uThermal's Dirty Cheeses vs SERRAL & SHOWTIME! (StarCraft 2)

[@emilybjoerk]

Hats off to marcj for bringing entertaining StarCraft, but man Serral was just having none of it 😮

[@PeterBressau]

Yeah agreed, he's a god damn beast

[@silvos8903]

Random cheese is pretty easy to counter when you know that it's the only thing your opponent is going to do.

[@pauldraper1736]

Serral is literally the worst person in the world to cheese

[@zes3813]

wrrr

[@ernimuja6991]

We didn’t get some nice long games tho

[@aeku_69420]

Uthermal's games are always a treat to watch! I love how he is innovating new strategies to potentially introduce more players! Thanks for the excellent casting.

[@zes3813]

wrg

[@juztina7346]

Platinum strategy 😂

[@konradpiszczek8487]

He just done penguin brothers :D

[@Sir_Bucket]

​@@juztina7346Dark manages to win in tournaments with those platinium strategies 🤷

[@awrawrwar]

I wonder if SC2 pros look at their match ups, see uThermal and go "Ah. It's you. Defensive early game it is."

[@LowkoTV]

They definitely do, 100%

[@SnyperMK2000JclL]

For sure. Especially in the top tier of players, playing the PLAYER is fat superior to anything, the match up is meaningless as is the map, same goes for the "meta" strategies... everything goes out the window except the Player themselves. Always counter the Player rather than leaning on the meta, map, match up, etc to get the win.

[@henryviiifake8244]

"Ah, shit... here we go again 😩"

[@zes3813]

wrr

[@walterrichardson]

More uthermal casts pls, these are my favorite!

[@mattmbx5472]

Am sure most SC2 pros are grateful for Uthemal sacrifice to make the game that enjoyable to watch

[@dustinmorrison6315]

To make Serral float over 1,000 resources is nothing short of miraculous for anyone not in the top 100.

[@alexsis1778]

I'm sure by the very end he was positive he had the game in the bag and was more concerned with the actual army control but he does actually break 1,700 resources just before the GG.

[@direghostman]

seeing the cheeses on uthermals channel just destroying opponents, then seeing serral just shut it down so hard is incredible.

[@xilial]

it takes the best pro players to shutdown uthermals cheese, so entertaining

[@emissarygw2264]

Lmao the decoy spire was epic

[@coleboogaart6121]

I love watching UThermal play! So glad he was going up against the world's best!

[@phongminh2588]

The last game strategy is actually really viable. Hope some pro doing this later so we can see more of this

[@matthewh3138]

Uthermal is one of a kind. He is just a ton of fun to watch.

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

Thermy got me back into this game. He’s highly entertaining 😊

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

I lost to a Ghost academy rush the other day, I am not Serral yet

[@AndrewSchweizer]

uThermal is a silly goose made of cheese, never change

[@edesbalazs]

I've seen Uthermal do this on the ladder against 5-6k opponents, but holy crap Serrals response was super clean. Spores popped up so fast under the BCs I didnt even realize where they were coming from

[@nitrousoxide1797]

Wish I could see Uthermal win one of the games, but at least he gave Serral a shake

[@SpeedyBozar]

I gotta give it to you Lowko, you are a smart guy. The mental capacity and layers you are able to work with are impressive. "For the ones of you who are not as confused as you should be." - basically saying that being knowledgable makes a person confused which is true in this case and that's funny. And then also when you competed with Harstem in some show where the question was if two upgraded immortals kill planetary fortress and you voted against yourself in order to higher your chances of winning. Good stuff mate. I don't think you truly understand the math behind it but just the fact that you were able to come up with that strategy is amazing.

[@josearmandovivero408]

Man, as Zerg I have lost many times to mass BC and also to mass ghosts. The combination in that last battle would be my worst nightmare! hahaha

[@paulcato3434]

uThermal and Lowko are the only Stracraft I watch. Lowko on uThermal... I watch twice.

[@BartixShieldsmen]

Uthermal is probably one of those players who pros either love or hate to play with. On one hand you get to practice more unusual situations you wouldn't have in standard macro games, on the other hand who does what Uthermal does

[@thewrongperson676]

Pretty amazing how Serral having the presence of mind to send that follow up scout was entirely the difference between a win and a loss.

[@alexsis1778]

Yep. Rather than his first notice being the BCs appearing and losing drones while his defenses build he instead had about 30 seconds heads up. This meant that he had defenses almost ready to go by the time they arrived

[@carlosvaldez3093]

reasons why I like uthermal is that he plays to entertain lol. i forgot a protoss player (not top tier player but was also in these tournaments) way back 2021 who plays hilarious cheese too. his cheese would get found out but he'd force it and somehow win. sht was hilarious and entertaining lol

[@doomdoomd9368]

Has?

[@Chara-yp6zj]

Perhaps you mean Has yeah

[@ashesofaranea]

could be whitera too

[@matthiasvancauteren3107]

Florencio?

[@knodel2378]

Gotta be Has: the game where he goes 120 Probes pure Immortal production Always Cracks me up

[@yamilabugattas3895]

I think without that excellent scout by Serral (where he saw the BC/Upgrade), things would have been different. Very interesting ideas by Mark.

[@emissarygw2264]

Yeah totally. But also that's one of the things that puts serral above the rest - he always scouts EVERYTHING

[@PeterBressau]

Ahh the sweet sound of your buttery voice giving us some delicious Gouda! Thanks for casting these, allways a pleasure to watch those right after work

[@cristianestrada5381]

Creepy

[@arminhaddadzadeh3396]

You said serral has no idea he's gonna face BCs... I'm pretty sure he has played countless games on ladder vs terrans who go BC rush So while it is true that he did not have vision of the fusion core from the start... he probably knew that losing queens would mean that he would be super vulnerable to BCs, that's why he instantly sends an overseer to confirm if terran is going BCs (but he doesn't bother to delay the starport with overseer's ability for some reason)

[@marshallgarey2913]

I really like where the void ray is at. It's situationally good, so not completely useless, but also not overpowered. I'm glad we are long past the void ray meta.

[@HaploBartow]

One adjustment for uThermal's ghost/BC strategy would probably be to have more than 1 marine defending against overseer scouts. A turret and/or detection tower would also work, though a detection tower in the main base at that point may tip your hand if someone thinks hard about its position and why it's not positioned for more traditional attack groups. If Serral hadn't gotten the scout, he would have no spires building vs 2, soon to be 3 or 4, BCs, also soon to have Yamato. Because he got the scout, he had a hidden/safe spire being built, a sacrificial spire being built (on top of spores and more queens being produced).

[@bjkwolf9578]

Started watching this channel randomly and been obsessed with SC2 again lol. still haven't re downloaded it but man it's great. and after this video I started watching Uthermal. he's fantastic 🎉

[@etistyle96]

if i've won one cent each time i've heard "nobody can do that, but... you know...Serral is Serral", i would have been more than rich .

[@Taznak]

Lowko wisdom: "You've done a lot of damage, but you haven't won the game, right? And that may very well be the most important part" 28:53

[@CMZneu]

It's not even a lot of damage lol, hell they are even and it's against a zerg... and he is up 2 bases

[@jonsolo32]

I love watching my favourite Flying Dutchman.

[@fusionmechanic1]

“Uthermal does not play StarCraft seriously” Uthermal: that depends on your definition of serious 🧐

[@MadMan-7978]

That was pure Masterclass from Serral

[@Willdreynolds870621]

had he left a ghost at home rather than the marine he could have sniped that overseer before it made the scout that ruined the plan

[@kokowoch]

serral was already building spores before he even scouted. he already suspected bc's, lmao

[@HaploBartow]

@@kokowoch you're right, I didn't realize it at first, but I went back and looked, and he started up 3 spore crawlers just before his overseer approached uThermal's main. Just serves to underscore how hard it is to beat god tier players, when they can predict and counter even the unexpected strategies!

[@VvMythWolfvV]

I think if uThermal ever decided to be a serious player again he would be a near unstoppable force.

[@cristianestrada5381]

What?

[@tjclarke4604]

Definitely. His personal challenges with weird builds and thick cheese are definitely entertaining, but you are right, if he was seriously going for the jugular, he'd just wreck everyone.

[@LongTran-wc6xu]

No, I don't think so. Cheese has some build path to follow while big macro games are a lot of little new decisions you have to make every second. He is a great player yes, but you cannot say he will rank even top 5 if playing normal macro.

[@arankoka]

? he was a serious player for years.

[@tjclarke4604]

@@arankoka Which is why he said "again"

[@happinesscompilation5252]

This is about making content. Winning is just an added benefit

[@Spartsou]

that game 2 between Serral and Uthermal was great, lol

[@sals4767]

Coincidentally I was watching your other video where uThermal was cheesing in every game of a tournament, when here is another uThermal cheesing video uploaded lol

[@henryviiifake8244]

Marc is truly blessed by the Cheese-gods, Has and Bly 🤣

[@hamedamerian4599]

Serral is UNFAIR.they should blindfold him in tournaments. he probably has a few eyes on his hands as well.

[@NaZtRdAmUs]

100% going to try ghost rush into BC next time I'm on ladder.

[@TheMythh]

Would Dark see the BCs coming? I feel like he would go for an all in attack when he's caught off guard.

[@kokowoch]

dark mostly spam a lot of queens anyways. the bc strat only works cuz serral only had 4 queens

[@Erebus2075]

4:13 floating 200 min and knowing his 100% all in, yet still don't put down 2 more shield bats to stop the tide. typical protos play and then complain afterward after how p is soo hard compared to, well we will never know bc no protoss ever use their fking resources on static to survive, if they cant micro their way out of it they rather die :P

[@Erebus2075]

4:23 that's 450 shield right there, with 3 shieldbat to reinforce the front you could just keep exchanging until T was forced to go away or lose slowly. but nope, 2 gates that will do very little to prevent his losses here ^^

[@Erebus2075]

4:56 yer who would ever have guessed an anti-light energy based unit would suck vs. armoured high ehp units *rolleyes* and that's another photon or shieldbat price right there... so that makes it what? 5 shieldbats, so 3 on front 2 on main base and who cares about this weak attack.. but no :P

[@Erebus2075]

5:36 lost more than 1k resources and 8 workers on that... soo maybe next time just put down the fking extra 2-4 shields to easy mode safely, instead of trying to micro it away in a losing manner... deserved loss

[@Erebus2075]

11:12 7 probe lost bc he didnt put down 200 min off shield bat which should ALWAYS be there... just stupid

[@lterwan]

Thank you uThermal for this.

[@evilspacemonkeyman]

At this point I’m surprised that folks are surprised when uThermal whips out the hipster Gouda.

[@lamebubblesflysohigh]

uThermal is like Florencio who actually knows what he is doing :D

[@Ellwinz]

Thermal, By far the best streamer

[@JG-ti7id]

as always ty for your hard work and dedication!!! glhf fam

[@glados4765]

Was that reaper range nerf bug inside a bunker after the last patch ever fixed?

[@mangamer2818]

will there be more highlight videos?

[@heribertfassbender5759]

Lowko “That's nice and all” TV

[@dwightmills9773]

Uthermal is by far my favorite SC2 streamer but damn Serral is good.

[@justinmagee2203]

11:45 wtf did you say?!? Hahaha second froxy fractory??? Hahahaha

[@VIGK24]

Game 1 vs Serral looked like me when I try to cheese the Comp and get destroyed

[@heyitstvmen]

a new lowkotv vid

[@WoA596]

'That's Nicenall' sounds like a pharmaceutical. Maybe it makes you cheesy.

[@hiddentruth1982]

it would have been better to wait till 4 bc's to jump them in. bc's are pretty good but they are stronger in bigger numbers. 3 starports would have worked really well. It's a slower start up build but works faster in the long run. you can huddle on 2 bases and do it.

[@arankoka]

always scouted, and mass corruptors rdy , while early BC no corruptors ready. fun would be viking-marauder after gettng the fusion core scouted by purpose. imagine 10 useless corruptors when 6 vikings hit the deck, helping the marauders vs the roaches

[@silasbrown3724]

Uthermal is by far my favorite player right now

[@georgeslaughter3543]

for those that dont know uthermal he doesnt play for win. he plays for meme. he mostly limits himself to 1 or 2 unit types only. like the mass reaper you saw. He purposely handicaps himself

[@TheTrueReiniat]

UwuThermal ought to throw a dice before every match to see if he cheeses or not, I feel that could be pretty interesting, if he has to macro he can choose one of his weird builds anyway, like penguin mech or his false three base all-in. They wouldnt hardcounter him so hard then.

[@tranquilitydove1155]

Immortal is the evolved form of a marauder ❤

[@karendarrenmclaren]

Looks like uThermal is playing the game for fun! Can you imagine!? Yuk!

[@TheDuckHasArrived]

I wonder if a nuke would help Marc in the last game. Of course if he could afford it.

[@JacobListens]

Got to love uthermal, but at this level no chance. More uthermal cheese pleaseeeee

[@NDHat]

Thermy is just great to watch lol

[@danteprokrustes4795]

I had to go back and play 12:39 moment cus for a sec I thought Lowko said that it's a groß misread but he just said that it's gross if you're reading this Lowko you missed a good occasion for a joke.

[@grahamgaming3]

Wow that ghost queen murder to bc if y'all wanna get to diamond league that's your tvz strat.

[@cornsalty1791]

wait Uthermal is from nld? god now i know almost for sure i was chilling with him allot at late night discord channel haha!

[@XanderCrews4Prez]

Chef's kiss

[@jirikunc1956]

if thermy in game 1 sent first marauder into bunker imidietly, he might have get that nexus. lossing that bunker was game deciding.

[@tuanmuda69]

hahaha uThermal, I watch again on Lowko Channel

[@recuerdameporf]

Jajajaja me encantan las builds de uThermal, son muy divertidas de ver, quiza no sea el mas rápido del mundo pero tiene un planteamiento del juego muy inteligente y versatil

[@tylerrichardson6712]

Seems like a passive attack video on uThermal

[@JudoStev]

I love uthermal, but these are two of the best players in the world. Tough match ups. Still a lot of fun and I love that he keeps his positive attitude even when he loses.

[@empese1127]

Wait! Did I just see Void Rays in a game?!?!

[@thomaschevrierlaliberte5884]

i heard showtime had a nickname...now what was it?? the door??

[@michaelwywu]

Tyty Lowko!!

[@saiae]

I wonder how the rest of the pros feel about uthermal games. From the outside I would assume there's some aspect of "this is a breath of fresh air" fun to it, no?

[@TheDarkendstar]

I have a question to SC2 players I love watching the game but don't think I could ever play with how much work it seems to require but often times I feel like especially with zerg we see a terran or protoss operating off of 3 bases and turtling and building up an army that lets them push out of a like a zerg containment to expand and get more economy until the map becomes a split map and the game lasts a really long time. They zerg tends to have like all there bases when this is going on to so my question is why doesn't the zerg player instead of mining there own bases build there bases while the other player is contained on there side and mine out there side of the map so when they do push out to claim said bases they have less resources to actually get and the zerg can just retreat and go back to mining there side.

[@JudoStev]

That is a strategy that some people use. Building a hatchery on the opponent's side of the map is called a "proxy hatchery". You can proxy any building but it's typically production structures so you can build units on the opponent's side of the map to reinforce your own attack faster. There are people that try to mine out bases on their opponent's side to starve them of resources as well. The reason people don't do this much is because it's risky. It's harder to defend those bases as they're far away from your own production. Or if you keep your army over defending it, your opponent might just go around and kill your main base. It all comes down to making those risk vs reward decisions.

[@leaflotus6726]

If he goes back to pro he'll have so much under his belt

[@ErenisRanitos]

MANCHEGO MAN STRIKES AGAIN 😂❤

[@Forsakenguard]

"That's nice and all."

[@patmacrotch5611]

I’ve never seen seral IRL, no one has ever seen Seral IRL! Weird? It’s obvious Seral is just the final form of AlphaStar!!😊

[@natanyofsho]

dang uthermal went out sad!

[@jonsolo32]

We need Uthermal back competitively.

[@sandrock605]

How did I guess ShoWTime would lose?

[@lasio16]

Can anyone tell me why he calls him thermal when his nickname is marcj?

[@konradpiszczek8487]

Penguin Brothers!!!!!

[@Fridebuh]

If Starcraft II was a bit more about strategy than about macro economy and fast playing, I'm sure U-Thermal would stand a chance :)

[@derka_james]

Most pros wouldnt be pros if that was the case

[@panzfaust9812]

Single unit only needed

[@TheMasterhomaster]

LowKo eats a COUPLE of boogers every day for breakfast.

[@TheTykk]

Its not new build ghost to battlecruisers, iv seen it in my games in plat and I m sure in pro games too

[@hubertborusinski1647]

I think if uThermal would play macro game it would be cheesing.

[@csw4ak]

Bring on the HOWdah.

[@PeterNet0]

What is the idea of ​​publishing cheeses that don't work?

[@StetsonSharp]

I played dark last night he chose protoss

[@Brock742]

I feel like I should be paying for all the sleep you give me for free

[@henryviiifake8244]

27:20 How is Serral doing Macro under that much pressure?! 😭😭😭 uThermal vs Serral is like the difference between someone with hundreds of millions going band-for-band with a _billionaire._ To be clear: that's _not_ a knock on Marc - Serral's just that good. It's insane.

[@geuros]

zerg is just that good

[@henryviiifake8244]

@@geuros Last two finalists + current world champion are Terran... but go off, I guess. 👍

[@geuros]

@@henryviiifake8244 rofl, before that we had 6 consecutive Zerg champions, out of which 3 were ZvZs and 3 ZvPs... In all of history we have 7 Zerg winners, 3 P and 2 T. CLEARLY, Zerg is not the broken race lol

[@hivetech4903]

@@geuros What the freak has balance got to do with it? Its pretty funny if you think any of these builds actually had a chance against the opponents... who are both ranked WAAAAY above him... and it shows.

[@geuros]

@@hivetech4903 wow, an expert made a statement

[@ZC.Andrew]

"Considered to be the best Starcraft 2 player of all time." By who? And using what analysis?

[@OCEHb488]

Although i like uthermal funny strategies i feel kinda sad for him becoming class jokester

[@hisazul]

So much better than turtle games. Just saying lol

[@songweaver6076]

uThermal 4evah!

[@calculatorade]

uThermal is a very bad player, but he is a very good player.