USS Mississippi - Best Pen, Worst Reload [War Thunder]

Some ships are meant to be loved but this ship in particular makes it really difficult most of the time.
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[@Geniusinventor]

I played Uss Mississippi many times, i found problems with that are: 1, the Ap shells are like Big apcrs. 2, its very easy to ammo rack. 3, its Hall breaks very easily By HE shells and it sinks. 4, its very Hard to Turn. 5, its a thick Boi can be seen from far away, but thats true for any battle ship. 6, Turret Rotation speed is Godly slow. One thing is thats good you will face More uss Mississippis so you can gets kills, Attack the D point.

[@tony-zp1uq]

I still prefer Alaska, for me its best ship.. im hyped for another Heavy cruisers

[@jPlanerv2]

Hmm for me i never got ammo racked in this thing, majority of my deaths was just crew loss or getting bombed

[@Thelogboss]

@@jPlanerv2you only really get ammo racked by other uss Mississippi’s

[@Iden_in_the_Rain]

So essentially it’s just a bigger Tier IV cruiser lol?

[@user-bq5rp9mj6q]

The engine gets knocked out quickly from my experience and HE is very effective against this ship it also sinks pretty quickly

[@captainmcswagga944]

You sank me battleship at 2:38 lol

[@wildward93]

110 years later, and Midvale's obsession with shells and armor still shows through

[@unluckyalf2007]

Been waiting to hear your opinion on this. Thanks. Ive been really enjoying the Mississippi

[@nikodemborowski796]

If you turn it right you dont get ammo rack so easy guys ..dont sail straight forward to the enemy, especiallly when they shoot at you. I Grinded this event vehicle to have some good ship to grind naval in event so for me its great , always doing good score.

[@scharnhorstenjoyer1936]

My experience with its was pretty much the same. While i LOVE its design, enormes deck plating and the fact it has over 700mm of pen (which is a first) it really lacks in effectiveness. The APHE feels more like APCR most of the time and its really painful just scoring those minor hits constantly. And with those bad angles its given i usually look twice who i start targeting because ammo racks were my main fatality most the times. Also fire is so dangerous too and either kills the crew in seconds or detonates you if you dont react fast enough. But i gotta say its really fun in customs just bc of its survivability against bombs. The stuff that ship can take is breathtaking

[@John_McCarthy1]

I know I'm kinda late to comment this, but I feel like this was a missed opportunity to have her in the game as she was when she was converted into a training ship, USS Mississippi AG-128. As a training ship she had a bunch of different weapons, a 6"/47 Mark 16 DP turret which is seen on the Worcester class, multiple different 5" gun mounts, and a terrier missile launcher aft. This ship in this configuration would be very unique, whereas she is now, the USS Mississippi is just a standard BB.

[@ricolives1166]

I really, really like Mississippi. He does ALOT of damage. AP is almost guaranteed to break stuff instantly but the AP does no post pen damage to the crew

[@TomPrickVixen]

Still hardly anyone did a video of this, of the 4 event rewards; despite its not a copy/paste top ship for once! Aaaand ATM the best BB in the US tree anyway... I hope we get the rebuilt "USS West Virginia" soon. I don't want any more BBs in their pre-war configuration just to be another decoration in the game, do for being useless as built.

[@kkang2828]

Most of the (smaller) naval CCs have all covered her already though. Even Dollarplays did.

[@TomPrickVixen]

@@kkang2828 Yea i don't watch the smaller naval based CCs, despite i play a lot of naval. Still even from the main CCs that play naval (too sometimes) not a popular vehicle to show.

[@kkang2828]

@@TomPrickVixen Well all the big guys, aside from Dollar, just don’t care about naval that much. It doesn’t generate as much views as ground and air. It’s the sad truth.

[@jPlanerv2]

Its my favorite US bb so far, it has same reload as any other US bb so im used to this. The high penetration of AP shells is very helpful and gun accuracy was not a problem in slightest for me. Survivability is ok as it has strongest armor profile for US BBs so far, but it has same problems Nevada and Arizona have so its easy to set her on fire thx to shit ton of AA and 127mm ammo racks and elevators on supersturcture. I never got ammo racked while playing her so far and I run 600 AP shells every game

[@Klaus_Klavier]

I run 1k and don’t have any issues being racked either ngl and her shells always strike deep and hard for me, guess naval peeps need to learn to aim

[@Sigmagnat650]

Reporting in (again) after some more of my own personal testing with the ship. I kept having issues hitting people, shells falling short, etc. Then I started looking at all the stat cards for shells on ships I regularly use. For larger guns, the 14s on Mississippi have considerably more velocity than I'm used to. Once you dial in that you need to aim higher than you're used to (compared to say a IJN BB), it's just one tap after one tap after one tap.

[@Napalmratte]

Interesting...

[@Sigmagnat650]

@@Napalmratte ya, if I aimed that high with any of my IJN BB's I'd have rounds sailing over the target for sure. Had a game where I ammo racked a Mississippi, Arkansas, and two Des Moines- each with a single salvo. But, we won't count the last two for... reasons 🤣

[@kahy026]

ty for this video and ty for your time 😁

[@AsphaltCowboyUSA]

It gets too easily ammo wrecked, even though I’m also using half the Ammo. It’s disgusting to get ammo wrecked with a 100% crew. That happens too often.

[@Klaus_Klavier]

Idk this thing slaps for me, never had more fun in a ship, just gotta aim at the enemy’s first turret and you’ll blow him sky high every time it’s great

[@humanitymustperish]

I´m a pretty decent player, but I don´t know why but I´m too stupid to ammorack Mr.&Mrs. Sippi reliably. I´m aiming below waterline, below A Turret, B Turret, the magazines at stern, but even with Kronshtadt

[@roo1871]

You're claiming to have killed Mississippi with a Moffet?

[@humanitymustperish]

@@roo1871 yes. The same game I've killed a Kronshtadt with Moffett. I had no HE shells left as I got sunk finally. Did about 7k damage in 7.0 with the shit moffett, wanted to drive DM but was open water map, no sane person drives Des Moines in Uptier without map cover lel

[@grimmace1834]

You should do a video of the RN Aquila 152mm DD guns are a lot of fun.

[@Sigmagnat650]

Gaijin has to have artificially tweaked the dispersion on the main guns- I don't know of any other ship in the game with anything bigger than 12" guns that shotgun as much as the Mississippi.

[@blanchbacker]

Yeah they feel stupidly inaccurate in terms of spread per shot

[@cold_raptor]

They also tweaked the Penetration. In mutsu for example hast waaaaaay too much Penetration.

[@Deviss2]

Nice video napalm!

[@YamatoPower9000]

Managed to sink it on north dakota 1vs1 on like 6000yards. Way to easy to ammo rack.

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

They need to rework hulls in this game because fragging the upper decks over and over does not create unrepairable breaches or induce flooding. The all or nothing armor scheme was literally designed to keep what’s necessary for combat working and the ship floating no matter what. Like seriously one permanent breach on this ship can kill you. If just one section of the ship floods it is basically screwed because gaijin doesn’t accurately separate upper and lower decks or model the different compartments.

[@Napalmratte]

I See what Gaijin tries but it is Not good for the gameplay nor realism

[@mattin5850]

these long 16inch have save dispersion as the shorter ones

[@shawnpenney8346]

Yay uss Mississippi

[@Klaus_Klavier]

Honestly if you’re brawling with this no wonder you’re being clapped…I engage 8km+ and the accuracy of the FCS and guns works for me amazingly

[@PatrickMasonBurke]

Gaijan nerfs us stuff cause bias

[@user-bq5rp9mj6q]

Whats your opinion on the new battle pass vehicles?

[@zwang7050]

Hi Napalm, why do you think Gaijin gives US BB dreadful reloads? I mean 40s with ace crew is plainly unacceptable, the reload jumps to over a min if you are doing multiple kinds of damage control. Was historically like this or do you think they did it nasty for some kind of balance reason?

[@Rum_cola]

does anyone else hear a hum the whole time in the background?

[@Napalmratte]

Yeah, I really tried to wipe it out but there is some interference I cannot get rid of

[@WigSplitters]

@@Napalmratte dw its not a deal breaker, nice vid

[@Knels11]

hey @Napalmratte, i just came across your 2k vehicle video.. i was curious if you would do an update video to that now that its years later with more stuff out.

[@Napalmratte]

Well I really stopped grinding planes and tanks tbh. It is more but I wait a bit more before I make another vehicle number based vid 🤔 But thx for mentioning it

[@M65V19]

Déjà vu. Long time ago you did video about sverdlov (or jelaznikov) and you question adecvatedety of 175mm turret face armour. At those times we didn't had in game anything wich can reliably pen it, but I supposed that something capable will be added later. I think we really at same situation here. But I have a question this time. If Mississippi reloads for so long then how long will be reload of future even bigger calibers? 40 sec already is not fun, dunno will be 60 or 80.

[@Napalmratte]

Well WE have bigger calibet in Game already. Hood 30 sec for 381 mm and Bayern/Sachsen around 26 sec for 380 mm... 🤔

[@M65V19]

@@Napalmratte I don't know why it is 40 secs then. Maybe just balancing factor or maybe irl more propellant charges need to be loaded or different lock. Will we get 406 and 410?

[@FlyMysticalDJ]

The explanation is the turret on this generation of US battleship was very narrow and there was not much room for the crew to operate, also there is 3 guns and only 2 hoists/elevators for shells.

[@roo1871]

@@M65V19 If balancing is the factor, explain how reload time is calculated for ships in game which were never actually built, and also are nearly unkillable...

[@kkang2828]

@@M65V19 In-game naval reloads are based on historical documents. The US standard battleships all had relatively slow reloads IRL, that’s all. Their fast battleships and their newer 16” guns will have 30s reloads, don’t worry. The slowest reload you’ll ever see on a naval gun in-game would be 45s on the Littorio class’s 15” guns. Even Yamato’s 18.1” guns will have 30s reloads. The real problem with increasing caliber in-game is dispersion. It increases with caliber, which is not totally accurate. In-game 15” guns already suffer from excessive dispersion, and if this continues, 16” and 18.1” guns will be even more inaccurate. This is far from historical reality.

[@FlyMysticalDJ]

You didn’t mention the best part, the almost unarmored bridge

[@brendanharvey3583]

Hey, im just wondering, in the future, what line would you think the iowa class would be in? I'm not sure if it would be in the Arizona or Nevada

[@Napalmratte]

Pure guesswork Here. Also could be an entire seperate Line. No Idea how Gaijin thinks they can milk the playerbase best

[@cold_raptor]

Dont think theyll add it at all. The Iowa would tear apart basically anything apart from yamato or vanguard...

[@Napalmratte]

@@cold_raptor Iowa would be basically detonated by heavy Cruiser fire. Why? Unarmoured secondaries Magazine....

[@cold_raptor]

@@Napalmratte i'm Just gonna Press X for doubt. An Explosion of the secondary Magazine is Not going to Blow Up a ship. Unless you Go into brawling (where for example Bismarck would Shine) your'e gonna wreck havock. Mind you, the Iowa is Like fifteenthousand tons heavier than for example the KGV. It Just wouldnt be a fair fight. Unless they make the turtleback Armor absolutely overpowered, Bismarck ( i assume they add her If they add Iowa)is going to absolutely suffer. Iowa is better protected, more heavily armed and faster aswell as more accurate than the Ships of most other nations.

[@Napalmratte]

@@cold_raptor the 'Gaijin truth' will show in the waves in WT. Oh so so many vessels have been hyped and were then just one of many

[@woahdude3853]

All that work just get a junk ship

[@TomPrickVixen]

Even ot the 1st day on the market, this was and still is the most expensive of the 3 rewards, despite it was the easiest to unlock; all u needed was a high rank costal ship, just spawn in it once and besides that u could play what ever u good with. Like the lowest rank 5 costal is only 3.3, and if u could get enough points to spawn in a bomber later in naval AB, u could farm on low rank DDs for the rest of the battle. Or just be an absolute cheater asshole and get the SKR-7 and play only on 4.3 like a spineless jerk (like most players are anyway), and u make 4k-7k mission points / game.

[@kkang2828]

You see, most people are too stupid to figure that out, or don't care about naval at all(not even to just sell the rewards).

[@Thelogboss]

I used the uss Newport News as it actually was pretty fun to grind the event with

[@TomPrickVixen]

@@Thelogboss I would not dare to play any 6.3 cruiser cuz if i'd want to fight with BBs I'd play a BB + 99% i'd end up on 7.0 anyway, so i hardly ever use the Newport + I'm only missing 3 of the rank 6 ships from the US tree (and got everything from its costal tree). I used mostly German and the British ships, do they have some strong high rank costal ships with boat spawn to start, and good CAS planes, and I trolled SKR players with my 2 "Kőln class" frigates.

[@williamurbanblackiii1729]

I have 50 deaths and 186 kills in the Mississippi. Only a 46 percent win rate, but it's done really well for me

[@Napalmratte]

Hmm interesting. Thx for sharing

[@williamurbanblackiii1729]

@@Napalmratte after watching, I realise our playstyles might just be different. I'm able to be patient with the reload since I usually watch KZbin on a second monitor while I play

[@Napalmratte]

@@williamurbanblackiii1729 The problem ist that game mechanics allow the enemy to repair and Return fire even after devastating Hits and every damage you take lasts just so much longer. It is just not fun.

[@williamurbanblackiii1729]

@Napalmratte it's fun for me man, I get it's not meta but still

[@kamendimitrov9390]

@@Napalmratte During my 9 years of play I can safely say that there are a lot of people who are calmer and more patient that dont mind the suffering at all and even find it fun and challenging, no matter if it is italian or abrams mains, if it is meta, etc. US battleships can be amazing for such people and this is the cherry on top among them so far. Hauptsache es funktioniert.

[@szronar7446]

I am just waiting to see how high its price goes and then I am dumping it.

[@roo1871]

It's at 60ish now

[@Sento..]

Just bought it for 55€

[@MrNPC]

If Warthunder Mobile is an indicator, missile ships will come after battleships in blue water fleet tree.

[@cherchezlesoir7166]

Greatings to all those who grinded like hell to get this trash can lol...and on market around 50€..lol.. AND ALL THIS U DID NOT KNOW BEFORE EVENT??? come on

[@HamburgerMolester]

Never waste time grinding for event vehicles.

[@derpkachuchu2974]

Hey man…do you have any vids on how to aim/where to aim for boats? Great vid btw

[@Napalmratte]

I have an aiming guide. Look for the latest one

[@kkang2828]

Stop calling ships “boats” if you’re gonna start seriously playing naval.