I Destroyed This Skytoss Cheeser With A Creative Proxy Hatch

[@Digital_Goose]

"We have won for Humanity; and for the Starcraft community" -Marc The day Skytoss was pushed back. Truly a turning point the bards will sing of for decades.

[@shavais33]

They will sing, like Loki, in a Low Key 😆

[@Digital_Goose]

@@shavais33 😂

[@jajsamurai]

uThermal: "I'm fighting for humanity!" Plays Zerg . . .

[@EsportsStoryteller]

Zerg and terran just share a common bitter enemy

[@bobzombie2710]

Because Humanity (Terran) would moronically destroy itself.

[@bronzecomeshome9517]

I thought the exact same thing when he said it 😅

[@vereor66]

its okay zerg are vegetarian tree huggers now

[@bobzombie2710]

@@vereor66 Careful, you'll actually see people cry that Terran got nerfed and Z / P got buffed.

[@NiceRoboT]

Hey uT! I have a tip for macroing with Zerg - not sure if you know about it already. If you have your queens on a hot key, you can inject larva without having to put your camera there - you can press the inject larva key and click the hatchery on your minimap, and the closest queen to that hatch will inject. Always made macroing easy for me so I could be injecting while microing the army on the other side of the map. Hope you like the tip! Love your channel!

[@damnplaylist]

I offrace as Zerg a lot. Thanks for the tip

[@Exabyte98]

WHAT? My random zerg games will benefit greatly from that tip, thanks!

[@sharpasacueball]

This is a great tip. I always forget about injecting

[@timmuche1093]

Great tip man

[@mattmbx5472]

'' i'm gonna make so many corruptors, it will block the sun'' 😂

[@EsportsStoryteller]

So enjoyable to see unorthodox games!

[@lanbolanon3128]

So true

[@Supergoon1989]

That first game against Urza was fantastic! Not very often I see a cannon rusher get caught and actually be able to macro their way out of it into a decent game afterwards. Very well played by both! GG!!

[@MaSolSC2]

Nah, He just turteld like hell and rushed Skytoss which is another kind of cheese Its a valid strategy I guess, but I would not go so far to compliment his gameplay

[@Supergoon1989]

@@MaSolSC2 Well OK, but most failed cannon rushers simply roll over and die immediately - just sayin'

[@sparkleknight3679]

@@Supergoon1989 most cannon rusher I encountered on ladder do the same thing urza did, camp an 2/3 bases, build insane amounts of static and then a-move

[@kentondoyle3451]

Spine and spore crawlers are a huge benefit of playing zerg. They don't use any supply and can move. So when maxed army happens there can be a whole other army of movable attacking buildings. Like pfs and turrets that can be advanced. When the resources are mined out drones are still valuable changing into crawlers not just sacked like probes and scvs.

[@IamKnucks]

I can't believe we're 23 games into proxy hatch. It goes so fast!

[@iamofflineyesreally]

Wow you make StarCraft look so fun to play.

[@true_xander]

I learned from Marc's playstyle so much that the game became fun to me again. Didn't played for ages, and yet we are back on the ladder.

[@PashaSlavaUkraine]

So many buttons to learn, and I feel like good people will break me down on molecules if I try to learn to play lol

[@Celastrous]

It is very fun. I haven't played ladder since 2012, but I remember it being very fun and even noob friendly

[@Fohnzii]

@@PashaSlavaUkraine The lower ranks which is where you'll start out is very very approachable. Just look at some low APM videos from WinterSC for your race or any other unranked to GM series and copy the build/theory behind good starcraft. I got to diamond in about 75 games.

[@DomenG33K]

@@PashaSlavaUkraine Starcraft 2 is one of the easiest games to improve when you are in the metal leagues (bronze-plat).

[@andimayer1119]

Fitting that a skytoss player has the name of one of the greatest villains.

[@loudaccord]

Your Zerg is really fun to watch.

[@quitequiet5281]

Zerg “fighting for humanity...” Wonders never cease. LOL

[@anotherplatypus]

Love the fact you're branching into other races. These bizarre challenges are very entertaining, and would love to see you do your thing with combos from other races. Even if it means ending challenges after 10 episodes due to losing MMR twice in a row... I say go for it. Would love to see your Protoss version of the marine medivac challenge and how you deal with zealot anti-air problems for example. My suggestion is that since you continually improve you're skills between episodes (I think you critically study your matches while editing videos), in the long run (months and years) you'll be able to come up with a lot more fun creative compositions than if you'd just stuck to Terran the whole time. Just a thought. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@semicedevine6918]

I'm starting to get the impression that when it comes to zerg, you can never make too many drones. I think uthermal is too used to the terran mindset where you have to constantly keep up the pressure with a superior army. Even if you have a weaker zerg army, they still have to move across the map to take out your economy. In other words, for the macro games that happened later on in both games, I think uthermal should have expanded more aggressively and defended instead of trying to keep army on the other side of the map. Drone growth rate is like exponential, the more drones you have, the more drones you can make vs terran where getting ahead in scv count for a little bit doesn't mean as much. In other words, keep doing the cheeses, but don't be afraid to switch to defense/eco earlier once the commitment is over. I think the cheeses are stronger than you think but your macro messes up the lead you get from it. Love your videos as always uThermal.

[@jordanfox470]

Yeah he's very good at spamming macro cc's but hasn't gotten into the habit of using macro hatches.

[@carlossanz1062]

Love the move to hide the spore down the overlords ❤ this remember me other video that you hide a zerlings begging a tree, I never show that things before

[@dalynwelch6366]

I’ve not played a serious game of StarCraft in roughly 10 years (nor do I plan to) but it’s still one of my favs to sit and watch

[@SeekAndDestroyTM]

I think if you committed to the second cannon that hadn't finished and just built queens and a spore you would have been in an amazing spot.

[@AJKiesel]

Of course Urza would be playing Skytoss. Always fun to see Marc as an Ogre Zerg Gamer though.

[@Neceros]

something serral does is make roughly 8 zerglings and sends them into a random enemy mineral line. does a lot of damage and distraction for almost no cost

[@BuiVision]

I stopped playing SC2 years ago, but love watching your games and content. Keep it up!

[@aidanchow1051]

You made playing against skytoss look fun. Impresive.

[@PTfan54]

*Harstem Voice* No GG out of my opponent, he must have forgotten.

[@ArthurMasterofLance]

I'm loving that you been dropping vids right when im on lunch everyday.

[@TR-lt4xc]

The perfect time and timing almost everyday.

[@ArthurMasterofLance]

@@TR-lt4xc wanna watch him play toss

[@TheGeniusZingo]

High-quality content yet again! Btw, it would be awesome if you could make an episode where you try to cover the whole map in creep by using overlords and queens :)

[@woodstockbrandonb]

I was able to crush a proxy hatch the other day thanks to this series.

[@DekkarJr]

mutalisks are THE shit. All those jumps of their mucus projectile is so awesome and they are sooo fast :)

[@joeygawl4346]

Normal player: Ah damn. my cheese did end the game! gg.. uThermal: Ah damn. my cheese didnt end the game! good thing I am uThermal =]

[@phillgizmo8934]

Keep creep spread! Keep creep spread! Good stuff Marc! Keep creep spread.

[@lild4vey]

Just want you to know that your content is awesome! Keep it up pleasse!!!!!!!

[@mrthomjonson]

No one: uThermal: fogavoire

[@catbert7]

It's always hilarious when they can't take their natural 'cuz of creep xD

[@Necroneer]

Thank you for executing that filthy Toss player.

[@olehmatsuk2436]

uThermal: oh he's making a ton of voidrays. oh he's making carriers. oh he made a mothership. oh it's very interesting what he's doing me, a diamond Zerg player, seeing the same strategy as all my ZvPs for the last 2 years: -_-

[@goseigentwitch3105]

I think the proxy hatch from the first game need another ravager. 3 was enough to do tiny bits of hull damage to cannons, but a 4th would have gotten through the cannons relatively quickly

[@evbvini]

loving to see you play as zerg! I think that a queen in the first game would be nice, love from brasil

[@Ggarchitect]

What mic do you use where you can flawlessly execute a build and not make a peep! Love the vids and the new builds!!!

[@InVerSemusic93]

Marc, I figured I'd ask this question on your most recent video although it pertains mostly to Terran. I noticed when you are lifting depots to prevent units from entering your main you select them by box clicking. The game doesn't allow you to select both depots that way by default because the selection area includes more than 1 building type. Just a small curiosity from watching a lot of your content. Thanks for making these videos, you managed to get me re-addicted to this game that I played religiously for 5 years straight. I don't know if that's a good thing but I am enjoying myself lol

[@uThermal]

If you box the 2 depots plus barracks you can actually select 2 depots ^^ some of my habits are definitely weird though, not everything I do is perfect :P

[@InVerSemusic93]

@@uThermal Wait.... it totally does let you do that, I was tripping lmao. It seems the game has selection priorities when box clicking as long as units aren't in the box. It's like Units > CC/OC > Depots > etc So basically that method works unless you accidentally select a unit right?

[@artemirrlazaris7406]

One of my favorite timing attacks is, "muta harass" and than tricking as if flying back or straight up fly around to the air zone in behind or close, mutation into brood lords. Its an expensive attack to cause as much damage as possible timed wit ha frontal assault. The broodlord port. :P

[@christianhornlimann3079]

But it's curruptors that morph into broodlords, not mutas...

[@AmericanCaesarian]

ZERG Shapiro DESTROYS SKYTOSS with PROXY HATCH and LOGIC

[@PashaSlavaUkraine]

Baboon is a good sc2 name

[@jonbattens8688]

I like how everything is considered cheese. Play fast and cheap, cheese. Turtle, cheese. Go air, cheese. Not sure you know what that means …

[@user-om4yd5br8b]

Thanks for the video! This is a very exciting content! Considering last game against terran, what is the adequate response to your strategy? How terran should react not to be so far behind?

[@K_R87]

I don’t even play StarCraft but these are fun to watch.

[@Broformist]

As a Plat 1 Zerg, skytoss is not my worst nightmare. In fact I've been killing them a lot since learning the mass baneling runby solution from Pig's B2GM. But BC turtle Terrans? Now those can go fuck themselves. :D

[@Dk-km1fl]

Yes!!! love this lol!!! i suck so bad cuz i always get pwned by skytoss (tempest and carriers). in my mind I want to make ghosts to emp or use ravens to disable. but my brain-hand coordination doesn't approve.

[@thefirstsol1770]

renaming it into "proxy hatch to DreamHack Finals" would make you Bly 😁

[@juny9445]

Hey marc,are you gonna make a vid of the new balance patch that came out,would like to hear your opinion on it

[@luckylarry71]

*Kreep spreading ceep* ™

[@alk672]

I don't think I've won a single game when my zerg opponent took my natural. It doesn't matter how well I defend, the map is covered in creep and I can't take the natural forever, so I'm really not sure what I'm supposed to be doing from that position.

[@dpend]

I usually pull workers to kill the hatch so they can’t get a queen out to spread creep

[@valpanig]

For the Swarm!

[@cheepjxiong]

I want to see you Cannon Rush to GM next

[@true_xander]

My dude, you should really turn your view at Harstem at this point, he does c-rush quite frequently. But regarding the format of this show - I'd say we should expect some more delicious flavors of 'toss cheese from Mr. Thermy ;) A blink stalker to GM!? What a nonsense..

[@cheepjxiong]

@@true_xander I watch SC2 for the salt. A segment, Bad Manner to GM! Lmao. Quick way to get banned! 😂😂

[@videoboysayscube]

What's the correct response when the Zerg takes your natural? I've never figured out how to not just be massively behind. Even if the Zerg does zero damage, you're going to have a ton of creep to clean up. And teching up to a raven means no opportunity to do fast counter damage. So what do you do?

[@lostone9700]

Wow contain and creep looks a bit op

[@DrDave-cp8vq]

Great video, but I wish people weren't so mean about skytoss. All strategies should be valid. To me, tank/marine drop is way more lame than skytoss but still valid to do!

[@Zamiroh]

Awesome games!!!!

[@sanhestime]

u thermal i recommend this only for TvP use only Hellions, Siege Tanks and ofcourse for air attack use Vikings i hope this request will succes to you my idle

[@00j80]

uThermal does not Cheese, he has Fromaj

[@andyelgrand0]

keep Skeading Skeep :)

[@Rakstawr]

Another banger

[@lacontrasena1239]

Celebrate

[@michaelmichaelsen3472]

You won for all zergkind

[@mattmuoio4936]

disclaimer.. I do not play starcraft anymore.. Can someone explain why in the second game Thermal doesn't build just 3-4 spine crawlers when he has proxy hatch established? feels like he could have gotten way more than one down and just trapped terran on one base for a long time as he macroed behind. Seemed like he gave up on it earlier with only one spine. Did he just not think he would be able to get established with that foothold for so much time?

[@sandutheodor9398]

Random race to gm? It needs something else on top to spice it up I think

[@JustDanish199]

2 seconds old vid! pog

[@Mark-cz2qe]

zerg air

[@L76_Official]

Couldn’t your next Zerg series be like Nydus or dropperlords to GM just to show all the different Nyduses and drops, lurker nydus, baneling drops. Just these a little more cheesy playstyles

[@aratosm]

Why did the video's get so short? They used to be around 40 minutes to an hour and lately they are around 20 minutes.

[@DaeoSZ]

are you sad they just announced hyperflight rotor buff as you're finishing the skyterran challenge? :( you should continue the skyterran challenge a bit after the buff

[@ToiletTennis]

Only 2 games 😭😭

[@Kirk.television]

Let's go

[@vitaligofman1801]

for humanity,** btw great content, keep it up. as a reader of all comments i want you to know i find you stingy with the queens in your zerg stuff. btw i expect you to get that random player portrait that you like, 1000 wins as random or something?

[@diazalex5314]

Skytoss to GM?

[@nofun594]

Cannon rush into skytoss, how disgusting can you be as a player?

[@craigkoeneful]

Maybe one time you can take a drink of something in a game. Take your hands away from the keyboard and mouse lol Nox possible man lol

[@sebru]

Spire units to GM

[@njdarda]

the second game was disgusting. how is it that you can do these things with zerg yet all zerg players seem to do the same thing over and over again?

[@isanyoneelseheretoday]

Years of practice

[@DomenG33K]

He played the proxy well, and the terran had the worst response possible. The man build TWO bases in a row and still had more units. Look at UThermals doom drops and how fast he gets them...

[@donvitto5123]

I am Terran and i hate Skytoss

[@jaceedwards937]

I love the content thermal but why don’t you have any gucci Zerg skins??? I always see your opponents have some cool stuff going on and you’re always running the vanilla skins I’d buy you some damn skins if that’s the issue I’m so sick of your vanilla hatch and drones :(

[@arivaldhagel2394]

First? Always wanted to do it!

[@TerryKristopher3707]

Check that off the bucket list! I knew you could do it!

[@kreeskalay7042]

You are the man! How can we play together? I'm a bronzer noob :)

[@NerdGlassGamingPA]

I think neither uthermal nor most people actually know what "cheesing" means or they use it for everything so freely.

[@huntersigler9895]

How so?

[@DomenG33K]

Building a base in the enemy base is not cheese?

[@brasshouse-og]

Proxy hatch is so much fun