This 7000 MMR Player Got DESTROYED By My Amazing Trap

[@InqWiper]

Meanwhile Heromarine: Unfortunately I am not allowed to make Raven with this challenge.

[@TrueSTARbornFall]

Where is the other perspective please?

[@zes7215]

wrrr

[@Dawindell]

@@TrueSTARbornFall www.twitch.tv/videos/1965680040 at 30:00

[@Name-ru1kt]

Terrans just refuse to make ravens in tvz. Why? They suck at microing because there is no other reason

[@TheGreenTaco999]

@@Name-ru1kt he won putting his minerals into cyclones instead of building ravens. cry about it

[@altonito777]

For those of you who won't take the time to go see HeroMarine's stream : When the borrow trap was successful he said "sh*t he got me with the borrow trap" and "I wish I could make raven so it don't happen again" but it was cyclone only challenge. He also said it was a nice game and that he would keep playing and learned at the end that he was playing against UThermal

[@anarchosnowflakist786]

do you have a link to heromarine's video ?

[@altonito777]

​@anarchosnowflakist786 www.twitch.tv/heromarine/v/1965680040?sr=a&t=1478s the game starts around 29-30 minutes

[@Puchacz81]

So they set it up.

[@benjamin_w.]

Op post the link

[@martin-o6n4e]

I don't even play this game but can't stop watching the videos. The last time I played it was more than 10 years ago and I only played it for a month or so. I guess I'm here to watch the creativity unfold more than anything. This is a good channel keep doing whatever you are doing.

[@Shlice7]

you should try the coop mode

[@ibfreely8952]

Free to play and always easy to get a game on ladder, still as good as it was once upon a time, give it a try.

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

I was on the same boat… one fateful day the algorithm showed me a video of this silly goose and now I am on the ladder. I’m only gold 3, but it’s ok.

[@party4keeps28]

Same here.

[@martin-o6n4e]

@@ibfreely8952 I feel like it's a lot of effort, you have to learn the spells, the match-ups, remember timings, builds, custom hotkeys. That's why I just wanna watch and stick to FPS games.

[@Kyle-8787]

Watched from both perspectives, what keeps me hooked on your channel is your energy and ability to succinctly describe not only your own thoughts, bust also potential thoughts of your opponent

[@Alleycat___]

I was a Z player. I remember while playing i could barely breath But thermy speaks his mind out like ez pz. Unreal

[@Vaprous]

Link to the Harstem perspective?

[@lukesinclair6217]

I used to hate how much uThermal talked, now I love it. So much energy. Also completely unfiltered live thought process.

[@zes7215]

wrgg

[@jackmuscadmium]

"Maybe I did spread too much creep after all." --Excerpt from: Things I Never Thought I'd Hear From uThermal

[@uThermal]

hahaha true

[@alk672]

Thermy and Heromarine are exactly the opposite when they talk about the game. Thermy can explain complex stuff in 3 words while playing so that anyone can understand, while Heromarine can go on and on and on for 20 minutes without saying anything, and at the end of it I start suspecting that he's never even touched the game. Pretty amazing.

[@uThermal]

Poor Heromarine xD

[@skychaos87]

16:25 you are within the sensor tower range, of course he spotted you.

[@jialianglow]

surprise pikachu

[@KkawaiiPotato]

I wonder, can he flood with ultra and lings and then burrow the ultras to set a trap? Kind of using the lings as like a smoke screen or does the sensor tower detect burrowed units as well

[@alexm7023]

@@KkawaiiPotatoit detect burrowed and cloaked units

[@KkawaiiPotato]

@@alexm7023 ah dang

[@lordpalle1]

Back in the late 90's/early 00's I used to play the original Starcraft (and Brood War). I never got around to play the second installment -- I was at another place in my life. But now I find myself binging your videos hard. This brought back memories, and I just installed SC2.

[@justinhowe3878]

these unburrow plays make me so happy, this is beautiful lore accurate zerg. i feel like it's why unburrow was included as a zerg ability, the devs were imagining stuff just like this. i picture a whole cohort of terran cyclones moving across the landscape to purge a zerg colony and all of a sudden the ground erupts everywhere around them, chewing teeth and claws ripping into their armor, screams, utter chaos. back at HQ, the comms officers are trying to make sense of what just happened as the entire squadron goes dark in a matter of moments. amazing!!

[@IamKnucks]

12:11 when things get spicy 15:07 next big trap

[@victorchen5663]

Not all heroes are called heromarine

[@qkees8949]

I have a rather interesting idea for a challenge. The idea is this: You can choose any race, but the point is to use units only from the first StarCraft, not from Brood War (If it’s too difficult, then you can also use from Brood War). I would look at this :) "Sorry for my english"

[@hanshansen2925]

I love your outros and your overall enthusiasm / happiness while playing. It's a joy to watch your videos. 🙂

13:20 A couple of these kill all the SCVs Damn, what a solidly delivered rap line!

[@wedgeantilles8575]

Somehow we got from "The cyclone is the worst unit ever" to "every terran player is playing cyclone" in 2 weeks... And how was I flamed in the comments when I pointed out back then that the Cyclone wasn't bad and that e.g. Clem build some of them early game. Two fantastic games, thanks for the video!

[@libetop]

This episode is 100% content from all the player involved

[@janoshkronos1882]

it smells like ... burrow to GM for the next challange

[@RMarkNolan]

That was really fun to watch! I just love uThermal's boundless energy and optimism, even when everything turns to custard!

[@Mr.Bambogea]

I was on Gabe channel and I was amazed by this first game, now.... when I saw those traps I was BLASTED, a gigachad zerg , it reminded me on how Bly plays [which by the way, it's a huge compliment, I'm a big Bly fan and of his weird or rather magical playstyle]. I personally would love to see more games like these when playing against actives pros which are playing on some sort of handicap.

[@semicedevine6918]

im so glad he leads with '7000' mmr player, ill be here for the whole vid

[@Treksh]

This series has brought back my love for sc2

[@klawzee]

Sometimes I just get triggered by thermy's 305 mineral hatches 😭

[@blackoutglitch]

That heromarine reveal made that first game 100x more legendary lol

[@Cheng798536]

16:35 that scan is not luck nor skill. It's the sensor tower detected units there before burrow. And after burrow in fog of war it will still display burrowed unit there.

[@krunkcleanup2949]

Haha that first game was epic! Those poor cyclones never saw it coming...

[@shacharlo]

First of all, I want to say that you are the starcraft player I enjoy watching the most! I want to offer you a new Grandmaster challenge. No scout at all to Grandmaster! The only time you are allowed to move with troops from your base is only when you intend to attack the opponent's base. You will only do the scout when you attack the base. Of course this also means no scans.

[@woohab]

12:00 LETS GOOOOO THAT IS SO SICK

[@CtrlAltRetreat]

Now i want to see this from harstems point of view. Anyonehave the title of the ep?

[@superpantman]

Uthermal lost 2-0 to Arrogfire in the recent ESL winter qualifiers. Arrogfire went on to qualify for the main event and got absolutely crushed by Serral, it wasn't even slightly close. Arrogfire went out the tournament after a few more defeats. This isn't to say uthermal is bad, he's like top 1% of players but it shows you how even now at the top level just how good players are.

[@cuddlecakes7153]

how does one even get that good?

[@michaelpape6605]

@@cuddlecakes7153 Have you heard the 10,000 hour rule?

[@bvldr]

@@michaelpape6605that’s a myth.

[@TurnOnTheBackburner]

@@bvldr its not; if you really do focused practice in your craft, you will get really good at it in 10,000 hours.

[@bvldr]

@@TurnOnTheBackburner incredibly wrong

[@landshark_8024]

You have so much fun trying different things and enjoy yourself win or lose! its great to watch. Only Starcraft Ive ever played was the solo SC2 campaign before cyclones even existed…

[@dromeosaur1031]

Your terrain roots are showing - with the drone mining minerals before morphing into a hatch.

[@kunzadar]

I feel like there is a "burrowed to gm" challenge possibility though I am not sure exactly what the rules would be besides no spire units.

[@Something-tz2vw]

❤ this channel!

[@beniverson3777]

He's scanning the other side of the plant barrier before crossing it and that's where you keep burrowing, in the exact same place over and over

[@MrBudd53909]

I've played SC2 for a couple of months, kept getting "DEAD", but, since watching your "Sky Terran" series, I just might try again. Thanks.

[@lyall3000]

Great games! To be fair to HeroMarine tho, he was doing a cyclone only challenge, so like u, playing below his main MMR due to doing a challenge, so perhaps a bit unfair to call it smurfing. I watched his steam pov also - sadly he did see the burrowed lings with that first scan on your third :-) he also wasnt lucky scanning the burrowed ultras, u poked them through the trees before quickly retreating and burrowing, he saw it, chased them and scanned. thx again for the great content! im a fan of u both and its fantastic to see u both play each other challenge vs challenge, some really fun & unconventional games.

[@ottle2570]

What you have to remember is that high elo starcraft players use "smurf" in a different way. They often times use alt accounts smurfs as well

[@graog123]

it's smurfing. there is no difference as to what the player does when they're at the low elo, the point of the term is to indicate the skill ceiling of the player being much higher than the mmr of the match they're in

[@eclipseeffigy]

Yeah, same thing uThermal does. Surprised he calls it smurfing on his main race like that, like my man it's literally you 😅

[@zes7215]

wrr@@ottle2570

[@dbford]

at 16:20 he sees the ultras because his sensor tower finishes just in time lol

[@fredq6118]

I think a few times you burrowed your units behind bushes, and the opponent caught them with a scan because they just wanted to see what was on the other side of the bush they were going through - especially after being traumatised by a few burrowed plays already

[@raghardeishi972]

That terran managed to finish his cyclones only challenge.

[@YouNolf]

does the 5 minerals mined by the drone that morphed into a hatchery get into your resources?

[@Aeolus2499]

Nope, lost forever 😂

[@IcariumGaming]

To be fair, it's only 10% of a pair of zerglings. Even if you did it for ten hatcheries, you could afford a single pair of zerglings.

[@soulofshukaku]

Creep! I saw creep! Hip hip! Hooray! Nice creeping in g1 (haven't seen the rest yet, but i wanted to say it now.)

[@lastleft5809]

Hey Mark, has anyone challenged you to do Speedless Zerg to Grandmaster? No creep, no speed upgrades.

[@Name-ru1kt]

I don’t think this is possible unless you just like nydus every game or a super greedy muta rush.

[@lambdasixtwo8808]

That 1st game was soo good, too bad terran always scan when they want to cross sight blockers cuz otherwise you might have caught more cyclones in traps

[@GatoShifu]

Yo wassup

[@tiaanmunnik]

* burrows ultras in sensor tower range * * gets scanned * "This guy is very fortunate!" 😂 Can't blame you for not realizing in the moment though hehe

[@borischan5252]

it's not unfortunate, he just kept burrowing at where Terran would normally scan, like behind the tall grass. He should have burrow a bit further in front where they usually dont scan

[@mangoe9523]

you mined the mineral with the drone? ive seen you do it on scv and thats been a nice thing for me but was the drone just a force of habit? or is there something im missing

[@mangoe9523]

im talking about on the first expansion btw

[@zeus04]

we are now at the point where these episodes contains 100% GM smurfs...

[@mikeyzmtg]

Hey what happened to that intro nuke scene? I miss it

[@powerfountain8761]

That guy must've had like 30 factories.

[@xavierreigneau41]

12:05 is what you came here for.

[@johnsyborg]

Man i cant even watch gsl anymore you are just so much more entertaining 🎉

[@BernhardVoogenberger-tl5ox]

God days, bad days.... I can always look forward to your games. Thank you for that!

[@mattmbx5472]

Damn.. Harmstem must be full of himself after that 😂 IF ANYONE find the Harmstem POV of that game if its somewhere please reply here with the link, i cant find it.

[@artemirrlazaris7406]

The only mistake I see here, is spine crawlers take a long time to burrow... you already had a hatch, but if you built atleast 3 spines always matched, his spine crawlers can't hit your mineral line. Probably has 4 drones at home.. 12 drone pull or 16.. from 20 and then lings... but I always like pool first becasue it gives power, and queen access. Next time you see spine rush, build spine crawlers in equal ammount, asap, out side of the range of their spine crawlers. This allows you to stop anyone from attacking you or moving in on you.. and perhaps take the second base. the other option is a sneak drone ,but its obvious he waited for your hatchery, to be done, so you couldn't use those needed resources. your fighting in a 300 mineral defecit, but you can win since, you are mining about 20 seconds longer, so and you ahve larva ... produced that is more.... The defense to this strategy as z vs z, is match the spine crawlers outside of range so it costs him to attack you, you build your spine crawlers in a surface area, or mineral block, meaning ot limit surface area, and you can make alley for your queen also... now even if you lose the upper hatchery yo ucan build another one in your crawler that is offset and annoying but still mine. Pumping out queens was a great idea. Queens and lings... I htink ti was possible to defend this, jsut you had a trickle defense, which is a main weakness ot any group.... Alterantively you build, banneling nest and two spine crawlers out of range and make an alley for your queen to hide, IE maximize.. baneling is for ling defence like a couple, but if you ahve spines, it will take up your opponenets time and give more HP to your lings... as yo ucan see his crawlers really out performed your lings simpyl because of their hp pool, and if he queen walked it would be game over... regen on a spine crawler, epic... so yeha , mathc spine crawlers and infuse spine crawlers. main thing is wach minerals and hatcheries.... don't mind losing them. and you should balaNCE OUT with teh cralers and start saving for a new hatch... but at that poitn this player would probably tap.... or stay in since its 1 v 1. Z vs z... with aggressive crawler... you match, when it gets in... alternativly if you see or caught this you tripple evo and make a wall so they can't build any cralers in your creep... and then you build crawler behind and queens and macro up... z v z havinga spy is important.

[@bozydarziemniak1853]

such zerg cheese is countered by same move: you need to spam your lings asap and do same amount of spines as he doing + pull all your drones

[@tremolo6940]

man even when he loses, he's still a legend

[@Zekses]

I don't see what's so great about ling burrow plays. They only trade good if you catch your opponent and strictly a waste of units whenever they try to catch up to cyclones which this game demonstrated really well. if anything, the ling play ensured Marc was behind on the economy and can't make anything happen. There was no damage done to the enemy economy because those couldn't ever efficiently run into terran's bases without gettiing slaughtered by cyclones whereas cyclones could run into his bases and erase them pretty much for free as he had nothing to fight them with

[@DanielDem87]

Thermy didn't recognize how insanely good the first terran was :) ? I dont think thermy was unfortunate at all lol.

[@kbparkbjj]

everyone saying he got lucky with the scans on the ultras or uthermal was burrowing them in the same spots, but he was burrowing them in range of the sensor towers......

[@Skyavatar]

Marc? spreading creep? the year is ending! wait.. it is ending!.

[@Krethak]

When he found your Ultra's you where running into the range of a Sensor Tower, so of course he knew you where there :x Apart of that let me say this: That ONE game where you actually do a decent job of spreading creep it's detrimental to your strategy :D

[@ryanwilson5842]

The voice cracking in this episode is real

[@Burnlit1337]

I don't play ladder but I thought fungal stops them from moving wtf. Are they called ensares now?

[@michaelmichaelsen3472]

wait why did he not kill that base. Then he said tank you and that cracked me up

[@Diablo-pl7jo]

I kinda want him to do that challenge again with banelings

[@Scawtsauce]

when the cyclone locks on to infestors burrow

[@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer]

That was a lot of fun. Thanks.

[@DarkTemplar42]

Marc Spreading creep in the first game!? Unheard of!

[@TheGreenTaco999]

16:29 that's not luck, scanning where you're pushing is intelligent gaming

[@mh1593]

@16:50 it's not luck at all, you burrowed right behind sight blockers.

[@anotharoundboi]

I would say. . not really unfortunate because you were starting to habitually burrow right outside of creep. so his guess scans looked "good". But I dont know. . . maybe burrow a bit aways from the edge of the creep? Other than that I think you could have made the play work! Looking forward to a perfected or as perfect as it can be burrow ling strat. :))

[@deneblm5409]

please more videos of starcraft , just i found you channel and im a new sub

[@camulusmagnus]

On seeing the title for this video I was expecting Baneling mines, not a Zergling swarm.

[@dmytrozazulin1858]

why havent you built spine crawler yourself?

[@clognchp]

Uthermal playing Zerg or Toss seems evil and not right.

[@eugenabelb1492]

Can you capture a drone? Make your own Marines?

[@silenthenkie7956]

this dudes words per minute is higher then his apm, holy crap, he never ever shuts up

[@Neceros]

I wonder why other people don't burrow more. It's so powerful...

[@justinhowe3878]

game 1: when the widow mine one trick plays zerg

[@TheTodesrolle]

well fighting big gabe with memes even when he memes too is pretty hard

[@dynosaysrawr9540]

You lose -125 MMR from losing one game?!?!?! I cry about losing -20 MMR in platinum 😅

[@alanlunna9966]

I love that your name is cheese backwards

[@pinkfloyddwc]

Harstem did the build that solar did on dark in gsl I think

[@arhonvalran1551]

Where i can see this battle from Harstem point of view?

[@leafykille]

Wow, this is probably the strangest video I have seen from you yet. And that's saying something!

[@garynemis9041]

Is there some issue with the microphone going on? does anyone else think its sounding weird for some reason?

[@KurmisTheAllMighty]

Now there is link fishing mini game in SCII Swarm is the answer ^^

[@2underground4u]

You burrowed your ultras inside his senser tower

[@reptileepik623]

Много не понимаю в силу своего несовершенного английского. Но как же я тебя обожаю мужик. Тебя и Алекса. Я пепега в старкрафте. Но как же я обожаю ваши ролики

[@davidelrizzo]

Proud to see Thermy actually spreading creep 😂

[@derpysean1072]

Me struggling at gold with 6 control groups. Until I see Mr. Lil Bit plays GM with 2 control groups. I no longer play the game.

[@a.w.8216]

Thank you for CC. I love your games , but ur voice drives me nuts. GG keep it up

[@martinwinther6013]

2 GMs using cheese vs eachother

[@Nekoyashiki-san]

Thanks for the cheese. ^^

[@DrYmath]

"uh....?" dead.

[@Maxfisg22]

Honest feedback for uThermal. There are often times when I watch your videos where based on your reactions/comments it appears that your attacks, cheeses, strats, harassment are working as intended or more often than not better than intended only to find later on in the match, you were behind, not actually as advantaged as you sounded earlier and resulting in a loss that, while certainly regrettable and understandable but completely not expected by the viewer. It leaves me with a weird feeling of highs and lows and actually makes me stop watching. Having thought it through, I think the main reason is that when observing you do these weird / interesting play styles, the hype and excitement stems generally from them actually working. When they dont work, its sort of like finding out that eating ice cream with chopsticks doesn't actually work that well, go figure. I'm not sure if this is useful for you at all but figured hey I've been a long time viewer and maybe leaving a heart felt comment would be in order. Cheers and thanks for the mostly great content :)

[@dylansevitt]

What your actually experiencing is bad strats working sometimes only because uthermal is playing at a very low elo compared to where his mechanical skill should be at. So he's playing worse strats with very high risk, leading to very hit or miss encounters.

[@Maxfisg22]

@@dylansevitt Agreed. I think the disconnect for me is his own reactions and live interpretation at the time of. The "I can not believe that worked and killed 12 workers." usually gets translated to hey we're winning but within a minute or two, realizing we are actually massively behind despite the previous play is always a bit of a let down. It then changes the perception of the previous play where we watch uThermal spending precious APM on a play only to realize it was at perhaps the cost of the rest of the game. I'm nit picking here obviously but wanted to mention it in case it was helpful.

[@quitequiet5281]

Awesome game! Great Fun!!

[@krigla35]

Liked even before i clicked play

[@randoooooooooooom]

theres our immigrant bro

[@alexTorres-cs7co]

missleading title, it should be player get rekt by mass cyclones while triying to be sneaky and cheesie

[@joshdoldersum9132]

Marc you made so many creep tumors!!