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[@TLM4590]

As an officer myself I'll say this. It doesn't take the numerous hours of cqb, tactical, firearms, or whatever training to get this done. It doesn't take SWAT, Incident Command, and medical resources on standby. It takes the ability to walk and pull a trigger on a loaded gun. That's it. If you can't accept dying a hero over living a coward, there is no room for you in this profession.

[@robmorgan1214]

You don't even need the gun to be loaded or to even have a gun... Just the will to take a bullet for someone a lot more likely to be killed by that bullet.

[@TLM4590]

@@robmorgan1214 Can’t say your wrong. Which further supports the fact that these officers failed in protecting those they’re sworn to.

[@sammyg4806]

Yep, basically balls and the will to save innocents was needed. No Uvalde Police man that day had either.

[@metarugia3981]

It was just pure cowardice on all of those officers. Knowing kids are being shot at and dying in that classroom and they have the means to stop the threat and didn't do jack sh*t.

[@seanbarrett9143]

So spot on brother! As a LEO myself and 21 year veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan I would have been fighting other officers to go thru that door ASAP, like within 60 seconds. So many cowards in these videos we are seeing, it is a absolute disgrace to the profession.

[@TachiTekmo]

Just the fact that a local civilian was illegally detained, talked her way out of the cuffs, JUMPED THE FENCE AND RAN INTO THE ACHOOL AND RESCUED HER DAUGHTER AND ESCAPED shows the malicious incompetence and abject cowardice of all these so-called "officers." I hope they get sued to hell.

[@joelmeyers451]

EXACTLY!!

[@DoctorAkinpelu]

Someone needs to get that mother an application for the police department. From her actions, she sounds like she's 100% more competent and courageous to do the job than the entire Uvalde police department.

[@jasonoshima6839]

And the local pd harass her to this day...losers

[@megalodon6789]

The police department went on to harass that mother for speaking out. It's disgusting and horrifying.

[@baconknightt]

I wish they would, but USSC rulings have said cops are not lawfully bound to risk their lives to save yours. So, like the parkland Florida SRO, they'll get their job back

[@TheMrmoc7]

The mother who ran towards the sound of gun fire to save her own children did not have tactical gear, she did not have a shield, she didn't have firearm, and most likely had no training. She had the only thing that was necessary: Courage.

[@kutter_ttl6786]

What's sad is that she's getting harassed by the cops for her act of bravery.

[@missmarya747]

Shes a Mother thats what Most Mothers do protect our loved ones.

[@zangalus2005]

@@kutter_ttl6786 Yeah probably harassed because she made them look bad.

[@Iron-Bridge]

Ally her attitude to high quality training and she'd be an elite operator.

[@clumsyturtle8544]

@@kutter_ttl6786 She made them all look like the clowns they are. If I was her I'd tell them I have bigger balls than all of you. Woman should lord it over them when they come at her in my opinion.

[@bigncornfed1]

As a father and a Marine, I cannot wrap my head around the amount of cowardice the police officers showed.

[@davidburdett1920]

I’m only a father. And I just watched the video showing what happened. I said to my wife…. There are no men in that hallway. Training or not, a man would have did what he had to save those children. End of story. I was angry to see them stand there while kids were murdered. Just sick.

[@pamthetraveler7224]

There is a difference legally and in training from military to a police officer. I’ve known Barney Fife types. Because they are different is why the Supreme Court upheld DC Appeal Court ruling that officer have no specific legal duty to protect. They aren’t military with your training and contractual commitment to put your life in the line. Some do but it’s not legally required. They are certainly cowards or morons though

[@LegitVoltron5739]

Really ? you must not have dealt with many police officers. Cowardice is their strongest personality trait besides ego driven aggression.

[@kintsukuroi6300]

What happen in Uvalde has nothing to do with cowardice and the whole situation brings up a very important point and it goes across many professions is the mentality/readiness to perform a job in a stressful/emergency situation. For instance a medical student does not have the capabilities to be a doctor if they freeze the moment they see a patient collapse and cannot immediately go into assessment mode. The person can be an excellent student with perfect scores in exams but if the person does not have the mental capacity then all the book knowledge will not be of any help. Uvalde is an issue of lack of training and BAD recruitment policies. In the USA there should be psychometric testing/assessments for certain professions specially those involving the welfare of society. But what can one expect? when there is active recruitment of military reserves with a past history of anxiety, depression and suicide attempts with hospitalization. Incredible but it is taking place people with mental/emotional instability getting into positions that require making stressful decisions that will impact others in society. Uvalde is the tip of the iceberg in the hiring/training policies across many professions that impact USA society. But such is the mentality in the USA letting people graduate and practice important professions that impact peoples life with a C average score or "affirmative action legislation" let in someone without the ability/capability/talent in order to fulfill the quota.

[@daviddavis3229]

As a father and a Marine I agree,the whole police department are cowards,if I was an officer there I would have gone in and it wouldn't have been an hesitation,the Uvalde Police are cowards and if they would like to respond man up and say something.

[@rdean150]

A little boy who was in the room hiding said that at one point, police called out through the walls for any survivors to shout for help so the officers would know there were survivors to rescue. A little girl responded, crying out for help. When she did so, the shooter walked over to her and shot her. So I find it very hard to believe that the officers in the hallway thought the shooter was barricaded alone.

[@PRC533]

@Max Passion I remember this account being published early on. It's just another example of complete incompetence shown by every LEO on scene.

[@falconquest2068]

I'm not a police officer and I can tell you that is an incredibly stupid thing to do if it is true.

[@BrandyH-eh9up]

Right. I don’t believe anything they say at this point

[@martyndyson9501]

Its as if everyone in those rooms were sacrificed for the sole reason of keeping the shooter blocked off in the room with no escape! And as for those men in the corridors outside the room to claim they did not know children were in their dead and dying, its a school within school hours, what are the chances children might be in the rooms? Its a big fucking chance if you use your brain, and are they trying to claim that no one in the corridor managed to get a quick look through the glass window on the door, or even from a window outside for over an hour!! In that hour how many times could someone sneek up or run around to the outside for a look? But not only that why did no ask the office staff at the school, they would have know what teachers and what students would be in those rooms at that time of day!! I heard that as officers turned up they were sent on crowd control, in other words go keep the other children and teachers out of the way by either confining them or evacuating them, i can just imagine those cops ignoring staff who wanted to help by giving valuable information, things like who was in those rooms, how many, if keys were needed, i bet they was rushed off to a safe place! The communication was terrible, i also heard that not only did 7 of the 8 forces that attended their radios did not work inside but also the school responder who works at the school and is their for this exact thing his radio only worked when he left the buildings, whats the point in that!!

[@MrHenryPope]

@Max Passion it is FACTS. The day after this occurred that child witness was interviewed and stated as much to the reporter. I watched the report myself.

[@ChasingMayzie]

Someone commented elsewhere that it would have been better if law enforcement never showed up, and I think that's true. Parents would have rushed in immediately and stopped the shooter or died trying. That's such a sad truth to reckon with.

[@Jeff-S-Grimes]

Shouldn't be that way but it was that way that day the video clearly proves your point

[@jll9764]

Armed parents would've done a better job 100x over

[@cdaworldz]

The cops were stopping the parents and even handcuff some like what?!

[@donwaters9991]

it sounded foolish when people first said it, but I say defund and send in a social worker. they sure couldn't have done worse.

[@rachelgarcia4301]

EXACTLY

[@Gideon94NC]

It’s not a “training” issue, this is wholeheartedly a character and morals issue with those who were in the position to do what was needed and refused to do so.

[@camillahunt3247]

It's a training issue as well. You can have all the courage in the world but you still need tactics and preparation. It's only logical.

[@HominaHubba]

@@camillahunt3247 Kind of irrelevant how much training you have if you’re a COWARD though.

[@dishonoredundead]

Because for the last 25 years the only thing cops have cared about is petty, victimless crime enforcing, and them going home at night. Not only did anyone paying attention expect the profession to become this after decades of uselessness and self preservation, the police themselves went home thinking "we did a good job, this is what the public wants us to do". Because no matter what they do, massive swaths of the population congratulate them on making it home to their cozy pension above all. They are a liability at this point, they exist to protect themselves, which defeats the supposed purpose of them existing at all, when you asking for help is just as likely to get you harmed, killed, or arrested in the process.

[@HominaHubba]

@@camillahunt3247 and no, you don’t NEED extensive training to do the right thing here. Active shooters have been stopped by untrained civilians multiple times. So training helps, but what’s needed is bravery.

[@Icanseeyoupee]

Incorrect my friend. The clusterfuck in the hallway shows the severe lack of training, shit, they couldn't even stack up right. Not going in regardless of that training is pure cowardice. So put that all together and lives get lost. Sad because active shooter exercises have been going on for over a decade. That response should be perfect, their response weren't. That's jailtime folks.

[@godcarstoolsandfun4089]

My wife’s little brother was one of the surviving victims in room 112. We have absolutely lawyered up, but this is going to be a years long process. Please pray for my little buddy Noah. He took a round to the shoulder, but his mental toll will be hard long term.

[@emj342]

Thinking of your buddy Noah and your whole family....

[@WilhLou]

Wish all you the best. Noah will turn into a badass dude I'm sure!

[@godcarstoolsandfun4089]

@@WilhLou thanks bro! Really dig that comment. And yeah he has been doing great for Al he has been through. Thanks again!

[@vanessatorres886]

Prayers for Noah and my prayers to all those families who lost there poor babies that horrible day may God give you the strength to go on even when you can’t❤️🙏

[@Cole-o8w]

I hope your family is able to get some sort of restitution from the most embarrassing shift of cops in all of the western hemisphere. Kids are tough. Just be there for him and help him from falling into the David hogg rut. The professional victim rut.

[@InstructorMike]

That’s no excuse. They should have gone through the school and searched it. Immediate action rapid deployment does not call you to wait for anyone’s command. You get in and you begin to search the school with the intent to stop the shooter then backtrack to triage. That’s no excuse. I do not care that they did not have any information regarding what was going on. They had all the information they needed to get into action and rapidly move methodically throughout the school and clear those rooms. That is no excuse. At all

[@dillonpatterson4310]

Shit they didn't even find the teacher in the room next to them for like 15 minutes. They didn't clear anything, they didn't attempt to get a shot through the many windows, or even do some sort of recon through the window. It was an embarrassment.

[@rogercrouch5866]

Totally agree with you 💯 percent !

[@BrianT175]

That doesn't make sense. They arrive on scene, they know the location of the shooter, and are told it's a barricaded shooter situation. It's not unreasonable with that information to do what they did. This doesn't absolve the officers that arrived first. This is strictly talking about the BORTAC agents that arrived nearly 45 mins later and were the ones to breach.

[@norkfox464]

@@BrianT175 He was actively cooking off rounds. if the officers are not getting shot at they fucking know what happening. shit take friend he was not a barricaded suspect. he was a school shooter doesn't matter if he is barricaded or not. you stop the killing. no matter the cost

[@norkfox464]

@@BrianT175 All say this twice. He was actively cooking off rounds. if the officers are not getting shot at they fucking know what happening. shit take friend he was not a barricaded suspect. he was a school shooter doesn't matter if he is barricaded or not. you stop the killing. no matter the cost

[@ddevineisofine]

When you hear about the mother that snuck in and got her kids… no guns, no training just ran in for her kids.. that tells you all you need to know.

[@RobertELee420]

no , it really doesnt.

[@luckygargoyle4881]

I saw the raw video of her. LOL she just grabbed her kids from a group of other children. She makes one of them stand alone while she runs off to get her other child. The guy that was just there filming the indecent ended taking care of the 1st child as it was wondering off. Yeah super hero, right. I do understand her worry though. Not like she aborted her children. Can't say how I would have handled it.

[@Ramsoholic]

@@luckygargoyle4881 where’s video ?

[@apexreactions4231]

@Windowseal Your logic is the one that is poor and laughable. To her, anywhere in the school she went might as well have been walking right into the shooter. If you thought about it from her position for even half a second you would have realized that everywhere in the school was just as dangerous as where he actually was.

[@cmo5807]

Its almost unreal the people saying she didnt do nothing special... her kids are alive arent they? How many of you would had went in with no weapons and with cops telling you no? You all on here being keyboard warriors must live very very sad lives and I feel bad for you.

[@ourvaneatus6526]

When my son was attending elementary school, the policy there was that the children would huddle in one of the corners of classroom. One day, during an active shooter drill my son refused to go to the corner, instead ram to the window and jumped out of it. Do what you need to do to survive.

[@nckhed]

Huddle into a corner? That would be like shooting fish in a barrel. Sounds like whoever came up with that policy wants more lives to be lost.

[@cryptoico2647]

Well, I gave my 5 yrs old son a 9mm. Y'all better not snitch on him because one day he could be the classroom savior XD

[@ryanhubbard1070]

@@cryptoico2647 Lets just hope he's the savior and not...

[@PrentissYeates]

I have been trained as a special Ed teacher to barricade the door with everything available and to gather up your chicks and hide in a corner behind my desk. But I still believe that waiting for someone to breach the door and pushing through the junk in front of the door to kill us, can allow me to bust out a window and start throwing kids out the window. I just can’t crouch and wait for my kids to be killed when we can leave the room instead.

[@smdursoii]

I've given my 10 yr old son that exact advice. If someone is shooting in the hallways and you're in the classroom, jump out that window, no matter what the teacher says. A large group of people confined to a classroom is a target rich environment if a shooter is able to enter.

[@liligirl00]

As a teacher in Texas, we go through hours and sometimes days of active shooter training. Any kindergarten teacher would have better protected those poor children who were killed. Those cowardly bastards. May they forever be ashamed of themselves.

[@norrinradd8923]

"would have better protected"???? um I don't expect any kindergarten teacher to have tactical training...... so far no teacher has ever taken out a shooter in school

[@primate4]

You should become an officer and lead by example!!!! Talk is cheap!!!!

[@Havoc0014]

@@primate4 Get out of here with that weak ass shit. She has a right to say what she said, she is a teacher in the same state. If this was her school she could be the one dead. Those officers failed everyone in that situation. They did become officers they swore an oath to protect and serve and they didn't do dick. That is literally the reason this video was made that you are commenting on.

[@amy109]

@@primate4 no. Arm the teachers who are able to be armed.

[@maryramirezgreene1455]

I have been an elementary school teacher for 25 years. I can assure you that those two teachers that died in those two classrooms did so while shielding their students with their own bodies or charging that madman. It’s part of the job.

[@shushyshushy6762]

"Lack of training" Meanwhile, a mom with absolutely no training at all, was willing to put her life on the line to save her kids, and saved a whole classroom of students and led them out... Yet all these trained cops with their tactical gear, A-15s and shields sat at the opposite end of the hallway while 6 more shots rang out from a classroom meaning 6 more people lost their lives, cause the cops were cowards shaking in their boots and put their lives before the lives of children, I hope these cops have nightmares, they are a disgrace to all law enforcement who are willing to take a bullet, a disgrace to all the officers who have taken bullets and lost their lives in the line of duty, they are a disgrace to all the families of all fallen heroes across this country and around the world. That infuriates me to no end... Every officer from Uvalde needs to step back and reconsider why they became a cop, and then relinquish their positions as officers and let real men and women take their jobs.

[@joebombero1]

They should be charged and prosecuted as accessories- plain and simple.

[@dreed7312]

Ditto

[@shanepurcell8116]

This isn't a problem with training. That's a red herring. They had more than enough training. This is a culture issue surrounding our police, more than anything regarding training.

[@seasontotasty]

@@shanepurcell8116 I can understand your point that ‘insufficient training’ shouldn’t be used to deflect from the real issue, which is cowardice. Still, most SWAT teams in the U.S. are playing toy soldier. They want all the high-speed shit, none of the commitment to mastering it. LE organizations in the U.S are a fucking joke. No standards. No PT. No user-level weapons maintenance. No rotating CQ. No cut-off scores. And as a result: no discipline. Source: I did 6 years as an active-duty light infantryman. 4/31 IN.

[@blahblah8037]

False flag

[@Dennisthemenace40]

As an ordinary civilian, I can’t imagine being there and NOT going after someone who so viciously and cowardly murdered absolutely defenseless children. Asking for permission to shoot that SOB, seriously?!!! I can remember when cops were MEN instead of LARPing cowards giving their community a false sense of security. How many more communities are vulnerable because of similar conditions? I pray that we don’t have to know.

[@silverblade357]

Beurocarcy: "You don't have clearance to shoot them yet!" Any Good Cop: "So?! What court would convict me for shooting a spree shooter?!"

[@BlueMax717]

@@silverblade357 Ask the cops facing 12 years in prison for accidentally shooting a girl during an active shooter situation on school property. You don't always have to be convicted in order to have your life ruined over some dumb shit. Ask the Atlanta DA, Michigan DA, Connecticut DA, California DA, philly DA, Georgia DA, SC DA. Granted I wouldn't become a cop to begin with but I damn sure wouldn't kick the door in on a room of like 30 hostages on a hope and a dream I don't accidentally shoot a kid and expect the current politics to not start frothing at the mouth to ruin my life. Shit is horrible to say but it is what it is. I am all about holding police accountable but states are stretching now trying to save their political careers for frying cops. I rather kick the door in on criminals all day long than face the public's opinion and leave my faith up to a politician.

[@DMHal01]

Join the force and be the difference then…would love to see spring to action. 🙄

[@mcqueenx75]

I am a man with no need of guns. I like many have learned many self defense skills and if there's anything to prove from that, guns don't scare me. We all were kids once. How horrifying would it be for us to experience. Why did these kids have to experience it when it was preventable? I can damn sure tell you also as a deaf man I couldn't imagine how... words can't describe the sheer terrifying screams they have let out. But I would have run in there myself to save my kids if they were there no matter if I were killed. These cowards in bulletproof vests all need to be hung by their fucking balls. Oh and the victims should put liens on everything these cops own. All of them. Civil asset forfeiture all these cops bare of anything they own and throw them in prison. Let the wolves devour them and let these cowards meet the devil in the end.

[@lace1245]

@@DMHal01 here’s the thing: I’m 100% in support of law enforcement. I have many, many friends in law enforcement and work alongside them, myself. That being said, I have also been through police training and am aware that they are heavily educated in these types of scenarios. It isn’t solely the fact that they didn’t shoot on the spot, but the fact that they didn’t even know who was in charge, the chief threw his radio down in order to “run faster,” the number of lives they could’ve saved by using their heads, etc. While I’m very aware that they are trained to make critical decisions on a dime, I am also aware that nothing can emotionally prepare someone for a scenario such as this. They can, however, and are trained to give and take clear and direct orders under pressure. They are also aware that their job isn’t rainbows and butterflies. If you can’t handle high stress situations, don’t put on the uniform to act tough, only until it’s time to get tough.

[@AnalysisofaCrimewithCD]

Retired Police officer from NY. This is the WORST failure in the history of law enforcement. I was a 9/11 first responder and what I witnessed and was involved in on that day was pure heroism from NYPD and all LE on scene/FD/Ems and even many civilians. Everyone that I have worked with in my career would have taken that door with me, all knowing that one of us might not make it out. That is the oath we took. What we are witnessing from all the body cam footage is pure cowardice. They can try and blame bad communication but they knew what happened in the classroom down to the offices wife being shot. 10+ agencies from local/state and federal agencies and in an active shooter scenario where injuries/casualties every second counts and they waited 4200+ seconds(think about it as 4200 seconds.) Beyond disturbed that the first 3 officers who were shot at retreated for cover, but didn’t immediately formulate a plan and execute it instantly. I can go on and on about this failure. It just hurts to see brothers in blue not do what their training has taught them to do in an active shooter. The answer of why didn’t they act seems simple. They just didn’t have the balls to take that door and eliminate the threat. I am heartbroken for all the children/teachers tragically lost and their families.

[@norrinradd8923]

Amen.......

[@RachelsBadAssJamz64]

Thank you Sir, for your honesty, those are my thoughts exactly although I am not an officer, I am a person of what is right , what is good, the Truth , and of God. It certainly looks or appears these men acted cowardly because it would be much worse to know that they acted in such a way purposely, wanting and allowing these young children to be shredded up by the force of such a gun as they stood by while the shots rang out and children screamed and cried!!! Because they were just a bunch of mexican kids, yes it it very feasible! Maybe for a specific agenda and Mexican childrens lives are expandible to work whatever their plan maybe. We do know what these men , cops did was unacceptable!!! A total disgrace and insult to what the Police force once stood for! An embarrassment to what was once a highly esteemed and honorable force an insult and embarrassment to all the real policemen who made their oath and meant something to them and who live by that Oath and will die for it.

[@AnalysisofaCrimewithCD]

@@RachelsBadAssJamz64 I agree with a lot of your thoughts but race wasn’t one of them. Many of the officers there are of Mexican/Latino decent. I promise you Police officers do not see color when doing our job. I never did. I was a 9/11 first responder and have carried two children out of a fire. You do not see color. We don’t think or feel the fear in the moment, after the call is over 100% you know how bad a call could have went. What these guys did is an epic failure because they didn’t do anything. Seconds matter, each tick of the clock and they waited and waited. Shields and long guns were there within minutes and still nothing. In the Sgts body cam you can see the nerves. They thought the shooter might have escaped into the ceiling as border patrol was making entry. I have never seen something so horrible in my life when it comes to LE failing to act.

[@AnalysisofaCrimewithCD]

@@RachelsBadAssJamz64 I also don’t think for a second that any male/female officer that I worked with wouldn’t be right next to me making entry into that classroom. You know what has to be done, and they failed those babies.

[@AnalysisofaCrimewithCD]

@@norrinradd8923 thank you 🙏🏼

[@TheKnightofold]

The idea that they were never informed that there were any casualties in that situation seems extremely hard to believe. In the 30+ minutes leading up to it you had the man who’s wife was in there, you had the calls from the children, you had the whole team setting up for a mass-casualty event. And the agents had no idea?

[@culbyj3665]

yeah this vid seems like bs . Obviously mistakes and cowardice played a part but to say some of these things is literally egregious.

[@BeeTriggerBee]

Hes not saying calls for help didnt happen, What hes saying is that no one with a leading role gathered the info and relayed it to necessary channels. If the information stops at "King coward" out on the parking lot it might as well not have existed at all.

[@TheKnightofold]

@@culbyj3665 I agree with a majority of the video

[@chrisbordeaux575]

Absolutely right. They all knew. Theres no way they couldn't have known.

[@chrisbordeaux575]

@@BeeTriggerBee no way they didn't know the kids were still in there. The radio chatter, aswell as officers conversing back and forth. I know, ive been there. Im certainly not saying Mike is covering for anyone. He is simply relaying info he has been given. He probably calls bullshit on it himself.

[@shawnadkins9467]

When I went thru active shooter training initially in 2005 the procedure was to move to gunshots and eliminate threat. Don’t evacuate and don’t treat wounded. Attack the shooter. The hallway footage made me sick to my stomach.

[@debbiehale2509]

That's what our Academy teaches.

[@immikeurnot]

"don’t treat wounded" As I've heard a former SF soldier say many times: "there's no medicine in a gunfight."

[@wallywest2360]

Absolutely. The best thing you can do for the wounded is end the threat so EMTs can get in there and do their job.

[@shaneallen4431]

And that's still true today -- elimination of the threat is by far the highest priority, with as much resources dedicated to that as the situation requires. Providing aid to the wounded is a distant second unless there are additional, unneeded human resources beyond what the threat requires. Simple logic explains this process, thus the hallway video shows that the first responders were not considering the greater good that day, but instead chose to look out for their own well-being.

[@themarksmn4181]

Shawn, That's exactly how I was trained in 05-06. Assault towards the gunfire and eliminate the threat.

[@mrslug666]

There's no excuse man. If that school was on fire full of kids, would fire fighters stand outside until the flames were out to find someone? I doubt it.

[@withoutfurtheradoforever]

excellent anology.

[@JayDubb3BCT]

Well said.

[@vitodiamico910]

100!!

[@Kektamusprime]

100% agree get the fuck in there and do what is needed

[@sbd5983]

Best way to put it

[@JesusisLORD77778]

If they're not willing to risk it all for kids' lives, they have reduced the profession to that of a tax collector. This particular guy became a barricaded shooter because he was allowed enough time to do so. 3 officers could have breached and overwhelmed the suspect with minimal team training, which it appears this dept does not do well enough or at all.. Dozens of officers were walking around with no organization, SOP execution, or action(because no one who was willing to act knew wtf was happening). He had him in his sights and didn't take the shot...... Just a giant sh*tshow all around. Good summary. The lessons learned on this AAR could be a mile long, because not much was done right. Leadership and training failure is at the peak of problems, clearly.

[@lordjaraxxus5418]

the thing is, police were never professionals. it goes against the chain of command structure. professionals have standards, which interferes with orders.

[@brettscott3759]

@@lordjaraxxus5418 damn dude that's actually pretty accurate....

[@Mike_Jones68]

Agree here. Def reduced to tax collectors, especially these officers. It's easy to armchair qtrback, but when they denied parents willing to trade their lives for their kids, game over. Tax collection service, nothing more.

[@LoiteringReaper]

I also believe that there was no communication system in place for talking between different units. My unit handles our's business and your's handle yours under your chain of command.

[@mitchellkuta5405]

I may be wrong but thought I heard they had just done some active shooter training. Heard this but never verified

[@etal.strength]

My husband and I learned a lot from this. Most importantly, it reaffirmed our belief in training ourselves and family to be our own first responders.

[@candle_eatist]

When seconds matter, help is gonna stand by your door and wait until all of you have died to enter. Stay safe, and be ready.

[@Im_Old_Gregg]

In my humble and admittedly inexperienced opinion, it doesn't take training to know what has to be done in this situation. The training would make the officers more effective and efficient but any reasonable person knows what to do in that situation. Having the courage to do it is a different story.

[@Kektamusprime]

exactly right every adult should instinctively try to save kids no matter what, you dont need to be told to do that

[@JG54206]

Agreed. There’s a difference between having the authority to do something legally, and then there’s knowing what the right thing is to do because you have certain ethics and morals.

[@genejennings7375]

Agreed, the passengers on Flight 93 had no training or gear and they manned up and did what was necessary to save lives.

[@Barnes-ml9wg]

Because they were told to stand down

[@mikeGintheplacetobe]

Chicken sh!t cowards

[@djwaglmuffin]

I learned in the military that no amount of training is going to force a coward or the lazy into action.

[@Kid_Kootenay]

the military has honor and a sense of duty many police are in it for the power and to boss folks around when poop comes down you cannot count on that type of person

[@JRyan-lu5im]

In the Marines we had a Marine Farsi linguist who spent the entire work up moaning about going home, took every opportunity to be socializing with his wife than with our team. He hated the dirt, he hated the training, his wife convinced him to be vegan. I was thoroughly convinced that he'd have left us all for dead if it meant a gaurantee of going home to his own kids and wife and I voiced that. He couldn't be removed because there was no replacement for him. I am thankful that we didn't go into direct combat depending on him. Those people slime thier way into every profession they shouldn't be in.

[@jeremiah.a4891]

@@JRyan-lu5im Thankyall for y’all’s service. My dads a retired combat vet, 82nd airborne. He said the exact same thing about a lot of those lead guys. They slimed their way into rank. But they couldn’t lead a pile of ants towards the enemy, even if their life & family depended on it.

[@FosterC144]

Agreed, being a cop requires the same kind of mentality, it's just a fact, and if they aren't willing to do what is necessary, they've got no business being there Which is why cops need to undergo a true test to differentiate them from cowards or enforcers. Simple training is not enough

[@nogi2167]

There is no budget on earth big enough to buy spines for the spineless. Remember that when they come asking for your taxes.

[@gratedradish6699]

The whole "i'm going home to my family" mantra needs to end. You don't get to spray some dude carrying a stick with 20 rounds because you live in fear. You don't get to value police lives over civilian lives because you live in fear. If the police don't have enough balls to actually deal with threats then they don't deserve any authority or paycheck, you don't get to enforce the rules if you don't hold up your end of the bargain. I was never one of those 'defund the police' guys but if they are going to fail their basic duties then this departments funding should be slashed until they are ready to fire the people who failed these kids.

[@user-xk4gf9jz8c]

Agreed, its hard to imagine having a rifle in your hands, and a vest,with mountains of backup, and Not Engaging the shooter. Knowing you are in a school and hearing shots fired less than 100ft away. I just cannot understand

[@defreshh9961]

Right . What’s the point if their expertise is null and void to the situation.

[@ThePeachtree69]

I’m going home to my family, be safe out there, safety first, I didn’t sign up for this, officer safety is first…the common phrases they use so often to justify their illegal and cowardly acts to lay hands on citizens and put people in cuffs against the laws they’ve sworn to uphold. Pointing guns at civilians and brutalizing them because they got a call or someone else is scared. And this signals their desire to compromise their integrity and file charges against people because their safety has been so hyped up over the actual laws they are supposed to enforce. Their priorities are out of order. Bless the brave that honor their oaths and future endeavor all the others.

[@seandafny]

Exactly!! To me it's kind of hard to criticize the police cause no one wants to do their job but at the same time THEY DON'T REALLY BE DOING THEIR JOB. like I watch alot of videos where police kill a guy and there's people vouching for them like yea the victim deserved it because they reached for the taser or they could have grabbed the officer's gun I'm like ok maybe if that was you then they can snatch a weapon away from you but to me an officer isn't supposed to be some everyday pussy where a regular dude even has a slight chance of snatching something off of them. we have to hold police to a higher standard it sucks because they are human too but they acknowledge this burden when they take the job. In today's day and age it is perfectly fine to be a pussy that's what all this advancement and tech is for but don't get a job where a badge, gun, or any other symbol of authority gives you an excuse/cover to be a pussy

[@user-xe5jf6rt5m]

@@ThePeachtree69 What i never understood is why police aren't held the same/similar standards of self defense that the citizens are. I can't just say someone was reaching for something or had something in their hand that looked like a gun and claim self defense. I must basically have someone draw a gun or charge with me with a weapon or i catch murder charge.

[@Blackopspenguin]

As former LEO I totally agree with your assessments. The whole thing makes me sick to my stomach and we should keep this disaster in the forefront so we don’t have it happen again. More discussion, more changes, more training, etc.

[@johnarat9618]

Hello there. Now that former UCISD police chief Pete Arredondo has been arrested, what do you think about his arrest?

[@MrBigmo84]

The Uvalde PD held active shooter training just a few weeks prior to the mass murder at Robb Elementary. They did not follow their training. Any time there is someone shooting in a school, it should be assumed there are children present and in danger. The cops and mass murderer are responsible for the lost lives.

[@erikhaw7313]

As soon as anyone disarms a society, the sole responsibility of defense lies on those that take away people’s right to effective self defense. It falls on those officers, the school, and the city. Yes one man committed evil, but the government is equally and even more accountable for failing at several steps. It wasn’t just at the shooting itself. It was all the red flags in which no action was taken.

[@Generali087]

You have to ask "what is the point of this training?"

[@rogersmith7808]

I'm curious what that training consisted of. Just classroom training or hands on scenarios or what? For the real world response to have gone that wrong I have a hard time believing it was anything more than classroom.

[@2ndAdvent888]

Clearly planned, let’s just be honest

[@TheUnholyPosole]

@@2ndAdvent888 ...kinda looks like it. The weirdo was possibly coxed into it, and the sheriff could have been told by FBI not to intervene. FBI could have had intentions of instigating the incident to justify a gn ban. We know the ruling class really do want to ban gns, and now's the time to try, with Mr potato head as president. Check out the book "Terror Factory" by Trevor Aaronson.

[@On-Our-Radar-24News]

Mike, the full video has been leaked and is on full display for anyone to watch, if you can. Personally, as a retired LEO for a large CA Sheriff's Department with 22 years of service, I am disgusted with what I saw on that video. These officers retreated from the sound of gunfire and stood around in safety for 77 minutes while you can hear the screams and repeated shots by the shooter. This was never a "barricaded" suspect situation. These responding officers fell back on their basic level of training as we all do in a crisis situation. Unfortunately, their basic level of training was nothing. These officers failed the fundamental test as a police officer. Will you give your life to save others. This is what we are sworn to do, if necessary. Yes, the first couple of officers through that door may get shot but it's the overall violence of action and overwhelming suppressive fire that will ultimately kill the shooter. You go to the sound of gunfire and you dont stop until the shooter is dead. This is especially true when 3rd and 4th graders are being slaughtered by high power rifle fire. Uvalde should be a wake up for every officer out there who isnt fully engaged and honest about the realities of the job. It doesn't matter where you work as a cop, small town or major city, the time may come for you to defend a innocent civilian with your life.

[@havenbastion]

Shoot to wound first, you tyrant. As a LEO, that person is still innocent to you until the courts say otherwise.

[@jimthyme4299]

Good comment.

[@va.cracker9318]

They failed the test of being a man nonetheless a police officer.

[@Anidoesstuff]

Atleast their hands were well santized 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@thesquadequalstraitors2273]

When good cops let bad cops exist, there are no good cops.

[@rognuald9007]

The University of Texas tower shooting in 66. Law enforcement and regular citizens responded by shooting up at the sniper, others got the injured away while being shot at. Two policeman and one citizen went up to the top of the tower to confront the shooter. One policeman fired his revolver and the other fired his shotgun, killing the shooter. None had special training or sophisticated equipment. And today, in Colorado, Florida and Uvalde, TX, law enforcement with ARs stand by and do nothing.

[@richarddeveas4537]

Well said!

[@TheChristonline]

Men !

[@erich7863]

Well put. Too many officers are all show and no go.

[@XDWX]

I have always said never outsource your safety to someone else. Cops, firefighters, and EMS are NOT first responders, YOU ARE. You are the first person that needs to respond to a situation. You better prepare yourself for doing so otherwise you will probably be disappointed by the second responders that you outsourced your safety to.

[@ChuckG17]

As a LEO in Pennsylvania who has taken several active shooter trainings, we have been taught to stop the threat immediately. Does not matter if you are 1 officer or have 5 officers you do not wait or ask for permission. This makes me angry and sick seeing these cowards stand around. I'm embarrassed these are LEO's.

[@MichaelJones-ww1wg]

Question, do you think that the times we are in now, (Increased hatred for police from bad officers actions (Floyd situation), woke culture, and et cetera), possibly led to the officers in this situation being more in fear of action? Or do you think it was just cowardice? I ask because of course many see it as them be cowardly, and I ponder on if we might see more of these type of actions from officers in the future. I probably just read into stuff too much, but I would think there has to be some cause and effect that comes into play regarding all of the hatred, regulations, restrictions and et cetera. For sure there was cowardice in play here, but I wonder if what I stated had some influence in that cowardice. Thank you for helping your community being an LEO.

[@youjustdontgetit8117]

It's pretty much FUCK YOUR ORDERS at this point...deal with the consequences after...

[@andrewcarlson2178]

@@MichaelJones-ww1wg that makes sense. If people are more and more saying "screw police officers" then they may be less likely to put their life on the line for citizens

[@halleschultz456]

@@andrewcarlson2178 if getting your feelings hurt by public sentiment is enough to make your shirk your duties then you shouldn't be a cop.

[@IFY0USEEKAY]

@@halleschultz456 I agree 100%. Had they acted differently (or at all), they might have been hailed as heroes...

[@jackmehoff1832]

In the Marines I was trained to put Mission before Man. That mentality was shared amongst my fellow Marines. We all understood that the Mission came first. The second it was understood that Children were in there every Officer in that School should have acted. On top of that if you are standing in a building and gunshots are going off you are in a gunfight and should act accordingly.

[@chrissysolorio3565]

Who approaches a gun fight then runs once shots are fired. 🙄 Somehow they didn't mentally prepare while approaching. Assuming he took his own life perhaps In a school setting, regardless if the gunman is in the the bathroom I would think you would have to assume there could be kids inside who are dying or at the very best hiding, terrified and in deadly danger.

[@devilghostface8798]

It sad allowed to happen and they were ordered to stand down . And why ? So some politicians could pass gun control laws. Prove me wrong .

[@cobracommander9138]

You don't understand the police top priority is "Officer Safety" they have to go home to their families. The police accomplished their mission no officer was shot that day. Only Blue Lives Matter not the kids life. In the Marines there is no such thing as "Marine Safety" Never heard anyone say hey we can't go in because of Marine Safety.

[@chrissysolorio3565]

@@cobracommander9138 well that one officer wasn't going home his wife regardless if she survived. Bet she would have kicked him to the curb. Just being honest

[@alexjessica5387]

@@chrissysolorio3565 I agree.

[@williemoreno7801]

I’m a retired Police Lieutenant with 14 out of my 30 as a member of my agency’s SWAT team. Your conclusion to date is spot on. All those officers that did nothing were Cowards and an Embarrassment to law enforcement. All of them have blood on their hands. I pray that they are held criminally. Even though nothing to ease the pain of the victims family.

[@Captain_Curt]

This is what happens when you’re leadership hires people not meant for the job. (Oh look a 4 year degree, he must be a good pick for a police officer) leadership is the issue. “Oh I have a family I don’t want to risk my life”. Same freaking thing happened at a active shooting in CA at a country bar. First on scene PD was having a mental breakdown behind the patrol car, refusing to go in while people were actively getting hit. So done with this crap leadership hiring the wrong people

[@vincentlee7359]

And now those very same officers are harassing the poor parents for being exposed. Tsk. Tsk. Tsk.

[@siruser23]

@@vincentlee7359 they’re asking to be put down. this whole thing stinks to high heaven. it’s heartbreaking and infuriating.

[@yourfinalhiringagency3890]

Tbf they didn’t “do nothing”. They detained anyone who would have engaged the shooter, therefore protecting him, for over an hour. Under texas law of parties they can be charged with the same crimes as the shooter.

[@tadpetrie3464]

Lt. Moreno, what I can't figure out is how out of all those men in the hall. There wasn't ONE willing to tell the scene commander to go to hell and go after the shooter, orders be damned! How is that possible?

[@clint2439]

I am a retired LEO and veteran. The problem we had and still have in Law Enforcement is not the training but that the majority can not think on their feet. Most have no decision making ability. Most can not distinguish between a lawful order and an unlawful order! There is no Chief, D.A., or politician that has the authority to tell a L.E.O. to stand down while a crime is being committed in their presence. L.E.O.'s authority comes from state law! The problem is that most L.E.O.'s do not know the law. Yes, they know the laws that they deal with on an everyday basis but most do not know where their authority derives. Most do not know of malfeasance and nonfeasance, and the difference. Most L.E.O.'s blindly follow orders through ignorance and a fear of retaliation or retribution after the fact. Most officers in this country have been properly trained but unfortunately are cowards to carry out that training and their duties when a SHTF plays out in the real world. There was a time in history when L.E.O.'s were like you military types. Type A personalities that could conduct business when necessary. Unfortunately, affirmative action and political correctness took over and now many people being hired should not be there. There was no purpose for the shields in this incident! Your weapon and aggression is your shield! Get your ass in there and stop the killing!

[@jasonpadilla4590]

Affirmative action, etc. are not the reason those officers failed... It was entirely their own lack of integrity and initiative. Yes, the culture in LE has changed to cause officers to fear litigation, or retributions from higher based on too strict adherence to policies, but this failure - at its base - is entirely the fault of those officers. Be pissed all you want at whomever, but do not absolve those on scene from their responsibilities as either LEOs, citizens or humans.

[@habibi750]

Regarding your first paragraph, I’m surprised by some the people my company hires. I have seen super educated graduates who can’t think. Like at all. You have to hold their hand. Then there are others who are completely opposite. And even teach this old dog some new tricks.

[@Miafunfactory]

Arm your selves..i trust Cartel Members more than white supremacists shock troops

[@ubiquitousatman4747]

Your were doing so well until the end. I cringe when fellow vets politicize. It just looks weak and narrow minded

[@clint2439]

@@ubiquitousatman4747 Then maybe you shouldn't read the comment section! I spent a little over 40 years in L.E.. The last 16 years were training new recruits in a liberal city that has not had a republican mayor since 1963. I am not going to sugar coat it so you don't get your feelings hurt. I have seen the recruits coming through. Many are being hired to fill mandated quotas. Many will tell you they are there for the benefits and no other reason. Part of my duties were to train mass shooting incidents, which I had been involved in. Some of the recruits openly told me they would not go into a situation like that but once hired, good luck getting them fired. I didn't create this mess! The American voter did! So if politics bother you maybe you need to research who you are voting for!

[@Badge-vo7hq]

Many years ago while training for active shooter response in a school using simunitions my weapon malfunctioned while entering a room to engage the shooter (being played by our swat commander) so I held back to try to get my weapon back in battery. The commander proceeded to tear me a new one and told me that it didn’t matter if I didn’t have a weapon that I still had my knife, baton, taser or even fists. Bottom line as a sworn officer you engage the shooter with any and everything you have and you end that threat. I’ve never forgotten that so I know these guys will always have to live with their lack of action. God bless the families of the children lost.

[@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692]

Your commander needs to stfu, if he tells you these things. But you probably made this up and you're not even a cop.

[@texan2u]

Gonna tell the "perp". HOLD ON A SEC, MY GUN JAMMED ???

[@boejiden1065]

That’s dumb as hell, it makes zero sense to run blindly towards a gunner over taking the proper 5-10 seconds to fix your weapon and move forward appropriately. You guys must suck…oh wait everyone in the comments claims to be a cop sooo

[@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692]

@@texan2u No, but there's a whole team of people not just one person entering the room. And a room of decent size you will have 0 chance with your "knife", "baton", and "taser", let alone triyng to bum rush them with your fists. You'll get dropped before you get close enough. Many (but not all) malfunctions take a split second to clear, so you let your team know and then you proceed. I wasn't a cop, but I was in the military and did a lot of urban training and cqb..

[@solodad7999]

You give everything you got.

[@ZeroHecks]

“Never out source your own security” was the main takeaway. This whole situation proves that the police are not coming to help/save you. 67 minutes of doing nothing is unacceptable.

[@darthnegrus9255]

Right so armed teachers.

[@thedoruk6324]

@@darthnegrus9255 nope

[@fishbate94]

Been saying that for years absolutely correct

[@trificullife8612]

Plenty of competent Veterans, men and women, willing to guard our children at schools, time to implement*

[@ZeroHecks]

@@trificullife8612 I fully agree. Use some of that money we keep sending to other countries, and employ some veterans.

[@1.1797]

Their lack of action when minutes meant life and death, resulted in lost lives. They need to be held accountable.

[@haveaday1812]

They won’t be you sheep. You don’t get it. You’re blind. The government is almost never held accountable. That includes the police. They are not above the law. They ARE the law they protect their own. You are so naive.

[@boygonewhoopdataZZ]

But they saved 99% of the school 😂. The kids in the conjoined classroom were as good as dead.

[@williamrunner6718]

The supervisors will be held accountable maybe, but they won't.

[@1.1797]

@turk762 yep. Just further proves the fact that we have but ourselves to rely on. Besides, police show up after the fact in most cases. Active shooter scenarios aside.

[@1.1797]

@@williamrunner6718 yea, they'll just resign and that'll be their slap on the wrist. Good luck getting a job doing anything else in that town. I can almost guarantee they'll be blacklisted. Their best bet will be to move away. Edit: im sure the aft will take them with wide open arms

[@moecool1157]

No one will be held accountable. As a native born Texan, I can only say shameful!

[@tonyk438]

Chief Arredondo has a bad discharge mark removed from his record because the city didn't show up. I agree, nothing will happen but the city will settle and pay the usual hush money.

[@d2a007]

So sad yet true.

[@djaramillo09]

Its not just Uvalde. Its every single officer that stepped foot inside the school. CBP, DHS & everyone as you said was extremely incompetent. Hopefully they reveal the names of all officers who were there!

[@bloodontheblade7988]

and their addresses too

[@foxpaw1]

We need their names to make sure "COWARD" is the top line on their gravestone

[@matthewmarshall6299]

tf dude thats some leftist bullshit wanting to dox and attack people at their homes, come to your senses

[@MsJimmysgirl]

did you not listen to a single thing this man said.... the local police officers that were on the scene from the beginning didn't inform any of the other government officers that were there that children were in that classroom. They gave the impression that it was just the shooter in that room and the 3 CBP officers that entered the room said they were shocked to see dead children.

[@djaramillo09]

@@MsJimmysgirl how about you watch the video again and countless interviews that retired Cheifs & LE officers gave. You think a small town like Uvalde has the toughest/smartest PD officer in the state of Texas? Who do you think takes charge when a higher agency gets involved on the scenes? Do some research before you post buddy

[@jpmccray6754]

Brave woman who dodged law enforcement has more balls than that entire police force!!!! God bless her. She saved her kids and one of their friends.

[@marrqi7wini54]

But now they (The Uvalde police) are harassing her.

[@logansfury]

Her name is Angeli Gomez. She needs help. She is being terrorized by Uvalde police that are keeping marked cars parked around her house 24/7, shining spotlights on her house at night, following her around during the day, and calling her repeatedly to threaten her with arrest for "interfering with an active investigation". You all caught that right? It was a slaughter of children and adults which the police want to semantically de-escalate into an "active investigation"

[@Bob_Bob_B0b]

She interfered with their plans. This was a set up. These sick bastards either were in on this or they were grossly incompetent cowards.

[@jeanpaulmichell7243]

Serious question: what can this woman ( and the people of Uvalde ) do to get even a facsimile of justice? How can they effectively take the police and councilmen to account for the egregious failure? If it was MY child in there..... I don't know, but it may have involved violent retribution. I'm sorry but I cannot rule that out, even as I know it isn't the 'right' way. It is truly mind-boggling.

[@cjbecker1683]

Momma Bear 👍 I still wonder how many of those cops were fathers.......I can't imagine doing nothing as shots kept being fired 😢

[@allen_p]

The Columbine high school shooting taught the lesson to move in immediately. As a former teacher who went through lockdowns each of my twelve years as a teacher I just can't fathom not responding. I stopped a man in a hallway who was intending to take a girl off our campus. I had no gun or weapon, but that man was not going to get past me. Every school I taught at had all interior doors locked and student's knew they were not allowed to open a door with out my permission. Our outside doors stayed locked. I'm just heartbroken.

[@tiredofthetyranny9874]

Yes I am very bothered and concerned as to WHY was this door unlocked? I honestly believe there is something sinister going on here! I am starting to think somehow these “school shootings” aren’t just happening……

[@tylergarrison3848]

@@tiredofthetyranny9874 yet when alex jones said this everyone called him a conspiracy theriost and even sued him for defamation

[@stuartburns8657]

That sounds like a prison, not a school. The fear you US citizens must unconsciously live with must be crippling :(

[@kerbalairforce8802]

Rock in the door because a teacher *had* to have a smoke break.

[@otallono]

Most people do not learn from history which is why most of the time it repeats itself. If they did, they wouldn't still be voting democrat and living in their run down crime ridden cities.

[@cwolff5119]

We now have the: 1. The time stamped video 2. The Texas government written report 3. The Chief, DPS testimony at the Texas Senate hearing 4. The ALERT report These events occur stunningly fast. 100 rounds fired in the classroom in a few minutes. A 3 man team went down the hall to breach within minutes of the Bad Guy entry. When he fired through wall/door, they ran. The ALERT report BTW was wrong on an officer asking permission to shoot. What we're left with is a perfect example of 'target fixation'..... 376 officers couldn't 'see' 2 unlocked doors or 4 windows into the 2 joined classrooms. Luckily, the shooter stayed in the classroom and didn't go down the hall to more classrooms. Sadly, Congress hasn't addressed the systemic issues and is not developing programmatic countermeasures for future events. Read about the Virginia Tech shooting.

[@jackrapp6787]

that officer whose wife died was no 'rookie' as Mike supposed...he had 3 service stripes on his left sleeve indicating at least 15 years of service, yet he did nothing. I was a Honolulu Police Officer 27 years and I can tell you that if it had been my wife who got shot, I would be going into the class with only one intent and no one short of shooting me would have stopped me. I would have told that 'no balls' Chief to fire me if he wanted but I'm still going in. I have known several cowards in the Police Department in my career...the biggest one that I remember was a Sergeant in Waianae named David Primiano, who wouldn't even exit his car when we responded to large fights / riots. He was a 'chicken shit' for sure.

[@nicholascoker7212]

I heard in the hearing he did attempt to go in but was disarmed and detained by the other officers, came out in the initial hearing from the investigator. Donut operator has a vid on it

[@professoredit]

In every mass shooting video I've seen the cops always just stand around trying to act busy. The truth is nobody who isn't crazy wants to deal with this and crazy people just don't make very good cops. It's almost like we need gun control or something.

[@facepalmdaily4404]

@@professoredit Gun violence is a symptom of a much bigger disease. You don't treat cancer with a multivitamin

[@professoredit]

@@facepalmdaily4404 If you watch the Las Vegas shooting the cops stood around in the hallway for almost an hour even after the shooter killed himself.

[@Furious321]

@@professoredit That was because they believed the barricaded door(s) were booby-trapped. Not really a circumstance that can be rushed into.

[@wb2194]

I was an Emergency Management Officer in a large metro level 3 trauma center. I spent 6 months planning an active shooter exercise. A week before the exercise I had to brief the Vice President level execs on the plan and objectives of the exercise. ONE of the VPs canceled the entire exercise because he didn't want people to feel "unsafe" at work. Two months later we had a shooting involving a patient and disgruntled family member. It was then I was investigated because we hadn't conducted an active shooter exercise. I didn't get fired because I had extensive planning documentation and meeting minutes.

[@klxzz]

Did they look into the VP for cancelling the entire thing?

[@kakyointhemilfhunter4273]

@@klxzz Doubt it

[@danielcorsino]

So axe the vp who was a 🐱. And selfish

[@Nobody13325]

That is why there needs to be a complete organizational separation. Between admins and any security protocols as to how and when they are planned and executed.

[@catadjusterZ]

Hello my friend, I graduated last year with a Bachelor's degree in Emergency Management. Any advice on how to reach out to those with the power to hire. I have not received a single response from a USAJOBS posting

[@MrJaybeezy123]

They knew kids were in there. A surviving kid did an interview where he talked about the cops shouting to the kids to say help. One girl said help and the shooter was able to locate her and shot her dead.

[@OhImSaucy]

Hope the children screaming is stuck in their heads for the rest of their days knowing they could have prevented it.

[@corabell6734]

@@OhImSaucy it won’t be. They were there and did nothing! These people weren’t operating on bravery or consciousness.

[@CoDisafishy]

And the simple fact that he shot multiple times in that class room. Was he shooting at nothing?

[@SaltyDooDoo]

If the officers actually admit/accept what they did wrong, we will begin to hear about officer ending their own lives soon. If they r ego driven a-holes who never admit when they r wrong, they will live a long life. I predict the latter

[@tonyvelasquez6776]

I dont think you listened. He didnt say none of the officers knew, actually, he said the opposite - that the local Uvalde officers DID know and still never told the feds. The feds were who didnt know.

[@malenatully]

Mike we definitely need someone like you to train people. We need more people like you to protect us. Thank you, Mike Sending you virtual hug.

[@NoCrocodiles]

As former Law Enforcement, I find it impossible to believe that BORTAC had no knowledge there were kids in the room. Cops TALK to each other all the damn time, at every incident. I find it impossible to believe that the Team Commander didn't seek out further information from LE on the scene before them. That alone would be negligent on the part of BORTAC. As far as I'm concerned, every single damn LEO at the scene that day should be charged with multiple negligent homicides.

[@richardbrout2242]

Well.. either way, ... you roll up on a School shooting scene ON a school day middle of day..... he is IN a classroom.. why WOUDN"T they assume it was an active shooting regardless??? I mean what??? you think maybe he is there doing shadow puppets??? I don't need to a meteorologist to tell me it's raining in the middle of a thunderstorm. This (they didn't know) is so retarded-stupid it's insulting.

[@sarajohnson9533]

People in those two classrooms had called the police. They knew. Can't believe it,too.

[@DavidGarcia-je8hl]

Yup I call bull on that too

[@DS-tv1cl]

That's my thoughts exactly!! Everyone of them should be charged with homicide for the deaths of all of these children acting appropriately and immediately!! That is their damn job and I don't care how scared they are, they should have never stood around doing nothing!

[@scottdihigo]

BS they didn't know there were kids in the classroom. So they all entered the classroom and said "crap, there are kids in here". Doubt it

[@chrisseta1946]

Buddy I do this for a living. Those "BorTac" agents may not have known initially when they arrived that this was an active shooter with victims inside, but I'll guarantee you throughout the course of standing there for 30+ minutes they became aware of it.

[@DustDevilRage]

Damn right. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to hear gunshots in a school that was in session and come to the assumption that kids most likely are dying.

[@chrisseta1946]

@@DustDevilRage I watched a clip from one of the BWC's yesterday where they led the officer who's wife was in the classroom out. The BorTac officers are literally in the frame while the officer is saying "She says she is shot". That supervisor he is referring to is doing the same thing as the rest of these units and trying very hard to have no liability in this.

[@DustDevilRage]

@@chrisseta1946 Correct. BORTAC is trying to CYA because of 35 min of inaction. What those locals needed was leadership and BORTAC should have came in and said what’s the deal? Ok there’s a shooter with the slightest possibility of kids in the room? Let’s go. Stack up on me, let’s roll.

[@mandersonx]

It’s a school day, timelines, it’s obvious the kids are inside. That’s insane that this is even put as an excuse

[@cherylcarp8940]

@@mandersonx Right!! Hello... there were 2 wrong responses to that "incident"... for All the Officers!! Fleeing and Freezeing... until Bortac got their courage & (balls) to go in and FIGHT...how many minutes later?? My example and conviction; So my dad was a cop in 1966, he and a helping neighbor pulled a lady out of her burning apartment, the smeared and smoked finger prints on her mirrored closet... shows their badge of courage and willingness to help. She survived...thank you Dad for your example. John M. Donovan Rip

[@Kdubsurf14]

There were children screaming for help when the officers got there. Apparently they cut that out of the video?! How did they not know there were wounded babies in there?! Really appreciate all your hard work to keep us updated on this horrible tragedy!

[@thepackable]

They knew. They would rather listen to kids go through hell than risk anything themselves.

[@Johnny.f.face1]

If you watch the video, the audio is definitely redacted at several points.

[@catadjusterZ]

@@Johnny.f.face1 Yes, they omitted the screaming babies...

[@RexNEffect]

this dude is carrying water for the federal officers in my opinion

[@andyfisher470]

@@RexNEffect the failure to brief an assisting agency or direct your officers, not even having radio equipment to do so is obscene. I think His LARGER point is 7 officers responded 3 officers ended the situation. The tools to solve the problem were on scene from jump before fed bois even showed up. The failure to communicate the conditions of the scene to any assisting agency all the while sitting on your hands with lives in the balance is an unbelievable failing on the Responding PDs part.

[@stihlmanchainsaw8445]

" I am not woke, and I won't be woke for anyone!" Thank you sir - for your service to our country and for your brave assessment of this tragedy!

[@aerohunter7]

There was enough screaming from the victims that the audio had to be cut out of the video and 911 calls from CHILDREN and teachers inside … they knew there were children being shot. And sat for over 30 minutes??? There is no way to explain that away.

[@-._.-KRiS-._.-]

A 9/11 call came in from a teacher _before_ the shooter had entered the school. She knew he had a gun so perhaps he had been shooting at the outside of the building before he tried entering. Prior to that he shot at two people who came to help him after he crashed his grandmother's car in a field adjacent to the school's field. The cops weren't there when the initial shooting took place at 11:33 AM but you certainly would think they could have detained him for shooting at two people outside, before he was able to get close enough to the school. They arrived a few minutes after the initial shooting inside the school. Three cops tried to approach the classroom and were shot at. They retreated. One tried to get close to the classroom again but nobody followed him for backup so he retreated. Then the husband cop (one of the first three on the scene) of the teacher who had been shot was disarmed and detained by his fellow officers never to be seen on surveillance footage again. Collectively, they finally breached the classroom an hour and seventeen minutes later at 12:50 PM.

[@3CODKing]

technically they sat around for about an hour, there were, what 4-6 officers on scene within 6 minutes?

[@davidalley7270]

376 police officers stood down to be exact. From all around the area. That speaks volumes for police in general. Stay armed brother, looks like we are on our own...

[@snacksizeattila2076]

And they're trying to pin the blame on the person lowest of the command chain. Only one or two people have "voluntarily" stepped down. No accountability whatsoever

[@alexalliesbaxter1768]

Well...cops aren't there to save your life. They have no legal responsibility to, just to catch or kill the criminal.

[@chevypreps6417]

Exactly.........if you have to wait for the police, rather than defend yourself you have a big problem.

[@stephenlaney_bjj]

being a former operator, I always tell my friends to learn to be dangerous. If you rely on a reactive force you are already putting your self in a fail situation.

[@blahblah8037]

False flag event

[@MTG9878]

Mike 33 years in law enforcement SWAT squad leader cqb instructor, tepid deployment instructor you are absolutely correct, this was a complete failure, not one person made a decision! I’m actually angered and ashamed to be in law enforcement.

[@barneymiller7894]

Don't be angered and ashamed to be in law enforcement, you did your job, and you have every reason to be proud. Be angry that these bastards have the gull to call themselves police. And try to put themselves on the same level of respect as you when they've in no way earned it. Thank you for caring about your job and the people in your community, thank you for saving innocent lives, and thank you for being a good officer. Please, continue to lead by example, our country needs people like you.

[@ronnieholloway5057]

Uvalde is known as a speed trap. Not Uvalde SWAT. That’s the problem in Uvalde and any community w minimally trained PD in these matters. Honestly a psycho guy with Mike Glover skills could do this anywhere. Thank you Mike for your post, I was in tears when this happened. Uvalde is 45 min from my back door.

[@cobracommander9138]

@@ronnieholloway5057 Uvalde cops had recently conducted active shooter drills at the school using the training manual all Texas police use for active shooters. Also, there were multiple agencies at the scene not just Uvalde.

[@cobracommander9138]

The officers did make a very clear decision and that was to not go in and to wait for SWAT to go through the door. That was the gameplan. Let the kids die, officer safety is more important, wait for SWAT they will handle this lone teenager with no training that has only had an AR for a week.

[@blackticalmayhem8461]

@no chains no more stop with the conspiracy bs 😐

[@cremationsocietyofmonocacy8378]

It’s odd, in the fire service on a fire scene search and rescue is priority #1, rescue of victims. It is always assumed a building has occupants until proven otherwise. I think the police needs to take a page out of the fire services playbook. And gunshots in a school during school hours whether the location of the shooter has people in or not is an immediate threat to life and must be ended. One man who had the balls could have ended this, no team no training eliminates cowardice

[@luciusvorenus9445]

Amen. I was taught "Risk a lot to save a lot. Risk a little to save a little."

[@KnightOfTheEmpire]

It's already in the training program. They just were too cowardice to go in and follow their training. Talking about the bortac unit. Those local PDs have probably received close to zero training

[@wesmcgee1648]

I'm a retired high risk entry team commander. My 2 cents is every officer present should be fired and prosecuted for malfeasance in office at the very least. I hope the plaintiff attorneys rip them a new one in the sure to follow wrongful death lawsuits. I absolutely agree with every word spoken in this video.

[@Aethelhald]

Question (since you might know the answer) - why would a police officer ask for permission to shoot when he had the murderer in his sights? I've literally watched American police officers murder civilians by shooting them in the back, by choking them to death (and laughing at them as they died (Tony Timpa)), by executing them with a rifle as they begged for their life (Daniel Shaver), and so on and so forth, and in every single case the police officer is found to have done no wrong and either continues to be a police officer or retires with full pension. Why bother to ask for permission to start shooting in this of all instances? Why not just start shooting like usual?

[@cdub8158]

Bravo, any ideas why they didnt do anything?

[@Aethelhald]

@@circleviii1801 I'm not, but there's a precedent for police in the USA murdering civilians, all fully on camera, and 100% getting away with it. Why ask for permission to shoot in the one instance where it would've actually been justified in doing so? If police officers can choke Tony Timpa to death (and laugh while they do it) and execute Daniel Shaver with a rifle as he's crying and begging for his life and get away with it, why the fuck wouldn't this officer assume he could get away with killing a mass murdering school shooter? Was the Uvalde shooter black? Because that's the only way the police MIGHT have got in trouble for shooting him (but still most likely not).

[@SuperPapadzul]

@@Aethelhald You are mixing different police agencies and they all have different operational procedures and different managers. Why ask permission to shoot a person committing a felony? The only one who can answer that is the officer who asked, and his department. Me? I would had followed the old Texas saying: "shoot first ask questions later" You will be surprised to know that some departments have their officers ask a supervisor permission to even tow a car for a parking violation. The cases you mention for one reason or another the cops got away with their crimes. But they will never work as cops or be allowed to carry a gun ever again, even in open carry states. And no retirement badges either.

[@gridtac2911]

@@SuperPapadzul those are corrupt police agencies if they're asking for permission before doing their job. That wreaks of supervisors being in someone's pocket

[@ThisTall]

Man you have to be intentionally lying to say they didn’t realize there was kids in that room. Every one of those officers was listening to those kids screaming and calling out to them that entire time. These officers should be facing the death penalty.

[@HeyCupertino]

Bit much

[@larryross1819]

Uvalde was planned! This shooting was planned by the sick, evil people that want to destroy the USA. This was not some random event, those kids were expendable as were the teachers. The police were ordered to do nothing, problem for the evil elites, they forgot to tell the Border Patrol. Look at the big picture, look at all the other things happening right now. This, like the other "Mass Shootings", is mainly to disarm the American people. The only thing that keeps the sicko elites from destroying the USA is the simple fact that so many folks are armed. We all knew in our gut that something was weird about the Uvalde shooting, right from the start we all felt that there was something more. God save the USA.

[@SMOKETHECONQUEROR]

@@HeyCupertino Not enough.

[@HeyCupertino]

@@SMOKETHECONQUEROR Somebody put this in charge. Right away.

[@michaellind3653]

Should eat their own pistols and save everyone the misery of them continuing to live.

[@wfgit3380]

100%. Biggest failure of competence and character I've ever seen in law enforcement during my lifetime. A 15 year old could have done a far better job and shown far more courage. I don't know how any of these officers will ever be able to look at themselves in the mirror again without feeling like a piece of s***.

[@1997LT1Camaro]

100%

[@tonyc223]

A young Kyle R. comes to mind.

[@dawnkinateder9617]

@Robert Gonzalez you mean Bogeda and the uniqueness of breakfast tacos should have saved the day. Dr. Jill Biden is the BEST.

[@johnnytorres277]

@Robert Gonzalez Different states with different laws. Liberal New York has some ridiculous self defense laws that give the advantage to criminals.

[@magnetshakur5803]

They have a free car a free gun a pension they could care less about looking at themselves in the mirror feeling any type of way bro. Nothin will happen to Those cops. They will get a raise n shit

[@normaberry9704]

Thank you for having the courage to call out the officer whose wife was still alive for leaving the scene because I was bothered by that.

[@sniperjared]

i can understand some of the officers being cowards and not wanting to go in. but they actively prevented the real men who wanted to stop the threat from doing so

[@CB-rv2lj]

unfortunately the police officers trade in safety for their paycheck. that is the deal. they get good pay too. for their entire lives.

[@aixpert291]

Real men couldn’t be stopped.

[@rossg4788]

@@CB-rv2lj Texas police pay us very low. Small towns start at about $12 per hour. How can you recruit qualified people for that. A server at Chilli's would make more with zero risk...

[@Hakunamne19]

@Eyes of a child She got a whole class out safely too... She was an absolute unit

[@jarret45]

@@rossg4788 then go work at Chili's

[@ktalltx8538]

The whole reason these men have the lives, homes , vehicles and comforts they do is because that city keeps them employed to prevent and end such situations. The fact that these people have sucked a paycheck off the city for who knows how long, for a chief that probably fought for bigger budgets for more training , more equipment and more over time and did absolutely nothing is a crime. Everyone makes mistakes but for the chief and every officer under him to fail to respond and even run, ya can’t help but wonder what was really going on.

[@unluckytourist]

This is something I noticed during COVID. A whole bunch of society (as in not just government employees) who were paid to handle these sorts of crisis situations threw their hands up and said "this is really hard". Yes, that's what the job and the money is for - 90% of the time it's nothing, but you're meant to show up for that 10%.

[@rachelgarcia4301]

@@unluckytourist I've often thought that of public school teachers. Sometimes they draw pay but the kids just are passed. I see bad spelling all the time. I even see college grads who don't write well at all.

[@deanhoward4128]

AMEN!

[@jpmccray6754]

Probably busy eating....(on taxpayer dime).

[@markdennison8326]

And excellent pensions. They must be REVOKED.

[@Scott-DJ]

Great commentary. 20 years ago the Columbine teacher Dave Saunders was shot and bled out before help arrived. You would think after 20 years we would learn our lesson... apparently not. I was not aware of both female teachers were alive when finally transported...so that means once again we lost two teachers that likely bled out because of lack of assistance,...and almost a third from the male teacher that *did* survive. At least one student was confirmed to also have bled out according to a survivor (and the deceased student's parent). The male teacher was critically wounded and watched his entire class being slaughtered in front of his eyes..and now is being rightfully *very* vocal about how badly this was handled. Not only from his injuries, but his psyche itself will never be the same again. This event was just an absolute disaster in every way imaginable.

[@N-B-MMA]

Disaster almost doesnt seem like a strong enough word...i can barely think about this without feeling such heartache for all the families teachers and most of all students

[@latinaforever4892]

No words to describe this tragedy from the beginning to the end , including when he shots his grandmother,and theirs neighbors called 911 ? 😢 where was the alarm to the whole community to luck down including the schools in the area with a shooter driving her’s truck? 👹 something happened that we r missing here !,! RIP beautiful souls and teachers 🙏💕🙏

[@latinaforever4892]

** He driving grandma’s car

[@lenman1114]

This was an unremovable stain.

[@youjustdontgetit8117]

Totally agree with you...but what are we gonna do about it...talking about it is getting nothing done...we are the ones to get the blame for the murdering of our children...when are we men gonna stand up and say enough is enough...it's up to us to put an end to all of this...this is something way deeper than incompetence...kids being slaughtered fuck command...end the threat deal with the consequences...shits crazy man...and we are the ones that sit here and watch it and grieve and try to find solutions...while the solution holders don't spend five mins on it...don't even speak of it...thankful for and appreciate our police and military...but how much more of this do we have to keep seeing...I was at the capital on the 6th and the cops where beating their supporters...people in their 50 and 60s...when are the military going to step in and stop thisntake over of our Nation!!! I don't know I'm just a farmer trying to combat these commies...it's gonna take WE The People are gonna have to end this PEACEFULLY!!!

[@torreychase9669]

I enjoyed your analysis of the clusterf*ck we saw at Uvalde. You made one comment that I disagree with and that is the budget cut as playing a part in this mess. There were no budget cuts in Uvalde or any police departments. Austin initially cut, but then came back with an increase. I think it is important to keep the focus of the failure on where it belongs.

[@ruthpicon2203]

Local media said the Uvalde Police Dept was getting 40% of the City budget. With a population of a little over 15,000, it looks like the PD was getting enough money. How were they spending the money is a good question.

[@texascarryacademy]

It's a school with classrooms and during school hours, did they really need someone to tell them that there were kids in that classroom? How do they"assume" it's an empty classroom? If they were going to "assume" something they should have assumed the classroom was full until told otherwise.

[@dsmith33]

They were told. From the Texas House report: BORTAC Acting Commander Paul Guerrero came to the north side of the building upon his arrival at Robb Elementary. In a post-incident statement, he said he was advised “that the subject had possibly shot multiple children and was still in the classroom.” Anonymous supervisor trying to cover up BORTAC’s failure. Timing and details of that information being leaked to Mike was wayyy too convenient especially given how inherently unbelievable it was. Also made clear they weren’t told to stand down by Arredondo nor at any point did BORTAC defer to him as the on scene commander. CBP is embarrassed and engaging in some major CYA.

[@suzimonkey345]

There were a group of police who knew for a FACT that there were alive & injured children in that room! There is clear, undeniable video evidence of them talking about the 911 calls…THEY KNEW!!!

[@suzimonkey345]

If the American police are terrified of AR15 rifle type weapons they should be banned!!

[@lauradiaz-autin3178]

Fact is that it should have been the Uvalde Police that first arrived as first responders to the active shooting incident that had responsibility to ACT and Stop the shooting and not to wait for Borac

[@MarineWar1]

Spot on.

[@cmorrow0231]

I'm on board with most of this breakdown - I agree the initial cadre of responding officers (at least 4 I could see) that were initially shot at - should have engaged and saved many lives. I also agree that the officer who was texted by his shot wife is the biggest coward of them all - she's literally down the hallway - he knows she's been shot - and he DOES NOTHING - and allows himself to get relieved from the situation altogether - just mindblowing to me - I don't agree that the Border Patrol folks should be let off the hook for "not knowing" anything and wasting another 1/2 hour standing around. How can you be on scene for so long and not ask the simple questions?? That would have been number 1 priority prior to engaging is to gather details as to what we should expect behind that door. I don't believe these officers were unable to gather that information. Everyone in this scenario is derelict of duty and should be punished - you are in an ELEMENTARY SCHOOL during school hours - multiple officers on scene within 2-3 minutes - and know exactly where the shooter is - just horrific and unacceptable all around. Many lives lost this day that were completely avoidable

[@AnalysisofaCrimewithCD]

100% correct. The three officers that retreated at 11:36am had another officer with a long gun right at the end of the hall. They should have made a plan right there to enter the room and eliminate the threat. End of story All this “training” nonsense, they were trained and one of the officers who retreated was the swat commander An active shooter scene can’t just turn into a barricaded subject. He was in the room with the victims who were bleeding out and needed immediate care now not 4,200 seconds + later! The biggest failure in law enforcement history happened in Uvalde. With local/state/federal agents on scene

[@liberty8424]

These facts that have come out are doubling the heartache of this tragedy. The local school officers that arrived first & did nothing should resign or be fired. Period. Your info is appreciated, & yes it should be discussed from now on, publically.

[@LegendStormcrow]

Without retirement

[@bigsteve973]

Fired lose all benefits and pensions and banned from working law enforcement or security

[@garrickgreathouse]

Events like this are why I've taught my kid that the police are NOT your friends.

[@Kaliburrrr]

@@garrickgreathouse Absolutely, they aren’t necessarily your enemy, but they certainly weren’t in a rush to start busting down doors and saving kids

[@pothead2194]

Most disturbing fact is 376 officers on scene man. 😪💔

[@derrickbonsell]

A kid with a Hi-Point just recently stopped a wannabe mass shooter with a shot from 40 yards away. It didn't take tactical training, just a willingness to respond.

[@DR-nh2on]

@ Derrick Bonsell The brave 22 year old only took 15 seconds to neutralize the shooter!

[@chi2251]

Hi-point needs to sponsor him

[@bornstellarnova1991]

This needs to be circulated everywhere. This is exactly what the US citizens need to hear, regardless of political or religious views. Thank you, sir.

[@enmanueldelgado1348]

100% agree. As a former LEO, and this situation is straight up disgraceful. As a father and as a HUMAN im heartbroken. Thanks for being honest man.

[@jimgrant9320]

I heard the police stopped the off duty husband out side and disarmed him.

[@rickslingerland1155]

Learned a few things today. Thank you. All my life I trained for emergencies. Military, then Firefighter, then RN. Worked with Cops for 30 years and have a cop in the family. This was a definite failure of leadership. Not just with the chief, but with the others who were Cpl, Sgt, Lt...SOMEONE should have said "Are there kids in there? You don't know? Go find out. Now!" "There's kids in there? We have to go now!" If we are to be honest, we have to admit we are all at fault. Political leaders, cops, citizens. Not just there. All of us have the responsibility to ask what is being done to keep our kids safe. I have been just as guilty. I am going to board meetings, now, and asking questions. And not letting anyone blow me off.

[@GM-ln7te]

or better yet, WE KNOW THERE'S KIDS IN THE BUILDING, ASSUME IN THE ROOM TOO. EVERYONE IS IN DANGER, LETS GO NOW!

[@larry6793]

I was once told by a good supervisor, sometimes it is better to ask for forgiveness then to wait for permission...... This might of been one of those times

[@paulchristiansen7014]

as a PMC/SOP. myself and I cry for those children lost in every shoot, as father of 2 it's crazy how they use this matter for their narratives

[@direktive4]

i'm just a civilian. when I went to school, the only things we drilled for were earthquakes. i'll pose one question, what's changed since the 90s and now where it's somehow become normal for students to drill for shooters?

[@rickslingerland1155]

@@direktive4 We have allowed educators to replace parents. We adults have surrendered our responsibility. We turned away from God.

[@danielmcdaniel954]

I get so angry and sad imagining the absolute horror these victims experienced their last moments. God bless all the victims and their families.

[@richardhenry1969]

I believe there is more going on here then we are allowed to know. Never in my life have I seen such pure cowardice. As a veteran everyone knows about freezing in a stressful environment. It happens to everyone this is something else entirely. This is malfeasance at the highest level I've ever seen. The thought of letting children bleed out because they needed a ok is beyond belief. We are living in clown world

[@bravoactual2423]

Take the tin foil hat off. Nothing going on but straight up cowardice.

[@JohnDoe-zl6qw]

@@bravoactual2423 Yes, they are cowards, but there IS something going on when the vetting process for those expected to serve and protect has so eroded that _THESE_ are the types of people being hired to that position. That doesn't happen by accident. I'm not suggesting some mustache-twirling, black-clad, one-dimensional villain is sitting in the background laughing maniacally over the success of his master plan. Nothing so simplistic or juvenile as that. Rather, there's a deeper and more insidious problem that is broadly disseminated throughout all of society that a situation like this was allowed to happen. We used to be better than this. The fact it happened is a window allowing a peek into a larger, underlying problem.

[@arekpetrosian4965]

@@bravoactual2423 If those MF'ers were too fucking scared to enter, then why did they stop OTHERS from going in? If you don't see a larger plan at work here...you aren't looking.

[@Kanikalion]

You're correct. This is our generation's Waco. This is exactly what they did in the 90s to justify their weapons package then, and they're already doing it again now.

[@awad7391]

I would not be surprised if political interests wanted a mass shooting.

[@cornfed123567]

I don't understand how the cop who lost his wife wasn't willing to go in immediately. If I thought my loved was in danger I'd be motivated to go in and rescue them, anyone who tried or did stop me wouldn't be around me ever again

[@catadjusterZ]

There is video of this cop and he is shown standing around in the hallways with all the others cops

[@MichaelSplatkins]

I hope it was something like they prevented him from going in as he was too emotionally invested in the outcome. But I doubt it.

[@janebernal7446]

Actually, I saw video on our local news that showed him wanting to go in and that Police chief told him not to go in, they sort of pulled him back. It’s hard to tell if he stopped bc they ordered him not to go in or if he was just afraid.

[@danieltoledo9383]

his spirit was weak. he felt the need to go in and denied it at the behest of a man. he belongs there with the rest of those losers. I’m willing to accept shock, but he knovv.

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

That cop tried, the others stopped him. They were ordered to let the massacre happened, and they carried out that order.

[@brianthomas9254]

I’m a cop who works in Parkland, FL. I, and every other cop currently in Parkland, was not there that day but most of us wish we had been. It’s a collective shame that we all bear. I believe every one of us is prepared to do the right thing if it happens again. But it’s extremely disappointing that other agencies are not learning from our mistake and our school resource officer’s cowardice.

[@JohnJones-cg2xm]

Why are you guys so scared of everything but emtying your clip into unarmed people crawing on their knees? I always fear cops because they are such cowards that they will shoot if they get scared or angry.

[@ameribrahim5405]

Thank you for your service

[@andyfisher470]

yeah probably would have been helpful if this resource officer was ya know... on campus

[@EarthAltar]

How many times was that kid reported to law enforcement and FBI? He made a video saying he was going to do it, and nothing happened. He could be seen approaching the school with a rifle, and nothing happened. He starts shooting, and nothing happens. Finally after an hour law enforcement actually does something and apprehends the kid, and during his questioning is offered soda and chips. Then he tries to pretend he's insane while on camera. That Parkland shooting could of, and should of, been prevented weeks before it happened, but no, it was allowed to happen. Just following orders is no longer an acceptable excuse. It hasn't been since Nuremberg. You wouldn't confiscate the Parkland shooter's weapons after multiple complaints, what will you do when ordered to confiscate law abiding citizens firearms? Show up in pre dawn raids dressed to the 9's kicking in doors and killing pets? You just try it.

[@zippburger8287]

The US Supreme Court has made it clear that law enforcement agencies are not required to provide protection to the citizens who are forced to pay the police for their "services." In the cases DeShaney vs. Winnebago and Town of Castle Rock vs. Gonzales, the supreme court has ruled that police agencies are not obligated to provide protection of citizens. In other words, police are well within their rights to pick and choose when to intervene to protect the lives and property of others - even when a threat is apparent. In both of these court cases, clear and repeated threats were made against the safety of children - but government agencies chose to take no action. A consideration of these facts does not necessarily lead us to the conclusion that law enforcement agencies are somehow on the hook for every violent act committed by private citizens. This reality does belie the often-made claim, however, that police agencies deserve the tax money and obedience of local citizens because the agencies "keep us safe." Nevertheless, we are told there is an agreement here - a "social contract" - between government agencies and the taxpayers and citizens. And, by the very nature of being a contract, we are meant to believe this is a two-way street. The taxpayers are required to submit to a government monopoly on force, and to pay these agencies taxes. In return, these government agents will provide services. In the case of police agencies, these services are summed up by the phrase "to protect and serve" - a motto that has in recent decades been adopted by numerous police agencies. But what happens when those police agencies don't protect and serve? That is, what happens when one party in this alleged social contract doesn't keep up its end of the bargain. The answer is: very little. The taxpayers will still have to pay their taxes and submit to police agencies as lawful authority. If the agencies or individual agents are forced to pay as a result of lawsuits, it's the taxpayers who will pay for that too. Oh sure, the senior leadership positions may change, but the enormous agency budgets will remain, the government agents themselves will continue to collect generous salaries and pensions, and no government will surrender its monopoly on the use of force.

[@glenndavis5585]

Every person on the scene showed absolute negligence.

[@sandykip37]

A grand jury needs to be empaneled and every one of those officers need to be indicted, plain and simple. This is just unbelievable that they let this happen. I'm in 100% agreement that there is something dark involved with this incident. This defied all training and policies; especially as multiple agencies were involved.

[@JohnSmith-ii7pd]

The darkness is this- IMHO the kids in that school were sacrificed to further the whole take the guns from the legit population so that the gov. can rule us in a socialist state. Just as an aside, why didn't one of the responding officers have a level four plate or vest in their cruisers? I can't say I wouldn't be scared, but Id be damned if I let my grandson's school be shot up while he's in there and I have the ability to intervene.

[@soufian2170]

👍👍

[@isitoveryet9525]

Oh absolutely. They’re actively trying to cover everything up as we speak….threatening journalists, trying to intimidate parents that are speaking out, refusing to release body cam footage etc. a grand jury should happen immediately

[@PhunkyMunky10]

When I was in the Army, it was required that you have the mindset that if your leadership is out of action for any reason, those led by that soldier would take initiative and continue the mission. The Assistant Team Leader would step up and lead and if they didn’t, one of the other teammates would. It was also taught that when you have a lack of orders from command, you’re free to decide yourself to do what you see needs done, as a leader. Using the Uvalde shooting as an example: The Chief wasn’t doing anything, not saying anything, not engaged with the officers in any way. In that case, the officers present should have made the decision themselves to deal with the shooter. To go and check the door to see if it needed breached by tools or if the doorknob was unlocked. Had those officers taken it upon themselves to end the situation with all possible haste, we’d be talking about a completely different story. The chief might still be on the chopping block, but the rest of that situation would have been handled. It’s sad to see how this all turned out.

[@tchin2020]

All those LEOs at the scene, minus the 3 LEOs that stopped the threat, will plead the 5th amendment and not testify ….

[@gina7150]

“They didn’t even know [children were in the room]”. I have no police training at all, but I have a question for those who do. Shouldn’t you always assume there are children in a classroom in a situation such as this?

[@Joelsellers29]

You would think the screaming would have been a good indicator that children were present.

[@johnwotek3816]

Depend on the doctrine. But considering there were kids screaming and active shooting, by the doctrine I was taught, you have to get in and find the shooter to neutralise him.

[@gina7150]

@@johnwotek3816 thank you!

[@pyramidion5911]

Just watched the video and you can hear several people walk up and ask and get told about the kids in the room. One guy even said "the kids don't want to come out" that part was particularly tough to hear.

[@chellej911]

Answer: YES

[@vickieandrew1010]

Sending deepest condolences for the loss of your beautiful children and teachers from UK.

[@xXxpowerbagxXx]

Thank you, brother. Too many fucked up things get covered up or forgotten. I hope people get the punishment they deserve.

[@Kdubsurf14]

I had another thought to add. What on earth would the gunman be shooting at, that many times, if no children were in the classroom? That is the most absurd thing Ive ever heard that they didnt think there were children in the classroom. RIP to the babies and teachers who didnt make it out that day.

[@latinaforever4892]

Good point 😢💔🙏

[@skurdibbles7913]

They 100% knew the children were there with the shooter. It's on the audio captured by their body cams. I hope they testify to that bold face lie.

[@skurdibbles7913]

Leadership was ineffective and none of the lower ranked officers stood up everything they say is a lie to cover up their mistakes and not let people know the quality of humans they are.

[@xoyouaremysunshinexo]

@@skurdibbles7913 yes and they knew because the kids were calling! You can hear it on the radio, dispatch saying he’s in a room with victims

[@jacobneezlewander9987]

As a husband and dad I would risk all I have to protect my wife and two kids. As a police or first responder you take on the responsibility of protecting many people’s spouses, children and loved ones. No excuses for those cops who had more than enough firepower to finish the job much sooner.

[@ljeans531]

This is a misinformation issue, the guy on the phone and the officer whose wife died are two different people. The guy with the wife was off duty and was stopped from entering OUTSIDE the school

[@SSPspaz]

Do we know if the officer and his wife had any kids? It is absolutely baffling to me how he could be one of the 3 initially responding officers and just sit there 100ft down a hallway as his wife is bleeding out. As a father myself, literally the *ONLY* explanation I could even possibly fathom would be if they had several kids together and she’s texting him saying “It’s too late for me, our kids are going to need you more than ever.” Edit: Or it’s misinformation and Officer Phone-Checker wasn’t the teachers husband.

[@alet4054]

The dad (sheriff) who's daughter was killed, was waiting with the other officers in the hallway...I can't imagine, this is horrible, how is he going to live with that?!

[@alet4054]

@@SSPspaz yes they did, a daughter.

[@Wirzxcve]

Teacher don’t agree with you, if they did, they would’ve taken the actions necessary when they spotted the shooter 15 minute away from the entrance. They had all the tools necessary from custodial resources, desk and chairs, and even tools from scissors and glue to at least hinder his movements, where were the so call “risk all” male teachers who could’ve set up the barricade? Where were the announcements? And where were the relays from the cameras to assist the cops? No, there are no Risk all civilians anymore, just worthless delusional people.

[@georgetrevino3532]

“A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but a hero will taste death but once. “These cops got live with this shame now and in the afterlife,these men will walk eternity wearing the shame of inaction.

[@shaunofthedead3000]

Who cares. They suffer none. All cops are cowards and corrupt and communists. They are protected by the thin blue line and unions from any reprimand. These guys should be hunted down like dogs and hung in the streets as an example. Their families should be forced to watch and bare their shame for the rest of their lives. They should be stripped of anything of value and left to start over with nothing. That is justice. Because we have long since been without justice in this country. Holier-than-thou pacifists call it revenge and vigilante. It's justice. The idea of a jury of peers wasn't to allow some people disconnected from the incident to "judge fairly." It was to ensure a just sentence for misdeeds by those CLOSEST to the trauma. To allow those affected to have a say in the sentences. They started this nonsense about fair juries and unbiased as a way to ensure the most corrupt are never convicted and if someone dares cross the most corrupt they are buried. That's it. If I'm murdered I want my family to decide the fate of the murderer. Someone who has skin in the game. A jury of PEERS. So if vigilante is all that's left...bring back the wild west.

[@OhImSaucy]

I hope they can’t sleep at night and all they hear is the screaming.

[@georgetrevino3532]

@@OhImSaucy no don’t wish that , that’s PTSD. But yes .. they need to be ashamed of themselves.

[@lordhades9455]

They are incapable of feeling shame

[@OhImSaucy]

@@georgetrevino3532 they deserve ptsd when the cause was there own cowardice

[@habibi750]

I’m so happy I found this channel. I’ve been following the shooting since day one. Every single video on the subject that I have seen has been polite and politically correct about what happened. Mike is telling it like it is. Mike is telling the truth. What happened in Uvalde was a massacre that was mishandled by incompetent officers who have since tried to cover up their gross negligence. The police chief was days away from being sworn in as a city council member. With his deep ties in the law enforcement community, it is my opinion that he did not want any officer casualties on his hands. He must have assumed that the shooter would run out of ammunition, or end his life. So he chose to do nothing. And now he is worse off had directed the officers to go in.

[@Grinlathak]

The police still harass the woman who had the courage to run in and get her kids.

[@Grinlathak]

@@datguitarplayer1656 Trained? Too bad they weren't trained to open a door knob apparently. Seems to em they must have been trained to sit back and let the shooter run himself out of ammo before acting.

[@victorchinchillvas]

Thank you for your debrief on the Uvalde situation sir. As a father, a patriot, and a proud American, the Robb school shooting's law enforcement response makes me sick, and my blood boil. They were right there, they were armed, and they could have saved innocent children's lives....but they DID NOTHING! Instead, they stood by "battle ready" in their Gucci gear and listened, as a piece of degenerate human waste murdered children. Those that stood by and did nothing should be ashamed of themselves as humans for pretending to "serve and protect", because when the time came to get some, they sh*t the bed and failed their community, the badge, America and all it stands for, and most of all those defenseless children, God rest their souls. Thank you Mike Glover for taking a stand, you are everything every American should strive to be. And thank you sir, for your service. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@cdub8158]

Alot of police like to play dress up.

[@StationaryEarth]

The police are not legally obligated to protect anyone. The police are servants of the Centralized Banking Cartel and nothing more. Their purpose is to obey their Masters and nothing else. The police ARE NOT there to protect the innocent. When it comes time to disarm the population and crush the innocent those same men that did nothing at Uvalde are going to be VERY energetic.

[@Yolandaana2901]

They were standing like they was waiting for coffee and Donuts they way they looked standing there i was so mad to see like 15 of them like what the heck go in he is just a punk hit him

[@cdub8158]

@@Yolandaana2901 love to play dress up action man

[@rorypreslicka7647]

I just watched the footage in its entirety. I have watched many police shooting footage videos and I have seen some that were outright wrong and terrible, but this is without question the most disgustingly wrong and cowardly police work I have ever seen. I agree with you on everything but I find it hard to believe bortac didn’t know the situation. I just watched all those “brave cops” with all their gear, and their guns and their armor and bullshit stand around for an hour while kids died. The ONLY thing they were doing was talking. I think they knew. One other note, actually brave parents were outside trying to save the children while fully geared cops stood around looking tough and handcuffed them. Whole thing makes me want to puke.

[@johnnytorres277]

The craziest part is the last about 20 minutes, when they first started going down the hallway towards the door. I thought for sure this is finally it they're going in. But then a big group of them just stood around in front of the door, once again doing who knows what.

[@BG-mh6pc]

It’s terrifying to see a little boy coming out of the restroom right as that piece of absolute subhuman filth turns down the hall. I cannot help but wonder if that innocent child had come out even 3 seconds earlier what would’ve happened. His terror was palpable as soon as he turned the corner and saw the shooter. And to think it took over an hour to eliminate the shooter. My god,

[@mikewilliams7218]

I cried when I heard that meat grinder chewing up children and they did nothing. Support the 2a, we protect ourselves. 🇺🇲

[@SwissMarksman]

@@mikewilliams7218 Imagine a country where they want the teacher to be armed to defend themselfes. Holy shit I am gobsmacked on how this doesn't light up people mind's.

[@mikewilliams7218]

@@SwissMarksman Yeah, but it would work.

[@ronnye7096]

I’m a retired LEO. Every agency across this country changed tactics after Columbine. Patrol officers were trained to respond to active shooters, or should have been. I know I was trained multiple times during my career. Time is not on your side and you need to do something. I’m sick to my stomach seeing the video of the lack of response to stopping the threat. I’m speaking from experience reference a school shooting. I reacted like I was trained. Being shot or injured never entered my mind. What went through my mind was that I was going to have to shoot one of my students. I was the school resource officer. All those who did nothing need to be fired. Thank you for what you do and for your service to our country.

[@idiot_RC]

Jeeze man, I just read the story from that. I'm sorry you had to go through that, I can't image the toll that's taken on you and your family. But I'm grateful for you and people like you. You are a hero. Thank YOU for your service to this Country.

[@AnalysisofaCrimewithCD]

Retired out of NY. Sick over this. 10+ agencies and nobody took over the scene, formulated a plan to take the door and eliminate the threat. Ramos lost his right to “being spoken to” after he fired the first round in that school. He was never a “barricaded subject” Totally heartbreaking to know some of those children and teachers would have survived if some had the balls to take that door within a couple minutes of the first 3 being fired upon. I understand they retreated when fired upon but get behind that wall, make a plan and get right back in that classroom.

[@AnalysisofaCrimewithCD]

Time isn’t on our side in that situation. Every second counts and they waited 4200 seconds +

[@ronnye7096]

@@AnalysisofaCrimewithCD Amen brother.

[@R-Lee-]

Yeah I agree they need to be fired. By a firing squad.

[@Livefreeordie907]

To anyone who had any criticism for your breakdown, you are 100% right. Thank you for just having the character to tell them all to just get bent. I have nothing but respect for you sir, thank you for your service and for making it your life’s work to prepare those of us who just want to me as ready as we can be to properly handle whatever we are forced to face. You have the support of those who matter sirr

[@tex_gil117]

Man you hit the nail on the head. I was insanely surprised to see so many officers in the Sul position, the low ready, taking their eyes off their muzzle, etc. Nobody was looking for work, nobody was taking initiative. They were all in flight and freeze mode. I used to live in Uvalde and went to school at that same exact school. This community is going to need a miracle to get through this.

[@thegreatclarifying6339]

They were waiting for orders...

[@tex_gil117]

@@thegreatclarifying6339 I'm assuming you're being sarcastic lol.

[@corabell6734]

That community needs more trust in the culture and cultivating of leaders they have birthed and raised. People who know what real life is Uvalde. They need to stop uplifting those who have no clue what that community is actually.

[@tonyyu3998]

Yup, and what it doesn’t need is the likes of Mathew McConaughey pitching for himself and the Biden administration. That was a very selfish and low brow move on his part. I’d expect nothing less than for Biden and his team to use him as a tool.

[@henryfox6293]

Exactly. Reading the conversations of the officers is infuriating, they seem uninterested in resolving the situation. Texas DPS agents asking the officers if there’s kids in there, and the officers don’t even care, just waiting on orders mindlessly.

[@jcnme27]

As a former deputy for an undisclosed agency, I can say that we had firearm qualifications twice a year. Stationary paper targets. I know some agencies have annual requirements. It basically comes down to budget. Unless you were part of SWAT or another specialized component, weapons and tactics were very basic at the patrol level. The fact that the officer is asking permission to enter the scene and attempt to engage the subject in itself, is very troubling. As a former LEO both military and civilian, if I'm hearing shots, in this case inside of a school....the only thing you'd hear on the radio is, I'm going in. NOT, mother may I!!!

[@ZachRM95]

40% of the city's budget goes to the uvalde police department. Lets not make excuses.

[@ch3cksund3ad]

There is literally no other situation where they asked to shoot a criminal. We see that everyday, sometimes people that didn't deserve, sometimes even what would be considered constitutionally legal citizens/civilians.

[@xSP3CTREx]

C'mon man. They need 400k MRAP, tens of thousands in spec ops kit per man, to stand around and look like hero to media. I mean it's not like it was any of their children, right.

[@jcnme27]

@@ZachRM95 If you can show me where that 40% goes exactly and how much is budgeted for weapons training, ammo and weapons classes/qualifications...I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance.

[@kirerunte1046]

@@xSP3CTREx no no, they need f15s and billion dollar planes and we need moabs and nukes, that will surely bring peace and make criminals follow the law lol, these people are nothing but criminals with badges

[@Billio68]

I’ve already posted my feeling’s on this incident and I have not changed on this. I was a trainer on this stuff and you are spot on. I am not a Prosecutor but if I was they’d all be looking at charges. I’m not all knowing and not privy to many facts. If I was on scene nothing would have stopped me from being the first man into the room. Armed and vested or not, I’ve been shot at more than anyone should be as a Veteran of 4 armed conflicts and 30 years of Police work. Seriously nothing would have kept me from ending this threat except death. How these cops can sleep at night is beyond me. The cries and screams of these children must haunt their dreams. The sounds of the wounded and injured in my past haunt mine and I served with valor and meritoriously. Nothing would have stopped my 280 linebacker bulk from entering and crushing this evil son of Satan sending him back to hell. That is all

[@joshuaortiz2031]

Same here but I only weigh 150 😒

[@sethrauldatta7456]

@@joshuaortiz2031 The mentality is the most important thing, not your weight. 150 is enough.

[@lea7804]

i believe 100% of u sir, i believe u can go in fast and furious 11

[@joshuaortiz2031]

@@sethrauldatta7456 I know it doesnt matter I carry and served in the military. Getting shot in the head by a 90 pound girl will kill you just as fast as getting shot by someone as big as OP. If anything he's a bigger target to hit then me. I just wish it was easier to pack on mass for me I burn 3000 calories resting. Food is getting expensive. Plus size does matter very much in an unarmed altercation. That's why you divide fighters by weight class.

[@TheBizziniss]

I’m with you, sir. I don’t want to die, and I am guilty of being afraid in my day when I was a soldier in Iraq, but I was far more afraid that everyone would know I was afraid. There are things worse than death, and not all death is equal. I would prefer to die well and for a good cause, like saving kids as opposed to dying slow as an old man suffering everyday. That’s what I used to tell myself when I was a soldier and it has never changed. I would have gone through that door even if I had a hammer. I don’t understand a lot of what I’m seeing. I don’t understand why they turned tail and ran knowing that’s the most vulnerable you can be when running away. I don’t understand, knowing that the weapon has direct impingement and it gets hot and dirty, why they didn’t keep him shooting at them and not the kids. The weapon would have a failure at some point and I doubt that kid could trouble shoot it well without experience. Failure or not, just like suppressing a target in the military, why they couldn’t, again, keep him engaged while someone who actually had balls went trough one or all of the six points of entry. Even if they just screamed at the kid from behind the concrete block and made a bunch of noise it would have been enough to make the shooter have to pay attention to the police and not the kids. Instead they literally did nothing of consequence. There seemed to be no one with any aggressive spirit, no alphas, no bullies for a fight. No one seemed angry. Anger can be a very motivating emotion and help overcome the rational thinking that holds one back, as I’m sure you know. And they had all the advantages in arms and armor. They even had good cover. A .556 can’t go through concrete block unless you hammer it with multiple rounds. I know this for a fact. It’s not like the military went to that round because it’s more lethal, they went with it because it’s smaller and effective up to the range they knew most combat occurred and you could carry twice as much. It’s not as lethal as 7.62, but from what I’ve learned they knew it would cause a nasty wound if it didn’t hit in the right spot and either way you are out of the fight dead or horribly wounded. It’s a small round and without a penetrator (green tip) the first wall of the concrete block slows it down enough for the second wall after the inside void to stop it. So that concrete block wall was good enough cover. I just don’t understand except that they were afraid and there was no leadership to push them. Again, from experience I know having someone give you an order to move can overcome the initial reaction to hold back. Even when they originally entered the building only two of the 6-8 officers actually approached the room. They were clearly afraid, which is ok, but they weren’t pushing themselves. It’s like they were resigned to the kids bleeding out. None of it makes sense. They say there was an officer who had him in his sights before he even entered the school, and didn’t shoot. That’s all well and good, fog of war and whatnot, but he saw him go in the school, but I didn’t see the officer come hauling in after him in the video. Where did he go? How could he watch him enter and still hold back? I mean, it’s a dude with an AR and a bunch of mags. What did he think the kid was gonna do? Why on earth you’d let him get out of your sight is so beyond me, even if you are afraid, he could get a bead on that officer at any moment, the officer wouldnt know because he broke contact. Where’s the self preservation? It just seems completely inept and it just seems like cowardice. I hate to say it but that’s what it seems like from top to bottom. A bunch of cowards with cool gear. Kinda like the Russian conscripts in Ukraine. They look the part but they just can’t fight. Except the Russian conscripts at least try, so maybe they are worse than Russian conscripts.

[@antoniobranch]

"It's almost unbelievable how this shooter after crashing his pickup truck in a ditch, casually walked acrossed a open field and strolled down a elementary school hallway toting his assault rifle like a flower basket. Then, massacred a classroom full of students and teachers. And, Keep a platoon size police force terrified and at bay for almost an hour."

[@mediocreshotplacement]

More like a large company or small battalions worth which is just even more absurd. How the hell do you justify not doing anything when the dude is outnumbered 400 to 1. Absolutely disgraceful

[@jamal69jackson77]

We were wrong? The video released shows that clearly, we were right. The Uvalde police hung back and waited for someone else to do their job and take the risk for them. The Uvalde PD also claimed they had no long rifles, but the video clearly shows there were at least two officers with long rifles right from the start. The Border Patrol was the ONLY agency that took action but far too late and they still ran around in a complete clusterfck for about 15 to 20 minutes. But all the opportunities to save lives belonged to the Uvalde PD and they KNEW that children were being murdered... there's multiple 911 calls from a young child and from teachers inside the school to prove it and also proof that dispatch relayed that information to officers on scene. There is absolutely no excuse for what they did, or should I say... what they didn't do! Anyone who defends these officers and their criminal dereliction needs to work on their morals and values.

[@TyphusVonElder]

he's saying the police were wrong.

[@nathangothan601]

You obviously didn’t watch the video. He very directly condemns all involved. The title is a little misleading but I think it’s directed at Uvalde PD.

[@jamal69jackson77]

@@TyphusVonElder in that case, he's right.

[@jamal69jackson77]

@@nathangothan601 I did watch the whole video but I apparently misunderstood his statement, that's all.

[@daviddoucet2220]

Thank you Mr. Glover, you’ve brought more clarity to this tragic event in two videos than the entire media industry has with all the coverage they ran nonstop for days. Keep up the good work, it’s much appreciated.

[@vickysmith192]

I agree. I wanted to make a judgement call without knowing all the information. Than you for caring enough for others to explain what happened. I wanted to side with officers, but i feel now this demonic threat should have been taken out immediately.

[@Spooceaduece]

So true Mike. We love you brother. Real men like yourself are sorely needed these days... keep being that shining example!

[@saulayala4970]

I retired from Phoenix PD after 37 years, and I have some issues. Mostly worked undercover but I had the active shooter training. I took every training I could and I still teach. I never understood why so many cops hated training and only went through the motions when they did train. I can see this in the video along with the small department effect. The fact is the police are a reflection of society. Very few are actually mentally prepared to pull the trigger. Many are answer the radio pull a paycheck do the minimum possible and others are out looking for bad guys. I can see this in the video. There are no excuses. They let those kids die. I watched the video for the first time on your first break down and at one point I teared up. I also found myself screaming at the television. Fuck those worthless slugs. God bless you man and thank you for all you do for law enforcement and for your service. No excuses!! I know I’m not going to sleep tonight

[@shcdemolisher]

Agreed! Those abominations with badges should, not just be fired, but be tortured and executed for EVEN ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN! We as a society must change to one that punishes those who DO NOT PROTECT US! We are not meat for the grinder, we are valuable LIFE! If they can not defend life, then they should be removed entirely. I don't have much hope that change will happen, and the things that SHOULD'VE BEEN FIRST PROCEDURE SINCE THE FIRST EVER SCHOOL SHOOTING, be in place. The rate that tragedy continues to happen while those in power continue to ignore our cries for help, is a constant source of depression for me, and I'm only 24.

[@jmoliere1207]

yes most vets cnt become cops becuase we are to agressavie and unstable

[@jammyrick4087]

@@jmoliere1207 Obviously effect with your grammar stammer, Drain Bamage.

[@gtoron]

I see the exact same thing, these are not true LE officers, these are persons who are bilking the town, State, and Federal Govt. for a paycheck and all the perks that come with being in LE. If you want to get the real story, find out who and where they supposedly got their training from and who signed off on it, a pattern will emerge, someone got paid for doing training that they did not provide, and those officers were all more than happy to not have to go through the actual training, this was system wide corruption on display here.

[@gtoron]

@@jmoliere1207 All good info, my next question is, do the officers receiving the training get paid while doing the training? Are they compensated for any travel, meal, or other expenses related to getting the training? My point is, I don't believe the officers I saw in the video actually received the training they are alleged to have received, I base my conclusion on the fact that they did not perform their sworn duty, in the manner that training dictated they should have. I also saw what can only be described as a total lack of training in how they behaved in general, they all looked utterly clueless as to what needed to be done and how they should have handled the situation. Even worse, I see what appears to me, to be the willful decision by a huge amount of supposedly trained, armed and well protected LE officers to stand around and do nothing while innocent children and teachers are being slaughtered, that is not what they were trained to do. They had overwhelming numbers, one officer says he was in a position to take the shooter out, or at least stop his advance towards the school, clearly armed and intending to unleash some lethal aggression on one or more persons in the school. He radioed for permission to take the shot, and got no response, then failed to take the shot anyway, who among us would act like this? I assume getting permission is part of an established procedure, but after getting no response one way or the other, you gotta take matters into your own hands under the circumstances and stop him in his tracks, shoot him in the leg so he can't continue, or take him out completely to save as many lives as possible. There is something that we don't know about yet going on here, we may never find out because there is a massive coverup involving what happened in Uvalde.

[@Celestalis333]

Completely agree with you. Something seems really off about this.

[@raybravo3363]

As many people responding to this video… I too am recently retired, I’m 100 % in agreement with you. I was a active shooter instructor for a county police and academy. They should all be fired. I don’t want to beat a dead horse about everything they did wrong. I just wanted to say thank you.

[@deanlovett7985]

After watching the ENTIRE footage of the school hallway... every, single, officer should be serving life in prison for a myriad of reasons.

[@tig3rBite]

Dude took out 2 class rooms already before cops even got in.. bet you wouldn't step through the door either if you were in their shoes.

[@phoenixaries3147]

@@tig3rBite I have to ask, what goes through your mind, when you come to the defense of utter despicable cowards, who would stand around sanitizing their hands, as the screams of children being slaughtered ring out through the halls? A coward defending his own kind, is what I see. How many other situations exactly like this were ended because the cops (or even an armed bystander) put their life on the line for the sake of others? Sounds like you would have turned in your badge and hid under a rock if you were in their shoes, correct?

[@tig3rBite]

@@phoenixaries3147 100% you wouldn't do anything either.

[@hahna77]

@@tig3rBite not sure the community in which you are raised, California or Oregon maybe? But there are real men and heroes in my neck of the woods that would absolutely "do something," without hesitation.

[@harryhanson8214]

I bet the same people who support defund the police are the same ones on here who criticize their job performance.

[@personanongrata9289]

“Never outsource your own security “. Amen! I’m a proud Texan and I’d have never imagined endangered kids being so let down by so many Texas lawmen. It’s depressing.

[@vanderlarss]

YEP, A LOT OF GUNS IN TEXAS, HOW ABOUT COURAGE?

[@cloud8315]

Yes! I'm from Cali n we know NOT to mess with Texas for good reason! I have lots of family in Texas. Some in Uvalde. I have connection to 2 children senselessly murdered that day n there's NO excuse for the inaction🤬

[@stevescoville8465]

Proud Texan ? Proud Texan?? I wouldn’t claim that anymore.

[@cathystaerkel1833]

I won't ever say I'm a proud Texan again. So many shameful incidents in the past few years have completely gutted me. Abbott and his thugs care not about the citizens. Just who will fill their pockets. Disgusted and truly looking to move.

[@ni9274]

You can’t guarantee your own security, that’s why it’d better to regulate guns.

[@douglaskimbell6096]

There is video that was released that reportably shows the "husband" officer attempting to go through other officers to go down the hall, he is grabbed and pulled back and prevented from advancing.

[@mull1mar958]

As a former intelligence NCO and retired police officer I can say you were right on in your analysis. The first truthful commentary I've heard about this sad, sad situation.

[@76201tyson]

Jack over at Black Scout Survival has been calling it like it is from day one. Glad to see Mike is as well. I know others are not and that’s a problem. It’s blatantly obvious this response was bad all the way around. Thank you for your service!

[@rocinantae]

@@76201tyson Jocko Willink has called them out also. Good video.

[@thingonathinginathing]

Pog..

[@larryross1819]

Uvalde was planned! This shooting was planned by the sick, evil people that want to destroy the USA. This was not some random event, those kids were expendable as were the teachers. The police were ordered to do nothing, problem for the evil elites, they forgot to tell the Border Patrol. Look at the big picture, look at all the other things happening right now. This, like the other "Mass Shootings", is mainly to disarm the American people. The only thing that keeps the sicko elites from destroying the USA is the simple fact that so many folks are armed. We all knew in our gut that something was weird about the Uvalde shooting, right from the start we all felt that there was something more. God save the USA.

[@bombardier3qtrlbpsi]

ot should watch this!

[@russellgilmore9796]

I was a LEO for 40 yrs in a large city. We were very fortunate to have the best training , training aids and instructors in the Nation. In those 40 years I had 1000s of hours of training. The best training I EVER received was Active Shooter. If there were 2 or even just 1 officer on the scene and shooting was going on ; you moved to the threat to take him/them out. I cried like a baby when I saw my former LEO brothers standing around knowing they were going against their sworn duties and training.

[@OmarrMcinnis]

Amen brother... My family is all military and police. I'm the first in my family to go federal. It brings my piss to a boil just hearing those BABIES being shot. My training extends from martial arts, counter-insurgency, psychological countermeasures, and close quarters combat shooting. I've had the honor and privilege to train at SWAT. My training unit consisted of Mossad, GSG9, MI-5, MI-6, US cops, and Spetsnaz. You form a bond with people train with. But any Red blooded human being, in my opinion, would DIE so that those children can live. Training matters, but INTENT and WILL is the driving force. The WILL to act to protect the lives of those you serve and protect must be nutured in the next generation of police going forward. I can't sleep, I can't eat every time I think about how those babies died. Mr. Gilmore, thank you for 40 years of service. I'm so sorry that you had to see this. It haunts me and I wasn't there. I am so very angry about this...

[@jstegall44]

They should have adhered to there sworn duties. Not what some jackass CO tells them to do. If it's wrong or goes against a sworn oath it must be disobeyed or you are not a real man of any integrity. Men like the ones who stood around as children died are a disgrace. They are what is ruining this country. And this world.

[@neomatrixfree3627]

Your Uvalde LEO ‘brothers’ are pieces of shit. Gutless bastards need to die in prison.

[@cvx5422]

Sounds like the training at the LAPD. 2 LADP officers , fresh out of the academy could have taken that guy out immediately and would have died trying , that’s a fact, thank you so much for your service. ⚫️🔵⚫️🔵💙🖤💙🖤

[@waldroj01]

Police don’t investigate crimes they do what they are told. They were told to stand down and let the news worthy distraction and slaughter take place by the monster that is in power and authority. When cops start investigating real crimes people will have respect for them. The only criminals you guys go after is thugs never high level criminals. Mafias run the world and you’re all part of it.

[@JDangly]

As a police officer, I can’t believe this was how this played out. The response of just waiting in the hallway with more firepower than you would ever need to take down one assailant, yet doing nothing, is astounding. I would expect brand new cadets in the academy to have a better response than what we saw there. You have everything with you at the time of an attack to handle it. You can’t wait for innocents to die to get more prepared. You should have been prepared before that time.

[@waldroj01]

Police do what they are told. They all look around for an authority to tell them what to do. None investigate criminals on government they just take orders. This can explain everything that happened there. And everything that happens day to day in law enforcement,

[@ghostgracechillr9091]

Back the blue 🙃

[@andrewcarlson2178]

This actually sets a pretty bad precedent. If police officers are going to wait around for the perfect situation or are unwilling to protect the less able in society, then independent-minded citizens are going to start taking matters into their own hands. Possibly that could be a good thing

[@3CODKing]

it wasnt just more firepower too, they were waiting on a two master keys as well even though the doors were unlocked and a soul tried the handle

[@spencerwilliams8443]

Even if they were never "told" there were children inside they definitely heard the screaming and still stood by

[@angiebervinkle1575]

I think being so close to a open border they should of had armed guards

[@angiebervinkle1575]

It's a school of course there are students who else goes to a school that's the dumbest excuse ever