Using NDI with Propresenter over your network

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NDI is one of the great mysteries when it comes to setting up different outputs in propresenter or bringing in inputs. In this video we discuss and show how it can be utilised in your current setup to expand your options all for free
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[@OIE82]

THANK YOU JOSH! That was the first PP/NDI video I have watched that makes any sense. Most of the videos skip right over what NDI is or how to configure and use it.

[@learnpropresenter]

That is why we are here to do things a little differently Luther. I think it is always great when a few people make tutorials on the same stuff as we all do it a little different. Let me know if there are other topics you need a video on and I can always jump in and make one!

[@sean_gruber]

Perfect! Exactly what I needed, thanks! 😁

[@productofgrace316]

Interesting! Thanks Josh! Definitely try this for our small church here in the Philippines. More power to your channel!

[@learnpropresenter]

Thanks for the encouragement!

[@darjbrock]

Thanks for this video! I am going to set up a side monitor for the stage display so that my vision-impaired people can see better. PERFECT!

[@learnpropresenter]

Glad it was helpful especially if it is going to be put to good use like you suggest!

[@johnshanelutchooman3529]

Awesome explanation! thank you

[@learnpropresenter]

Thanks John

[@AuburnChristianChurch]

THANK YOU for this!!

[@learnpropresenter]

Glad I could help!

[@aaronswank]

Your videos are amazing! Question: Sending a video from ProPresenter through NDI to another computer running obs. Both the NDI monitor and the NDI feature in OBS have my videos coming in choppy. Any way to help fix that or is it a bandwidth issue?

[@learnpropresenter]

Without knowing too much my best guess is its probably more of a processing issue on your computer. Id be checking the loads on the cpu or RAM first. Also video over ndi isn't always super reliable because of processing and also bandwidth

[@chadcarrington1218]

Thank you for the video! That helped a bunch. I've got some ideas on how to use it now. We use analog video over coax to send the service to various TVs through out the building. Which has a terrible picture. I could use NDI to send it to those TVs.... Just need a way to hook the Ethernet up to the TVs?

[@learnpropresenter]

Its a possibilty it just depends on your network bandwidth really. Other options could be things like the propresenter app and use an apple tv

[@jobanjnr]

Hey Josh, I’m trying to have visuals on one computer that is connected to our main projector with no lyrics… and also another computer for just lyrics sending that to the main projector to key over the visuals and also to our stage projector at the back. Just wondering how I could do that?

[@learnpropresenter]

My question is why the two different computers? Why not run both of one computer with proprrsenter?

[@virtualfrappe9902]

Hi there! I've got a concern that I hope can be resolved. I've been trying to send only lower third text/lyrics from ProPresenter through NDI to another computer running OBS. However, I can't seem to make the NDI output from ProPresenter turn transparent, which caused it to overlay the video/screen on the computer running OBS, hence it just shows a black screen that contains the lower third text/lyrics on it. There's no option on OBS either to make the NDI output from ProPresenter transparent either. Could I ask for some insight on how I can resolve this? Thank you!

[@learnpropresenter]

This is called keying. It’s how green screens work. You need to go into the screen options in propresenter, click the fill screen colour option and choose bright green. You then need to setup the keying in one to get rid of the green part and it will just show your text. There’s heaps of videos about keying and ons on KZbin.

[@virtualfrappe9902]

@@learnpropresenter Thank you very much for answering my question! I didn't know what the concept was called, so resolving my issue was slow in progress, though we did get to do a workaround but what you explained is much better than what we did. Once again, thank you!

[@charp95]

Thanks so much for the video! (might be a duhh question): If I connect a streaming laptop (propresenter 7, i7 gaming) to another laptop (vMix, i5 regular) via ethernet cable to ensure smooth NDI input from vMix, does this mean the streaming laptop now has to stream off of wi-fi?

[@learnpropresenter]

If they are connected directly then possibly. If those Ethernet cables are networked together e.g. they run back to your router then they should be able to do the internet too.

[@stevebates8508]

You mention that you add Facebook and KZbin comments on the NDI feed. How do you add those to the screen in Propresenter?

[@learnpropresenter]

Hi Steve, We are able to do this because we use restream.io. What that means is part of our restream subscription they have a chat function that pulls both facebook and youtube chats into one feed which is just a browser url. We can then create a text box on a slide and use thefill feature then select URL instead of colour which will embed this browser window into the stage display and you can resize it to suit what you would like to see. If you don't have restream I am not sure of other ways to get both youtube and facebook comments in one place but you could embed the chats feeds from each individually but these would need updating for every livestream as they change.

[@dennisperez1896]

Thanks! Anyway to stream to KZbin and facebook without having to pay for restream?

[@learnpropresenter]

Can't say i have done this before. But a quick google could take care of it. You might need to run a higher end pc as it may jeee to encode both streams at once and send them up at the same time. Also need to make sure you have the upload bandwidth for it.

[@Thad811]

Has anyone experienced Propresenter NDI output working for a period of time and then freezing. The NDI monitor on another computer sees it as an NDI option, but no actual content is being delivered out from Propresenter. It requires me to create a new NDI Screen in Propresenter, which will work for a short time before freezing again. This is on Propresenter 7 (latest as of this writing)

[@learnpropresenter]

I have not come across this before sorry. Might be an issue with the computer cpu or ram or network congestion possibly?

[@rescand2]

You said ethernet cables can be used for the NDI, how do I get the Propresenter 7.5.X to send the NDI thru the ethernet cable and not the WiFi?

[@learnpropresenter]

Hi Robert, I was unsure of this myself so had to go research it. My first answer would be to turn the wifi off but you might need it. Apparently you can set the settings in windows to do this for you in network adapter priorities. Just google prioritise ethernet over wifi windows and you should find an easy walkthrough

[@djbassick]

Thanks for the video. Do you need the NDI toolset installed to use a NDI output in ProPresenter? It will it work without the toolset installed?

[@learnpropresenter]

That’s a great question. I’m not entirely sure. I’m guessing you would need NDI installed and running in the background

[@djbassick]

@@learnpropresenter I checked with support. It seem that you don't need it when using propresenter

[@learnpropresenter]

Good to know thanks for updating us

[@jstump1972]

What ndi tool to use for sunday school teacher or missionary laptop over wifi to present to pp7 and too the video wall?

[@learnpropresenter]

Probably Nadi studio monitor or screen recorder

[@markjennings2728]

Really weird question - if I want to send a NDI signal, would I need an encoder / decoder, or could I just purchase a Decoder?

[@learnpropresenter]

You could send it from a computer to another computer and use the second computer as the decoder with the NDI apps available. This is the easiest and cheapest option if you have a spare computer. We used a 5 year old MacBook Air for ours and it worked fine when connected via ethernet.

[@dennisperez1896]

If the lyrics computer is right next to the streaming computer would it be better to use some kind of cable instead?

[@learnpropresenter]

Its always better to use a cable. We'd connect them via ethernet onto the same network.

[@dennisperez1896]

Thanks !

[@NewYears1978]

Can you use NDI to use an LED wall (or monitor for instance) as an OUTPUT for ProPresenter? We have two outputs (screen and stage screen) but we need to add an output to our led screen which we can't run cables for (For some reason the idiots that installed it did not run cords for the LED screen to the main computer.)

[@learnpropresenter]

I’m not sure. This would depend on if the LED screen can receive an NDI input or not. For example to use a computer as an output you would have to have NDI tools installed on it

[@waynebowers6792]

I guess I am doing something wrong. I created the stage display per yoru example, but I am getting nothing on the display. I have set the NDI stage display to every look I have created and all I see is a black screen. Any help would be appreciated.

[@learnpropresenter]

If you’re using Ndi you’ll need to install the Ndi tools to receive the Ndi signal. You can’t just send an Ndi feed to a screen it has to be to another device e.g. computer with the Ndi tools installed and open to receive the Ndi feed

[@waynebowers6792]

@@learnpropresenter in the video, when you created the new NDI Stage display and the set your preview to show the current and previous slides, it showed up in your preview window when you selected it. It’s not doing that in mine.

[@jonhrndz]

So what is the NDI setup process on a TV? It is a modern TV with Ethernet/WiFi. Do I need to install something on the tv for NDI signal to work on it?

[@learnpropresenter]

You'll need a device that is able to receive an NDI signal and display it plugged into your tv. This. could be something like an apple tv or a laptop plugged in

[@jonhrndz]

@@learnpropresenter thank you I looked more into it and found bird dog converter. Just one concern though. I am running video into propresenter and sending a stage display with the video feed via NDI. The quality of the video isn’t the best though. I am struggling to figure out how to send a good (clear and crisp) quality through NDI. Any suggestions?

[@learnpropresenter]

It’s probably got Something to do with the computer not coping with the load or the network speed the NDI is using. If you’re NDI I’d go wifi this could be a speed issue on your network

[@jonhrndz]

@@learnpropresenterCame back to ask what app should be used to receive the NDI signal on AppleTV? I’m trying to work with the sienna link but it’s pretty confusing.😅

[@RexyFan]

How would I connect the NDI to a normal smart tv so that it shows stage view ?

[@learnpropresenter]

You would need the NDI tools apps to do so probably. Not sure you can get this on the smart tv (probably depends on the OS) but alternatively a device that receives NDI could be used eg newer Apple TV, laptop etc. plugged into the tv

[@RexyFan]

@@learnpropresenter Would the birddog play 4k work … Use this to connect my laptop to tv ?