagreement, and people are definitely biased so we can only minimize it in every effort of course, but I can see much less in this video and it definitely helps answering lots of questions already. Also, thank you so much for bravely showing a your support for a Free Palestine (alongside support for a sanctuary place for the Jewish Community). You probably have to take some risk in doing this as a Jewish. I hope you can keep posting a balanced and try to be unbiased in your video contents 😊

[@TV-xm4ps]

The Palestinian Arabs started the 1948 war. I think that was not clear from your video. Also worth mentioning that thousands of Arabs had left their homes before the war started, because they had been told by the Arabs armies that they could return after the Jews were killed of exiled. Quite important fact, I believe. Also, they had all of Trans-Jordan to go to. It seems to me that you forgot to mention that. It is also important to mention that no demand for a Palestinian state were made while Gaza and the so-called West Bank were under the control of Egypt and Joran.

[@faerykat]

Parts of what you said are either untrue or misleading. I also used to believe that the other Arabs told the Palestinians to leave Gaza so that they could kill the European Jewish settlers. That talking point has been debunked in that so many Palestinians had already been kicked out and displaced by the European Jews before the war began. They didn't just leave because there was going to be a war. The Palestinian's homes and businesses were already being taken over by the European Jews prior to the fighting. Also, as far as who started the war, don't you think that pillaging, stealing, brutalizing, plundering, and vandalizing counts as starting a war? In this entire video, each time a group conquered or took over Gaza, that group was held responsible for starting or causing whatever happened. Suddenly, in 1948, when the European Jews did what pre-modern conquerors or colonizers did, the responsibly gets flipped back around on the Arabs who apparently had the audacity to fight back. I hope you can appreciate the cognitive dissonance I'm pointing out here.

[@PureInsanity]

@faerykat What the hell are you talking about. 1947, UN made a plan for the partition of the mandate into an arab state and a Jewish state (although the Arabs already got trans-jordan, but whatever). The Arabs didn't like that and they started the war. Majority of historians agree that the war of 1947 was started by the Arabs. And in 1948 the neighboring Arab nations also started it. As for the nakba, Benny Morris covered it and mentioned that many left because of the orders of the Arab generals who said they will kill all the Jews (or drive them to the sea) and then the Arabs can go back to their homes, so they left. There are also a few interviews from Arabs of that time that say they left because of those orders. Can you point me to a source proving otherwise?

[@HuckleberryHim]

Started the war... after being invaded and forcibly displaced by thousands of Europeans? Also worth mentioning yet another fake allegation of supposed planned anti-Jew violence (have yet to see a single source or major person ever state this, ever, even with all you zionists shouting it non-stop)? They had all of another land to be forcibly displaced onto to make room for the "chosen ones"? Next time you make multiple points, try to make one of them a smart one.

[@ml242]

@@PureInsanity There were orders that were documented around haifa but it is not as widespread as a lot of zionists believe. that said, civilians who were wealthy chose to leave rather than be around violence or sent their families away to fight, understandable, but also the consequences of starting a war. 300k ALSO stayed and are Israeli citizens. I think they're happy with the decision. It was a rocky first decade but things are much better now. There were also 70k Israelis living in the west bank, all kicked out by Jordan. Unmentioned everywhere. So the truth is somewhat between you and @faerykat. At least per Benny Morris and others. The thing is that when you have a war how it will end is unpredictable. It's called the nakba because they lost. had they won it could have been south lebanon, who knows what would have happened who would rule, etc. but the israelis had nowhere to go. the arabs weren't allowed to go anywhere because they were a useful foil to israel. sad.

[@andorifjohn]

Not true. The intent of the massacres of Palestinians before the war was to create a war.

[@roeyni]

All in all quite balanced. But some inaccuracies need to be noted. 1. Jews were not buying land from the British, they bought it from the Arabs. So suggesting these purchases are not legitimate is incorrect. 2. The land if Israel (or Zion) was for nearly 2000 years the center focus of the Jews and appears in daily prayers. That is why the national Jewish movement is called Zionism. Saying this area was just one option for the Jewish state is ignoring the fact that other options were proposed mostly from out side the Jewish national group. 3. Asserting that Israel is the one who destroyed old sites, is based on Hamas reports, and it was made evident that they misfire into their own territories often. Not to mention that arms AMD military personnel use these sites as shelters making them legitimate targets. so a disclaimer would have been in place. 4. The entire summary is based on Hamas figures. You missed out on the fact that as much as half of the people killed in Gaza were not "uninvolved civilians". Never in the history of warfare was the ratio of civilians to military was so low. War is not a nice thing, and this one is not an exception. Showing a poster of Jewish person with a poster for free Palestine (whatever that means) is far from imparcial , and totally redundant for the purpose of this historic overview. And speaking of history, you should have also explain how all the Jews from Arab countries (which are the majority of Jews currently living in Israel) had to flee their homes. It is not just the Arabs that had to move out because of the war (that Arabs started, just like Oct 7th). 5. Finally, the comment about the Arabs living as second class citizens is an absurd. Israel is not in control in control of Gaza Strip for nearly 20 years. There are 0 Jews in Gaza, so how can the be second class, they are the only ones there, and they are not In Israel. Who are Arabs second class to? Not clear. (Atmabs and all other minorities have full equality within Israel though... )

[@Justaperson-i8h]

Thank you for pointing this out and taking the time to write this out. I was thinking the same as I listened. There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation out there and it seems that useful charts doesn’t have the full information. Thank you

[@CurtisThomas-l9p]

A load of Joonazi Goebbelstein propaganda bs

[@SlantedLand]

Thanks for this important clarification.

[@gaylerosenthal1828]

Why did you omit the fact that the war of 1948 between Jews and Arabs was started by Arabs and that Jews accepted the partition as put forth by the UN ? Read Efraim Karsh’s book Palestine Betrayed.

[@vicegripp]

As well, the Balfourt Declaration specifically stated that Zionists **did not** want to displace the local communities of the land.

[@yehoyadatal3445]

Good video, apart from the fact that in 2005 Israel completely withdrew from the Gaza strip and Palestinians were giving full control. They elected hamas

[@TheSpanishDude1]

NetAnyahu funded Hamas to defeat Fatah.

[@JodBless]

would've been nice if you explained a bit more about the uprise of muhammad, the holy war he started (late 620's CE) in which the Banu Qurayza (a Jewish tribe) got ethnically cleansed/enslaved after which islamic arabs colonized Jewish land, and other islamic conquests, since these points were crucial to the development of the relationship between muslims and Jews. Also could've been more transparent about how the nakba started, may 15th 1948 palestinians invaded Israëli territory with the help of other arab countries thus initiating violence. other than that this video is pretty good👍

[@redbellyblackprod]

Yes he has missed a small number of very bad actors in the historical timeline most of which pushed the historical hatred and dislike that feeds the current propaganda and so probably better left laid under the surface so as not to feed the current frensy our world seems to be having at present. 🙂

[@hiyah_net4821]

I hope you revise this video, and edit the ending where you interject your personal opinion. We like the way you normally deliver your charts as straight forward, unbiased, and succinct. The commentary at the end made this video unnecessarily decisive where it needn't have been. Just the facts please: people, dates, and times.

[@XercinVex]

4:39 “later I’ll be discussing things that are difficult and polarizing” right after he talks about whether or not the Exodus is meant to be taken literally or as literary fiction. 😅 oh boy this is going to get extra fun

[@roboparks]

The Exodus has to be explained in Theological Terms . Which the narrator is not a Theologian.

[@breensprout]

He has already talked about the historical view of the exodus multiple times on this channel.

[@Weesperbuurt]

Thank you!

[@averyzeiler9686]

Fantastic video UsefulCharts! It’s clear that you have put a lot of effort into accurately researching and representing the long, long history of Gaza and I learned a lot from this video! I do have to say that some of the more modern history at the end of the video was somewhat rushed over and is missing a couple key points, but overall I really appreciate your work and am hoping for more videos like these in the future!

[@leopard6554]

So this conflict is as old as civilization itself...!!! Thank you for shedding light on this...!!!

[@dorong100]

Prior the establish of Israel all people in the region, jews and arabs was 'palestinians'. The Arabs who lived in the region start call themselves 'palestinians' only on 1964.

[@user-kb1rl5qy1k]

Palestinians is a modern made up name.

[@Fantaclad]

I believe that too but can you link me sources that back up that claim

[@danieltheween]

@@Fantaclad there isnt

[@teacherby]

@@Fantaclad Try finding mention of the Palestine Post, the Palestine Philharmonic Orchestra, or Palestinian sports teams in the 1930's. You will find they are all referring to Jewish organizations. The Arab Muslims of the time identified themselves - by the words of their own leaders - as part of the greater Arab world and not as a separate group due to geographical location.

[@Karimoz]

Thank you, and may God bless you!!!

[@tomeryab]

Please answer two questions: 1. Why did the war start in 1967? 2. Why did Israel not return Gaza Strip to Egypt in that peace process?

[@StamatisAllas]

Because Egypt didn't want it.

[@Svanberg123]

@@StamatisAllas and they also dont want open boarders with Gaza

[@swagatochatterjee7104]

In the peace process Sadat was cornered, because by controlling Sinai Israel would control the other side of the Suez Canal. The offer was to give Sinai back to Egypt, in exchange for peace and recognition of Israel. That made Egypt the first Arab country to accept the existence of Israel. Unlike what others say, its not true that Egypt didn't want it back.

[@Alkes777]

@@swagatochatterjee7104 They didn't want Gaza back.

[@marwaqoura7804]

The war started in 1967because 1)Zionist ideas are all about expanding from the Nile river to the Euphrate river ,that is the original plan and they were provided by the imperialism support to do so weapons and all ..2)Nasser made a grave mistake by having 60% of his army in Yemen for different reasons back then ,which gave a golden oppurtinity for the Zionist Israel to attack and conquer the weakened Egyptian army ..It was a question of why not do that ,not why do that ...

[@hedgingwell7718]

PEOPLE NEED TO SEE THIS!

[@PTNextgen]

Thanks for your incredible all sides of every story video ... I really hope the video you made helps people today to understand the need for peace in Israel and Palestine

[@AlexFogarty-g5h]

Another good video. Being pedantic though, you say that it wasn’t until Roman times that the land was referred to as Palestine. I’ve just finished Herodotus’ Histories, and he definitely calls this region Palestine, several centuries before the time period you mention. Before even the Macedonian period. I’m not an expert on ancient translations or etymology or anything, so maybe this doesn’t contradict your statement after all. Anyway, really appreciate your work generally, thanks a lot and keep it coming!

[@sauronthemighty3985]

The usage didn’t become common until the roman times, as far as I’m aware

[@mauricehalfhide3982]

True.

[@noamnoam16]

Herodutes traveled the coasts of the Mediterranean. And was a Greek. As said in the video, the coast was mostly ruled by the Philistines and the inner body of the land by the Israelites. And Herodouts was a Greek communixating with Greek settlers therefore they probably told him the region is Philistine, hence being refered by him as Philistine. I doubt the word Palestine as we know it today mentioned there.

[@lanre007]

The video has commentary that is rather out of place. Even if we accept the video claim that the modern "Palestinian national identity"" is over a century old ,the fact is that the newly formed identity DID NOT bring with it sovereignty over ANY territory in the region least of all Gaza . The narrative of "Palestinian people" being "victimized" or "colonized" on their own land is therefore unsustainable. Before the British/ league of Nations mandate, sovereignty belonged to the Ottoman empire not to any yet to be formed Palestinian national identity.

[@Aleksamson]

"didn't really have the right to give away any land" ? By that logic Lebanon shouldn't exist. Syria shouldn't exist. Pretty much every country on the planet shouldn't be existing, shouldn't be taken or "given" to anyone. "but it never happened. Instead the two sides went to war" ? One side accepted, they were happy with anything -whatever, just to have a place they could call it home. But it never happened because one side rejected ANY version of a jewish state, no mater how big or small. Two sides went to war? One side started the war ! One side attacked one side defended itself. "living as second class citizens" ? Like 2 million Arabs living in Israel proper as Israeli citizens? Second class citizens like supreme court judges? Or Palestinians in Gaza? Living in a practically sovereign state, ruled and controlled by Hamas. Were they treated as second class citizens by other Palestinians -fellow citizens ? Or is it only in the West Bank?

[@Alex-ck1bw]

Those lands were "given' to the people already inhabiting them not some strangers from Europe

[@Aleksamson]

@@Alex-ck1bw It's just that jews were ALSO the people inhabiting those lands - since forever. Small number. Tiny, microscopic number, whatever. And before there was Israel "strangers from Europe" were moving there in large numbers for decades. It's called migration. Which you don't mind I presume, when strangers are moving to Europe, illegally. The point is: It's not as if the land was taken from one group and given to the other -total stranger. That's distorted -false narrative. The larger group was given most of the land. Smaller group was given a tiny patch of desert, swamp, no oil. They accepted anything, they were happy just to have a country. The other group rejected. Not b/c the land was given to some strangers from another continent. They rejected the existence of ANY jewish state. That was the problem and still is to this day.

[@Quantumwolf45]

Bingo

[@Quantumwolf45]

@@Alex-ck1bw You're not making any sense, kiddo.

[@elizondorj]

Thnak you for this very interesting video and I agree with your personal opinion: Never again, for anyone, anywhere. Cheers

[@ronbarak]

A minor detail: in several points of the video, the narrator mentions that important archaeological/cultural/religious sites were bombed by Israel. What the Narrator didn't mention is that these sites were used by Gazan organizations as military sites from which they bombed Israel and fought the IDF.

[@tamaramousley8597]

Thanks for pointing that out! This site is No as unbiased as they profess. The Jews did buy land from the Turks.

[@tamaramousley8597]

Also why didn’t they talk about all the Jews that were enslaved and murdered by the Arabs?

[@tamaramousley8597]

What about the Two Jewish temples that were destroyed and that’s where the Arabs built their Mosque on. It was a Jewish holy site. The Arabs holy site is Mecca and Medema, they never cared about Jerusalem until the Jews had it. In the Quran it says the Land of Israel belongs to the Jewish people..

[@yelv]

@@tamaramousley8597 This is a video about Gaza, not Jerusalem. There is another video about Jerusalem on this channel. However, the Dome of the Rock is built around the Foundation Stone where Muhammad ascended during the Isra in chapter 17 of the Quran. This was 550 years after the second temple was destroyed, the Muslims had no hand in destroying it.

[@0106johnny]

​@@tamaramousley8597The second temple had been destroyed for more than 500 years when the first Muslim entered Jerusalem

[@aealaeddin]

I am Palestinian and I am grateful for your work and all the things you have taught me but it pains me to think you'd prefer Jewish people To live in an ethnostate rather than in one state with all the residents of the land protected against persecution and violence through enshrined law in a constitution that acknowledges global and historic antisemitism while also acknowledging the pain the inhabitants of that land experienced in the name of Zionist colonialism (I know Zionism is not Jewdism though Zionists love to claim to represent all Jewish people). I can't imagine my home ever being "solved" through endless ethnocentric statehood or even separation. Borders are inherently racist and a two-state "solution" will only maintain the nationalistic divide. My father's family are 1948 refugees from Ramleh and I am from Bethlehem where my mom's family is from. It is a heartbreaking thought that I, because I am the wrong religion and identity, will never be able to live in the home of my father's family for at least 200 years before 1948. I don't know if you'll read this or care but as a voice I respect and look to for historical truth, I hope you can see why we have to advocate for one state together because Christian Zionists only want us at each other's throats. Much love to you

[@Svanberg123]

He didnt say he wanted an ethnostate, he said Israel needs to exist as à home to jews. That doesn’t exclude arabs, and many arabs live in Israel today.

[@aealaeddin]

@@Svanberg123 They live as second class citizens. Its my home I know what life is like there. It's an ethnostate. De facto and de jure

[@Svanberg123]

@@aealaeddin it’s not an ethnostate de facto nor de jure since arabs have full citzenship in Israel, but Bethlehem isn’t part of Israel.

[@dmenace9288]

This is clear.. but does Ham really really want to know. Thx for the effort.

[@fdsmith905]

The Caananites and Israelites are not the same peoples, religiously, ethnically, or genetically. This is a major flaw and piece of misinformation.

[@LiranBarsisa]

Multiple things: 1. 3:57 , 21:19 IDF entered Gaza because of Gazans&Hamas, and structures were destroyed because of Hamas tactics. Not because of IDF. There is no magical button to just kill terrorists and leave anything else intact. 2. 25:40 Gazans didn't consider themselves as "Palestinians" by nationality. They were a mix of multiple nations, as was even admitted on the video. Nothing is shared between them, and they never tried to have a country of their own. The name was for all people who lived there. And the word "Palestine" simply meant "land of Israel". 3. 27:27 Britain actually kept its promise to have an Arab state from Palestine : Jordan, Lebanon and Syria. Arabs attacked Jews because of having a state of their own. 4. 29:00 The state of Israel was re-established despite the persecution. Not thanks to it... 5. 30:31 "Tensions between Palestinians and Jew" - They were called "Arabs". Not "Palestinians". As was already said before. Jews were Palestinians too. They also didn't want a state because they rejected all offers, including the Peel commission in 1936 which you've missed here. It was never about territory or about having a state. It was about rejecting Jews having one, even for a tiny region presented in the Peel commission. 6. 31:22 "Instead the 2 sides went to war". Only Arabs attacked. Both within the land and outside. Multiple Arab countries. Arabs had yet again a chance of a state, and rejected it and preferred war instead. 7. 31:29 The Nakba is about the loss in the war by the Arabs, that Arabs have started. Yet again, not "Palestinians". They weren't "forced out of their homes". It's the result of war. Many left on their own, with the promise by Arab countries to get back after the war is over. 8. 31:50 The Palestinian-Arabs stayed in refugees state because of the UN, giving them the most special definition of refugees (and organization & funding for it), making them forever stay in this situation, including their descendants. 9. 32:14 Yet here another example of showing there were no "Palestinians" that wanted a state, because they didn't try to have one under Egypt&Jordan rule. Not even in Gaza that this video said that started to have nationality idea long before that. 10. 33:18 There were no illegal settlements by Israel. The "west bank" was called this way by Jordan, which the video even said that it illegally occupied this region, which always was called "Judea&Samaria". Calling it with the occupation name of "west bank" is the same as saying "Palestine" instead of "land of Israel". Erasing history. Israel liberated this region from Jordan after a defensive war, that this video even admits about, thus it could do whatever it wishes with this territory, which is legal under international law. During Jordanian rule, the local Arabs didn't revolt about their rule, so it shows it has nothing to do with anything "illegal". 11. 33:45 Fatah was not about to have a state and peace with Israel. It was not trying to stop the Intifada. The peace talks were just part of a strategy. Arafat showed behind the scenes what he really thinks about the idea. Fatah just wants to destroy Israel in a slower way with steps, and Hamas want to do it right away with force. 12. 34:00 Israel wasn't becoming more and more right-wing. It changed a lot. Also it wasn't becoming expansionist, as the borders haven't changed. Oslo accords were kept. 13. 34:40 How can the IDF be wrong if it was pushed into the war? Israel didn't control Gaza. It left it completely on 2005. What's wrong in defending and trying to get the hostages back? What is the secret weapon you know of that avoids killing civilians completely? Why are your numbers based on Hamas that is said on the video to be wrong? It's also wrong to say that millions are starving. Even the UN rejected it recently. 14. 35:00 How is Israel related to Palestinians being second state citizens? They are not citizens at all. They have their own ID of PA authority... They don't even accept Israel as a country, let alone wanting to be citizens. They weren't second state citizens at all. 15. 35:50 It's actually people who were very much for peace that were under attack by Hamas and Gazans, and according to the Palestinians polls themselves, the majority supports Hamas. So the change can't come from the west or Israel. It has to come from Gazans. First step is education that leads to peace and not to destruction and death, same thing as was done to Nazi Germany. That's why "never again" should remind about it.

[@healthy3074]

Bravo. Col haKavod. Yesher co’ach. Hazak u’baruch. You nailed every point he failed on historically and morally.

[@zagoury16]

he also forgot to mention that the pre Zionist jews were massacred for centuries by their Neighbours its documented since the 15th century actively diminishing the jewish population until the birth of secular Zionism and the rebirth of Israel.

[@mkks4559]

1. The IDF does have that ability. In fact, everyone has that ability, it's called "not destroying civilian structures and heritage sites using bombs". Don't normalize or excuse killing civilians. 2. ??? A mix of nations can become 1 nation. 3. (I admit the attacks were excessive.) They didn't want another land to be split apart like almost every country Britian ruled. 5. Palestine had all sorts of ethnicities and religions in it as said in the video. They didn't want to give up their land. 6. (Again, I admit it was an excessive response.) They didn't want to stay silent when their lands were given out. Keep in mind that Britian was selling lands that other people were living on and owned. 7. No, it's about *Palestinians* being kicked out of their homes. 8. So what? Yes, they are refugees that need help. And yes, they deserve a UN organization that helps them. 9. Redundant. (The last sentence is unclear.) 10. Denying the name of Palestine is erasing history and identity. It's not legal under international law to build settlements in the area designated by the UN to be independent, is it? 11. There's no denying that people want to return to the homes they were kicked out of. You say Fatah doesn't want peace but at the same time say it is peaceful. Either elaborate or don't contradict yourself. 12. It's becoming more expansionist. I'm sure it will be clearer a few sentences later. 13. Yesterday, 5 hostages died because of the smoke from IDF bombs. Rescued hostages admitted that they were afraid from IDF bombs more than anything. Escaped hostages were killed by IDF soldiers because they didn't recognize them at first. Meanwhile, temporary deals rescued hostages safely. And no, the IDF didn't leave. In fact, that was the reason hostages were (unfortunately) kidnapped in the first place. They would've been returned if the IDF fully left. It's not a war when the civilians are the targets. There are many "magical" weapons that don't kill them including sniper rifles, not bombs, and peace deals that every single person agreed to except a certain prime minister. However, I agree the numbers in the video were wrong. The 40,000 deaths aren't the real number. It's an underestimate because it's hard to count actual deaths when you can't find full corpses (they try and count them by estimating each 70 KG of human flesh = 1 person). Nowadays, *experts* have estimated the deaths to be between 150,000 to twice that. By the way, the IDF trusts death counts that Palestinians say. 14. They are treated worse in every way. Objectively. 15. Polls that were done years ago. The rest is true statements in wrong context. Yes, peace is good, but they aren't the ones that should learn to accept it. Overall, this entire comment is racist. Never again to every single group of people on Earth. Never again to every single land on Earth, especially if it has welcomed all sorts of people from various backgrounds across its history, and didn't deny anyone from living in it peacefully.