Using the flinch response? - Adam Chan - Kung Fu report

[@drsivad1646]

I think when you're in an argument you should have your hands up in a non aggressive calming manner before the flinch which would allow a higher rate of success of the flinch response. Of course if you argue hands down it probably won't work unless the attacker was extremely slow.

[@adamchankungfu]

film one on that topic kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGLVaqSliMh3psk

[@MrTigre6]

Dr Sivad you are absolutely correct. At the moment you sense your opponent is getting aggresive, you should raise both hands in the "non-threatening pose" of "Hey guy, take it easy, I dont want any trouble" mode. Being face to face with your opponent, and having your arms at your sides is a non-starter.

[@bynx3959]

Dr Sivad I do that like talk with your hands if that makes sense

[@giancarlorodriguez7276]

FullMetalJacket Tony blauer goes over those concepts in his S.P.E.A.R. system. he talks about nonviolent postures, situational awareness, reading cues that someone is about to attack and using the flich response

[@banzavatoka5929]

Flinch is the specialty of Kuta. It does not matter where your hands are there is always a way to counter attack a strike or kick so long as your eyes sees it.

[@GeneBurnett]

I've been working on and entertaining that notion of "flinch forward" in NCGF, not as you say, with the assumption that it will work, but just to train my body to extend forward with some protective structure rather than retreat into contraction and shrinking when I'm caught off guard. Aside from whether it would work for me in a real attack, which I hope I never have to find out, I really like it physically and psychologically. To meet change, especially sudden change, with contact and some pressure forward just feels really good, like it activates some sort of masculine presence or energy in me, that I can't help but think is a good thing. I want to keep my awareness and options open without overconfidence. I definitely don't want to shrink and lose my center backwards if I can help it. It's a work in progress. ;~) Thanks again Adam. Great balanced stuff as usual. GB

[@adamchankungfu]

great insight Gene not making too much assumption. "I ll just put my hands up" " touching range plus 2 steps is a safe distance" ... " as long as i cover my centerline"...... there is so much assumption in the MA media good way to make $$$ but people that have spent there whole career working on attacking might have spent a lot of time getting around those common concepts, especially if people broadcast those concepts over and over

[@GeneBurnett]

Amen to that. ;~) GB

[@AnaamSings]

when Adam Chan attacks, the sound effects happen all by themselves! it's like real life movies lol - ty for upload

[@2012hyland]

Really enjoy your teaching perspective on kungfu Adam , thank you for sharing 🙏🏻

[@daneck100]

Thank you sifu I really enjoy the videos but another instructor of mine made a good point two things makes martial arts ,any martial arts work weather it's Kenpo, Wing Chun ,taekwondo two things that make a martial art work, luck and surprise.... And sometimes you're surprised how lucky you are but for my own experience it's the one who gets off the line first it's hard to win playing catch up ! but I still remember what my instructor told me years ago he said" Danny, you're going to stand there and let him beat on you till they're exhausted and then you're going to kill them "

[@iainisbald]

I've trained myself to go into a lose guard when talking to strangers. It's pretty simple to do. I started by doing some kind of natural movement as I was walking down the street and people approached. Any movement to get my hands up. Scratch my elbow, play with the zipper on my jacket, if I'm carrying something small, like sunglasses, I will slowly switch it from one had to the other so that both hands are in front of me when the person closes. I'm at the point where I don't even think about it anymore, and I do it almost every time someone approaches me. I've done a few times as a genuiine flinch.

[@counterkidnapping1737]

Same with me but I think that's not a flinch that's preparedness

[@pyramidselfdefencesolution9214]

@@counterkidnapping1737 talking hands always works

[@Mike_Land1]

Great Adam, very very very good I love this works. I working too on that. My respect 🙏

[@sentrumwingchunklubb9483]

Very good video! The reaction time you have within touching distance against a typical hook/slap is around 200-250ms. If you do the "human benchmark test" online - you'll see that the average reaction time when you KNOW you are tested, is between 200-250 on a young person. And keep in mind: this is the time it takes to INITIATE your movement... and against a HOOK. Add all other factors, such as light, distractions, emotional state, awareness and I am sure you level out on around 400-500ms. Meaning - there is absolutely no time for anything at all if your hands are down.. In my experience the sweeping Man sao is best applied in multiple opponent or ambush scenarios when the opponent is detected by peripheral sight but it's impossible to determine angle of attack. I can seldom get the phow bong to work as a recovery against cheap shots, however it works nicely as a recovery after contact has been made first. Would you mind to talk more about your experiences with recovery?

[@xxdummyfreshful]

Do you think Tony Blauer would disagree with you, about the startle flinch response?

[@djehutisundaka7998]

Either you can stop the surprise attack or you can't. Live with the reality of that. James DeMile's perspective is to know when a situation is about to get to that point and to then be the sudden attacker, ending the situation, not the attacked.

[@scottthompson-ez1hz]

styles aside its attributes that win the day. if in a self defense your fast, balanced and mentally prepared your style is inconsequential. I

[@biffersnaper]

2:16 dat was fast

[@taymeh6004]

becouse the first touch it should be over .thats why you train the form over and over untill its ingrained into your body and train pushing hands to make it work. its the only way that you can react without thinking and it works. yang style taichi.

[@ceckolalovia]

Is there a way that you not flinching in a training or real life situation or at least not so much ?

[@skighb9292]

Good stuff bro

[@matth464]

Nice Video Adam! you look well :)

[@chrisken8902]

excellent !!!

[@bae313]

You missed several Blauer flinch concepts. First a natural or bladed stance should be employed. Second, the hands should be posted well above the waist. Third the flinch response requires a visual, tactile or audible queue which a highly trained fighter learns to avoid so as not to telegraph his intentions. THE REAL OTHER SIDE IS THAT THE SAME TRAINED FIGHTER HAS THE SAME PROBLEMS WHEN FACING AN AMBUSH FROM A SKILLED ATTACKER. The way to avoid the ambush is situational awareness and maintaining distance and forcing the ambusher to give away his intentions. This is the old, the best way to not lose a fight is to not be there when the fight starts The science backs up the flinch response, but as Tony agrees, it is a launch point that can be improved upon by someone willing to put in more time. Nice job on a 20 ninjas response though. Bet you have one about beating MMA fighters with wing chun too. BTW, I studied wing chun It will not stand up to powerful martial arts, it's not intended to. A good Muay Thai man will always beat a good wing chun man. That was the whole point of the original MMA experiment. As the Romans figured out thousands of years ago from real combat where men fought in battles to the death with no rules. IF YOU CAN PUT A MAN ON HIS BACK AND KEEP HIM THERE, YOU HAVE THE GREATEST CHANCE OF PREVAILING. That is why the wrestlers do best in MMA and why no primarily wing nuts have ever been the best.

[@dharnisivamdharnisivam7056]

chan where can get aheadgear like that

[@perrypelican9476]

Should we assume the bad guy is fast or has any fighting skills? If a guy is a jerk and starting to be weird I will back away so he can't sucker punch me. But of course you never know. More good advice. Thanks.

[@imbradtaylor]

Hands should already be up at that distance in a non threatening conversational manner. Higher than his hands, keeping him at a distance.

[@peterbrennan2388]

you need to have a fence up - for the flinch t have any chance. your guy had his hands by his sides.

[@XgiannettoX]

in this confrontaion he is to near to you, and he doesn't have the arms up. look at the videos from Tony Blauer

[@davidvoneschen6915]

Did you know Chuck Norris said he taught Bruce Lee the high kick? Lol

[@evanhernandez9324]

He’s a liar

[@doctormcgoveran2194]

if I was arguing with you I would not have my hands at my sides. you look lightening quick.the flinch is useful to buy you a second to figure out you are being attacked. not in a probable street feet argue escalation scene, more like you step past a car and pitbull is coming at you.turn yell block then strike.

[@thejoojoo9999]

I don’t really understand your argument. The first thing you say is : look, I’m too fast for the flinch response. But if the attack is too fast for the flinch response, it’s probably too fast for any other technique or whatever else that you propose. The second thing you say is : but what if the other guy has any notion of flow ? He’s gonna pass through your defense, overwhelm and destroy you. Again, that would also apply to any sort of defensive technique : if he knows what he’s doing, he may burst through your defense. So are you saying for that second point that one should attack instead of defend ? That’s a valid point, but I guess one could train to transform the flinch in an attack. I’m not a defender of the “flinch response” philosophy, it’s simply that I don’t really understand how your arguments relate to the flinch response ? What is your solution ? If I saw it, maybe I would understand your point.

[@adamchankungfu]

1 i was not going full speed not trying to prove anything is too fast. The point is - to counter anything, distance , set ups of timing is a must..... close range flinching is unreliable against anyone who have actually spent time really training punching a lot . Even the greats like Ali, Bruce , Roy Jones can counter when its long range etc etc etc BUT they all get hit at close range a lot by much slower fighters WHEN THEY ARE ALREADY COVERING even when they know its coming, so how can one flinch on time from a " non threatening position? No amount of marketing can change that 2 The notion of "simply" turning the flinch into a attack is unreliable against flow, The counter to that is to flow better - training , hard work , no short cut . Who ever have the best tactile reflex aka flow wins, flinch is the opposite of flow, its freezing by nature, thats why its at a disadvantage.... if one guy flows the other freezes for a second, the result is obvious, its has nothing to do with physical speed. 3 The reason I do these clips is not to give away what I practice or propose on the internet for strangers, I show that to trusted friends and students. My objective is to get people to think , even a little , even if for a second then i feel it have serve its purpose. The idea of stopping oneself from bragging, stop arguing, stop assuming and humbly sitting back and THINK and questioning popular concepts from marketing is a lost concept - it has help me a great deal. This is why I film hopefully to get people to trash talk less and think more - question things instead. Often the result of my intention is the opposite, people just go back to the usual debating, trash talking what not and thats why I no longer see the point of filming much. (not implying you)

[@Andrewcch74]

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[@gerald47semg65]

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