Using ATAK for Urban Operations

[@S2Underground]

Appreciate the mention, thanks! Looks like a neat TOC-in-a-briefcase setup 👍👍

[@WR3ND]

You, this guy, and The Tech Prepper... Cheers.

[@urkince26]

I feel like you're a lot of KZbinrs favorite KZbinr at this point

[@martinbowman1993]

Great to see they mentioned one of the best channels on KZbin

[@Hankyeable]

S2 and T-rex Labs? Well, seatbelts on :)

[@ButtBanginTranny]

Ahhh the fear monger herself….S1 waste of time

[@Maxmason5695]

S2 UNDERGROUND MENTIONED!!! LETS GO!!!

[@TheFoxyt2]

Love love s2 and listen to podcasts asap when they come out!

[@HarryBudkins]

I believe S2 underground also has a decent application video.

[@RAMZAVFX]

Beat me to it

[@bthemedia]

Mentioned at 20:50

[@DPolk98]

Thank you for sticking to your promise to elaborate on ATAK usage, it’s so helpful to have an authoritative voice for beginners (me lol) to follow

[@T.REXLabs]

Authoritative is a bit strong, but hopefully we can get some folks started!

[@jakep5121]

Well a voice that sounds like Norm Mcdonald anyways 🙄

[@lancesudberry209]

I need him plus s2 teen buds or young adults they've helped a long the way around own area to both help me and they are more informative to me perhaps if they drink to much or some and me nothing lol

[@bulkmulch]

"Water's rising. Time to start collecting your maps." Genius. The whole setup and delivery. A very welcome reminder that I (all of us, really) need to not only be learning, but engaging and practicing. Thank you

[@McJiver]

Do you know what water he is talking about though...?

[@thetaksyndicate6234]

Thanks for the shout out T.RexLabs!

[@digitalmasterstx]

Purchased android tablet with no cell and no gps. Adding gps to meshtastic radio. Anyone know how to get ATAK to pull gps from mesh radio?

[@thetaksyndicate6234]

@@digitalmasterstx good question. My answer is get a different tablet. Why make this harder than it needs to be.

[@hughlamont3696]

Just flooded in houston. We used atak so me, wife and kids could all align at school and work and figure out how to get home. Super helpful piece of software, and we learned about it from you guys.

[@ImperiumLibertas]

You should do a write up about your experience and setup. What went well and what could be improved upon.

[@kc8omg]

I literally said to my screen "Of course you'd take the old one, there's 50 gold sovereigns in there!" 😆

[@chadhahn6113]

I was at a pawnshop and they had some of those. I was surprised at how small they were, slightly larger than a nickel.

[@jwcross6110]

S2 reference? Ugga bugga, one of us!! One of us!!

[@miletello1]

😂

[@waylonk2453]

What a host of information you provide in this video! I've got a lot to research and practice. The ATAK plugin for garmin watches blew my mind.

[@TheMulk777]

I am not the techiest person, and I love the idea of implementing some of these things. I consume all S2 Underground content too. These surface level videos that give an idea of all that can be done are great, but I want to see how each component is configured!

[@RAMZAVFX]

Perfect timing, right as i get back into using meshtastic. Good refresher from s2's old vid

[@lees.7114]

Any idea on how to get meshtastic to run with the new versions of atak? I can find older versions of atak anymore if you could point in a good direction.

[@canoma2]

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[@ryanhuggins]

I think there's a plugin for meshtastic. I'm just getting into it too.

[@nonactive3654]

S2 Underground name drop?! Based.

[@Okiey]

I'll be honest I just found this channel but if all your content is as instructive as this video I'll be here a lot!

[@bringer-of-change]

Youve not only successfully sold me on ATAK, But also every devuce you've shown here. I still worry about the devices traceablility, but the utility of this is far greater than i ever thought any civilian would have access to.

[@Doc9662]

Isaac, I have been watching every t rex labs video, and I have to say, I love how u tell us what's possible but you don't spell out HOW to do it. It frustrates me but I love it because it makes me think and explore

[@rickwebb1919]

A good all be it DIY solution for camera are the ESP-Cam boards, a 3d printed enclosure along with an 18650 and you have some small and quick to deploy camera.

[@turdfurgisin5843]

BIG SHOUTOUT TO S2UNDERGROUND!!!

[@Bond.JamesBond00]

Indeed Christmas comes twice a year. Love the Atak shoutout gents keep up the good work!

[@goombakiwi]

Another Bond reference. 😂

[@Quoteddaily]

So mind boggling to see my hometown on the KZbins. Also, nanerpuddinfestvle is GOATed

[@oldschoolhomesteadfarm2683]

Always a exciting experience watching your videos

[@Br1ckInTh3W4LL]

Using ATAK for disaster response and printing out paper maps for other team members reminds me of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team.

[@adamhall7227]

much more content like this please!

[@grapeape780]

I had an ATAK operation this morning, getting to the bathroom! 😎

[@ThePatriotParadox]

The SD card thing is amazing especially when Internet is out or unwanted.... To ba able to assemble a group of friends to help move furniture during a storm can all be planned out and gone over by each individual before meeting to save that leather sofa

[@Slimmerman223]

Love the vids you’re putting out Isaac.

[@PNWOverland]

Glad to see TREX is linking to S2 Underground - that guy is awesome

[@stihl888]

LOVING these TAK videos, please keep them coming! WOuld be great to do one on UAS Tools with a Thermal Drone integration...

[@AmRock83]

I'll give you a scenario to work with. Squad size team of people dispersed in an urban area with requisite equipment and training. One gets a call that a CHOP/CHAZ style zone has been setup and a relative is stranded inside, but precise location is unknown. The team has comms that can get them to a staging area. They arrive on site with the gear they need to run covert or overt unsupported extraction using items available on the civilian market (including vehicles). They need to determine location of the stranded person and extract them.

[@johncash-vr4ks]

One point I believe our host is missing is this: The fact that everyone today has these tools are the exact reason these tools were so incredible in the 1960's......because NO ONE had them ......don't you see, the scarcity of any notion of what these gadgets even were to the common man made them otherworldly,...incredibly well made an informative video, I have been meaning to really get off my ass and learn this gem of communication software.

[@z2894]

Great video, well produced, and thought provoking. I love T.RexLabs!

[@mtdmoody]

Great video. Practical application and what to learn helps me know where to start!

[@philippkeil5358]

Yessssss! Been waiting for this one!! 😍

[@withoutfurtheradoforever]

The 'ol BD5J. Love it! Fun fact: Author Richard Bach is the stunt pilot in that James Bond movie.

[@Ahmaurnamu]

Sweet mother of mercy! 😮

[@matthewliebe3071]

Thanks for the work you put into this. And S2 I have been watching and building ATAK with Lora over in my neck of the woods. I couldn’t have done this with you both. I have referenced you now 3 year old ATAK video to many people.

[@BEAUTIFULASAROCK]

Best channel in the entire world

[@Eraukon_]

Trying to get my friends onboard with this technology. It needs to be practiced and drilled as much as the sexy cool-guy gun stuff.

[@RenegadeADV]

When you're walking through a building and see a map of the building, don't take a photo of it, use your camera's scan function. It produces a much better quality copy.

[@Phych0path]

I was waiting for this one

[@mediocreman2]

This app has to be a government sponsored app. The amount of personal information you have to share with them is insane.

[@VanPray]

Great content, Thank you.

[@roflchopter11]

I can't decide which I want more. That briefcase or that horse trailer jet.

[@lamardsol]

perfect, just what i was looking for

[@mrshort2379]

that was way over my head, but still interesting to hear.

[@JLi--le]

For your upgraded internet/wifi gateway/router, consider watching the KZbin vid from Dave's (Plummer) Garage about the Spitz AX 5G Wi-Fi 6 Cellular Gateway, a multi-wan, 2 sim, travel router.

[@ridingwithrooster4762]

Great video

[@Mojo-e8x]

Good shit guys. Thank you for the content!

[@grantguice1741]

Unknown if you have already covered this on other videos, but I cannot seem to find out how to connect mesh devices to other mesh devices, and I need a step by step explanation of how to do voice comms through atak with spec 5 trekker type devices. Thank you for your detail in videos! I have learned a lot about it so far.

[@kc8omg]

Also recommend checking out Microhard radios if you haven't already. Great long range high bandwidth IP radios, multi channel MIMO, some with meshing, some with LTE capabilities. They make some that are very small and lightweight and good on battery usage, used them on 12ft wingspan VTOL drones. Similar capabilities to some of the Silvus embedded radios, but more affordable price point.

[@kamikazeparamedic]

Which model would you recommend looking into?

[@jasonpratt7850]

Problem with those radios is you need internet (IP) or cell tower (LTE)

[@kc8omg]

@@jasonpratt7850 Depends on the model, they have some that are just LTE, but they have others that use their proprietary 2.4GHz direct meshing IP over radio, 10, 20, and 40 MHz channels at up to around 200Mbps depending on conditions, no cell tires needed. Some models do both radio and LTE simultaneously.

[@kc8omg]

@@kamikazeparamedic We were using the radios from their pMLTE series that do both their "Digital Data Link" radio and LTE, we had the pMDDL2450 on the drone side, I forget the specific model on the ground station side but it was a more "desktop" box type radio. Their digital link acts just like a "wire" on a local network between the radios and any attached computers, even if there's no LTE service.

[@enregistreur]

Very inspiring, thanks!

[@Bhaiiya-yr1zq]

Lesss go to S2 😍

[@Th4tGuyLondon]

Love it!

[@TC-lb4gl]

S2 inspired me to build my own TOC box. Also, ATAK is not intuitive, so get ready to spend hours figuring out what should be basic

[@OutOfPockets]

S2 baby!

[@HotepSaoirse]

As always nice production value. I know you pay those actors well.

[@Anthony_Harper]

I have not tried it but old cellphones can be used as wifi cameras. Most people have old ones laying around. New cheap ones can be bought at Walmart for low cost. So if you find one that works well and you find that you need extras, Walmart is close by. They are flat for storage.

[@marcuscarter7639]

This a good thing to use in conjunction with starlink wifi, specifically the starlink "roam"

[@TheFlea1987]

Would like to incorporate this into the group of guys that I hunt with. We do pushes and this would come in handy to find where people are and to communicate better. We use radios but not everyone has one, but everyone has a cell phone.

[@delta-a17]

This is awesome

[@TheKATON132]

If you dont want to use ATAK and you need to set up light weight camera positions without wifi routers, find older point to point cameras that emit their own signal like those little 2.4GHZ spy cams that run on 9volt batteries and then use a video sweeper handheld monitor from Optoelectronics Inc to pick up the video feed. They're expensive like $900 but they dont require wifi routers, phones or tablets. ATAK is great for everything else though.

[@sypher4912]

Good video!

[@Riptide1884]

I really need some off line ip cameras that don't need the cloud. Likely I am not the only one watching your stuff. Let us know if you find anything worthwhile!

[@WR3ND]

The irony being how ubiquitous wireless earbuds have become. You should get a dreadlock mullet and pink foam rubber sneakers to complete the look though.

[@laakeaalbano6144]

Could you make a video on how to do the plug in for your garmin watch?

[@bare-footjo35]

The navigation plugin probably is running some version of the A* (A star) algorithm. Essentially, you break a map down into a grid, call certain squares passible (roads) and other squares impassable. You have a starting square and a goal square. Im going to simplify here, but you look at any adjacent square that is passable and give it a a score 'g' representing how far you had to travel to get there. Since this is the first move, you give it a 1 (next is 2, and after that 3, and so on). Then you give it an 'h' score, which is an educated guess as to how far your new square is from the target. You then get an 'f' score where f=g+h. Once you have the f score for every passible square next to your position, you pick the one with the minimum value as the next point in your path. Repeat untill you hit a dead end or reach your goal. If you hit a dead end, go back to a previous point and use the next smallest 'f' scoring square instead. It may add road speed and slowdown points (stop lights, signs, and stuff) as weights in the calculation, but that isn't strictly necessary. It would be interesting if it also took topology data as additional weight.

[@thetaksyndicate6234]

its literally roads off of osm.

[@bourbon_disciple]

RTSP firmware on Wyze cam will facilitate LAN connection which might allow it to integrate directly into ATAK.

[@michaelhoang5294]

Love the ATAK content! Now I'm kicking myself for throwing out my Android phones

[@quantumdynamics967]

Bravo Zulu, Bond. I expected you to survive.

[@SarahGildaMarcos]

🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 sending love, good morning

[@chrissewell1608]

James Bond drives through national monuments! GPS "Continue straight for 3.5 miles!" 😂

[@MrBarstow]

Let's go S2!!!

[@ihn]

For future bags add to the TAK server please a bridge into Meshtastic, that would give a real off grid setup. I am working on a similar solution, the idea is to have WLAN for the close surroundings, and LoRa Meshtastic for the ones that are more far away or people that are distributed in a building or underground.

[@PacketFPV]

That’s integrated on the newest version I believe.

[@PatrickKQ4HBD]

Ah yes! John Cleese for the win! So classic. 🎉 New mission uploaded: Persuade S2U-A to ditch the silly balaclava and step into the light. 😅

[@StephenShreds]

We have a group on the Greyman network as well!

[@JohannesNielsen]

You had to go and mention Banana Pudding. My next mission is to make you the best ever Banana pudding

[@MichaelBurko]

I wish the full-featured ATAK were available on iOS so that it could be used in groups with different platforms. Most of my folks have iOS devices.

[@isaacbotkintrex]

I'm afraid it will never happen, because so many of the permissions that ATAK needs are not available on the iOS devices.

[@josephleinhauser6130]

Isaac, have you seen the revamped beartooth? Looks like they have taken it a completely different direction and would be a really good team Manet radio that doesn’t require you to solder your own board and 3d print housings

[@tophattommy2]

Now, if only there were up to date "How To" videos! Concept is great if you can make it work!

[@tophattommy2]

Please note that the TAK Syndicate (AJ) has some GREAT videos. He seems to be one of 3 or 4 that are making up to date videos! There is more required than they can do alone though.

[@miroslavmajer5155]

20:05 I see what you did there :) And it's true!, He lives! :)

[@philippkeil5358]

Will there be more regarding ATAK? And / or the briefcase? Keep up the awesome work!

[@awsomedude9111]

When you find out your alarm clock radio is listening, then your 2004 car radio, then your phone on airplane mode, you realize the best way is to have old tech that has an off switch.

[@awsomedude9111]

Why, because they can turn off your car and keep your phone on when it’s turned off. Your phone never turns off

[@toddpearson8858]

Faraday bag

[@greggullett1272]

Sounds like there could be a several day class just about ATAK

[@KeliGrubb]

Amcrest and reolink both have some local ip cameras I believe. I see people use them a lot with home assistant. Might be a better choice than the wyze cams.

[@AgencyNighthawk]

Definitely can be, but Wyze's Outdoor cams are really good and the integrated battery runs for several weeks/months depending on how often you're streaming data

[@romoboy64]

If the tablet has Bluetooth, which just about every device does now, then it is still sharing your location. As devices constantly communicate with other devices nearby. This happens whether Bluetooth is turned on or off.

[@thetaksyndicate6234]

If your bluetooth radio is turned off its off. You are not sending any RF signature over bluetooth on a samsung device that is for sure.

[@romoboy64]

@thetaksyndicate6234 This is not true. It is called Bluetooth Mesh Networking and allows inter-device connectivity via radio only. The technology uses Bluetooth Low Energy and is on all the time. You cannot turn it off. Any nearby device with the same technology will always be communicating the location of other nearby devices, creating a constant tracked environment. Essentially, it puts sensors everywhere.

[@romoboy64]

@thetaksyndicate6234 Bluetooth classic is what would allow you to search or be searched by another bluetooth classic device (ex. head phones). BLE was mainly introduced in mass during covid as a form of contact tracing. And if your phone is running on an OS that has this tech enabled, then it runs at all times. There is no disabling BLE, unless you root the device to a different OS allowing you to disable.

[@thetaksyndicate6234]

Like I said I use samsung sorry should have been more clear, settings/location/location services/Bluetooth scanning ---you can turn that off.

[@romoboy64]

@thetaksyndicate6234 you're talking about bluetooth classic. This is in regards to bluetooth mesh networks. You don't turn that off, because you cant. Samsung uses the same technology. You're only bet to not, is a pre- 2020 phone that has not been updated

[@chief00000000]

Hi @TREX LABS , for months my friends and me have been searching for a good system and workflow, to track our assets (Cars and Boat) via GPS and ATAK, but we can't find a usable solution. It would be great, if you made a Video about possible solutions. Love your content, keep up the great work!

[@caleblohrer3932]

I want a training and field problem class. Figuring it out on your own before getting it to non-technical buddies is hard.

[@enriqueramongonzalez5912]

Good afternoon to all of you. Using the tool track history, How do I know how many kms am I doing in the current track? Is there a way of seeing that in the lines that are being recorded?

[@user-mp3eq6ir5b]

The IBPF... sounds so spooklike

[@EnergyTRE]

Might need to make your own cam. 😉

[@ThePatriotParadox]

The water definitely is rising, thanks

[@lancesmith6002]

New to the channel, not sure which direction you should go. I found the channel looking for a comparison of CALTOPO vs ATAK. I have about 4 years as a volunteer K9 SAR handler and started working with a local county EM office and we are trying to come up with the best tool for the area. Small towns and rural areas. Do you have a video comparing the two. We have the goal of tracking personnel and spotting gaps in search operations. Thanks

[@VulfenMP]

I cant be the only one... but the briefcase was in "From Russia With Love".

[@joeoliveira9745]

Awesome information. Still seems like sorcery

[@ryanhuggins]

Have you considered Meshtastic as the backbone for your ATAK local network? I've seen it done in videos and I'm planning to test it out once I get my server installed. My understanding is that it can handle voice comms to an extent.

[@VK6AB-]

Its only as good as the antenna and network, particularly the db.........this is really important. A lot of low power/antenna combinations struggle in an urban environment. You have to build a net.

[@Mercury_EG]

Im looking at bringing ATAK into some ops in my LE org. I ran it while i was an 02 in the Marines and can see the application for what i do now with the ATAK Civ version

[@crisprat5004]

We love s2

[@RenThraysk]

Have you seen the "HAMPR: Human Attached Mesh Portable Radio"? Google doc explaining how to connect a phone, powerbank and Ubiquiti Rocket M5 together. It's a bit janky with the number of USB adaptors and a PoE injector. Would be nice to have a single box with power in, usb-c out to phone for networking to radio & power, and PoE socket for radio.

[@mbz7417]

Poor man's mpu5

[@RenThraysk]

@@mbz7417 Yeah

[@anarchobacon]

I've done a fair bit of work with those. The amount of cables and adapters creates durability and physical reliability issues. I was reasonably happy with network performance, but actually integrating the things with personal load bearing equipment is miserable. I did build one prototype that used a Mikrotik mini wireless AP for EUD access to the mesh, but there were reliability/consistency issues as well as added power consumption.

[@RenThraysk]

@@anarchobacon Yeah, a single box with 3 ports, power in, PoE and USB-C for EUD would be less janky.

[@reltius2993]

Hello are you familiar with the Beartooth mesh network radios? I haven't seen you mention them in any videos yet. Was curious what you thought about them.