Using Tamiya Gloss Black Paint As A Base For Chrome

[@fabonline9389]

Thanks Robert. Love that blue stand. If anyone is interested, Robot Kai has the Hobby Mio airbrush stands in stock!

[@teddyjones8027]

I only use Tamiya gloss black spray can for chrome paint and mica powders, it works perfectly every single time. Thank you for sharing my friend. Everyone keep yourselves and love ones safe and healthy and remember to SMILE 😊God Bless 🙏

[@956miggz]

Nice 👍🏼 I also tried Gaianotes ultimate black for a gloss base for chrome and metallics. Works awesome

[@bobrivett7645]

Great video, those printed air brush stands are pretty cool. Great black base test for chrome paints. And that little moisture & dust trap, is so cool. I will be looking to get one of those. Thank you Robert, you made my sunday. Ps. This weekend i started a couple of Arifix 1/72 scale Mig-19 jet aircraft, my girls gave them to for xmas. Will paint them with my swallowtail this week as a pair North Vietnamese jets pouncing a pair of A4F's. Im so lucky my girls put up with my hobby. Have a great Saint Patrick's Day everyone.

[@harveykeeler2661]

Thanks for the great video. I watch them all.

[@LarrysModelShop]

Awesome video. Thanks for the heads up on the Tamiya black as a base for chrome.

[@CharlieHague-m8u]

Excellant video. I really like that SMS dark chrome.

[@barbatosrex9473]

Me too!

[@ricksattler682]

That Iwata stand is JUST what I’ve been looking for to hang my swallowtail! Wow, learn something new every time I watch your vids 😊

[@strinity511]

Testors gloss black enamel works amazing as a base for the AK super chrome (ak9198). Just mix that testors about 50-50 or 40-60 with thinner, then use 15-20max psi while spraying that chrome. It's comes out like a mirror.

[@codyarmstrong1038]

I definitely need to nab one of those stands, chrome is something I have yet to try so I'm glad I seen this!

[@Bob-b7x6v]

Happy St. Patrick's Day. You make it look so easy.

[@stevenh411]

I've had some amazing results using Spazstix ultimate black backer and GSW airbrush chrome.

[@nimay13]

SMS Dark Tone looks awesome.

[@johngarcia2604]

I agree. Tamiya paints are the best!

[@lylebriggs923]

Another nice informative video an thank you for your time and effort to put into your video's for us Robert I always watch them an always learn something about paints an painting

[@chaley2935]

I have to agree that the SMS one does look the best.

[@JoeBarbato]

Thank you for all of your videos, I do watch them all, Because I subscribe to your channel.

[@thehazmatguy480]

Another great video, Robert! I agree with you on the Mr. Color GX black, the GX paints are great.

[@dragons_hook]

I just did this last week with the rattlers with pretty good results! I was hoping we'd get this one. Great to see it!

[@ausfoodgarden]

Yeah, the Tamiya gloss black is a great base for metallics. I mostly just use the X1 as I'm not bulk spraying like you.😊 The SMS chrome looks excellent. I'll get some next trip to the hobby store as they stock SMS. That blue airbrush stand looks awesome btw. Cheers!

[@sgtatarms4780]

Nice options for a base paint. Great brush holder idea

[@leomontelongo1088]

I've use testors color shift basecoat gloss black ⚫️ which also works well

[@johnodinsson3635]

I cannot wait to see those new colors, I'm definitely gonna pick up a set

[@dubberkoala]

I wonder if this will work with graphite powder. Planning to use it on my mandalorian helmet

[@barbatosrex9473]

Acrylics are better for that as it takes the acrylic slower to dry. I tried using the Tamiya Spray Can but it dried too fast before I could apply the Powders

[@dubberkoala]

@@barbatosrex9473 I see, I see. Thank you very much!

[@titaniumhen]

BR - I am fairly new (10 years) into model building - I took a 40 year hiatus (Well, I actually started plastic model building in 1965, then switched to balsa flying planes in 1972) I really learn a lot from your videos and appreciate them very much. I do save some of the more important ones, but if I need to revisit your videos, I use the search option. Thank you for everything you have taught me. I sent an email to you, I am interested in buying some of your paints - How do I do that?

[@paulsawyer2326]

Great video and great info on Tamiya gloss black spray paint as primer base under chrome. I really liked the SMS warm chrome. It has a great shine and smoothness to the finish. I'm curious about the chrome paint brand, think you saiid it was from Australia? Is this avaiable in US or only there? Who sells it there? Thank you.

[@christopherbrown5338]

I did my Apollo 11 command module today and it looks beautiful! I didn't quite get the smoothness you got though. See, I am using a pancake compressor in my garage and the max is 150 psi. When I turn it down to around 25 psi, there is no flow. between 25- 40 I'm getting flow but when I sprayed flat aluminum, it went on with a rough texture. In the past I had a Paasche compressor and I airbrushed with no issues. My airbrush is the Paasche Talon.

[@barbatosrex9473]

Sounds like you're going to need a smaller compressor

[@christopherbrown5338]

@@barbatosrex9473 I was wondering if I can get something with a gauge & moisture trap that will just plug in.

[@christopherbrown5338]

@@barbatosrex9473 I got one of these and it works great! My air flow is much more controlled and setting it is much more precise.

[@michelyjesica]

Hello mister Rex , Did you try the Mr.hobby aquous gloss Black h2 for black base for chrome?

[@barbatosrex9473]

That's a great paint line. I haven't used that yet with chrome but I'm sure it works great too

[@value_exe]

Hey i ordered your version of the swallowtail yesterday. Really excited for it :)! Thank you so much for showing off all these products!

[@barbatosrex9473]

Thanks for the support my friend

[@AndrewC6]

Very nice method for use of gloss black. 🙂🎨

[@sohchx]

I used to use Alclad black as a base for the Alclad clear but when dry it simply isn't gloss enough. So what I did was I started laying 2k clear over top of the black base and then putting the chrome down for far better results.

[@jimhoskinson174]

What is most durable chrome you have tested without a topcoat

[@aroncheek5092]

Looking forward to the mica testing, I had pretty good results on a gundam and a necron unit

[@legionact1]

Fantastic🎉 you save me lots of time

[@michaeltyl7697]

Can you make a video showing using photoetched parts from tools used to remove from the frets, to bending, applying to models and painting of them. Thanks.

[@Johnny_Electronic]

Nice review as always. That IWATA air brush holder is my main holder now. Best one I've found so far.

[@steve177cal5]

Great timing.. My Alclad gloss black went bad and Alclad uk have disappeared. I have all their candy and chromes but cannot get hold of their airbrush cleaner. Any advice on what to use to clean please. Love all your video's and thanks for your hard work to help others.

[@barbatosrex9473]

For cleaning in use hardware store lacquer thinner. Acetone works great too, I keep both on hand

[@BrianMcKnight68]

Great content. Always.

[@OakfieldDon]

Awesome video! I just used your link to order the dust collector. Can't wait to install it on my new Swallowtail that I just got. (It's still in the box).

[@Zorkrum]

I have a custom super gloss 2k black urethane paint from my job. It looks like obsidian glass it's so glossy

[@tennentssuppa]

After completing a really complicated paint job on a 1/12th scale model motorbike, I have a tiny mark that needs touching up. The Colour is X-7 red, can you do a Tamiya X-7 paint pen [like the posca ones] or can you recommend another make, that is the exact same colour please? maybe even an empty pen that can be filled up. Could be a real money spinner. Tony UK Regards Tony

[@barbatosrex9473]

I would try Molotow color makers. They have a red that I believe is close

[@frankneher9192]

I'd like thestand that Frank made you I'm wonder if he would make one taller so you can keep the air hose connected and I'm also wondering if he would be willing to share the STl file for it so we could print our own?

[@Avalanche523]

Excellent video, very helpful. Thank you for your insight and knowledge. 👍🏼

[@LordTCH]

I'm oddly excited to see how the different primers are going to affect the chromes. Should that be effect instead of affect?

[@garethmurphy8235]

I always use Tamiya gloss black for Metallics.. Stuff is awesome.. TS-14 all the way.. on another note.. How do you guys thin Gaia paints.. In particular.. the EVO surfacer...

[@carmodsbydadbods8813]

your content is awesome!!!

[@barbatosrex9473]

Thank you my friend.

[@roadyways2420]

Great video! Thank you. I wonder how the samples faired with the tape test.

[@lylebriggs923]

Hope you are having a good St,Patrick's day

[@SteveJames-it4tp]

Thank you very much

[@barbatosrex9473]

You are welcome

[@mkingwell45]

i use SMS jet black with good results.. Tamiya spray will work out so expensive in uk

[@seanusmcmaximus]

Hey there buddy, i just wanted to say a huge thank you. I do a huge amount on chroming. I find alclad black was pretty good, and here the UK they have stopped selling it, import only. Ammo mig brought out the astand range, which, isnt terrible, but ive found the black base to not be as good as alclad and either way alclad or a stand, i genuinely hate spraying it on larger things. It works fine on small detail curvy pieces but ive found they just arent that good on something the size of the back of a spoon. I find i get alot of ripples are the gloss just isnt that great, which means the chrome isnt that great. I hate spraying the enamels, especially on larger things as 1, the astand black is expensive and 2, the fumes are horrible. Smaller stuff not too bad, but i was struggling. I watched your video here and i thought id give the tamiya ts-14 a try. The x-1 is ok, but the gloss isnt as good as alclad/astand in my opinion. Ive just tried the ts-14 and its amazing. I can see it saving me alot of time and money in the future. I also put it straight to plastic, and the smoothness of the plastic works well with the gloss. Is there any need for primer? ive yet to put chrome, candy and clear on it, so i look forward to seeing what the final results are.So i just wanted to say thank you for being a pioneer on these kind of things its really helped me out! Keep it up the good work!

[@sarahjune8707]

😊happy St Paddy's day

[@glynnburnage6890]

Tryed ak chrome a when go to polish it up lightly it comes off.think going try revell chrome know it’s not cheap £23 in uk.other one have you done a video on airbrushing a car kit say where have get paint in deep recesses in under side car.without loading up the sides of the recesses with paint as need get close to get paint to bottom recesses?regards Glynn

[@VideoCesar07]

Thanks for the review I like Alclad Chrome but the base gloss black also doesn't give me the best results so, like you, I wonder if something changed about the formula and how you're supposed to spray it. First bottle I followed the instructions to spray multiple coats until it looks wet/glossy after it dries. This current bottle is glossy but not as much as the previous one and it just doesn't seem to spray as smoothly as the previous bottle either. I do have Mr Color gloss black lacquer which works great but gonna give Tamiya gloss black a try now. As always thanks for your videos.

[@chauffeurmarco]

They all good but like I said on an other video, SMS is outstanding. and damn. The dust cacher is only on US Amazon.

[@allanlowe9346]

Thanks for another useful video Robert. i use the Tamiya TS-14 and it is very good but I'd like to see a comparison with your own Gloss Black which I think would be at least as good as the Tamiya even though you have to AB it. Just wish I could buy it here in Australia or have it shipped here.

[@bobread5772]

Some time back you tested and really liked Dispae chrome but you didn’t have any results of how durable it is. I haven’t heard anymore about this chrome. Have you changed your mind about it?

[@robertthompson6707]

Is there an adaptor for the dust/water filter? To use on a Badger airbrush.

[@ohiovikingsfan9294]

Ever decanted it and sprayed through airbrush? I use airbrush and decant paints like to control it that way and sprays better

[@sims8717]

been having an odd problem with my recent batch of tamiya ts14. theyve been coming out satin rather than glossy. Not sure if its the rain or the can itself. im bamboozled.

[@stevebak6664]

Good video. Interesting that you had trouble with the Alclad black. I had problems too. I think the paint went bad. For one, it did not cure well. Secondly, it was laying down like there were bits in the paint. I could not get a good smooth gloss. Also, I have had trouble with Alclads chrome not spraying well. I think I want to try the SMS. Two questions: 1. How well does it stand up to minor handling once sprayed? Does it dull down if wiped? 2. Can you share a good US source to purchase? Thanks in advance.

[@frankrowland63]

I was doing a car in molotov chrome for a base candy red 😢 it failed miserably strip and start over BTW I spayed the molotow chrome

[@vftw6086]

Omfg I wanna thank you for making this video which I absolutely needed because I can't invest in airbrushing and have been only using spray cans for my Gunplas! Thank you again man! This isn't the first time you did me and the community a huge favor! Keep It Up!!!! By the way, do you think these Tamiya black chrome base will do well with the other clear colour to give the metalic feel? Or maybe even other Tamiya colours.

[@wesleysim1805]

Can I do a black base then a sms chrome followed by a tam clear blue?

[@barbatosrex9473]

Absolutely

[@duonghai1864]

I'll try this right away

[@makoajohnson2341]

So you don't use a primer and it won't come off? I need to try this

[@Broncorc64]

Have you ever tested SAGUDIO air brush paints?

[@AgentSmith13]

Can you recommend a dehydrator?

[@barbatosrex9473]

Sure this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZecgpeOj9iao9Usi=PkNZhx1csCCla34_

[@AgentSmith13]

@@barbatosrex9473 bought it. It’s Called Samson Silent now.

[@godfather1116]

Do you have to primer first, then use the Tamiya black as base?

[@scooterdoughmas3012]

curious i wasgoing to try your 2k gloss black with alclad chrome im guessing should be great together 🤔😁ps cant wait for the new colors got the blue and the fire soo excited thx Rob😎

[@colinmsmall]

How durable do you think the sms dark is? Chromes seem to really vary in durability.

[@barbatosrex9473]

It's one of the more durable ones out there. I really like SMS Hyperchrome

[@DatFunnyPerson]

so is the tamiya x1 gloss black also a primer? does it work well? I have problems with Tamiya x1 Glos Black and im thinking off buying the x1 for my airbrush

[@gravidaze4660]

Does the Tamiya Jar (X-1) also work or just the spray can version since the jar is an acrylic and not pure lacquer?

[@barbatosrex9473]

It works too

[@gravidaze4660]

Thanks for the info! @@barbatosrex9473

[@ianprice4679]

I would just use the lp1 jar it’s a true lacquer gloss black

[@NukeForBinLaden24356]

Can a black primer be used for metallics?

[@barbatosrex9473]

Absolutely

[@Baleandor]

Would AK's chrome also work better with this base?

[@barbatosrex9473]

Yes

[@thatonelithuanian]

Yes works great

[@FE428Power]

Can you spray 2k clear over these chromes?

[@Sams1802]

Sorry if its a stupid question, but would I still be getting the same glossy black results on a primed surface?

[@barbatosrex9473]

Yes

[@Sams1802]

@@barbatosrex9473 Awesome, thanks for the reply! I dont usually comment but just wanna say I really appreciate all the videos you make. My painting skills have improved thanks to all your tips.

[@mustangzr]

Excellent video..

[@christopherbrown5338]

Do you know where I can find some SMS Hyperchrome Dark Tone? I don't need much. Just doing the top of a 1:48 scale Apollo 11 command module.

[@barbatosrex9473]

I bought mine directly from the manufacturer

[@christopherbrown5338]

@@barbatosrex9473 In Australia? If so, would you be willing to sell a half or third bottle?

[@barbatosrex9473]

It's only $8 a bottle

[@christopherbrown5338]

@@barbatosrex9473 but the time it takes & the shipping. I don't need much

[@christopherbrown5338]

@@barbatosrex9473 Yeah but the wait and the shipping is a lot.

[@legionact1]

thank you for the info, very useful

[@barbatosrex9473]

Thank you

[@legionact1]

@@barbatosrex9473 any chance you got some tips for painting a Warhammer 40k necron Monolith? I was thinking gloss black (x1 maybe), yellowish chrome / coper / gold also tamiya and than aluminium. 3 main colors. Any recommendation? Please look at the stock art for the model and imagine it in glos lacquers :)

[@mrtoastie3681]

Which gloss clear do you recommend for chrome?

[@barbatosrex9473]

None. I've tested many and most destroy the chrome finish. The best one I would say is Alclad Aqua Gloss and E7 Chrome finish. I personally wouldn't put anything. Have you seen Duralumen Tuff Chrome? It is sold on Etsy and is fairly durable

[@mrtoastie3681]

@@barbatosrex9473 not heard of that thanks. I just bought a-stand chrome and their lacquer clear gloss. I assumed they worked together

[@ForDJWiz]

Will your Blackened Blue II be back in stock soon?

[@dark567893]

No need for primer with the tamiya ?

[@barbatosrex9473]

Every situation is different. That said I don't use any when I spray Tamiya Spray cans

[@dark567893]

@barbatosrex9473 fair and right on , plan to use this as a base for my alclad Metallics on a custom gunpla. Thanks 🙏

[@reylen3883]

Where can i get enamel black paint, i live in the USA and cant seem to find any

[@woodman29]

Hello sir quick questions for you! If I thin either of these ( decanted spray can or X1) will it lose the gloss coat? Or dull out? Thank you as always!

[@barbatosrex9473]

No, it will stay shiny

[@woodman29]

@@barbatosrex9473 once again thank you for all you do sir!! You rock 👊😁

[@christopherbrown5338]

Do you know how long the SMS hyper chrome dark takes to fully dry? I need to tape it off in order to paint the heat shield. I've been using blue painters tape.

[@barbatosrex9473]

I always say it safe and wait 48 hours

[@christopherbrown5338]

@@barbatosrex9473 Thank you for all your help. It turned out great but the chrome paint seems a bit touchy. It was after 48 hours and I was adding some final details and I noticed a finger print & a light smudge. It would not wipe off, so I sprayed those area's again.

[@mr.hotshot8822]

I couldn't get the Tamiya x-1 paint in the jars to work with chrome, only the spray can, is it because the can is a laquer base paint and the jar is an acrylic base??? Would love to know Thanks

[@barbatosrex9473]

Yes it's 2 completely different formulas. Not sure why the jar acrylic doesn't work when other acrylics do but every paint formula is different. The can however is great as is Tamiya's lacquers in the jar

[@mr.hotshot8822]

Awesome! Thank you for responding

[@stefanolsson1895]

how about alclad chrome?

[@pawpawstew]

Mental gears turning here... I'm thinking that metallic paints, especially chrome, are highly pigmented paints. As such, once you've sprayed enough on the subject that you get a nice reflective chrome look, isn't the color of your base coat moot at that point? The layer of pigments have become opaque. So, this begs the question: Is a more comprehensive test warranted? Should other gloss colors be tested under metallics? Is a specific color even needed, or is the real "mojo" in smoothness of the surface on which the metallic paint is being sprayed? I tried a small test of my own, and actually had the best results by spraying clear acrylic gloss (Future) over a sheet of plain white styrene. However, I've heard (not tried yet) that gloss royal blue is better than gloss black. I'm curious about your thoughts and whether you'd be open to doing a comprehensive test in your studio?

[@ianprice4679]

Thanks for the insight I was wondering the same thing, I was going to try clear coating a black primer then doing my chrome/silver over that

[@christopherbrown5338]

May I ask what psi you run your air brush? I have air brushed in the past with a small compressor and it always turned out great, but today I ruined a paint job I believe because my other compressor is set too high.

[@barbatosrex9473]

20 psi is my average for most paints. Slightly more for primers and less for chrome

[@christopherbrown5338]

@@barbatosrex9473 Did you have to thin the SMS cark tone?

[@barbatosrex9473]

No

[@rodneynoble452]

What type of pants, react badly with each other? You mention, that the tamiya lacquer black, you can put anything on top of it. Does that mean the acrylic black, cannot be used as a base with some paints?

[@scorcher004]

i've heard good stuff about mr color ueno black as a base (edit, i made this comment before you showed it at the end, lol)

[@arusiasotto]

May have to dump my alclad for that tamiya+sms combo

[@Kal-el23]

How long do you wait after laying down the base to spray the chrome?

[@barbatosrex9473]

It dries super fast, I'd say 20 to 30 minutes

[@user-kz5lj5gl6e]

I have only seen a title and main screen so far (have not seen a video yet), but it looks like main player is missing here -> Tamiya Gloss Black ENAMEL x-1

[@barbatosrex9473]

Tamiya Enamels are not sold here in the US. So I try not to show anything that's easily available to the majority of my viewers. Great paints though

[@user-kz5lj5gl6e]

@@barbatosrex9473 thanks. I believe you have followers globally...

[@danieljanssen4580]

I’ve got the Iwata airbrush holder and it is well worth the extra couple of dollars versus the cheap stands. My airbrush’s are far too valuable to trust them to a cheap stand!

[@teddyjones8027]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAVE

[@DJamesofSalt]

I LOVE Tamiya spray cans, but am forcing myself to only use the air brush so I get better

[@Huzaku]

I had to stop using tamiya paints. Idk what happened but quality control went down real bad. I've gotten 3 spray cans with either clogged or broken nozzles, and the jars of paint I've gotten recently were completely dried out. I contacted them they sent me replacements but the replacements were also crap. Seals on them cracked or something and only 1 jar still had paint in it when it arrived, i would say it was a shipping issue but they weren't shattered just leaked out of the lid somehow. And one of the spray cans was completely empty, like just air and a marble. Legit after 4 tickets with support and them not believing me I'm done with tamiya. I'm still waiting on my refund for the box of destroyed product they sent me as compensation for the destroyed products they sent me and its been over a month now fighting them over this.

[@barbatosrex9473]

Wow I'm shocked to hear this, such a high quality company

[@Huzaku]

@@barbatosrex9473 I was shocked as well. I've never in 6 years had an issue out of any of their products. And I would've just chocked it up to "well maybe I got unlucky and got some back of the warehouse stuff that sat a while." Or "maybe it was just a bad batch" but the customer service really was the straw that broke the camels back. They asked for a picture to prove it was messed up, even asked me to send back the damaged product so it could be inspected, I guess my pictures weren't good enough. Really great company 99.9% of the time but that 0.1% is so painful because of how awful customer support is handled. So if you ever have to contact tamiya customer support, I would just not do that and count it as a loss.

[@Nohorizon1]

Those spoons are shinier than stainless steel actual spoons 😂