V.Kosenko - Piano Concerto, Op. 23 (Nikulin, Rjanov) [Christmas Special No. 1]

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Seigneur ReefShark

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@_iakvb771
@_iakvb771 2 жыл бұрын
good Lord that cadenza
@daveluttinen2547
@daveluttinen2547 4 ай бұрын
This is a remarkable concerto! Why has it gone unnoticed? Truly a masterpiece.
@85vesti
@85vesti 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that cadenza!
@vicb4901
@vicb4901 Ай бұрын
an extended masterpiece
@alexbizannes7501
@alexbizannes7501 Жыл бұрын
This is a masterpiece that should be performer all in the great concert platforms of the world
@leoinsf
@leoinsf 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful piano concerto that deserves some popularity! It is so sad that Kosenko is basically lost to history! Thank you for giving people the opportunity to hear this gem!
@possisvideos
@possisvideos 2 жыл бұрын
this cadenza is unbelievable!
@bowerdw
@bowerdw Жыл бұрын
I agree with what was said some time ago in the comments, this is a jewel. I added it to my listening collection.
@alexbizannes7501
@alexbizannes7501 Жыл бұрын
This is another great undervalued composer Quite arresting music,very dramatic,technical
@ex867gahyunhan6
@ex867gahyunhan6 3 жыл бұрын
I love Kosenko piano concerto!!
@jovi1715
@jovi1715 10 ай бұрын
UNBELIEVABLE
@emilyhutjes
@emilyhutjes Жыл бұрын
You educate the musical world with these almost forgotten musical gems. Thank you very much. ❤🌷🌷🌷🎹🎼🎵🎶. I shall pass it on. (The Netherlands)
@baumois25ify
@baumois25ify Жыл бұрын
Très expressif. Musique qui m'apporte des sensations fortes .
@jjuuaannii1
@jjuuaannii1 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf si going on with russian musicians?!!!! Every single thing they make is awsome
@kayakeenut
@kayakeenut 2 жыл бұрын
Not Russian... Ukrainian!
@jjuuaannii1
@jjuuaannii1 2 жыл бұрын
@@kayakeenut thanks for the info, bro!!
@seigneurreefsharkscheapkno1262
@seigneurreefsharkscheapkno1262 2 жыл бұрын
Slavic composers in general are simply the peak of classical music in my opinion
@jamessv5020
@jamessv5020 2 жыл бұрын
@@kayakeenut Same but different, we get it. You all look and sound and speak the same. Like most Indians and Pakistanis and Bangladeshis and Nepalis.
@donnytello1544
@donnytello1544 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamessv5020 yo that’s kinda fucked up 💀
@larysagryniava555
@larysagryniava555 2 жыл бұрын
Косенко-це український композитор з багатою поліфонічною палітрою.Нажаль виконавець не відчуває цього.Дякуємо за популяризацію української класичної музики.
@darrig
@darrig 8 ай бұрын
Никакой он не украинский. Нет такого народа
@alexeirubinstein
@alexeirubinstein 5 ай бұрын
​@@darrigМожет, орков на болотах нет?)
@mckernan603
@mckernan603 Ай бұрын
@@darrig слава Украине!
@henrydenner5448
@henrydenner5448 Жыл бұрын
Omg I love that cadenza!!
@christianvennemann9008
@christianvennemann9008 Жыл бұрын
10:37 Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune
@kevycanavan
@kevycanavan 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the dynamic markings weren’t in the performers copies
@jmbechtel
@jmbechtel 10 ай бұрын
...the shade of it all! 😂
@maxwoefull3460
@maxwoefull3460 6 ай бұрын
Jajajajajajaj underrated comment
@donaldauguston9740
@donaldauguston9740 Жыл бұрын
This was very exciting. Thank you for posting. DA
@SeigneurReefShark
@SeigneurReefShark 3 жыл бұрын
Nikulin : I. Allegro - 00:00 Rjanov : I. Allegro - 22:25 II. Andante con moto - 42:06 III. Allegro moderato - 52:42
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@scriabinismydog2439
@scriabinismydog2439 3 жыл бұрын
AWESOME
@VanVlearMusic
@VanVlearMusic 2 жыл бұрын
28:10 ❤ 38:27 ❤ 47:04
@aeroslothy
@aeroslothy 29 күн бұрын
55:03 bro these 2 chord modulations are amazing, i wish the composer expanded on them
@aendru
@aendru 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for this gem! Merry Christmas! P.S. //actually, Kosenko is considered to be our ukrainian composer. His mother was ukrainian. He lived and taught students in Zhytomyr & Kyiv, so that's not a russian piano concerto :)
@konstantin1943
@konstantin1943 2 жыл бұрын
But he was born in Saint-Petersburg Soooo...
@anandsamuel1978
@anandsamuel1978 2 жыл бұрын
But the fact of the matter is Ukraine was part of Russia! There is no need to get emotional!
@aendru
@aendru 2 жыл бұрын
@@anandsamuel1978 anyway it doesn't make him not-ukrainian
@anandsamuel1978
@anandsamuel1978 2 жыл бұрын
@@aendru We all come from the same world and moreover music has no boundaries!
@viktoria.guitar
@viktoria.guitar Жыл бұрын
​@@konstantin1943самоідентифікував він себе як українець. За що був і переслідуваний в часи радянського союзу від таємних служб з Москви. Через це від сильного довготривалого стресу і помер. Більшість свого життя жив, писав, викладав в Україні.
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 3 жыл бұрын
Advanced Merry Christmas
@SeigneurReefShark
@SeigneurReefShark 3 жыл бұрын
Advanced merry Christmas :) Special uploads until the 25th!
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 3 жыл бұрын
@@SeigneurReefShark as if all your uploads aren't special 😂
@cphaoe2891
@cphaoe2891 6 ай бұрын
Such a nice piece. I think the reason it's not as popular is that the whole first movement is filled with high tension. Would be better if adding some silent moment
@owengette8089
@owengette8089 2 жыл бұрын
13:25
@bloba6969
@bloba6969 2 жыл бұрын
that cadenza...
@forta7353
@forta7353 Жыл бұрын
You dont like it or..?
@bloba6969
@bloba6969 Жыл бұрын
@@forta7353 it's really good
@forta7353
@forta7353 Жыл бұрын
@@bloba6969I agree its awesome
@maxwoefull3460
@maxwoefull3460 7 ай бұрын
I'd never heard something similar, how much power!!!
@duqueadriano0081
@duqueadriano0081 Жыл бұрын
47:10 59:05
@aeroslothy
@aeroslothy Ай бұрын
woah
@ConcordMass
@ConcordMass 2 жыл бұрын
16:51 is it just me or does this sound very sorabji-like? edit: this doesn't sound sorabji-like but still a based section
@rize118
@rize118 3 жыл бұрын
😍
@동_강
@동_강 3 ай бұрын
59:00 28:10
@r.i.p.volodya
@r.i.p.volodya Жыл бұрын
Relentlessly bangy!
@alexbizannes7501
@alexbizannes7501 Жыл бұрын
I thought Liszt and Rachmaninov were the last chapter on technically dazzling music but there's others as I see,with incredible imaginations and sense of the dramatic employing à vast pléthora of technical and textural devices heightening the sense of the dramatic and often very inspired in nature
@Pablo-gl9dj
@Pablo-gl9dj Жыл бұрын
You forgot to add instantly forgettable and void of emotion
@bringthebook6109
@bringthebook6109 Жыл бұрын
I've never heard of this composer before, but this masterwork is astounding. It may even surpass Rachmaninov's third piano concerto. He has late Romantic/ Russian feel that almost overwhelms you. I thank Revusky and Maiboroda for finishing this masterwork up after it was damaged.
@Pablo-gl9dj
@Pablo-gl9dj Жыл бұрын
Best concerto ever if you like relentless pounding with no memorable tunes. That is why we don't hear of it.
@aeroslothy
@aeroslothy 29 күн бұрын
@@Pablo-gl9dj true
@susrizzler
@susrizzler 6 ай бұрын
bro hameline needs to play this
@susrizzler
@susrizzler 6 ай бұрын
@marc-andrehamelin3304 hamelin you are summoned
@MichaelConwayBaker
@MichaelConwayBaker Жыл бұрын
Described as being "bombastic". The recording suffers from a lack of dynamic contrasts. There seems little recognition of the dynamics as indicated in the score.
@katrmior
@katrmior 2 жыл бұрын
Rebonjour! Cela fait assez longtemps que je cherche sur internet les partitions pour cette pièce magnifique (peut être avec un rêve quelconque de jouer ce concerto) mai je n'ai rien trouvé... Où avez-vous découvert les partitions ? Y aurait-il un moyen d'y accéder également ?
@SeigneurReefShark
@SeigneurReefShark 2 жыл бұрын
Rebonjour Katemior ! Je vais essayer de vous les retrouver. Envoyez moi un mail à l'adresse de ma chaîne et je vous l'enverrai. Malheureusement, je ne suis pas sur que ce soit légal de se les procurer ainsi, mais vous pouvez toujours les garder pour vous sans problème.
@maxwoefull3460
@maxwoefull3460 7 ай бұрын
How is the cadenza possible 💀💀💀💀💀
@erikrobinson2547
@erikrobinson2547 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where to find the full score for this? I want to play it but cannot for the life of me find anything besides the two pianos version.
@alexbizannes7501
@alexbizannes7501 Жыл бұрын
These guys are even more dramatic and technically dazzling than Liszt and Rachmaninov But Liszt and Rachmaninov are more profound ( though these others have profound moments too ) Also I sense that Liszt and Rachmaninov,like Chopin arranged the musical material into a more well defined format,so that one could sense a clear unfolding of the ideas and sense of direction,whereas these other lesser known composers tend to just let the music flow on a logically sequential way no doubt, but with less regard to maintaining a format though there are returns to the already presented material here and there, This looser format,bordering on extemporization, makes it harder for the iistener to follow and to predict where the music will go and hence to emotionally ride with the music. so to speak
@Pablo-gl9dj
@Pablo-gl9dj Жыл бұрын
A textbook example of how not to write a concerto. Maybe he wrote this as a joke. It sounds like it
@donnytello1544
@donnytello1544 2 жыл бұрын
i know the recordings old and this is a mighty work to learn, but these pianists are atrocious, the dynamics just bleed together and ruin the beauty and genius of such a pretty concerto
@duqueadriano0081
@duqueadriano0081 2 жыл бұрын
Nikulin's playing is great.
@Pablo-gl9dj
@Pablo-gl9dj Жыл бұрын
​@@duqueadriano0081a great disaster
@950name
@950name 8 ай бұрын
so many good musical ideas, but this concerto lacks form and is not as comprehensive and uniform as the more popular concertos
@alik1989
@alik1989 Ай бұрын
Could the description be changed, so that it reads 'Ukrainian' instead of 'Russian'? At least that's what wikipedia says.
@reamartin6458
@reamartin6458 6 ай бұрын
SubP,PP,P,MP,F,FF = FFF ok?
@МарияКириченко-л7з
@МарияКириченко-л7з 2 жыл бұрын
Запам'ятайте, Косенко український композитор. І радянська влада забороняла його.
@Par.833.
@Par.833. Жыл бұрын
Віктор Косенко не говорив що він український композитор ! Родився від в Петербурзі в Російській імперії.
@viktoria.guitar
@viktoria.guitar Жыл бұрын
​@@Par.833.Більшість свого життя жив і працював в Україні. Мати його українка. Місце народження людини не завжди означає походження, національність, і найголовніше - самоідентифікацію. Косенко, живучи в Україні, був роками переслідуваний від московських спецслужб. Що, врешті решт, і стало причиною його смерті.
@78625amginE
@78625amginE 8 ай бұрын
The concerto is all fine and well, but the pianist is awful. Might as well be a typewriter pounding away at the keys 🙄 lord
@kljjukva
@kljjukva Жыл бұрын
But this piano concerto is not russian, this work was written by a Ukrainian composer
@Par.833.
@Par.833. Жыл бұрын
Он русский композитор !
@David-_0
@David-_0 Жыл бұрын
Born in St. Petersburg. Back then the western part of the russian kingdom is todays Ukraine. So he was russian.
@sparko7902
@sparko7902 Жыл бұрын
@@David-_0he was raised in Zhytomir and Kyiv, and his mom was ukrainian aswell
@randomguy2426
@randomguy2426 6 ай бұрын
the idea of russian and ukrainian we had these days do not fit with the old people,all of them were part of the russian empire later soviet union, so its not like you could said this bassically they all are russian composer, however if you do not like the idea of that you could just call them slavic composer
@Daniel-pu6pl
@Daniel-pu6pl 4 ай бұрын
@@randomguy2426it wouldn’t be a problem if Russia’s actual territory were the same, but the fact is that many actual countries and their culture have always been there, despite of the fact that they were under the russian empire. So it’s understandable that generalising all the slavic composers as Russians is not as accurate, there are a lot of differences between them because of their influences.
@thaddeusdubois6209
@thaddeusdubois6209 8 ай бұрын
everything is ff and tutti. I like the concerto but it’s all too loud and every instrument playing all the time…….
@bradyredding1964
@bradyredding1964 6 ай бұрын
It’s quite obviously an unfortunate recording situation, everything will sound loud when there is no engineer to fix it. Get out of your basement and go to a concert hall.
@aeroslothy
@aeroslothy 29 күн бұрын
@@bradyredding1964 ​I understand the minor complaints but you shouldn't escalate his criticism by projecting your insecurities...
@petersimon5231
@petersimon5231 Жыл бұрын
It's a pity Nikulin made it sound like a very tiring tour de force. Is the piece actually a horse race? Aren't there any points of rest, some quiet moments in the first movement when it doesn't make my head throb with those full-blasted accords? Any balance? Is there nobody else who feels that the first movement is near ugly and nerve-wrecking to the point of being almost unbearable? The second rendition is only slightly better so I guess the problem was with the composition. The second movement is somewhat better and more enjoyable but there are also minutes of bombastic, harsh quality that don't sound good enough. In the third mvmt. the piano sounds more like a piano instead of an oversized drum but the orchestra takes over smashing the chords like the greatest thing in the world. It simply isn't. No wonder this concerto is out of the limelight. Of course it's only my opinion but history seems to be on my side...
@naphtanaptha
@naphtanaptha Жыл бұрын
absolutely agree. I haven't listened to the second recording, but the first pianist just continually plays forte dynamics minimum. it's really exhausting. I think the composition is very interesting, and the first movement holds up interest very well for such a long piece, but I agree, that it is just too much, too long and too loud. the audio quality unfortunately makes this rendition of the piece nearly unlistenable in my opinion.
@hektor6766
@hektor6766 5 ай бұрын
Piano as weapon of mass orchestration.
@ConcordMass
@ConcordMass Жыл бұрын
13:30
@duqueadriano0081
@duqueadriano0081 Жыл бұрын
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