Train GRAVEYARD | What Happens to OLD Locomotives?

Where do old locomotives and railcars go to die? We'll answer that question, and talk about the trains that have gotten a second chance in this V12 Productions Special!
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[@connieembury1]

I'm an older Canadian women whose family were all railway workers. I really enjoy your videos especially this one. Here in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada we have the Prairie Dog Central Railway. They run a beautiful old 4-4-0 1882 Dubs and company (Glasgow, Scotland) built for the Canadian Pacific Railway. My family had a connection to the engine as my Grandfather was a section foreman for CPR and my dad remembered the engine from his childhood. They also run an EMD GP9 diesel locomotive built in 1958 by General Motors. I love the old steam engines and have fond memories of the old diesel trains carrying grain to the northern Port of Churchill.

[@luckyguy600]

Both sides of my family were railway people. On the Alphabet Line From the Manitoba Border to Saskatoon. Both started with the Grand Trunk Railway but when they split it up one went with CN and the other with Canadian Pacific. This video sure took me back to when I was a kid, and old trains were very common. But everything gets old. Even us.

[@user-vh1uc6in7b]

14:45 Wow Locomotives is Norfolk Southern SD70M-2 and Locomotives CEFX AC4400CW NS AC44C6Ms.

[@MISCIFMAKER]

R.I.P. HOBO SHOESTRING MARK NICHOLOS AN AMERICAN 2OTH CENTURY HOBO LEGEND SHOESTRING HOBO . 🎉

[@marklammert5670]

What happened to shoestring

[@rustynail2205]

12:45 the GM Locomotive Group is where my father in-law worked in London, Ontario Canada. He would have been there when this unit was built. He was in quality control, and fixed electrical wiring issues. He said it was his favourite job. He retired as a GM employee before the plant was later sold and eventually closed with manufacturing going to the states. GM also had made city buses, like the one in the movie Speed, and 8 wheel military vehicles here. General Dynamics has long taken it over and is still in operations at the same location. When I was in grade school the GM plant celebrated 25 years and I went with my family. I’m now 51 years old so that says how long they have been in the community. Great video.

[@jacobrzeszewski6527]

I was gonna joke about GM wiring being terrible. But realistically, the British are MUCH worse.

[@michaeldougfir9807]

When I was a little stinker, my first word was CABOOSE. I have loved trains for more decades than I will write in here. So I thank you for this documentry. It did my heart good.

[@TheRedFloofball_Foxy]

I know someone in here is going to scream “TRAIN GYATT!”

[@johnnyeveritt5695]

In truth; I gave priority of recognition to the front-end of the the consist with my first coherent exclamation being that of * Choo-Choo; * whilst pointing and strapped into the confines a Kiddie Safety-Seat in the back of my Dad's Humber Super Snipe .... Apparently it brought Mom to tears ! It DOES tend to explain everything that followed after that ... ! 🤙🚂

[@RODALCO2007]

Brilliant footage and explanation. That 4501-steam locomotive is a beauty. Great that she is preserved and in use.

[@ericmason349]

It is good to see some old equipment recycled. When old equipment doesn't get recycled I can only think that management does not to put money into doing the right thing. It is more important to reach short term goals and get their bonuses,

[@everybuddy5924]

There is just too much old stock than what is needed or that can be used. If you had 800 old locomotives but only the need of 4 or 5 locomotives, what are you going to do with the rest that remains. Let it sit for 100 yrs? And in doing so you would need to create 20 or 30 more storage yards for the newer stock that is retired.

[@Biker_Gremling]

V12 productions once again delivers a cracking railfan documentary

[@jessicaames8095]

I give thank you to those who work on the railroad out there. I remember being a kid and my dad and I going to train tracks to watch a train. Come through.

[@GMCGUY-]

I can never sit still and watch a full video of anybody else's train videos on here except yours. You do a fantastic job something to do with the way you explain everything. Excellent job looking forward to new videos. Maybe do a video about Pam am railways.

[@revharrycwigmoreiii5787]

Thank you V12 Productions for old memories, and some new ones, Fully enjoy your Train videos, My location is along side Main 1 North/South CSX in Smithfield, NC 1/2 mile from my house. The heavy loads every once and a while shake my concrete floor, in my home, loud horns and an occasional Horn salute from passing Mixed Manifest to coal, to tanker trains. Trains have been my hobby since I was 5 yrs old and I am 72 now. V12, thank you again for posting this video.

[@official06MD]

GP’s, Dash-8’s, High-hoods, SD’s, SW’s and so much mighty machines, I’m glad their history is is useful, even they’re gone, but they never forget of how deep dive to the Electromotive Division. It would be better if they were able perseverance, like museums, or used for excursions, shortline or other heritage railroads, or maybe on static displays on roundhouses. Love ‘em all. ❤️🕊️

[@budlinton3313]

Totally enjoyed your video. I grew up in train town, Lima Oh. I lived at the junction of the Erie Lakawana, B&O, and Nickle Plate. Having the old Lima- Baldwin factory , NicklePlate turn tables, and passenger rail service stop on the Erie Depot at the end of Elizabeth Street. I remember the sounds of the trains and Whistles of growing up in the fifties and sixties. I love the memories you bring!!!

[@jdwht2455]

Interesting! My grandfather 'drove' steam locos for NY Central/Michigan Central until the day before he passed away from a sudden onset brain aneurysm. I'm not a real train aficionado but do find these videos nostalgic and fun to watch. Keep them going !!

[@PaganWizard]

14:37 I recently celebrated my 59th birthday, and this GWRR locomotive has ALWAYS been my favorite design. I wonder what one of these in running condition would cost.

[@paulkoza8652]

Charlie, as always, the photography and commentary and research were superb. Thanks!

[@v12productions]

Thanks!

[@billjames3030]

​@@v12productions Wow, excellent video of various generations of locomotives. 👍 train

[@Oklahomarailroadproductions]

@@v12productions I’ve seen a few of those KCS motors on the mainline before since I live around the heavener subdivision and I’d like to visit Atlanta and railfan there

[@billmorrison3714]

Nicely done! I was trackside in Varnell, GA when 10 of those ex-KCS SD70MACs rolled southward. It was a pleased surprise when they rolled past.

[@danzmitrovich6250]

Attention Saturday's market shoppers there is a bunch of very good part outs for locomotives and other parts to keep the other rolling stock moving as well

[@bengone3349]

Great video Charlie. I have seen other videos with acres of dead engines, an amazing sight. I has the pleasure of a cab ride at TVRR in the 90's it's something I'll never forget, the sounds, motions and sights along the way.

[@madison-6012]

Loved this video!! Wow so cool thank you for making it! Love your work.

[@basketmaker1]

Love the TVRM segment. When I lived in Nashville I was a member of TVRM. Rode behind 630 and 4501 a few times. Both Local Grand Junction to East Chattanooga as well as a few long distance excursions. Loved ever minute of them.

[@paul-morgan]

An absolute pleasure to watch your content mate. With a cup of coffee in hand on a sunny autumn morning here in Melbourne, Australia. Great work!

[@vsvnrg3263]

and a pleasure seeing the old melbourne trams near the end?

[@RobertBelt-x6d]

Sincerely enjoyed the show... Back in summer of 1964 I was all of 12 years old when my mom & I rode the train from Baltimore, via Chicago, Saint Louis, Oklahoma city, Amarillo and final destination Clovis New Mexico. If memory serves me correctly it was a three day ride with a lay over in Chicago. At that time the Miss USA pageant was in progress. I still remember seeing a group of the pageant girls transferring in the terminal. 'Boy oh Boy' what a sight it was for a 12 year old boy to see passing by right in front of his nose. The entire trip was a memorable one that will be in my mind for as long as I live.

[@mahogany3947]

Man your content is so cool I Love Trains I can't get enough of it thanks man

[@DanHPage]

Charlie, Great Video about older rail equipment and what is scrapped vs what is saved! Thanks for the NARCOA shout-out! Dan Page

[@v12productions]

Thanks Dan!

[@jamesmarlowe8231]

Thanks for the very enlightening video. So interesting. It is sad seeing locomotives being scrapped.

[@TheHXCfrog]

I live in a town that has UP and KCS lines and man those gray ghosts brought back some memories. That’s really awesome to see.

[@vernvernham9519]

Love your work only recently got into it but as a Canadian I’ve grown up watching trains. Would love if more people could breakdown Canadian engines,history etc.

[@davidfarrow875]

Just as in the USA, the locomotive and stock preservation movement is very much alive and well here in the UK. We do even have a few "Golden Oldies" that have made it back out onto the main line, and several old locos that have been massively rebuilt / upgraded including many from the 1960s. We also have a number of locations that well known for the breaking up of old stock, mainly around the city of Sheffield and Rotherham. But, for enthusiasts of a certain age, THE one that we all remember is the Vic Berry yard in Leicester. They used to removed the running gear from stock and pile up in a stack which was three or four locomotives or coaches high. The yard operated until 1991 when a massive fire destroyed both the stack and the business. It took over a year to clear the mess up and decontaminate the area. Another famous yard was Dai Woodham's at Barry near Cardiff. Almost three hundred steam (and 4 diesel) locomotives were stored there after withdrawal in the 1960s. Over the next THIRTY years, 213 steam locomotives were rescued from the yard and taken to preservation sites all over the UK with over 150 of them now restored to working condition. Just about every steam locomotive preservation site in the UK has at least one ex Barry loco, and often several.

[@petermarshall7005]

A great video very informative some of those stored locos would be snapped up quickly here in Australia by an ever increasing Short Haul Operators . Great footage of 4501 when I was driving trains I drove a diesel electric with the same number An Alco built here under license of 1800 HP .A great loco strong and reliable. I enjoy your work.

[@truckinpoppop6777]

Very cool documentary of old equipment. I always learn something from your videos!

[@rrelectric5159]

Nice video! You really covered a lot of topics and locations on this one. Good description of steam locomotive operations. Keep up the good work.

[@JEFF_GOLD95]

I’ve always wondered about the NPCU cars. As a kid I would watch them travel from San Francisco or Oakland along the coast through Crockett to Sacramento and always wondered why they didn’t look like other trains.

[@johnnydeville5701]

The Hobo Inn in Elby, Washington is awesome! They have cabooses and boxcars that make up the inn. We stayed in the family suite, which is a boxcar. There's 2 Pullman style cars that make up a restaurant and a pizza parlor. It was so awesome! Seeing as Elby is at the base of Mt Rainer, it's beautiful country too.

[@videonut11]

Very interesting, informative and enjoyable overall. I love this documentary a whole lot. Thank you, V12 Productions!

[@richardconnelly934]

Great video! Very informative. Rode steam powered passenger trains as a youth. Great grandfather was career MOW - started on UP in late 1870's, retired 1930 as branch boss on Pennsy.

[@v12productions]

Thanks for watching!

[@flkoolguy]

Just found your page. Fantastic video. I subscribed and look forward to watching some of your stuff. My grandpa started his railroad career in the maintenance yard as a teen. He then served in the Navy during WW2. When he returned from the war, he went back to the RR. He worked as a fireman, a conductor and eventually an engineer. He worked for a number of different RR companies through 40 years, eventually retiring in 1987 from CSX. He past away in 2007. I can't see a train and not think of him fondly.

[@d.l.f.6173]

Hung a a/c in the same model in a rock quarry, but instead of in the side wall, I pulled the left front window. Made a angle iron frame. And closed the gaps with fome bord. Also at the end of the engines life hade to start it after years of sitting. Found out that you don't tie the governor down to the handrail due to low oil. Smoked the alternater. Was a day I will never forget. Especially for my nefeuw he was holding the governor fist time of starting and the air horn valve was stuck open. After air come up I only could read his lips, l can't take it anymore. The horn was right over his head. What a day.

[@TonyTitleGuy]

Fascinating! I had an offer to go to a CSX RR scrapyard in North Carolina - near Charlotte, I believe it was. That was in the 1990's, I think; but I never got down there. Sorry I missed it, now.

[@jimratliff2753]

Very well done. Lots of behind the scenes work goes into this stuff. Extremely professional and detailed. Thank you for your service. I enjoy it.

[@OnefastAZfarmtruck]

I have some old recycled railroad track, sits on the back of the tractor as a drag. Works amazing

[@craiglacey9827]

Very nicely done! Steam locomotive #4501 has always been one of my favorites, and it was fun to see Rikki at work keeping the locomotive hot.

[@bennetts-revenge_2]

What a fascinating video! I really enjoyed seeing what happens to old unused trains. And all those locomotives just sitting there wow. Thank you for this video!

[@v12productions]

Thanks for watching!

[@adamlee3772]

Superb video, sending thanks from an Australian living in Ireland with extensive U.K rail knowledge.

[@v12productions]

Thanks!

[@4TheMotorist]

Good to see some of these old Engines being Recycled. Piece from here, piece from there instead of the usual " its junk, get a new one" G'day from down under Australia

[@detroitdieselseries5071]

Meanwhile you’ll still find many Soviet era locomotives in the former Eastern Bloc countries because they don’t believe in the throwaway culture

[@bahnspotterEU]

They also just flat-out lack the financial resources to replace them yet...

[@detroitdieselseries5071]

@@bahnspotterEU neither Poland or Hungary aren’t as underdeveloped third world countries

[@wmffmw]

While that is good from an engineering point of view and I agree with, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. However, They are broke and cannot afford to upgrade the rolling stock and take advantage of more efficiently operation.

[@Comm0ut]

What? Why do you imagine locomotives and rolling stock are upgraded at considerable expense by businesses which exist to be efficient? Why do you attribute running old junk to superior "culture" instead of the fact that those areas were economically drained for (many) decades by the Soviet Union which used their economic resources for its war machine? Trains are fetishes to a few but they exist because they are vital logistics systems and are modernized so they do their task better.

[@patrickrancourt4782]

Pffffffff Commies dont care about nothing

[@peteryokahui]

dc power was good invention in its time, now ac power is a moving power station

[@colemac4utube]

Meanwhile in Australia, there are locomotives still in service today dating back from 1952.

[@robby062]

There are still many legacy locomotives around in the US, but there were so many built and only so many can be practically saved. Google SMS locomotive roster; this NJ railroad company uses locomotives from as far back as the 1940s and even has an 0-6-0 steam locomotive recently certified to be used in revenue service.

[@buckyc.9069]

Was anybody besides me, aware that the engineer on Southern 4501 was following in the footsteps of Johnny Cash?

[@ConvoyCowboy]

When? Set a timestamp id like to see it

[@buckyc.9069]

Hey Convoy c'boy. Back about 1970sumthin when he did his "Ridin the Rails" video. Look f'r it. You can find it. About a two second snippet of it, was in his "Hurt" video.

[@me734]

Another great informative video V12, cool too, seeing all those old work horses repurposed for modern work detail.

[@JasonMyers-c6z]

Very cool! I used to fuel the BNSF locomotives at the Stockton, and Riverbank, CA. yards.

[@davidstark6507]

When I was a young kid I'm 66 years old now I started working for thrall car in Chicago heights building boxcars call cars and auto wrecks I did that for 16 years and then I went and worked for Union tank car in East Chicago Indiana and built tank cars for another 17 years and then from there I went to Amtrak in the Chicago yard but before that I work for progress rail in Bedford Park as a Carmen I was a boilermaker all those years so I knew the cars like the back of my hand Amtrak was a little different it was passenger but I stayed there for 13 years now I'm retired thank God for the railroads and railroad car manufacturers

[@margotishrn]

26 years old "end of life"... 😂.. Here in the UK we still run class 37..and 47.. Built in the 1950's-60's!!!

[@kennethfuller8347]

Excellent, informative video. You covered a lot of territory, and a lot of different equipment. Thanks for the great content.

[@PaulBarwick]

I did enjoy it! I learned a lot from this video. You did a great job!

[@brianbickley8368]

Great video! Keep 'em coming!

[@getinthevantim]

I will admit I was pretty surprised to see W class trams from Melbourne running in Memphis !

[@bkdexter79]

This was an excellent video! So informative and educational! Thank you!

[@v12productions]

Thanks for watching!

[@Go_for_it652]

Each generation has contributed to railway success .Thank you .

[@Evilgraph775]

That caboose that was used as an office looks like it was on fire at one point

[@chuxtuff]

That was such a great video of various interesting railroad things that I decided to subscribe!!

[@tylerg7567]

Love this ! Thank YOU

[@johnsadventures6783]

I was 4 years old when I first rode behind 4501. 4 generations in my family have ridden behind her. You can look at a video on my channel from 2001 when we went to Scranton Pa to load CN 5288. Two large cranes lift her, and the depressed center car is moved under her. 5288 was Mr Soules dream of operating a Pacific type locomotive at TVRM. Sadly his untimely death meant 5288 would never operate under her own power at TVRM. 5288 was sent to The Colebrookdale Railroad in Pennsylvania and hopefully will return to operating condition.

[@GAGE-THE-HOBBY-NERD]

😢

[@jamesmozley5682]

Awesome special. Solid work, sir!

[@v12productions]

Thanks!

[@uhlijohn]

Retired engineer CNW/UPRR in Chicago here and directly across the Indiana Harbor Belt mainline from the La Grange, IL EMD plant (which is actually in Mc Cook, IL, I believe) was a scrap yard, Pilot Brothers, that cut up old EMD locomotives just a few hundred yards from where they began their life. Ironic, isn't it?

[@ronaldjoyce7374]

Great video segment, I truly enjoyed it. Ron

[@v12productions]

Thanks for watching!

[@ronaldrondeau7870]

That was very interesting on how they reused old macheneries or recycle them. thanks waithing for more

[@ghostfox3560]

That part at 8:30 has me itching as the thought of picking off and pulling reusable bits and pieces floods my head. Could you imagine the potential for making rolling generators and other railway tools from those engines sitting there?

[@johnnyeveritt5695]

Howzit : Truly one of THE most informative / interesting retro-review videos I have enjoyed ... ! 🤙✊️👊💫💥

[@LarryAugsburger]

Thanks for your channel and all the information on these great machines and glad that many are being repurposed!!

[@gregorywells7905]

Another great video, Charlie!

[@v12productions]

Thanks Greg!

[@terryburgettburgett965]

I worked out of boaz thanks for this just waiting for the video on rail recovery

[@louiehoward4354]

Really enjoyed this video, educational!!!

[@v12productions]

Thanks!

[@scotabot7826]

Excellent video as always!!

[@v12productions]

Thanks for watching!

[@MrStevesTrains]

Great footage, great video 🎉❤👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Loved seeing all those great engines. Thanks for sharing. 🚂💨

[@wideslammer]

Interesting video. Thanks for posting.

[@d2sfavs]

this is a nice video from A to Z i always wanted a dynamic brake fan from an EMD almost got a job working on these units in my younger years.thank you

[@uhlijohn]

Rock n' roll was a real problem when I started on the CNW back in 1974. We hoggers were admonished to "pass through rock n' roll speed (12 to 22 MPH)" as quickly as possible to avoid a derailment caused by this phenomenon. With the advent of continuous welded rail or CWR rock n' roll became a thing of the past. As I understand it, jointed rail were mostly in regular lengths, bolted together, and the frequency of the cars passing over the joints where the rail naturally dipped caused the cars to sway back and forth setting up the conditions for a derailment. A bit of railroad trivia....

[@jimburig7064]

This is very interesting and well presented. Thank you for putting this material together and presenting it so well.

[@aceadman]

Great stuff. I love the relics! Thanks as always. 😊👍👍

[@v12productions]

Thanks for watching!

[@thickernell]

Very nice episode. Keep ‘em coming.

[@v12productions]

Thanks, will do!

[@w.rustylane5650]

Since I used to live in Jonesboro, GA, I model the Central of Georgia railroad. I wish I'd have known all this was in Georgia when I lived there. The Southern #4501 is my favorite engine and is the last of the MS class mikado's. I even have a model of it in it's Southern Crescent green scheme. Cheers from eastern TN

[@HarryPalmer-P.I.]

I didn't realize railroad companies will refurbish locomotives and put them back into use. I live in Eastern Idaho and spotted and older style in the yard in Blackfoot. It looked brand new, out of the box. A later news article confirmed that it was refurbished by the Union Pacific.

[@johnsmart964]

Thank you very much for bringing us this very interesting and informative video presentation which is very much appreciated.

[@DC4260Productions]

On the subject of recycling old equipment, I remember an old documentary about an ex-Canadian National GP9RM that was sent to National Railway Equipment Company and torn down for the frame to be used in a new Genset or something. I think the GP9RM's number was 4010.

[@v12productions]

I'd like to see that!

[@davidwarnick]

It has been my privilege to have ridden on both of TVRM's steam locomotives, left seat. Of the two, my preference is with the #630 (Consolidation), but both locomotives are fantastic. And yes, true to the lyrics of "The Ballad of John Henry", I stuck my "head out the window, see the drivers roll!"

[@NortheasternRailroads]

Yea NS rebuilds are the majority of the roster now but it’s great it keeps some of the old locos alive

[@CarlSmith-p2c]

Amtrak's Downeaster service (Boston-North Station to Brunswick, ME) has used the F40PH "cabbage" cars.

[@luckyguy600]

That was a really good video. Thanks.

[@v12productions]

Thanks for watching!

[@genej43]

This is a great video with really good camera work ... thanks.

[@NotDaender]

Were you able to spot ex-CSX 8595 SD50 when you visited Larry's? I know many B&O/Chessie fans are curious of its fate as it's the last locomotive ordered by the B&O before it fully merged into CSX. It was meant to go to the B&O Museum (it even had a laminated tag stuck to the side of the cab informing others to not scrap it and where it was headed!), but somehow ended up at Larry's.

[@gregwasserman2635]

An odd story for you...when I was still working on CSX, I took a train from Walbridge to Cleveland. Foamers lined up everywhere along the way to take pictures of our leader. My hogger and I didn't know why, so when we took our power back to the P1A in Collinwood we asked the roundhouse guys what the big deal was with the leader. Theu told us it was an SD-45 that had just been taken out of storage and was the last CSX SD-45 with the original prime mover.

[@kennyirish5021]

Nice video I really liked te behind the scenes so to speak. I find this more interesting than watching trains go by Thanks

[@v12productions]

Thanks for watching!

[@paulmiller5337]

Thanks for the great video. Very informative. I learned about how to operate a steam engine. Nice job.

[@v12productions]

Thanks for watching!

[@ravennajade3435]

Your stuff is very well done. Thank you. :)

[@ThomRealEstate-k1y]

Alot of old locomotives have ended up in Latvia Lithuania and Estonia . Often they have been reguaged to the Russian gauge. Several other former Soviet republics have purchased old GE EMD and a few Alcos to augment their motive power fleets.

[@Rick-sm5xf]

@22:22 I cannot help but feel the old steam engines are like living, breathing beasts even idling. (I wrote this before you said it... LOL) At our train museum in Essex, Ct they have some original refurbished US steam locomotives as well as some from China. They look like US copies. I figure China was still using them well past the US pulled steam engines from service. I wonder what kind of special inspections steam engines must go through?

[@ernestpolk9555]

Glad ti find your channel....I have loved trains my whole life...

[@marcdewey1242]

I like trains,right now while watching this,I hear the Louisville&Indiana passing through,about two miles from where I live.

[@TheAustinSubRailfan]

9:50 I hope the AC6000CWs are preserved. I'm pretty sure there's only 2 left in the storage line. All the others were sold away to PRLX most of them got scraped unfortunatly. Also CSX did run some old Dash 8s for a few years. But they're being retired again due to they're age.

[@kyaing9047]

the GE demo ac60 is at a museum

[@austintaylor7363]

I don't. Things were problem child's.

[@gregmusgrave6549]

Impressive footage to say the least, many thanks

[@TM-bk3ok]

the GP20D if i recall correctly is a Motive Power Industry (MPI) rebuild out of Boise, made in collaboration with EMD