I Already Found The Most Ridiculous Cheese In ZeroSpace...

[@EIG12]

Admittedly this is a new game to me, but those tanks did not look worth it. A bit squishy and they didn't really seem to kill anything either. It looks like those are the kind of unit where the upgrade turrets are really important to being... honestly to being useful at all given what I could tell.

[@catbert7]

Yes, they are obviously not worth the cost if you don't get the turrets. There are also a variety of turrets. If you want them to be tanky, you can get regen turrets that make it very hard to kill. Making 4 of them and getting into a fight with them naked was worst-case scenario; all the investment and none of the pay-off.

[@tzaphkielconficturus7136]

@@catbert7 He is contractually obligated to build everything important in the most vulnerable position possible.

[@Wolf3685]

Interesting new game. Love to see more along with your SC2 content. I'm here for the commentary and positive vibes, not just the game.

[@wedgeantilles8575]

As a backer of ZeroSpace, I am happy to see you play it - and cheese it :D

[@eclipseeffigy]

Nice games!! 😂 what a finish lol. Game defo still needs a lot of work but I'm excited for more Zerospace over the course of the years. :D

[@Arexsis]

Because you weren't sure Marc: Harbinger in english is pronounced "Har-Bin-Jer" Har like Hard, Bin like... Bin, and Jer like German or Jury.

[@lexist7]

German, yes. Jury, no.

[@Arexsis]

@@lexist7 yes, where I am from the GER of Germany and JUR of jury are pronounced the exact same

[@CosmicElegy]

I'm into it. If other races have a similar ability to that instant nuke then these games are going to get insane.

[@Szokynyovics]

The game is not entitely convincing yet, but it is still alpha so I am rooting for it, but you made it to be a very fun video ;)

[@fuckingstupidthatihavetoma2528]

yeah I have zero interest in this game...

[@LoganJamesMusic]

I’ve seen those tanks like flame entire armies. I don’t think they’re worth it if you build 4 but just use their basic attack.

[@kyle52245]

I don't think I've ever seen Marc laugh that hard! I was dying!!

[@jamez0r]

Enjoying the ZeroSpace vids!

[@alexbernat5952]

Absolutely love this with how much room for strategic innovation there is. I feel like the units *look* much less responsive than they are because of how slowly the models turn to face the direction they're moving, and I wonder if that might be a useful thing for them to adjust - I miss the "crispness" of SC2 unit control. After watching more play from you and others though, it seems like the significantly slower pace of unit movement compared to SC2 maybe opens up space for players to engage better with the added depth of strategy that comes with all these mechanics and abilities. So basically more ability micro and strategy options at the cost of less positioning micro. An interesting tradeoff, but it makes it possible to add a lot of new ideas into the RTS genre! Stoked to see you inventing new ZS cheeses!!

[@Talentaire]

So happy to see you casta another ZeroSpace game already ! Havent watched it yet but it is a direct instant like ! :D This game and you are amazing :)

[@terranzoid]

Yes! I was waiting for it! A full series MUST follow.

[@McmMacky]

Watching a gameplay of a potential good RTS is always welcome Marc! I am loving it. Dont listen to these guys who only complains..

[@McMega33]

Man.. i remember watching your videos and you were pumped to get 30k subscribers..! Keep up the good work! Always fun to check out your videos and watch some good cheese action lol.

[@hwile]

Personally, I do like the game. The only complaint is that the units move too slow

[@123mickymouse123]

Need that Faster speed option.

[@maximk9964]

Always with the cheese 🤣

[@catbert7]

11:43: "These tanks don't really die" 12:08: 3/4 tanks are dead. 18:50: "My army is looking pretty big here" 19:00: Army is dead. Would help if you actually put turrets on the tanks ;p Also never had a counter for the enemy tanks.

[@jims420]

This game is awesome. Especially seeing it in alpha...the full game will be great im stoked for it!

[@nurabsol]

This was very cool! Love to See more of these nee RTS games and also watch you learning them and commenting on the game design.

[@Dohyden2]

Grinding meta is how you learn how effective your cheeses are. so it's good that you did some grinding. But now you feel like moving on and that's good too :)

[@cuddlecakes7153]

i definitely want to see more of this

[@AleryZz]

Released as much non StarCraft as you want, I love it and I am here for you, not the game

[@immarudamu4508]

I love that you use Sc2 terminology to explain whats going on in this game. A tutorial video on this game would be amazing!

[@davidchou236]

victory at last! But thou, shrieking harbinger, Foul pre-currer of the fiend, Augur of the fever's end, To this troop come thou not near. Death is now the phoenix' nest; And the turtle's loyal breast To eternity doth rest, Leaving no posterity

[@NoName-kf1cy]

You know you can get add-ons on the terror tank there's Gatlin gun, flamethrower and shields

[@Gitalien1]

26:00 For the nuke

[@Maconviking]

That last nuke was amazing

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

Unfotunately you lost the tank with the upgraded turrets first, and a lot of the others never got turret upgrades. But the last guy I was watching play this just used F2 control on everything. Good to see some splitting and map control. I can't wait to play this. Personally I'm going to send my hero to my opponent's xp tower, wait for them to aggro the bugs, and then start stealing the tower and either wait until they use their ability on the bugs to soften them and then try to gank the kills, or focus their hero down while they're being chased. I was going to play Grell regardless of their strength, Zerg main.

[@menturinai1387]

I'm really loving these zerospace videos

[@bartdebaere2252]

Give it to the Kaaskoppen to cheese every game

[@boreduser12]

I hate heroes in melee. Why i enjoyed SC, SC2 and WC2 more than WC3

[@blakedurrant9399]

Dolan out here cosplaying Solar :'). GG's

[@Octopie18]

ty for the video, I hope you have a great day

[@eztvlight1202]

You sir, have a wonderful evening

[@Drymarro]

​@@eztvlight1202no you sir, have a spectacular evening.

[@Lycam]

Watching you play other RTS is refreshing. Maybe give a try into World in Conflict, Wargames, Company of Heroes, Beyond All Reason.

[@christophercrager1925]

This is cool. I don’t understand what’s going on mainly but I like it. Also for the devs, the graphs are impossible to read

[@Nico_Dica]

As I always said I never played sc2 but I just enjoy the entertainment and good vibes you share

[@Jaryism]

It feels a lot more like WC3 than SC2

[@PhantomHarlock78]

Open beta in 2025 -_-"

[@Yayadays111]

I really enjoyed this, the mechanics in the game looks pretty interesting and stands out quite a bit from starcraft

[@subpump2823]

Can't wait to play this!

[@MrTBSC]

that tank is more like a Kane´s Wrath M.A.R.V

[@claytonwu320]

I have no clue what’s going on, but I’m enjoying the gameplay… Pretty much the same as normal StarCraft 2 videos lmao

[@WeAreCatZ]

G1 Insane game tbh, thought you had it with the 3 tanks in the middle fight. G2 was wild - really cool strat ima steal it

[@TGPanda242]

Seems like a near perfect mix halfway between Warcraft and Starcraft!

[@whikihowable]

Not a huge of this game but i do like u, thermal

[@ezraclark7904]

I like that second map, more forced engagement for flux, I wonder what a map with fewer deposits would result in.

[@againsttheleftandright4065]

ZeroSpace is literally a Sc2 reskin with moba trash, as if that's what any RTS fan wanted.

[@hckr_-gh7se]

hell yeah some zerospace content

[@ezraclark7904]

Crazy how many are complaining about graphical polish in an alpha, so many things are so clearly placeholders.

[@jaker4ster]

This game looks great! I'm here for it

[@Terracronz]

You mad lad you’ve done it

[@leafykille]

This looks really good, doesn't seem to have the same hype as stormgate, but the game play looks way more interesting.

[@Regunes]

That game looks very promising.

[@njdarda]

lots of cool ideas in this game

[@pinkfloyddwc]

that's essentially a disruptor ball

[@DrunkSober-n2h]

This is embarrassing that's so low efort looking game but cuz of some reason people donated to it, what if 2 millions went to sc2

[@edsviewz]

i would love to see tou finding cheeses in BAR (Beyond All Reason)

[@lukex1337]

ZeroSpace in alpha > Stormgate in beta.

[@petarmilivojevic7850]

Nice looking game but movement feels somewhat clunky and slow and also sound leaves lot to be desired.

[@Drymarro]

It's in alpha

[@Alleycat___]

Better said, boring af

[@elricdotah]

I have to say having watched two of your videos on the game, I'm not that interested. I don't have a clue what the units or buildings do, it looks like mobs of things moving around and then clashing and something dies. Everything moves slow, units are pretty samey looking, etc. Starcraft has a pretty good distinction in what everything does, how everything looks different to other things, etc.

[@Scawtsauce]

what happens when you lose your hero? you said it respawns, do you lose any resources?

[@456death654]

Looks like a tank from ww2

[@AtticusKarpenter]

So this facton is Mengsk + Taldarim

[@kuubilal]

Those big tanks seem kinda weak for all the investment and time they need, especially if you dont upgrade their 4 turrets

[@JamEvil]

I loved the part with the cheese. 🧀

[@haakonglindtvad5489]

The game looks good but still Tempest Rising looks even better

[@Annokh]

One complaint I have is how flying bullet animations / shot sounds aren't synchronised with units losing HP from them sometimes. Is it due to lag or it's just a graphical thingy? Either way, it's a bit disorienting.

[@mrpotato8985]

I like this new game! do more content on it. It was awesome!

[@Maconviking]

Love new games!

[@WMrFamous]

"Comeback mechanic" -- No thanks.

[@DanielScholtus]

LOL, you didn't go with it on the 1st game because the nuke was better against big balls of small things.... guess what he built lol It would have been so OP in the first game :D

[@NainGeantMiniature]

Age of Empire II content when? 😆

[@bakacs1n]

A yes .. the "macromaster"

[@kevinmcdunn8058]

The gameplay looks decent, but the art style is so painfully generic that it’s hard to imagine this game getting a broad audience. It’s also hard to tell why folks should play this instead of SC2, aside from a bit of novelty.

[@clusternate]

I see the exact opposite with "Stormgate". Both are still not fully released and IMHO. The visuals, are easier to change than the gameplay feel. Storm gate feels to cutie for me. Same problem, Diablo 3 and genshin impact have for me. IMHO, zeros pace have a bigger chance but in the end it's gonna be the thing that the small kids are going to play to get in the numbers.

[@almightyhydra]

It's in early alpha, they may well upgrade the graphics closer to release.

[@pauliusgecas472]

this is really quite interesting. watching sc2 sucks but this one is quite okay, perhaps that it is still new.

[@loudigity0]

How do you play this game is it only Early Access

[@loudigity0]

I cant see this reply.

[@evilolive7773]

looks real good

[@cesarromeronoriega8749]

the thingis move really slow, dont they?

[@maya_gameworks]

I have no idea what is happening.

[@titos2x]

Please do more ZeroSpace!!!!!

[@darkalley8595]

Nice video.

[@gabrielstarlight9003]

Early game feels slow to me. Seems like there isn't any early damage potential.

[@mikeyzmtg]

Have you ever tried age of empires?

[@dixiedad]

Game is ok but just way way to many things to do like Holy

[@motoboy6666]

Is this game out?

[@Allwordx]

When you think you are a good player and find out a streamer is laughing and making a video using you and new cheese...

[@psytogamu]

How Can I play it?

[@jeffhalla777]

I like this game!

[@catbert7]

I do like ZeroSpace better than Stormgate but they're all pretty samey. I would absolutely love to see uTherm play a truly different RTS, like Planetary Annihilation or Beyond All Reason. He could get up to so much shenanigans in those, especially PA.

[@owlcaps7876]

This game is really boring to watch, the design isn't coherent enough to even be aware what is going on.

[@IamKnucks]

You mean it's your opinion that you find it boring to watch. Just because you declare it, doesn't make it fact. The game's not really my jam either, but I'm not going to shit on anyone who enjoys it. You might find yourself in less conflict with people if you humble up a bit.

[@suunraze]

I'm enjoying it.

[@cuddlecakes7153]

I do agree that the designs are not coherent, and that makes it hard to follow what's happening, however I still find it entertaining to watch

[@CameronOwen101]

The visual design is not great compared to SC2. The way attacks are telegraphed and animated is messy and breaks a lot of VFX rules for how people will read them. It's a complex and moving target to get it right, and blizzard spent a lot of time iterating and working out what works and why in the context of an eSports title. Blizzard even designed marines, zerglings and zealots as units that move in groups so all of the animations and movement was endlessly tweaked and iterated in to make those units read and telegraph correctly in large groups. It's a hard problem to solve that just takes a lot of time and iterating to get right. Hopefully all of that will just improve with time.

[@joeking5215]

Yes it's crap

[@TheMrGuyver]

I'm obviously biased, but I feel this game to be much less fun to play (and certainly tu watch) than SCII...

[@potatopobobot4231]

This game is boring. In b4 guy comments saying "to humble up a bit". Game actually looks pretty neat.

[@TheOriginalElkstone]

I mean this is definitely not the new starcraft, if anything it looks like command and conquer with moba garbage in it

[@JSp4wN]

Imo this game needs refinement. I luv your channel Thermy but I probably won't watch these videos very often or at all. (I'm not talking shit, just giving my honest opinion) Cheers Marc.

[@tarsisisterval5964]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA XD

[@qontodemigo2461]

Zero space to rank 1

[@NoName-kf1cy]

This game is gonna be bomb!!!! Legion seems like the warcraft 3 ppl lol plants are zero and the other is Terran lol I love this game already! So much better than stormgate

[@jjgiddy]

Straight up, ZeroSpace isn't fun to watch.

[@momom6197]

I disagree, I find it very fun to watch!

[@IamKnucks]

The world has too many people who declare their opinion as fact. You can simply say you don't enjoy watching it. You don't have to claim "zerospace is not fun to watch". You might find you end up with a lot less conflict if you humble up a bit.

[@civilianemail]

ChatGPT - This comment appears to lack self-awareness by itself making a declarative statement about how people should express their opinions, potentially overlooking the irony of doing so. The suggestion to "humble up a bit" might also be seen as lacking self-awareness, as it implies a superior understanding of humility.

[@dominionemployee1188]

This or one of the new rts games will probably surpass sc2. Because of simplicity and ability to play on toaster-level system requirements. Sucks but will probably happen. Like LOL vs DOTA 2