How to really develop relative pitch! Why are intervals exercises ineffective?

[@christophebopp5915]

I have a background in classical music. I stumbled upon the "use your ear" method. I was overwhelmed. I had felt for a long time that I was perceiving music differently from what I was taught in conservatories. This method was what I had been looking for for so long in order to progress. It's been 2 weeks since I started with the method and the progress is immediate if you work 15-30 minutes a day. Today I have been able to do melodic dictation with intervals of more than an octave that I never thought I would be able to do despite my many years of study.

[@matteocomellini]

Stuck and frustrated at hearing jazz harmonies for years. Although I have become quite proficient at writing down jazz solos off the records, I am still having a hard time with chord changes. I am just at UNIT 2 of this course and believe it or not my ears are really opening up! I believe it is the best course you can find on this topic. Money well spent. Thank you Leonardo!!!

[@UseYourEar]

Thank you Matteo.

[@tomclaeren169]

Are you still using the course?

[@davidcalderisi]

Following this course for just a couple of weeks I've learned more about melodic/harmonic dynamics and practice than I've encountered anywhere else. Unlike many presentations that I've seen Leonardo presents the key ideas clearly and invites, and responds promptly (!!!) to questions that arise. Most highly recommended.

[@Troy1g]

Interval training has helped me. I think they very important to learn their sound but in context. Example a perfect forth in. A chord would the fifth degree and the root note. Don’t give up on interval training.

[@UseYourEar]

There is some confusion here. If you are training in context, that's not interval ear training. By definition interval ear training has no context, like explained in this video and like it's done in most ear training apps. A perfect fourth doesn't necessarily mean it's 5th and root note, it can be also root note and fourth. My advice is to prioritize other types of training instead of interval exercises because they can seriously hinder progress, especially for beginner and intermediate students. I explain everything more in depth in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5PVnpWPlq6cmrs

[@emmanuelmartignoni4568]

The course is very well structured. Although there are many elements related to the so-called contextual or functional training that were familiar to me, these are presented so well that it was worth reviewing them. In addition, although the concepts are introduced progressively, they are approached in an integrated way (from the beginning you work together in harmony and melody, although you may not realize it). What was new for me is the idea of ​​triad colors and how they related to keys colors: I am just doing the previous practices and a new dimension has already been added to my perception of the notes of a chord. I recommend it to anyone interested in music that has half an hour a day to devote to learning.

[@whyflyguy007]

I've done ear training using an app called Toned Ear - I'm sure what this video offers works .. but don't write off interval training without giving it a try esp with the range of training it offers. I have done it for at least 20 minutes 2-3 times a week and seen huge improvements. These training activities include intervals, Chords, Scales, Chord progressions, Perfect pitch etc.. No one else can do the 'hard work' for you and give it too you in an 'easy to do' one time payment package without you wasting time, making mistakes, or giving you a quick path.. anything and everything you try that is hard, will help in some way - just keep trying different things, be curious and don't give up...

[@UseYourEar]

Hi, thank you for your comment. Actually, I've tried intervals for 10 years and they've never worked even a little bit. That's very very common as you can see here www.useyourear.com/testimonials anyway you find multiple videos on this channel that explain very well why and how intervals don't work, there are tons of scientific researches showing that.

[@JonathanOvnat]

Toned Ear also has exercises that are very related to what Use Your Ear teaches. "Scale degrees", "Melodic dictation" and "Chord progressions". The "Perfect Pitch" one can also be modified to fit a tonal frame concept.

[@nadeeshbhardwaj7966]

You teaching style is marvelous 🔥🔥

[@UseYourEar]

Thank you

[@君子ロベルト]

I will draw inspiration from your approach for training on microtonal relative pitch. I felt tempted to train on intervals but your approach of learning pitches in the context of accompaniment makes much more sense. Thank you!

[@UseYourEar]

Thanks. Microtonal relative pitch is quite uncommon here in the western world.

[@君子ロベルト]

@@UseYourEar Yeah, but I just wrote my first two microtonal songs on standard Ukulele with a few small frets added. I definitely want to nail the quater notes, they actually sometimes sound more harmonious, relaxed and interesting than the standard 12edo notes. And this is the point: I need to learn how they feel in context. Your approach already started to improve my intonation. And soon I will have instruments with the adjustable microtonal fretboards from Tolgahan Cogulo's new company. And you know, he has performed some beautiful songs together with Maddie Ashman, it doesn't feel that alien but it is microtonal. That kind of microtonality is so appealing! Well, and here we are talking about just two or three additional notes beyond our familiar scales for which we need to learn the relative pitch.

[@UseYourEar]

@@君子ロベルト That sounds interesting!

[@gandalf29]

This is what I have been needing. I had an intuition that grinding scales and doing DO-RE-MI's was almost useless.

[@bibergans7994]

Singing Do-Re-Mi (relative solmisation) is actually one of the most effective methods to internalize what is described in the video - the "color" of each note relative to the tonic (Do)!

[@tetraveda1574]

The Use Your Ear course has been a complete game-changer for me! In the past I have been using the standard interval recognition approach to my ear training, and didn't see any noticeable improvement over the course of months, which I am sure nearly every musician can relate. But this course was revolutionary for me, although I'm still a beginner, I'm noticing more improvement over less time. The course is unique in the sense that it uses scientific studies as the foundation for the lesson plans/approaches. This course is next to none! Thanks Leonardo!

[@UseYourEar]

Thank you Isaiah, I'm glad you found the course "revolutionary".😊

[@Born2RiffRock]

Save your money you couldn't learn it anyways.

[@themolom]

As much as I am very intrigued by this, there's no way I could commit to 480 EUROS for a product I know nothing about from a practical sense. Reached out to the owner and they did nothing except send me the promo vid, which was just a group of testimonials talking about the "hidden" techniques that have been "unlocked", all just buzzwords. You should consider releasing the first lesson for free to give people an understanding of what it is that is on offer x

[@UseYourEar]

Hi @Mo oM , you can find a thorough explanation of the entire program included in the course in the "take an in-depth look..." video included on this page www.useyourear.com/use-your-ear-relative-pitch-video-course and there is more than 1 hour of youtube video tutorials that explains some of the concepts included in our method. We politely replied to your email request, providing you the info that you asked for, so I don't really understand what's wrong with that. That being said if you still have doubts I think is far better to reply to our email asking your questions directly to us instead than writing a random comment on youtube complaining about our reply. Lastly, your attitude doesn't seem to be very friendly and I just wanna clarify that we like to keep a friendly conversation in our community. If you don't have sufficient proofs to evaluate whether or not the course would be valuable to you, then consider the fact that none is forcing you to buy it, so take the time, wait for us to upload new content (which takes time and energy for us to create) and make your decision when you feel ready. Thanks

[@themolom]

​@@UseYourEar This link is the same as the one you sent me, a lot of buzzwords but just not practicalities of what I would be doing in the course and no money back guarantee or similar; it's an incredible amount of money for musicians to part with during a trying time for many during this pandemic, so I have a right to ask what it is I would be getting. I'm not sure what's unfriendly about what I said? The only 'attitude' I see is in your reply back to me. I’m not suggesting making any new content, just releasing the first exercise for free, adding a “here’s what else you would learn in my course” and linking people to buy your course if they find it useful. It’s quite a simple marketing technique and something I think you would see great benefits from given the price of the course.

[@UseYourEar]

We politely replied to your email and if you have other questions to ask us, it would be more appropriate to reply back to our email. It doesn't make any sense to complain about some nonsense stuff on this comment section, when you can easily get your answer replied via email. We already explained you that we're currently not showing any particular exercise included in the method because that could be rather too easy or too difficult for different students. Our course consists in a step-by-step approach and there isn't an exercise that fits all needs and situations, you need to practice the exercises that are right for your current level of skills in the different areas of relative pitch. Since it's impossible to determine your current level of skills without having an appropriate 1 on 1 meeting we are not going to show you a random exercise that we're not sure it's appropriate to your needs. If you have difficulties understanding this basic fact, then you're not understanding the complexity of the topic and the value that our course is providing our students, which is undeniable, as you can see from the multiple testimonials available on our website.

[@saadmehdibennani9794]

Bro, sorry if this false, but your comments on the video really don’t look legit for the most part

[@swild4058]

This method is unique in my experience, and has been more effective for me than any other way of training. It is helping me fix some of the big gaps left by previous training that had too much emphasis on reading notation and instrumental technique. The author of the method has developed some interesting and very practical exercises that really work.

[@Text.__.]

How was it working out until now? Also, is it possible to download the lessons?

[@1oolabob]

This is excellent educational content. No one can learn 1000 things at the same time, but learning that musical intervals are basically like just 7 colors makes it approachable. I mean, by third grade I knew that a rainbow has 7 colors.

[@UseYourEar]

Thanks for you reply. I should clarify that I generally discourage people to think of 'intervals' as being 'the colors'. It's much much better to think of each individual note or chord as assuming a specific color. I think the problem with using the term 'intervals' is that most students keep thinking at how one note relates to another note. This is far from an optimal cognitive process, we should think at how a note or chord feels inside the given harmonic context (tonality/key) it's included in. It might seem a small difference but it vastly shifts your focus and allows you to process music in a much more effective, easy and intuitive way.

[@TotalDec]

I was better with relative pitch when I started playing guitar than I am 20 years later using a DAW. It's key to learn relative pitch without changing key.

[@UseYourEar]

Hi, thanks for your comment. I'm sorry but I have to disagree on your point 'It's key to learn relative pitch without changing key.'. That's not true. I wouldn't even encourage you to do that. Surely, this is not what we suggest our students they should do. Thanks

[@gbeziuk]

I was arguing on 11:45 for years with traditionally-minded teachers. It's nice to finally receive some support here =)

[@UseYourEar]

Hi Grigory, thank you for your comment. I can't tell you how deeply I understand what you mean! 🙏

[@olakolade6656]

You have explained this excellently well! You merit a LOT more subscribers.

[@UseYourEar]

Thank you very much, I appreciate it!

[@aboastingunicorn8648]

Hello Leonardo! I am intrigued by your method and the expanation makes a lot of sense. 😃👏 Could you show a specific exercise to demonstrate the efficiency of the method?

[@UseYourEar]

Hi, thank you for your interest. In the future I will, but just an exercise on its own can't do a miracle. If you're seriously interested you can take a look at our course which includes the whole methodology and helps you to work on the many important sub-skills in ear training (tonic recognition, chords recognition, melodic recognition, short-term musical memory, etc.) in the right step-by-step order. You can find more info here www.useyourear.com/courses Thanks

[@augustinechinnappanmuthria7042]

Super super super lovely tips Augustine violinist

[@UseYourEar]

Thank you very much

[@emilythompson842]

I just finished the second month lessons. I am so happy I found Use Your Ear. The course is very well structured. The lessons are clearly explained and fun to do. It just makes so much sense to learn this way, rather than the interval approach I learned in school.

[@diretoaospontos-victorbarb7377]

Hi Emily, 4 months later, how is your ear? I really wanna develop a good relative pitch, and I want to now the best way to do it

[@fabriziodutto7508]

Thank you for your explanation, for me it is clear, but maybe you should consider playing alternately the first chord and the following ones, for people to understand what you're telling them, since when, foe example, @14:09 people has already forgotten the sound of the first chord you played @13:25, so I think it will not be so immediate your assertion "It's a step and a half below the first degree", people is obviously asking "what first degree?"... Also adding "if compared to the first chord we've listened", if not much help, because they don't remember it anymore. Too much talk/time passed between the two chords. :-) Anyway thank you for sharing your very interesting theory.

[@UseYourEar]

Hi Fabrizio, thanks for your comment!

[@kevinwilson5452]

I have been taking the UseYourEar course for a little over a month now, and I have already seen significant improvements in my ability to hear musically. I have tried ear training in the past with the interval method and I have found leonardo's method to be much better. I practiced learning intervals for years on and off. I definitely got better at identifying intervals when the notes fell in certain ranges (close to the songs I was using to remember the interval) but I was never able to transfer my interval training to any other musical context. I am starting to see some progress in this regard through this course. I have been taking singing lessons for over 6 months and I think I have improved at least as much since I started the UseYourEar course as I did in the previous 5 months. My inability to hear when I was out of tune was really holding me back, and I have gotten much better at that through this course. I am definitely not where I want to be yet, but I am hopeful that this method will help me get there in the near future. If you feel like your musical ear is holding you back as a musician, then I highly recommend checking out this course!

[@marekliban7366]

Hello Kevin, how are you now? Have you been practising consistently? What are the effects?

[@trevorwesterdahl6245]

Production quality was excellent. Unfortunately not a single example of the teaching method itself. After watching, I have no idea of what you do teach, just what you don’t teach. Also, went to your website and I had to find the signup link in the middle of the web page. Why no link on the main navigation bar? Lastly, $40 euros a month for twelve months is expensive. Could be worth it, but I go back the problem of no examples of actual method/techniques used. If you aren’t willing to share first few lessons, I’m not willing to signup.

[@UseYourEar]

Hi Trevor, thank you for your comment. We're working in order to get more free content out on youtube so stay subscribed and you'll get more insights about the method and everything related to ear training and human's musical perception.

[@trevorwesterdahl6245]

Use Your Ear Respect those that reply. I’ve tried various versions. Hard to stop me from being skeptical. Always open.

[@lebarbosa9778]

Do every exercise you find on youtube about intervals but stay in key. Thats it

[@UseYourEar]

@@lebarbosa9778 Not really, it's much more complex. Stay tuned for the videos that are next to come.

[@srigato]

Great !! It is a pity not possibile Italian Only english

[@dopaminecloud]

Based on the ideas in this video, I'd assume that the exercises are instead structured on recognizing scale degrees. Identifying a single chord is done purely by its harmonic color, but identifying successive chords can be assisted tremendously by recognizing their scale degrees. When I transcribe music, I mostly do this subconsciously and I'm looking to make it more of a true understanding of what I'm hearing, but I think I can figure it out alone. I'd heavily recommend transcribing music by ear rather than any specific exercise (they can still be done as another add-on). It provides value far beyond ear training and anyone can do it. Not to mention it's totally free and even enjoyable as you can get your own covers of your favorite music out of it. I started doing it with 0 musical training and though rough going at first, it's very possible to start from scratch with it.

[@UseYourEar]

Hi, I overall agree with what you are saying here. But the problem is that transcribing songs by ear doesn't really solves the problems in itself. It's the way you do it that really matters, the thought process you adopt, etc. Most musicians rely mostly an instrument to recognize songs by ear; adopting a so called trial & error approach. Which renders this way of practicing totally ineffective. We have thousands of students who fell into this mistake. Moreover you are not taking into account, that you were able to develop these skills because you had the foundational skills in place (i.e. pitch matching, singing the scale, establishing a tonality in your head, etc.). Truth is, most people still have a lack in these foundational areas and can't develop the abilities you mentioned at all, if they don't solve these issues. So overall, you are saying the correct thing, but you are missing the fact that there is a lot more behind how to develop ear training skills, it's really much more complex than that when you really look into it. I wouldn't advise anyone to learn ear training by themselves, if they already tried and it didn't work for them. For the same reason I wouldn't advise anyone to learn a new language by scratch without being followed by a teacher. I don't get why getting proper guidance in ear training seems to be an outrageous idea. I think most people would agree, that it's definitely much more complex to develop "musicality" than learning a new language (and rightly so) so better to get proper help in doing that.

[@CrunchiChicken]

​@UseYourEar true but ppl don't wanna spend hundreds of dollars on it either. The basic knowledge of being able to recognize pitch is easy to assess for most. Being able to transcribe while learning the chord numbers in a scale can be really effective in being able to learn songs by ear. Most people just want to do that and not have to pay all this money for a skill they don't even want to monetize

[@connorlarkinbass]

While I agree with you that developing relative pitch is important...I think it is very foolish to say that chord recognition and interval training is "useless." As a bassist who has been playing, recording and gigging for 20 years (on top of also owning a music school) I can say with confidence that being able to recognize chords and intervals has been one of the most helpful things i've ever learned (in addition to relative pitch) bottom line...people need to stop looking for short cuts and just DO THE WORK!

[@dagjomar]

You say shortcuts as if it is a bad thing 😂 If there actually exist a shortcut, everyone should use it. I think what you mean is if people keep searching for a shortcut that does not exist. I don’t know if this alternative method is a dead end or not, but neither do you. But I agree with you that being able to recognize an interval can be very helpul.

[@connorlarkinbass]

I don't even know what you're talking about dude haha! thanks!?...sorry!?...okay...

[@dagjomar]

@@connorlarkinbass 🤣👍

[@UseYourEar]

Hi Connor, thanks for your comment. Well, there are hundreds (probably even thousands) of students that can tell you that you are wrong. I'm sick of explaning the same thing over and over, there are plenty of videos on this channel where I clearly explain why and how interval based ear training is ineffective, with real scientific evidence to support that. Like in this video for example kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJPGoZeYlJeZm6s Moreover, there are videos where I also explain how in some rare cases people are able to develop ear training skills even though they are practicing intervals. But the fact that you are practicing intervals, doesn't mean that intervals alone are responsible for your progress. Cause you as every other musician out there are practicing and doing many other music activities and tasks that are actually more directly related to the developement of ear training skills than interval exercises. Believe me or not! That said, as said in other videos on this channel, intervals can be deemed 'useful' (much less than what you think) only for very advanced students that want to tackle atonal contexts, or other very advanced contexts. For everything else they are not only useless but literally counterproductive! They hinder the ability of students to progress, especially for beginner students, which is where most people start at. Lastly, our course is rated 4.4/5 on trustpilot, we have thousands of happy students, so far our method has shown to provide outstanding results and we have videos that show the improvement of our students in different tasks (they are on our website and on this channel too). All of the above while we are clearly telling our students to avoid thinking about intervals. I guess either me or you is wrong, I'll let people who are reading this evaluate whether that is me or you.

[@connorlarkinbass]

@@UseYourEar all I can do is speak from experience, and in my experience ignorance is always a bad thing. Relative pitch, chord recognition and interval recognition are all valuable. Saying that identifying chords and intervals in isolation is a “waste of time” is an ignorance…plain and simple. I know this from experience. I have not seen or read any creditable recourses that say other wise. Relative pitch is very helpful so if that’s what you’re teaching I’m sure you have a lot of happy students. You obviously know what you’re talking about when it comes to that subject. I’m simply trying to point out that if you want to be a good musician you should really open your mind up to all different kinds of art, music and concepts. Music is a life long process, and we’ll never be done. It’s not about finding one methodology, it’s all about learning and understanding. I don’t think a person can do that if they get in the habit of dismissing things.

[@hearpalhere]

This is really fascinating information. Thank you for such a detailed and clear explanation!

[@UseYourEar]

Thanks!

[@paucosmos9050]

I took the seminar presentation to cure my frustration for my really bad ears... And despite the suggestion of not get discouraged I did really fast. I also got overwhelmed of the many new terms and ideas of musical perception. I still want to get into the program but it feels that I will again spend a lot of time on something that will make me feel musically useless. Promising results out of tons of patience, repetition and emotional investments on a stagnation context. It's a bit hard you know, trying for years...

[@UseYourEar]

Hi Pau, we understand that. I think that there is plenty of evidence that our course really works, no matter your current level. You can check it out here www.useyourear.com/testimonials Plus I think that by watching our free training, youtube content, etc. you can easily understand why it works and how it's different from everything else you've likely tried out in the past. We don't promise results out of tons of patience, repetition, etc. thanks to our course people see consistent gradual progress week by week. These skills are not quick to develop, the learning process still takes time (as any other complex skill), so patience and persistence is always necessary (as with any difficult thing you wanna accomplish in life). But our course will help you see consistent progress and that will drive your motivation. Hope that helps. Thanks

[@olivsteelpan]

essayez la methode! ça vaut le coup et c'est bien construit. TOP!

[@808mike]

Those last LA LAs were amazing 😢

[@Gman224]

watching this made me more confused than i was before watching

[@DylanOndine]

This is fantastic! Thank you! ❤

[@UseYourEar]

Thank you so much! Check out our free workshop if you haven't yet.

[@mpero3]

Wow! Thank you thank you thank you! I am overjoyed: this information is what I've been looking for for nearly 50 years! You've helped me connect all the theory & harmony knowledge in my head so I can play chords and improvise to my heart's content. Thank you so much for connecting the dots. It's like fireworks going off in my head! 10 stars!!

[@UseYourEar]

Thank you a lot! We're glad this is so helpful to you. We suggest you checkout the other videos on our channel, there are many that could be even more helpful to you than this one. Lastly, you might be interested in our courses www.useyourear.com/courses Hope this helps.

[@StefanGBucher]

15 minutes I'll never get back. It's just a pitch for the course. Super frustrated by this video.

[@UseYourEar]

Not a sales pitch, just an informative video where I introduce the fundamental concepts behind our method. That concept alone can help you avoid years of wasted time on ineffective ear training practices. Nevertheless, it seems like either you didn't care about saving time and effort or you didn't get the concept.

[@squib9682]

im sorry.. WHAT? im going to have to watch this a few more times

[@philipjones7372]

Really well explained. Thanks 👍🏼👍🏼😊

[@UseYourEar]

You're welcome!

[@yeesenchai]

Makes sense.

[@ethanmonteroza3981]

i love this methodology, feel free to correct me if i'm wrong but in a simpilar way it's like recongnizing the colour of the chords contained within a note rather than the note on it's own. meaning that hearing a chord you can distinguish it's the five from the colour of the tone and by hearing a note then assigning it a chord derived from the key which fits with whichever note you play.

[@UseYourEar]

Hi Ethan, thanks for your comment. Unfortunately, I can't understand the concept you shared in the comment. From what I can understand, there's for sure some misinterpretation going on.

[@ethanmonteroza3981]

sorry, what i mean is that you train your ear to recongnize notes based on the tension or resolution you hear (aka the color) and training your ears and brain to recongnize these sounds quickly. hope that makes more sense

[@UseYourEar]

@@ethanmonteroza3981 Yeah it does. Thanks

[@christinamilioni6325]

Excellent explanation!! Great content!

[@UseYourEar]

Thank you. If you want you can subscribe to our channel and also to our newsletter from this page www.useyourear.com/courses

[@osaze2708]

It’s just called the movable do method and it’s good for identifying melodies or bass lines but terrible at identifying chords. If you want a good ear you need to work on both.

[@UseYourEar]

Hi Bogas, the Use Your Ear method does exactly what you're suggesting. It guides you through developing both melodic and harmonic ear simultaneously following a gradual step-by-step approach that allows students to put less time into practicing ear training but getting much more results out of it. Movable DO is not a method, it is just a system for naming notes, it doesn't tell you what to practice, when to practice it, how to practice it and what results to expect from it. So as you were saying movable DO has a lot of limitations, whereas the Use Your Ear method does all of these things.

[@osaze2708]

@@UseYourEar my point is that learning intervals is essential for having a good ear

[@UseYourEar]

@@osaze2708 Hi Bogas, then I really encourage you to watch this other video that shows the scientific evidence behind the fact that the interval method is based on a totally wrong principle kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJPGoZeYlJeZm6s

[@UseYourEar]

If you're concerned about chords, intervals are even more useless there. You can understand why by watching this other video kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIjChZ99l9Z2pNk

[@osaze2708]

@@UseYourEar I respect your opinion, but based on my experience i had a really bad time trying to figure out even simple 7th chords using only scale degrees, but when i started practicing intervals I started hearing the intervals inside of the chords rather than just the base note and the melody note and transcribing was much easier and faster

[@danyarmy9015]

Hi!! Very good content, I hope you continue uploading. And I have a question, are the minor key colors different from the major key colors? Because I don't know if I would be able to recognize chord progressions on minor keys if I just practice with major keys. Do I have to practice both of them separately or by practicing just one I can recognize chords on both of them?

[@UseYourEar]

Hi Dany, thank you for your comment. I suggest to practice also on the minor key separately, if you wanna know more about the step-by-step series of exercises I suggest students to follow, you can take a look at my video-course www.useyourear.com/courses

[@havenprice]

Idk man maybe its cause this is not the training video but it seems as though being also to identify the colour is a step but not the end all, just an additional facet that can help

[@UseYourEar]

It's not an additional facet, it's the starting point. If you don't have that, there is no point in working on developing anything else. After you have that skill then you can build on top of it. But that skill alone will put you on a totally another level, as it allows to recognize most melodies/chords very quickly. Hope that's clearer.

[@jazznotes3802]

i didn't even know people practiced intervals in the crazy way described in this video... Most people learn intervals in relation to the root note, e.g: root Major 3rd higher would also be a Major 3rd in relation to the root descending. (sounding the same, just a octave lower) This is how most would learn it today, "in relation to the root of the chord of the moment."

[@UseYourEar]

I'm sorry but that's totally not true. It's clear that most apps, books, or whatever else out there ask people to recognize isolated intervals without the presence of any chords or any other reference whatsoever. That's also how Rick Beato explains to practice them, who is really and only into intervals and has even created an interval based ear training app. So I just don't think you're right, very few people practice intervals as you're describing and for sure that's the first time I've heard of people practicing intervals in that way.

[@flgangcage6313]

In the song example you used earlier. Was that an actual vocal melody? Or was that person just singing out the notes as if it was an instrument. I’m confused because the vocal is not actually saying any words

[@jnom8170]

If you've tried the interval method and haven't got the results you wanted, you should try his method. My experience has been very positive - he is very committed to his students succeeding.

[@ctlcimagecastro9334]

I'm a novice, I still don't understand how can I internalize the sounds of the 7 harmonic functions that are contained in a key

[@UseYourEar]

Hi you can find a detailed step-by-step path on how to properly do that in our video-course. More info here www.useyourear.com/use-your-ear-relative-pitch-video-course

[@juanaguirre3702]

Don’t worry. It takes time and a lot of paying attention. It really helps to learns simple songs or melodies that you can remember Like how the Star Wars theme has a really clear fifth and octave in it. Also Jaws theme is a minor second. Over time it’ll become more and more clear but you have to intentionally notice the relationship between the notes

[@UseYourEar]

@@juanaguirre3702 Hi Juan, that's not really what I'm suggesting in the video and it's not the best approach. You're implicitly referring to an "intervallic way of thinking". Thinking of intervals creates many issues as you can guess by watching this and other videos on this channel where I explain the problem in depth.

[@juanaguirre3702]

@@UseYourEar it may not be the “best” approach but no novice needs to be spending 480€ on an ear training course. Especially when you can internalize solfege (proven to be effective) by yourself with the instrument you already have. If jimmy page learned to play like he did from listening to records then this kid should be alright.

[@UseYourEar]

@@juanaguirre3702 1) your previous answer doesn’t suggest anything related to solfege. You were suggesting him to adopt the interval approach which is very different and utterly ineffective especially for beginners. By the way solfege is for sure better than intervals but it doesn’t take into account many important aspects that are crucial in musical hearing skills (such as short term musical memory, working on chord progressions, internalizing the tonal sound of chords, etc.). 2) the fact that Jimmy Page developed his musical ear by transcribing songs by ear doesn’t absolutely mean that this activity is going to be helpful for other people, most people approach this activity adopting an ineffective thought process that doesn’t allow them to develop their musical ear. You can see many of our students talking about this issue on our site www.useyourear.com/testimonials I’m going to talk about this specifically in another KZbin video very soon. Indeed most people who adopt this approach end up feeling frustrated without seeing any improvement whatsoever, of course some succeed but those who intuitively adopt the correct thought processes are very few. 3) If in your opinion it’s a bad idea for a novice to spend 480€ in a good ear training course that’s currently helping hundreds of students and it’s exactly made to also help people starting at the very beginning of the learning process, well I think that it’s far worse to follow your random suggestions that clearly show your very superficial understanding of this topic and will only cause a novice to feel frustrated and overwhelmed.

[@jaykenarn6223]

Nice presentation

[@migs1336]

"oh.... ok... we understand each other."

[@clementbenny]

How may I purchase this course . . . .

[@UseYourEar]

you can check it out here www.useyourear.com/use-your-ear-relative-pitch-video-course

[@johannedelmann4783]

755$ la formation !!!😅

[@shenlee2577]

what if in a melody of a song you go from mi to la descending. how would you train that? wouldnt that mess up the number sequence cause mi is 3 and la is usually 6. but if you go from mi to la descending thats a perfect fifth, so actually the interval do so do

[@UseYourEar]

Hi Shen, thanks for your comment. I'm not sure I understood it correctly. This video is explaining why you shouldn't think in intervals terms. So "descending" or "ascending" the sound from MI to LA doesn't change. They always are the 3rd and 6th degree of the scale and they assume a specific sonic sensation within the key. Which doesn't change, no matter in which order you play those 2 notes.

[@cdt9055]

Okay u talk about recognizing 7 colours of key as being crucial for developing relative pitch but what if i use different scales (with 9 notes for example) or no key?

[@UseYourEar]

I'd suggest you start out with a simple tonal context such as the major scale, atonal contexts are by definition more complex to understand and you need a very good internalization of the basic tonal contexts at first in order to recognize them. Then the principles explained in this video applies also to those kinds of more complex contexts, but there will be of course many other difficulties to take into account that I can't thoroughly explain with a comment.

[@dagjomar]

I want to see all youtube videos in this accent now

[@UseYourEar]

That was a very bad accent - You have to start somewhere though 🤣

[@AntonyN]

3:12 Don't be that way......(I hope someone gets this)

[@samferrell7757]

As someone who can't sing in tune/pitch and just wants to learn to sing decently this video really confused me. I was going to try traditional ear training with a piano but I guess you're saying that's useless.

[@UseYourEar]

Yes, unfortunately, after helping more than 2000 students with our ear training method, I can say that traditional ear training is mostly useless to develop intonation skills. I encourage you to watch this video where I talk more about developing intonation kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqipf3ubmpWGqck and also these videos where our students share how our ear training method has helped them develop great intonation skills kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWnci4qCnseGlZI kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGHafoF5ZdBqr7s Thanks

[@simonsmith145]

Webinar really annoying because they won't tell you how long but still going after 1h50m. Shame because interesting but just feels manipulative, so I wouldn't sign up to them.

[@UseYourEar]

Hey man, just read in the description of this video, workshop is 3 hr long we also mention it in multiple videos and in the emails we send after you register. You might have missed some details but they are out there, we don't keep those as secrets. I don't think we try to pretend our workshop is not long. Anyway, doesn't feel manipulative for the vast majority of people who attend it.

[@alvodin6197]

When you use language such as "my method is the only way", or "from tone-deaf to", alarm bells ring for some of us ;)

[@UseYourEar]

I'm pretty sure I've never used language such as ""my method is the only way". Regarding ""from tone-deaf to" I wouldn't be hearing bells ringing. It's just a way of saying we are able to help you even if you start from scratch or you think you are "tone-deaf". Who knows??? You might be able to tell which note the bells are ringing at...

[@hubertried19]

I have now watched many of your videos and absolutely agree with you. But can't you make a long story short? Where can I find your product and how much is it?

[@UseYourEar]

Hi Hubert, thanks. You can find everything on this page www.useyourear.com/use-your-ear-relative-pitch-video-course

[@scottspielman8910]

This is fascinating. I'm confused on one thing - in this video you said the 5th is tension, unstable, movement. In this other video kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJPGoZeYlJeZm6s you describe how the 3-5 are the most stable notes other than the 1 since they are part of the tonic triad. I've read elsewhere that the 1 3 5 are the most stable tones in the key. These two statements seem contradictory. How can the 5 be one of the most stable notes while also being tension, unstable, movement? Thanks!

[@UseYourEar]

Hi Scott, thank you for your comment. Well, it's a bit complicated to clarify this in a comment but I'll try to explain it as simple as possible. It really depends on the context surrounding the 5th degree, for example: If the 5th is playing over a tonic chord (1st degree chord), then you'll perceive it as a stable note. Whereas if the 5th degree is playing over the 5th degree chord (or in other situations where the 5th could assume the sensation of the 5th degree chord) then it would be perceived as an unstable sound that asks for resolution on the tonic note (or chord). I bet you understand that there would be more to explain but of course youtube comments are not the best place to talk about ear training. This is a very complex and serious matter indeed, that's why we have an entire course about it. Hope you could check it out on our site www.useyourear.com/courses

[@lapastelapaste1511]

how to find more free course on ear training ?

[@UseYourEar]

Hi, you can learn more about what courses are available here www.useyourear.com

[@lapastelapaste1511]

@@UseYourEar Thank you, is it free ? I am France.

[@evanmontzka7293]

The canned background voices makes the video unwatchable but the information is top notch good job

[@johannedelmann4783]

755$ la formation qui paie ça ?

[@DerJayger]

"Here is a totally new method" Describes relative solmisation techniques used since 500 years.

[@UseYourEar]

Hey, looks like you missed the point. Solmisation is just a very broad idea, not a detailed method like the one I'm talking about (this video is just a short introduction to one of the concepts included in our method). Solmisation has been around for ages, but it doesn't give a clear step-by-step process like ours does. That said, there are many other important differences between ‘solmisation’ and our method, I encourage you to watch this video where I outline the main ones kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaWYaYucrsd_Zposi=Mkz1CrTqd0GyFYjk Also, solmisation doesn’t cover the concept of key’s colors, but our method does. That might seem a small difference but it's not. The 'key's color' concept completely changes the way in which most musicians would practice solmisation. For instance, over time, solmisation has either been blended with interval-based exercises or has been outright replaced by them. This is one of the big issues that render solmisation ineffective in the vast majority of cases (and there are more), a point I elaborate on in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/boG5aoKbaLx4bKssi=OBtFRQCkBHTcOgmN Next time, maybe do a bit more research before jumping in with comments. Our method is science-based and has been followed by thousands of students, proving to be transformative. We are rated 4.5/5 on Trustpilot and you can check out reviews on our website, watch videos showcasing our students' improvement, and better understand how it might benefit you. Here is a link to our website www.useyourear.com/

[@UseYourEar]

Lastly I also encourage you to read some of the comments our students left below this video, they might be enough to understand the value our method provides to them. Thanks

[@musicfatcat]

Just blow my head but I feel useless,it’s just all about feeling

[@2j188]

becoze

[@simonsmith145]

and another comment says it costs 480 euros!

[@UseYourEar]

Our offerings have changed over the years and the price changed based on our offerings too. That said, I don't see anything bad in offering a 480€ service that solves a big problem as efficiently as we are able to do it. If you don't care that much about music and your musical ear, that's fine. Don't buy our course cause our service is not for you.

[@michaelmonterastelli4618]

Wait what

[@TTFMjock]

11:46 or you could just hear minor keys.

[@UseYourEar]

Yes, but that will still throw you off and impede for you to develop an understanding of the tonal framework (if you haven't developed it yet - most students need to develop it when they start).

[@SaxandRelax]

are you canadian? you said spoontaneous lol

[@UseYourEar]

I'm Italian, my accent is getting better but in this video was pretty bad. I'm sorry for it! Thanks

[@amik4433]

@@UseYourEar wow, Italian?? Your accent is Soo good for Italian !!! respect!

[@我長過啤梨]

I spent 10 mins to learn "I have to remember the colours of the 7 notes" = "you have to konw your mom is a women"

[@UseYourEar]

Can't really understand the message, feel free to clarify further.

[@opolo704]

Look up alain benbassat method you can train this for free.

[@UseYourEar]

Alain benbassat's method is nothing like ours. The fact that they share a few similarities, doesn't mean they are equal. Indeed they aren't. We have hundreds of students who come from the method you mentioned and none of them is complaining about our method being the same as Alain's one. Quite the contrary I would say, they are very enthusiastic about our method and find it very helpful.

[@opolo704]

@@UseYourEar I mean you basically preach about identifying notes by their harmonic function in the scale which you can also train for free with the Functional Ear Trainer app just saying. You also talk about how identifying chords is different in your method but don't really mention exactly what is it you change.

[@UseYourEar]

​@@opolo704 even though the final goal is the same, that doesn't mean that the strategies used to get there are the same. Thus, they differ in terms of effectiveness. As you can see from this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaa8k3pmqNd6gNkfeature=shared our students are saying that, not just me. There are a lot of different exercises included in our method that aren't simply even remotely taken into account by those apps. That said, it's not just about the exercises, it's mostly about how you think, about what's the thought process to adopt when you try to accomplish a given ear training task. There are effective thought processes and ineffective ones. Sadly, those apps never give even a remote explanation on what's the thought process to adopt and why you should adopt it. Our course instead is full of in depth explanations about the exact thought process to adopt for every exercise, and every ear training task in general. I think you can get an idea on how the training you get from our method is way deeper and more effective than those apps. This is without mentioning that most students start at a level where functional ear training exercises are too difficult for them, whereas our method starts from the most basic skill imaginable and makes sure that you practice each exercise only when you are ready for it. This guarantees a steady progress, which is something those apps don't guarantee.

[@richardguittar4908]

Well, I wasn't exactly thrilled with this video. I spent 16 minutes with you explaining that if I am interested in this topic I should be listening to some other video. What the?

[@UseYourEar]

Hi Richard, if you expect to develop a great musical ear after watching a 15 min video, well your expectation are way off. I'm sorry if we misled you though.

[@solaomosebi]

Good Video... but So repetitive

[@UseYourEar]

Yeah, it's a pretty old one, the newest ones are better. You're welcome to subscribe and check them out.

[@sumannagarwal8024]

what if a song is played in the chromatic scale

[@UseYourEar]

Hi Suman, I suppose you're referring to atonal music. Well, research shows that the understanding of music in atonal contexts is based on the same basic perceptual mechanisms that we use in recognizing tonal music. Of course, atonal contexts are more difficult because they introduce many issues in the recognition process which requires a greater degree of experience and speed.

[@sumannagarwal8024]

@@UseYourEaridk what atonal means. Im asking about the chromatic scale i.e, all 12 notes on a keyboard

[@UseYourEar]

@@sumannagarwal8024 Atonal means that the song hasn't a well-defined key. So all the 12 tones are played without a clear harmonic structure. usually most of the music we listen to is based in a specific key (made of 7 notes, not 12)

[@popeyesatl2858]

“Reamains”

[@endubsar7442]

If ur a music teacher my friend , i feel sorry for ur students

[@UseYourEar]

There are thousands of students following our method, they don't feel sorry at all, they are really happy about it. Check them out here kzbin.info/www/bejne/baG5dZ6pa9OGe6M You can also see their results in these videos here: Melodic recognition improvement kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZzchJiIo7mLlZo Chord recognition improvement kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHKYh4CcmZ6iqaM Musical memory improvement kzbin.info/www/bejne/baXSZGSDh7emoM0

[@chrisnewman9693]

480 Euro

[@UseYourEar]

We have hundreds of happy students who think the price is more than worth for what they've learnt and the results they've got. This is an essential skill for all musicians and was very difficult to acquire to most people, before our course.

[@sivarajan5440]

WHY INTERVAL EXERCISE INEFFECTIVE?

[@UseYourEar]

Hi Siva, check out this other video if you like to have these concepts clearer kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJPGoZeYlJeZm6s

[@rosettastoned2194]

Re re re re mi do

[@Kapiwolf123]

not a good video. first you slam the Interval Exercise, just to bring it back. No matter how you bring it, you contradicted yourself.

[@UseYourEar]

Hi Paulie, the reason why I showed the interval exercises again later on in the video is to explain what happens on a perceptual level when you're practicing those exercises, in order to clarify why and how they're ineffective. I suggest you watch the video again with more attention to get the point of what I'm saying.

[@andrem5022]

@@UseYourEar That was pretty obvious to me!

[@ymeveap9005]

Synesthesia moment

[@UseYourEar]

Hi Yme, it's not synesthesia. The colors we refer to are not visual colors. But just sensations. I hope the point came through from the video. Thanks

[@hankrichardson891]

really really irritating , bs

[@tod3273]

Nothing but a sales pitch for something expensive developed around strong opinions

[@UseYourEar]

I'm sorry to having to correct you but it's something expensive developed around a deep scientific understanding of it (through real scientific studies as you can see in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJPGoZeYlJeZm6s ) and a ton of real evidence based on the results our students get, as you can see here: Melodic recognition improvement kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZzchJiIo7mLlZo Chord recognition improvement kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHKYh4CcmZ6iqaM Musical memory improvement kzbin.info/www/bejne/baXSZGSDh7emoM0 Lastly, I kindly invite you to watch what our students think about our "Strong opinions" here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/baG5dZ6pa9OGe6M There are more than 2000 students inside our course, so quite a lot of people that have a "strong opinion".

[@haloguys3662]

wtf 9:18

[@edvinaberg3381]

Kinda cringe to comment on your own vid

[@UseYourEar]

Who's commenting on his own video?

[@edvinaberg3381]

@@UseYourEar sorry don’t remember this at all. Must’ve been high