USPS CCA vs RCA Which one is for you??

[@stephendacey8761]

In 27 years, as a letter carrier, I've been bit by dogs, stung by bees, attacked by Mockingbirds, slapped by a mentally challenged girl, broke my ankle twice, been in a car accident in both my car and a postal vehicle (not my fault), had plantar's foot, had many customers scream at me for little things, screwed up my knee, worked in blazing 98 degree weather, delivered in blizzards, hurricanes, and darkness, and a few other minor things. Now, at 59, I'm ready to call it quits. Too many changes to a banged up body to keep going.

[@sandramontoya1463]

I give you so much respect I just started already fell twisted my ankle and there on me to go faster be faster I'm still in my 90 day's so we will see how it goes

[@stephendacey8761]

@@sandramontoya1463 Thank you, Sandra. That was very thoughtful to make that comment. The Postal Service has changed a lot since when I started in 1994. Unfortunately, everything from wages to workload have gone down hill. When I started there was no internet or Amazon. There were more letters, but w/ Amazon the job is more like UPS. Packages are the revenue maker, today. Also, automation extended the routes by downsizing the number of routes which made the routes much longer. Hell, there were no scanners when I started, and the routes were easier. I'm sorry to hear you injured your ankle. If the job was like it is today back in 1994, I would of quit, but it didn't get real bad until towards the end of my career. Best of luck, Sandra. Whether you grind it out there and hope it gets better or seek other employment, I wish you the best of luck.

[@lovely31bluprint]

My apologies this is funny 😄 😆 🤣

[@Thetimeisntcomingback]

I thought about CCA but then went RCA here in AZ cause when I applied I never knew there were two different types of carrier positions. I enjoy being an RCA a ton honestly. Most of our routes are cbus and mounted..still though, things are rural and a ton of long drive ways. So, you wouldn’t expect it, but I walk a ton. I’ve lost a ton of weight. Anyway, we’re both doing the same thing and we’re all serving the American public

[@adventuresofadan5037]

@ Aiden I would’ve stayed RCA man at the first station if I would’ve had a vehicle during the holiday season man. But made the switch over due to the pov situation. True man keep up the good work soon we will be regulars that’s the main goal.

[@moniqueaftertrucking]

Do they for your gas as a rural carrier?

[@randyduyck6254]

It's also good to know your city's streets. And when you step into the case cold turkey, you know how it delivers. Worked a lot of zip codes as an rca! Got a lot of work.

[@adventuresofadan5037]

Nice that is true. I’ve gone in cases trying to case but you definitely start sweat bullets when you don’t know nothing and get out late to the streets. Thankfully I always had other RCA’s come help case

[@segujjarobert8598]

Thanks a lot for the tips and advise. I'm impressed with your experience and knowledge.

[@chantaym5065]

Shoot I get in 25,000 steps in daily. I walk tons as a RCA. I do love my relaxed uniform. We have enough LLVs so we dont need to use our cars. I've moved up seniority fast too. Also the more routes you learn the more time you get. I've been working tons personally. I don't get how you CCAs live at work long ass hours. In a yr I've only been out at 9pm 3x. But like you stated every area is different. Regardless of our title we are all family. Over Xmas my longest stretch was 16 dys lol With so many out with covid/vacation we are coming in at 6am helping with parcels then starting our routes early. Since we help with parcels thats extra pay, our if we go out and rescue our coworkers that again is separate/added pay. Our office is rural but not really country with so many developments being built. Monday was brutal lol. Thanks for sharing your pros and cons 🙂

[@adventuresofadan5037]

That is true. If you ask me I think they should get rid of both crafts and make one just so it’s equal and we are never short to cover routes. That’s a lot of steps is that a regular day on a route you know or because parcels have picked up

[@chantaym5065]

Those are regular steps from wake up to going home. I take parcels to the door if they can't fit in cluster box, not all of them have working parcels lockers. I honestly didn't know between the 2 crafts there was a big difference. I was so active before I started here and now it's cut back more due to just that time sitting driving or between stops. Also I'd a court has to many cars I try to park and walk it. Unfortunately not getting paid for those steps due to evaluated route. But it saves me from trying to maneuver that truck between horrible parking. This week we are down 5 routes and 2 subs. Yesterday I did my round 2 splits 🤦🏽‍♀️ Tired is a understatement lol

[@caylee3277]

Hey so why does the CCA get uniforms and benefits but the RCA don't??? Is RCA just a temporary job and CCA are permanent?? I took my fingerprints on April 19th and today is May 10th I haven't heard anything back yet do you know how long the background takes? Also I choose RCA because that's all I seen in our area, please give some info thank you

[@chantaym5065]

@@caylee3277 rca you can wear whatever you want. Im on my 1st yr and 2nd in seniority already starting at 11

[@caylee3277]

@@chantaym5065 what does that mean 2nd in seniority, is the job only temporary for years until you can move up and why do CCA get benefits but RCA don't?

[@richisteeful]

Thanks bro this really helped me out. I’m trying to decide which one I wanna do.

[@adventuresofadan5037]

Yeah bro I wish the post office put out more information about the jobs. But I’m glad it helps you out but it’s a grind

[@richisteeful]

@@adventuresofadan5037 yeah it’s so vague I was offer an RCA position and they have a CCA position I can apply for too Again thanks this has cleared everything up for me now

[@rdatoni]

New contracts came in and RCAs have more perks now!

[@VictoriaBee1]

This was a SUPER HELP FULL VIDEO THANK YOU SO MUCH‼️‼️

[@Zack-vi4ih]

This week has been terrible almost every day I've worked 16 hours a day, I've honestly thought about finding something different because I don't get to see my family hardly at all. Money isn't everything... I'm kind of torn between switching and not because it's a good job but you will never see your family or loved ones. The only thing for me is finding something that pays as well, I don't mind working but I like to see my family.

[@adventuresofadan5037]

I feel that man. It pays at the end but also depends how far down are you in seniority and how much movement is in your station

[@jayquan17ify]

Switch to ARC

[@Zack-vi4ih]

@@jayquan17ifymy station doesn’t have that, the one Arc we do have works more than me lmao. The only reason he is Arc is because he retired but still wanted to work

[@jayquan17ify]

@@Zack-vi4ih danm lol

[@jayquan17ify]

@@Zack-vi4ih I doubt he's working 16 hours a day though

[@Ji-vh9vb]

Good video 👍

[@donpham93]

Thank you so much for your video. Can you tell me that for RCA if you use your personal vehicle, do they pay you for gas / maintenance?

[@roblav23]

If you are from a smaller town and thinking about applying for a CCA job go to the post office and ask how many city routes there are and how many CCAs are there. Cause if there’s a full staff and the regulars are younger, you're not gonna get very many hours.

[@SecretCaskets]

Thanks for the videos- you seem like a nice guy

[@adventuresofadan5037]

I appreciate that!

[@Pollix780]

One big con for RCA is that not everyone has the resources for a POV postal vehicle to start with on the get-go. And there isn't a lotta help for it. It's answered with, "It's always been that way" sorta half ass answer

[@TammyJ7628]

Thank you ❤

[@adventuresofadan5037]

No problem

[@s_kan5885]

I think USPS just needs to install ACs in their trucks and workers will be more productive and less stressed out

[@jordangoat2654]

They have 50 thousand new redesign trucks with AC rolling out soon

[@s_kan5885]

@@jordangoat2654 that’s gonna be a HUGE game changer!!! 👍🏽

[@nickpickle3950]

Neither, don’t waste your time at usps, they are understaffed, I worked as a cca for a full year and it was good pay but I barely had anytime to do anything with my family & life, 7 days a week they will work you sometimes no break until 25-30 days, 5 degree weather home at 9pm every night because they’d give us 2 pivots on top of our route, everything is outdated, supervisors are horrible they fucking hate their lives, (no joke). The one thing I noticed at usps was that everyone was so fucking miserable lol after I resigned it was the best feeling of relief. Respect to new cca’s still hanging in there because usps will lie to every new cca and rca in orientation, they are so desperate for help. Find something you love to do, don’t waste your time here unless you really want this to be your life… seriously don’t let this turn into your life.

[@Freedom_flower1]

Couldn’t agree more

[@jordangoat2654]

You are 1000% correct. Exactly how I felt about being an RCA. I’m in the process of trying CCA but I’m sure it’s the same BS

[@Will23159]

@@jordangoat2654 I just resigned as a cca in December I felt so relieved it’s not a hard job BUT the management and the days in a row you work are horrible I’ve worked 2 weeks in a row with no off days before

[@GuciTheBulldog1]

What should be expected at "fingerprints and pre.hire discussion" ?? Obviously fingerprints will be taken but I was looking for some input about what exactly is pre hire discussion about, is it an interview, any input would be great!! Thanks in advance

[@codyhutchison2992]

Great video, Adan! I just received conditional offers for both CCA and RCA for the town in which I live. It is a pretty small town (around 4,000 people). I am on the fence as to which one to accept. Do you know anything about the benefits of CCA vs RCA as it pertains to Insurance, vacation time, sick leave, holiday pay, things of that nature? Also, do you know which position is faster to becoming a career employee? I worry a little about having to use my POV as an RCA because I don't want to put the wear and tear on it. Any knowledge you could give me would be greatly appreciated!

[@adventuresofadan5037]

Yeah man. As a CCA you do accumulate Annual leave(vacation time) compared to RCA you don’t. You don’t get sick leave for either also. But I do also know the RCA contact should be getting updated soon too. As for benefits I’ve only had them as a cca they been good thus far. But your in a tricky situation because depending how fast your town is growing will also depend how fast you move up. Because you don’t know which side is growing like in my town I live in a town of 90-100,000 but all the routes are now going to RCA sides because the way the boxed in the city

[@adventuresofadan5037]

I would try to ask one of the carrier in your town which side is growing as for career. When I started I looked for a carrier to find out just remember if they are in normal clothes that’s a RCA if they are in the uniform that is a city carrier

[@caylee3277]

@@adventuresofadan5037 wait huh???? Why do CCA get benefits but RCA don't??? What's that all about

[@BrotherAlan]

@@caylee3277 CCA union works really hard for them Ive heard that the RCA union, not so much thus the disparity.

[@MibuTempest]

thank you

[@j.c.9133]

I'm looking into becoming an RCA. Everyone's telling me that when you first start you might only get 1 day a week or you might over 40 hours a week? I don't know how accurate that is... What is the process for applying and getting hired and what is it like for the first while that you are working? I tired messaging other RCA's and CCA's but no one has responded.

[@MikeRawlingsProductions]

It all depends on your office needs. At first it’s seems like a lot but gets better !

[@santiagosantarge819]

What happened

[@johncoombe8293]

Dude, Nice job sticking with the key points.

[@craigc1879]

No new updates, are you still working? It’s been a year now?

[@blast.9805]

RCA sounds nice, but i live in Philly and I HATE driving around here, i think i’m choosing CCA, that exercise is going to be good for my body

[@William14094]

How difficult is it to switch to CCA after being hired as an RCA? I just got a job offer as an RCA. Wondering if I should accept in the hopes I can make the switch. I love walking. And don’t want to use my personal vehicle!

[@jordangoat2654]

You can switch. Just re-apply and they both use the same exam but you would have to go back to Academy cause CCA and RCA have different academy

[@lovely31bluprint]

I have a question I took the test for PSE and passed. I have filed an application for RCA and CCA, I haven’t received a notification for the to take the test. The supervisor contacted me via telephone because I explained my situation by via email. Well, the supervisor told me to come to the post office to get me started to do fingerprints. What is your suggestion go for it or wait?

[@sandramontoya1463]

I think your offically igniciated when you cry after the longest route and u fall twist your ankle and you throw up ....🤕 Don't know how the carrier keep going but I say if they can do I can do it

[@TripleH409]

Did the background check take awhile? Tomorrow will be 2 weeks for Me

[@user-fx7tq8et9q]

Yes it should take 10 to 12 days depending on the need

[@maehill6364]

Does those trucks have air conditioning?

[@gabydt8769]

How many hours do you need to qualify for benefits?

[@jmer3536]

CCA makes more money than any RCA due to the overtime per day. Both positions you will be working a lot and going back out to cover down routes on a daily basis. You make PTF then career way faster in CCA vs RCA. Less earned benefits in RCA vs CCA. I know of several stations with CCA that use Vans unlike RCA which is almost exclusively LLV. Career City vs Career Rural is a toss up. You have evaluated time for Rural but its basically salary pay. Yeah you can finish your route in less time, but No extra money unless overtime is approved and you actually want that. City carriers still get overtime pay. The City side has a uniform and the RCA is you buy your own clothes. I personally wouldnt recommend either position unless you are young and have or want to have no life. If you are older and have a family then CCA and RCA will be your life as well. This is not including the over burdened routes and what station you work with etc on top of that This is a simplified basic explanation of how these jobs actually work

[@nataleeolson3650]

PTF and UAR are two completely different things. As a PTF you still are at the mercy of the hours available within the office. They are no different hour wise as a CCA. It is just a career position other then a non career. A URA is guaranteed 40 hours a week just not assigned to a specific route.

[@dereknowak6774]

You nailed it! 👏

[@shara8666]

I applied for CCA and they ask me to get my fingerprints taken. It’s 50mins to drive there. When I went to have my fingerprints taken, I saw an AD on the hall wall for USPS of my town but only RCA for me. So I applied the RCA in my town. I don’t know how long it will be take till I can be an employee.

[@dariuswright4856]

I got hired for rca I want too work a lot of hours my post office told me I could be working 5 too 4 days and she told me I’m on salary and hourly and she told me that I don’t have too use my car it’s up to me if I wanted too and they pay for the miles I’m nervous I keep hearing the bad sides of it

[@djdoublemm5267]

How did you go from RCA to CCA? quit and reapply, or is a transfer possible?

[@adventuresofadan5037]

I had placed like 5 apps in but I did need to quit the RCA position they wouldn’t let me transfer over to cca. The post master called me for cca position & was wondering if I was going to hit accept on the cca position.

[@kentuckyproproductions1624]

USPS is a big boy job. You’ve got two years of hell as a cca and after that you’re set for life. Don’t give up on the possibility of retirement because you can’t hand out with your friends for a year or two

[@Ink30]

Facts

[@Ink30]

Facts

[@mariorios3361]

Im in Dallas and applying. Which do you recommend for more work and better pay? Rca and cca?

[@mariorios3361]

And which one will get route faster for a career?

[@adventuresofadan5037]

That depends man but I think in the bigger cities they are hiring on as ptf you basically get the benefits of get your tsp (401k),pension, health benefits. I wouldn’t know how long it would be to get a route depends on retirement & if any carriers transfer

[@richsnake3145]

can someone answer me ima a current mha switched from cca trying to get back into being a cca again and i was sent a accept/decline offer i accepted it of course but they sent the naci info thing and i missed the 3 calendar day mark but my info is still the same and is still in there my ein and everything would they still accept me or would i have to do it over again ?? can someone answer me please

[@g1llifer]

I enjoy working as a CCA but hate working every 7 days weeks and never getting weekends off. Are these about the usual hours for a CCA or is my office just screwing me?

[@joenuke100]

Has it gotten better

[@g1llifer]

@@joenuke100 no it didn't I quit, unless your ok working as a slave for usps stay away from them. There's a reason they're always hiring.

[@rightstuff368]

Do CCA’s carry mostly mail and RCA’s more packages?

[@fishjuice3987]

Yes

[@annskaggs4475]

In CA rural carriers make more than cca

[@jayquan17ify]

What about the ARC?

[@adventuresofadan5037]

I don’t know too much info on that position. I think it’s one day a week right

[@jayquan17ify]

@@adventuresofadan5037 yeah I heard they have to work Sunday and the other days are optional.

[@TripleH409]

Do they compensate you for using your own vehicle?

[@calliethompson2932]

Yep. 92 cents per mile.

[@brianmontalvo3006]

whats good man, question about RCA..if you use your own vehicle do they reimburse your gas or provide you with a gas card?

[@adventuresofadan5037]

Yeah man. They should give you a card for the most part but you do keep track of your mileage

[@brianmontalvo3006]

@@adventuresofadan5037 ok cool thanks, now i see RCA is "non-career," what does that mean?

[@adventuresofadan5037]

So that is basically saying you are not placing into things like your 401k you don’t accumulate sick leave or annual leave man. These are small examples man once you are career you start to accumulate these things, that is once you either become a ptf or get your own route

[@brianmontalvo3006]

@@adventuresofadan5037 ahh okay, gotcha. Appreciate the clarification

[@norsethehorse8179]

@@brianmontalvo3006 though a new contract could be getting passed, RCAs will start accumulating paid time off.

[@caylee3277]

Here in NC CCA makes $18.56 and the RCA make $19.06 but why do CCA get uniforms and benefits but RCA don't? Is RCA only a temporary position and CCA is permanent??? All I had in my area was RCA positions so I accepted that job and I took fingerprints for it on April 19th and today is May 10th I haven't heard anything back from them yet do you know how far the background checks go and how long the process takes until I get my orientation? Thank you

[@TayTheAnointedOne]

any update?

[@caylee3277]

@@TayTheAnointedOne it took awhile, but I got in

[@TayTheAnointedOne]

@@caylee3277 im in NC too. What part of NC you in? I just applied today for sandford..im prior military. I was hoping to get in within next month 😅😅😅

[@caylee3277]

@@TayTheAnointedOne your right around the corner I'm in Apex 💯

[@caylee3277]

@@TayTheAnointedOne you will they are doing a lot of hiring because the holidays are coming did you apply for an RCA? Id imagine in Sanford definitely an RCA

[@RebeccaCoup86]

Stop banging 😂

[@chris123achris]

How many hours a week do you start off with as an RCA and how many hours a week do you start off with as an CCA?

[@adventuresofadan5037]

I remember as an RCA I was only guaranteed 1 day a week but I worked all the time man because so many call outs. As a CCA it depends too man but I worked 60+ a week for my first year. But I was the only cca for 7-8 months. As a CCA/RCA it’s either feast or famine man you either have too much hours or not enough depends on your station

[@chris123achris]

@@adventuresofadan5037 Why is it taking so long for my orientation? Should i be concerned? I accepted the CCA job 2 months ago but i still keep seeing "IN PROGRESS".

[@priscillalittle2936]

What is the position is a Rual Carr Associate/Reg Rte? Is this considered a full time position meaning regular?

[@adventuresofadan5037]

Unfortunately no it’s still non career. RCA is still under that title assistant or associate

[@juanalvarez8836]

Yo hit me up homie I got some questions about RCA BRO GRACIAS

[@adventuresofadan5037]

What’s good brother??

[@juanalvarez8836]

So I’m about to take a rca position how exactly does it pay bro like I know it’s whatever the routes estimate time But like does that also include casing the mail and then also how much is the gas & car maintenance.

[@adventuresofadan5037]

Yeah man so it’s 19.06 starting pay then times that by how much the route is evaluated at. For example 19.06 x 9 hours that’s also including casing the mail and that will be your pay. Also I think the RCAs are getting a new contract soon. As for using your POV all that you put into it you can use as a tax write off from gas to maintenance. So your paying for everything you put into your car. But if you use a LLV you don’t have to worry about any of that. Also keep in mind when you finish your route they may have you do pieces of other routes but I can’t remember if you go straight to hourly time after that. But I would ask in the academy about that man. Hope this helps bro

[@juanalvarez8836]

@@adventuresofadan5037 but what’s the pay for gas and maintenance. Like is enough to cover and do I get that even if I use there llv. They give me 45 working days to get my own pov There so slammed they say there’s mad hours but still haven’t gotten my start date. So just wana know what I’m getting into

[@juanalvarez8836]

Ohhh and also what do ya recommend as far as a cca or rca so I just checked same location now is hiring for cca. I mean my girl is a pse there but she soo busy she can’t get info for me lol. But yea. I mean what’s more money feel me. I be in Tennessee murfesborro. And it’s sooooo busy From what they say 🤞🏾

[@lonewolf315]

City carriers have a better union

[@barbaratyrrell3185]

None people start emailing your cards and pay your bills on line j

[@Jen-qt6eg]

Isn't it a conflict of interest, what company has its own union, paying their own employees to represent union members paying monthly $60 union dues, gaining no money for winning grievances, when you can, for free, file an EEO within 45 days of Usps offenses, winning up to $300,000. for discrimination and up to $4 million for retaliation? Usps union is complicit with Usps management, practicing patterns of racism, retaliation against whistleblowers, also discrimination and retaliation against injured on duty disabled employees! See McConnell vs Usps, Pittman vs Usps, Glover vs Usps, and many, many more cases for decades! Past 5 years Usps paid out $5,631,795. for sexual harassment. Exercise your legal rights under federal protection Laws, No Fear act of 2002, prohibited personnel practices, due process, equality act of 2010, civil rights act chapter of 7, rehabilitation act of 1973 (504), and disability act. CYA!!! Don't be duped into paying $60 monthly union dues, × 12 = $720 annually, × a 30 year career = $21,600.