SUN HAVEN: the good, the bad, and the ugly

[@jalma9643]

The way that i see is that Sun Haven is like Stardew Valley with ton of revamp. Applying magic in such a unique way that you would like to unlock ton of spell that would help you in farming. One distinctive feature from Sun Haven is that i don't seem to find energy mechanic after watching Sun Haven gameplay so you could technically 24/7 work out without tired but the cost of this feature is taht the animation is so slow that you need to upgrade it or use spell for efficiency Other thing that i like is taht there is increase maximum mana/hp/attack permanently by eating food or drinking potion. The catch is its a diminishing return so that after ton of the same food being eaten it would give less permanent stat bonus. What i like is that it make the player engange in cooking more because what i have seen in stardew valley is that i would not cook ton of food if my cheese is enough to keep my character full. Ton of the thing have improve and provide a uniquely way of "Stardew Valley feeling" that i feel diverse into a new world. I would like to have a run in this game when i have enouh money to buy it in steam. Overall its a 9/10 game compare to "Stardew Valley type" game

[@marcaidenlao5764]

Your review on this Sun haven is convincing me to play. I play stardew valley so I think I'll like sun haven as much as it.

[@traceyxxrose7454]

2 months later and what are your thoughts on the game? I’m not sure if I want to buy it or not 🤔

[@ravenlydreamer6859]

​@@traceyxxrose7454if you still have doubts about this game just don't, IT'S A MUST BUY seriously all the content this game has it's absolutely amazing, the amount of hours I spent on this game were as magical as Stardew Valley, leaving other things in the daily basis just to play this game a little longer because I just couldn't get enough, there is some things Sun Haven does better than Stardew Valley with pain in my heart but I must say it, Infinite stamina, lots of more places to visit, pets, decorations, more objects to craft, use, expanded skills, items to use, 3 Farms, 3 Houses, right now the only reason Im not playing it it's because the lack of recent content updates, I think the last one was from july or something but I would comeback whenever a new updates drops so I can be happy again, because I have more than 170+hours at least that for me it's a lot

[@ravenlydreamer6859]

​@@traceyxxrose7454the only thing missing could be the ost in general, let's say that Stardew Valley OST is absolutely GOATED 10/10 while Sun Haven is 9/10 it's pretty good, but It needs some love sometimes, tho, some songs of Sun Haven are at Stardew Valley OST level of godly like almost all Nel Vari songs and some character unique songs

[@btiny101]

Loved the Review, i really do hope the devs open up the steam workshop for modders to create and help make future content for the game, dedicated fanbase always does really well when the developers are willing to give them the tools to make their own content for the game as well

[@morghoula]

People are already making mods for Sun Haven on Nexus.

[@EveeLover]

I've never played this game, and I might not now. The different farms and area requirements sounds overwhelming. I love the magical creatures and different races, though

[@WubNubDubs]

ik this is an old comment but for my personal experience I just simplified my farms and done muscle memory of it (with the fast travel tp system) and finish it before the in game time hits 11am, which gives me enough time to do whatever I want.

[@jackgrove4621]

I really like sun haven. In fact it was the first farm sim i got into because I was curious how people can like these games. Once I started, i couldn't stop playing. One thing sun haven does better than Stardew valley are the kids you can have. They are not just simple additions that randomly walk around the house. They have there own schedules, they play with the other kids, they go to the library for school, they comment on different seasons, and have both personnel and bulletin board quests. While they do have dialogue acknowledging seasonal events, they dont show up but the devs did say they plan to have the farmers kid be at the seasonal events in a later update. Also Kitty is best waifu

[@jeffmccaslin411]

Your review was great and definitely explained a lot of the game. With the three farms something you can do on multiplayer is split the farms between players. I play with my two friends, and we decide who's going to be at each farm (Typically depending on who we wish to romance) and that play will take care of that farm. We still get together for the events, goofing off or the new Battle arena but it's a way not to be overloaded with work and usually works for our playstyles.

[@helapinoy]

Perfect review, 5/5, would watch again. Thanks for the upload! Sun Haven ate up every second of my free time when my friends and I got into it a few months ago. Very fun but a lot of issues for sure. Since then I’ve moved (back) onto Core Keeper which I think you’d really enjoy!

[@shiny593]

Do you think Core Keeper is better than Sun Haven?

[@andrejz8954]

@@shiny593 Interested as well

[@Miirasha]

I've been super torn if I wanted to try this game out or not, especially since I am one of the rare folks who haven't played stardew yet oTL -- I've been seeing sun haven around alot recently, and there is just something about the artstyle, magic and mounts that makes me feel more pulled towards it than stardew. Watching this video was a huge help and I am gonna go for it and buy this game first before stardew (yey for the sale going rn). Thank you for the sweet and honest review 💖 maybe after playing this (depending if I like the farming sim aspect of it) I'll finally end up trying stardew as well, haha.. 😹

[@jessicarogers6474]

Did you like it?!

[@LunaWillow27]

"Oh, a review of this cute famring game I was wondering if I should check out, wonder what they have to sa--" >you can play as an angel Instantly sold.

[@nemofish3504]

My favorite town is Withergate. My nightmare before Christmas dreams have come true there. Lol But it’s true. It’s a lot for a solo player. I try to remind myself that the other farms aren’t as important as Sun Haven’s farm, so I don’t stress it so much. But yeah, it really does get overwhelming lmfao

[@Deadsphere]

It's a really neat game but the QoL issues just fucking suck for me. I don't see anything on Nexus trying to fix those issues and I really hope the Workshop opens soon to fix them, but I am having fun with the game regardless.

[@jackgrove4621]

sort of, you can sort your items into all of your chests by just being on the farm or in the building that have them which I love.

[@kcats115]

Recently one of my friends said to try out sunhaven with them. While, we were doing stardew valley. However, seeing the multiplayer issues that seems to be occurring and having no other recent news regarding to it. I’m still on the iffy side. The 3 farmlands and the lack of sprinklers, with the bugs of multiplayer makes me question it. Based on the video it would seem the story isn’t too much. Although the extensive skill tree and the amazing art seems interesting enough. Mainly wanted to see how multiplayer will play out as Stardew Valley have some issues with mp as well.

[@jackgrove4621]

The rain power sorts out the sprinkler problem and slime fertilizer keeps crops watered permanently

[@MivFPS]

I got Sun Haven and found this video by accident, but I love the structure and your way of conveying content in the review form that you do, excellent video. Love the style, and keep it up :) Now I know what to expect from the game going foward, as I only got 3 hours so far

[@MrGo_Go]

umis voice is so therapeutic 🤌🏻

[@aa-tx7th]

lol sure if you like an ice pick in your ears all.i hear is SSSSSS SS SSSSS SSSSSSSS SSSSS

[@Lexyvil]

And in-game dynamic currency exchange mechanic between each town would amazing.

[@jackgrove4621]

I believe they did this for the under water expansion

[@froggyfanatic-d7b]

I like to hunt for achievements on steam and this game has a lot. And most of them are perfectly reasonable. But. There is an achievement each for getting 20 hearts with each of the romanceable characters, like every character has their own achievement for this. Which wouldn't be an issue if you you could get 20 hearts with everyone but you have to MARRY them to even unlock the 20 hearts you need to fill and you can't marry more than one person. So you have to marry someone and then divorce them to marry another person over and over if you want all achievements (or you could make like 20 different saves I guess?)

[@theretrodragonyope]

The reason race may not be brought up, is that in that world, it is just something normal and not something focused on. At least, possibly.

[@e3.14c4]

This is the kind of game studio that I'd love to see branch out with the new dreams the aqcuired making the game, because it looks like the really stretched their legs making this so I am curious to see how they decide to take things if they have any plans.

[@liahbobita]

agree with everything. Love this game so much but theres just so many unfinished aspects and bad QoL that its just disheartening sometimes from what you expect in a full release. makes me lose hope if there will be a switch port ;-;

[@PranaySen]

what did you think of the music in sun haven? i find music to be a real important part of the experience, specifically with stardew-esque farm sim games. excellent writing and editing as always umi!! can't wait to see more!!!

[@uwumiYT]

gonna be honest… i played with the music off (；ꏿ︿ꏿ) i did, however, use sun haven’s OST in parts of this video and it’s lovely!!

[@shampuuhs]

1:29 i think there actually is race-specific dialogue(?) i played as a demon and i seem to recall darius mentioning it at one point, but that was the only time i think something like that happened, and i could even be misremembering

[@uwumiYT]

i recall seeing race-specific dialogue on the dev roadmap when i was making this video, so they could’ve added it! just didn’t recall seeing it in my playthrough :p

[@boobyslater9390]

@@uwumiYTrace specific dialogue has been there in several instances for a long time (Darius to Demons and Edwin the drunk elf if you’re an Elf). They’re adding fuller race specific dialogue in an upcoming patch.

[@destinyjewel2588]

Another race specific one I remember has to do with the early game quest with the dragon near the mines. But it's mainly one off lines like "A rock crushed my leg... oh wait" kind of vibes

[@The-Fouadcast]

I have over 500 hours on Stardew and at this point i think ive finally hit a need for something new....lookin like this ones next, thanks for the review 😊

[@CampyBiscuit]

This was a very good review. I don't think I'll get the game after all, and i'm thankful for that because I was torn between this and Fields of Mystria.

[@silvermoonnightkb]

And now they will add a fourth underwater area to the game on update 1.4, so I guess you were right that the game is unfinished, like literally. I do enjoy the game and running back and forth areas, but a fourth farm seems tough to handle.

[@ichigokage]

Thank GOD there’s not a new farm. I cannot comprehend why we don’t have sprinklers. We have Rain Cloud spell yes but automation is in every game and in this game it should be required.

[@jackgrove4621]

@@ichigokage slime fertilizer permanently waters crops

[@marisasomer5184]

not great? thats a ridiculous statement. i played stardew first and while it was really fun and a classic, sun haven is like stardew but with everything stardew was missing. its got magic and fantasy, way more customizations, alot more crafting and more crops to farm, more biomes to have a farm in and explore and people in all the different towns/biomes to get to know, way more objectives, more things to do, more complex festivals, better visuals, and not to mention still gets updated and is being worked on quite frequently so even more content is promised in the future. its like stardew if it had more depth. the skill tree is awesome and all the things you unlock and the museum its just all of the things stardew has some of but way more content with it and plus new things stardew never had.

[@uwumiYT]

a lot of that is subjective! my review is by no means meant to state objective facts--just my own thoughts abt the game--and sun haven _to me_ felt like it was rushing to be super extensive, but emphasized quantity over quality and was left without a strong foundation. i have no doubt that with tweaks & updates sun haven will improve overall, but for me, it left a lot to be desired ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i'm glad you enjoyed it so much though!

[@xiqikxx8967]

I like how it doesn’t have any energy ….i can mine all day without using any energy…..I played Fae Farm, I love the game but sucks that I can’t mine without running out of in game time and energy it takes and there’s no way to change to slow the speed of the clock

[@Curlyxtail]

I really enjoyed this video... I'm still debating if it's worth getting

[@Neekohh]

was thinking about getting this game bc i've never really played these types of games. and i mess wit tha magical fantasy vibe of tha game, preciate the review

[@librafrills2815]

I love this review, thank you so much. Well edited and really informative ! All i couldve asked for Would you consider reviewing roots of pacha?

[@uwumiYT]

thank *you*, and maybe!! i’m working on a few other videos rn, but i might check it out once i have time :D

[@greatgamingendavour]

The crafting grind is very annoying

[@SwedishThunder05]

YOURE INCREDIBLY UNDERRATED!!! Well done!

[@z_hange]

I liked how ambitious the game felt with how it had 3 different areas to explore but yes it did somehow feel like it was lacking a lot of things despite being immensely enjoyable. The bugs were also a bit of a problem. idk if they can still do something about the storyline and improve upon it, but I'd like to see more content even if it's already pretty big for a game of its genre. Also wish there was a way to teleport back home though I guess that could also be part of the challenge. Plus we have mounts and the jumping ability anyway. But yeah, same sentiments about the characters being at events even though they're not supposed to be there. I wish they only start appearing only after their storylines have been finished, but I guess that's part of the game they forgot to polish. Regarding farming too, idk if I just haven't explored enough but it's a pain to only have 1 seasonal totem available at the shop to prevent the seasonal pest/problem from appearing on your crops. It's tiring to deal with them especially when you have a large number of crops.

[@neveser]

Good review. Bad outweighs the good for us. Most likely not going to finish it. Very buggy, shallow, and tedious (no sprinklers!). Stardew Valley is really superior. Wouldn't mind finding another farm game. This one was not it.

[@cynic7581]

Honestly, I wanted to download this game though I think I would prefer to wait until most of the issues are fixed 😭it does seem very pretty but I'd prefer not to use money on a game that I won't like 😔

[@freekoevoet]

This video was so great yet only so few likes. Great review!

[@uwumiYT]

thank you! (◍•ᴗ•◍)

[@colegotelli]

I think you've convinced me to check it!

[@jhonm6347]

2023 was the year for banalazing farm sims

[@DesertHRO]

i'm uninstalling diablo 4 and trying sun haven now 😮

[@thewingedcheetahwolf2615]

Omg the different resources and crafting machines are so unnessecary and grindy and such a pain. When I was able to chop down trees in seconds in sun haven I would go to nel'vari or withergate and take years to chop down every tree or break every rock and if you want a barn to get all the unique animals welp sucks to suck bud you're gonna need to grind for awhile.

[@ims1n]

UMI BACK ON YT?!?! LETS GOOOOOOOO!!!!

[@pharrazo9214]

Her degree at work LETSGOOOO

[@uwumiYT]

gotta make this student debt worth it somehow

[@ribbonquest]

This game has been on and off my wishlist so many times. I'm kinda interested but it's a lot more expensive than "kinda" justifies.

[@ghastlyanarchy1720]

Well, at time of this comment, it is on sale now

[@MocanuAndreea-d4y]

Can you play this game with your friend, like we are not in the same town and I don t know if it s possible???

[@sososillya]

I might try this one. Thank you ❤

[@Jamafly]

I do enjoy the mods so far have helped quality life.i do hope that they implement eventurally.

[@traceyxxrose7454]

Was it dev patches/updates or Is it third party mods that you need to download and install separately? I want to play on steamdeck but have never installed mods for games on it before - though I know it can be done. TIA!

[@chaosordeal294]

One of the few games that I have quit just because it's an intolerable eyesore. Is it fun? Can't take it long enough to find out.

[@CHEEEEEESEWizard]

I think it’s much closer to Rune Factory than Sdv.

[@ALLISMIND]

amazing review! Now I wonder what is your fav Stardrew clone?

[@Kogami]

Stardew is a clone of Harvest Moon SNES and DS

[@Dicerox1]

One of the things that struck me the hardest with this game is that compared to Stardew Valley, this has a mobile-style design with a heavy emphasis on grinding and playing more than enjoyment. I like the game overall which I find very odd because that style of game design normally does not click with me at all as the only purpose is to have players play more and invite friends, buy currency, etc. It's usually only a bunch of cheap psychological tricks to earn money from players with no regard for their enjoyment and with the least possible effort. For now, it's fine but if one day a patch drops that lets you buy stuff like currency or animals I'll be uninstalling and never opening this game again.

[@TheDaviprata]

Comparing to Stardew, this game is good? It looks amazing! 😆

[@RiceHat]

W editing + i will buy

[@ims1n]

Amazing review. Never liked these style of games but watching this makes me want to give Animal crossing or Stardew valley another shot. btw: have you heard of Loftia? Its early days but I just saw it and it seems like its going for the cozy game feel.

[@uwumiYT]

i have heard of loftia and i’m eagerly anticipating its development!!

[@Kyleology]

Constant crashes ruined my enjoyment of the game. Its really unacceptable to release a game in that state.

[@ElianM-mn3gc]

this game look slike it has such a beautiful artstyle but the negative steam reviews make me want to not buy it. esp since many folk say it feels half-baked

[@leafymeat8829]

This game suffers from a similar fate as Starbound. Both decent games, with decent potential but they're just sorta unfinished and unpolished. I felt the same playing this game as when I played Starbound.

[@WaltSnider]

Thanks for the great review. It helped me choose to make the purchase. :)

[@Ckggg]

Is it good game bro?

[@reinerei8294]

I really like your voice❤️

[@michaelp1923]

It’s a masterpiece tbh

[@jasondinh422]

PG uberdanger

[@frankbailey]

Great Review! Thank you

[@Xanthosis012]

the backdrop arts of SunHaven is gorgeous but when I starts to sink in 2 hrs of playing, the arts details starts to bother me. Stardew arts are simple but modern. While SunHaven looks like old website pluggin games that you play as a kid on your Mom's computer. The crafting, quests and items a bit messy looking. And the game kinda throw you in the deep end with barely intro. Stardew valley lets you figure out that basic wood and stones are the foundation of the game and only allow you 5 parsnip to start farming while somehow hide the additional farming seeds at a single shop for beginners to stumble upon or getting letters about. Sun haven character sprite looks unalive or just not animated enough to look lively. Your character looks the same as in the character choosing menu and as in the overworld once you control him/her. Stop playing after 3 hrs and never look back. Too bad can't refund it.

[@maq3009]

Why do people think Stardew Valley is like this top-notch, ultimate top-tier game? It's just another repetitive cozy farming sim. That's it. The only reason I actually think it's decently good is because it was made by a single developer and that's really hard to do. Making your own quality game is honestly pretty hard, but it's not this amazing AAA game.

[@Cyberweasel89]

I used to adore this game. Spent 400+ hours into it and even bought the DLC to support the devs. Then they censored the women's portraits, didn't pay their translators, allegedly copied assets from other games, and revealed their pro-LGBT words were false and they were actually anti-LGBT in their actions. They lied to their fans only to censor them and will ban their critics across Steam, Discord, and the Subreddit for no reason.

[@konstantinos-iliasstrempas4594]

is it gonna come to switch?

[@itzgily4562]

I love kitty

[@Mvstix]

Great video!!

[@topquark35]

What I didn't like right off the bat was the actual graphic design? The characters are too small. And the font and formatting of the dialogue text makes it feel really amateurish. And for someone who has eywsight issues it's hard to read and has so much open space in the text boxes but it's obvious the devs didn't put too much effort into even this.

[@neveralone3044]

Same idk why but ui is veryy important to me in games. I wish it wasn’t but I hate when things don’t mesh together well or is too clunky and inconvenient. I also don’t like that the characters don’t have multiple portraits in diff poses or facial expressions. It would show more personality if they did

[@topquark35]

@@neveralone3044 Yeah. Same. And for some reason Lucia's portrait, which is one of the first things you see, really turned me off. The way she was posing and the expression on her face just looked...cheap and disproportionate. They used a lot of colors to make the game world seem good but the basic design was like it was copied off of some obscure MMO. Plus yeah. That UI was driving me nuts. The text isn't even formatted nicely, and that's something that's so easy to do. They probably didn't think it actually mattered, but it does to a lot of folks. It makes the game feel super unpolished and like haphazardly done.

[@OLBarbok]

Same, lack of animations, terrible sprites, disgusting ui, overall terrible uix makes me not want to touch it

[@trumplostlol3007]

Really can't compare a young game with an old game like Stardew Valley. Stardew has a very small map and the initial game only focused on the first two years making it a pretty short game. In fact, I mostly played only year 1 and get tired of it after year 1 very quickly. The addition of Ginger Island in 1.5 makes it look like a different game and does not add much to the game which is still pretty much important for year 1 only.

[@uwumiYT]

i agree that it's not necessarily fair to compare the two games (which are at completely different stages of "life", so to speak), but i mostly compare it because of similarities in genre between the two and the familiarity that many already have with stardew in general. i would also argue that despite stardew's initial release being short, it made for a strong foundation--it didn't try to do too much too early on, and allowed for good expansion down the line (which shows imo, considering how beloved it is by many today). on the other hand, it felt to me like sun haven devs tried to release their final vision of the game before it was truly ready, and thus doesn't have the same foundation to stand/expand upon. props to them for creating a massive game with lots to explore on (official) release, but it felt unpolished and rushed imo. to each their own though!

[@trumplostlol3007]

@@uwumiYT Sun Haven dev does seem pretty greedy making so many DLCs to grab people's money. But it is a pretty game. I don't know if I will buy it. If it is on good discount, I may. Or if I change my mind, I will buy Against the Storm. I am busy playing Cross Fire Sierra Squad a new game on PSVR 2 and No Man's Sky which had a new update that made it stunningly beautiful. Good luck on your channel. LOL

[@OLBarbok]

It looks like bloated mobile gane stardew valley

[@orion.6]

Stardew valley is a mobile game

[@lauriebcmn]

WHAT DO U MEAN WE WONT PLAY AGAIN FOAHFKABGKD

[@joycelynlightwood5880]

Oh God, I thought I was the only one who got turned off from the separate town- separate resources thing, as well as the non-existent incorporation of the character's race into the towns. It feels so grindy, exhausting and disconnected running back and forth in fetch quests between towns. Like, completely unrelated games, same mechanic ==> Bore you out and demotivate you so fast. It's stupid to be an elf/demon, only to be treated as a completely unrelated race in said elf/demon town ==> Then why choose "the race" at all?? Just say choose the occupation and be done with it??? Having spent 67+ hours into the game, I want to like it but ultimately, I can't say I don't regret my money spent on this game 😥😥

[@subjectnivleis7572]

0:15 why no rune factory ?

[@windwalker121]

Jesus, slow down.

[@zarawilliams7424]

Your complaining about stupid stuff.