JUMPING the Executive Train

[@Dnb_RailFan8698]

1:48 Did That NS Logo have a stroke or something? Bc it looks like it did

[@DairyNS]

This is very cool

[@williamschlenger1518]

Thanks for the video.Old passenger cars,way more class than new ones.👍

[@middpu_962]

3:06 I was over there with railfan max! Nice video!

[@AdaCountyRailfan]

It's always a good day when V12 Productions uploads a new video!

[@wythetrumpet6419]

Great video! NS really messed up big time when they got rid of those beautiful F units! They were classics!

[@wideslammer]

A very interesting video. It was diminished at all by not seeing either of the trains leaving town. Always look forward to your videos -- professionally videoed as well as narrated.

[@jamesbuckner4791]

The main line routes that they take It is very hard, Unless you have an offroad vehicle and have permission from the landowners, to directly followed as they head out. And for either route they would take they are doing a climb out of augusta.

[@trainfan4014]

A very interesting story v12 I really love it 100/100 I actually had that question to and you answered it. I love it! Thanks again for posting this!

[@Trains-With-Shane]

Very cool. I never knew you could jump a locomotive like that. I've only seen crews bring in extra battery packs, etc. to do so. But that's usually been in a museum setting, etc where trackage and likely running motive power was limited. I wonder at what point those special sockets on the pilots were added. and if they exist on a lot of modern locomotives.

[@jamesbuckner4791]

Helps when your running the locomotive without crew.

[@dangeary2134]

The “special sockets” are known as MU, or Multiple Unit cables. You can attach and link up two or more locomotives and run them as one. What’s more, you can “lash up” several, and manually “switch off,” or isolate one or more locos in the middle or on the ends. Even the lead controlling locomotive can be isolated, and still be in full control of the rest. As far as “jumping” a locomotive to fire it up, it’s done the same way as a car or truck. Simply put power to the battery pack, and crank the Prime Mover!

[@Trains-With-Shane]

@@dangeary2134 I know about MU capability but didn't know that the cables/sockets could be used to jump a prime mover. Very cool.

[@dangeary2134]

@@Trains-With-Shane those sockets can’t do that. The wires are nowhere near large enough. However, there is likely a capability built in to jump the units. Otherwise, lugging enormous cables a hundred feet to go between battery boxes would be a nightmare. If I was the designer, I would have cables already built into the unit, going to each end. A few feet of heavy cable would be much better than huge coils! I’ve done this to cars and trucks, where I can pull up to another car, insert a heavy plug, and have a pair of clamps to connect another car’s battery. I didn’t even have to pop my hood. Similarly, when a tension pulley decided to take a permanent vacation in my big truck, it also made the alternator and AC inoperable. I pulled refrigerated trailers at the time. I simply turned on the unit, set the reefer to run constant. It was a simple task to run a set of jumpers from the battery in the unit to my truck’s batteries. I could then continue down the road to a place for repair without paying for a tow. Admittedly, the tiny alternator in the reefer wasn’t able to power everything. The only thing that I absolutely needed juice for was the electronics of the engine. I shut down everything else, and had no issues. I did the pulley replacement myself, and changed out the other one as well. As long as I was there, I did both of the serpentine belts! The company never knew I was down! 40 minutes is all it took. I get that locomotives generate a lot of electricity. I also know you can shut down the main generator. So, it would stand to reason that there is a separate system for the prime mover that is not for the traction motors. I have never seen a 600 volt, 1800 amp starter motor!

[@kens.3729]

Great job, Charlie! You’re Always providing Plenty of Information. Keep up the Strong 💪 Efforts. 👍🙏

[@paulkoza8652]

You have one of the best rail networks on KZbin. Both the photography and the commentary are superb.

[@v12productions]

Thanks, I really appreciate that!

[@russelladams6148]

Once you find the news about 8099 being repaired and back on the rails can make a video about norfolk southern southern railway heritage 8099 unit getting back on track

[@GeorgiaStateRailfan]

Awesome video! Not really related to this video but I thought I would mention this, Norfolk Southern's Delaware full dome car use to be a part of Auto-Train Corporation's full dome roster before being sold to Western Rail Services, Chicago South Shore & South Bend and later on Conrail for their OCS Train (Which is how Norfolk Southern got it.)

[@DanHPage]

Charlie, another interesting video! Thanks for the look at the two executive trains! Very unique subject. Dan

[@v12productions]

Thanks Dan!

[@JohnR.1968]

Great vid, keep them coming 👍👍

[@espeescotty]

Neat to see the NS has a set of specially geared SD60E's for this duty. I didn't know that. I guess the debate over HT-C trucks being unsafe at passenger train speeds has long been proven wrong.

[@teddover7522]

I worked on the GARR in the 70’s. GARR office car Georgia 300 would be parked at Harrisonville Yard during Masters week. I saw where the 300 is under private ownership near Jacksonville. Ride in the 300 a couple times on the WRA/AWP inspection runs. What a beautiful car.

[@osbaldoquintana4918]

Csx train hits truck yesterday. In Rosedale

[@fluxthelycanroc9603]

Heh i got to take her out of augusta. Quite a nice ride ill admir even if we didnt make it to macon. But man those exec trains were a hassle for some reason. Csx wouldnt let the ns one run the wye till late in the day and the bnsf one.... well yeah you found out. They broke the macon crew for it and used us august extraboarders. Hence me and an extraboard engineer taking it. If im not mistaken he was the one working the ns one when you recorded it as well. And yeah they left out rather late we didnt hit the main with the bnsf one till 4am the next morning and the ns one ran later in the week

[@v12productions]

That's really cool! Those were some of the cleanest freight locomotives I've ever seen!

[@fluxthelycanroc9603]

@@v12productions me too. Especially the bnsf one. It was nice riding and looking back in a curve to see all those gleaming coaches following us

[@carrollcameron7472]

Thank you for sharing this. It was great.

[@NorlandBoxcar]

Really enjoyed this video. Nice footage and beautiful rail locos and cars. Cheers 🍻

[@johnparker7874]

Locomotives won’t start when the battery voltage is 57 volts. The BNSF train left early Tuesday morning. The NS office car train didn’t leave Augusta until the following Friday night/ Saturday morning

[@FatGuyInaTruck]

I live in Augusta, and ALWAYS forget that these 2 consists come down each year. Of course, as an Augusta resident I make sure to be elsewhere every year when The Masters comes to town...

[@johnalder6028]

Definitely worth watching ! Greetings from Port Saint Lucie,Florida!

[@JaedensRailfanningProductions]

One question tho, why does NS 7034 Have a camera inside the cab??

[@jacobdubielak]

Probably to keep the crew members safe

[@RDC_Autosports]

2:24 next time do the crossing blow with your horn behind him 😂😂😂 😁

[@jacobdubielak]

That would probably scare the heck out of the driver

[@Greatdome99]

Santa Fe's William B Strong (one of the car names) is William Barstow Strong, chief engr for the Santa Fe and namesake of the town of Barstow (major ATSF terminal in So Cal).

[@sernajrlouis]

I regret never railfanning in Augusta, Georgia when I was stationed at FT Gordon. 😢. Great video

[@gregorywells7905]

Another great video, Charlie. Your videos are finest kind. Hope you'll be able to make it to the 'Celebration of the Authentic Car' event at the Southeastern Railway Museum on May 20. Unfortunately, Paul M. has a conflict and can't be there.

[@v12productions]

Thank you Greg!

[@Railfaning_With_Brantley]

I got to experience the coaches because I rode behind N&W 611 on its inaugural run back to Roanoke

[@pqhkr2002]

5:07 Never get tired for the revup sound of 710.

[@v12productions]

Same here.

[@csxnstrainman]

It was nice to meet you that day! The BNSF OCS left around 4-5am the next morning and ran via Columbus, GA and the NS OCS stayed in Augusta till Friday.

[@v12productions]

Nice to meet you too!

[@BNSF1458]

Pretty cool operations there, well done!

[@Moxie1213]

I've recently gotten back into my train addiction, you and AmtrakGuy365 helped me to get back on it. Thank you!

[@wmwho]

When I was very young I got to ride along on a service truck that went out and used its generator and arc welding equipment to jump start a locomotive. This was way back in the 1970's. Watching one of these beasts start up in person is quite an experience.

[@TroublesomeSlateTruck]

Great Job.

[@raygottschall9101]

I’ve done this soooo many times during my career at the RR. It’s typical for the cells to drain while setting with the engine dead.

[@johnparker7874]

Nixon Yard is down by the paper mills and Bush Field Airport. The NS office car train was in NS’s Augusta yard. Augusta is the only place that I know of where the yards both have the same name. Both NS and CSX call their respective yards “Augusta”.

[@THE_IRON_HORSE]

Very nice documentation as alwasy my man, that's one thing about freight railroad ocs or passenger trains tho, there something to behold but you really gotta capture it because you may never see it again

[@pruittiii]

Augusta never disappoints, be it trains or golf. Great video, Charlie. I believe there is still some street running in Columbus, GA.

[@SD40Fan_Jason]

The Brickyard local serves the Alabama State docks and then the Mahrt Turn which serves the paper mill at the end of the line there on 9th St. I believe the Gasoline plant down by the convention center closed, they were getting Ethanol cars when I was there 12 years ago. You would have gotten to see a train shoving down 6th st. For that one. But a total of 4 trains daily M-F and then 2 trains a day over the weekend on 9th st.

[@CryxbabyxGina]

I did see this BNSF passenger train in LA Commerce

[@johnwatson8820]

brilliant reporting as usual. greetings from suffolk uk i myself model HO gauge norfolk southern intermodel layout based loosely on rutherford yard PA. stay safe best wishes!!

[@sweynforkbeardtraindude]

Good stuff my man

[@NSCSXRailfan457]

Nice! I got to explore the car thats at the end on Sunday before it left.

[@robertchapman2368]

I got to see the bnsf executive train in school i though it was a normal train but then I seen the cars my school is near a bnsf yard

[@AntFlynn]

Your footage is such great quality

[@v12productions]

Thanks!

[@southmassrailfan]

I would love to see the 60e locomotives for the OCS repainted in the same livery as the coaches. Imo that would look great!

[@RFMCabooseNP1713]

Great catch. Really cool.

[@railfanrahn]

Great Video!

[@brooklynparker182]

I didnt know you could even jumpstart locomotives. Awesome

[@rmaxproductions4568]

It was so great meeting you that day and I hope to see you again very soon!

[@ericmason349]

Great video as always.

[@travishurd7619]

It was cool when the OST came to our yard in seattle, we had too lock, flag and bolt out the switch, they had it refueled while we filled the water and DEF for the generator, most be nice.

[@SD40Fan_Jason]

Top notch video, thanks for editing and sharing! Also if you've never seen it done before a regular pair of jumper cables is all that's needed if they can reach from battery to battery. There's 8x 8-volt batteries, 4 on each side. They provide the 64-74v DC needed to operate the starter and low voltage accessories. Both terminals can be accessed beneath the gangway on the nose in front of the door on older engines. I had to do it a few times myself on the GP30 in our yard in FL because the owners were too cheap to maintain it properly. And since there was no Law that said you could haul dead batteries around in your locomotive that's what we did for ages...

[@pqhkr2002]

I was about to ask about voltage. What type of battery? Regular starting or deep cycle?

[@SD40Fan_Jason]

@pqhkr2002 the kind that requires a forklift to move. They are 12-volt cells but they are about the size of a party cooler

[@pqhkr2002]

@@SD40Fan_Jason I saw a battery the similar size in a used battery shop. It was a 200AH deepcycle.

[@SD40Fan_Jason]

@@pqhkr2002 search locomotive battery because the ones we used were looking like about 850Ah

[@pqhkr2002]

@@SD40Fan_Jason Wow, that's big. So the one I saw was not for locomotive. How much CCA? 4000A? I find 3000A from a 560AH unit.

[@jerrysinclair3771]

Another informative video. Thank You.

[@CPAlburtisRailroader]

I heard no mention of the CSX ocs. I happed to catch it by accident leaving to the east. I paced him for a number of miles, before leaving it behind at a signal for the diamond in Fairfax, SC. I’m not from the area, so I had no idea. Seemed to be tacked in the rear of a road freight. No idea on a symbol or destination.

[@NSCSXRailfan457]

It was probably M690, since he bought in the OCS cars. Or M691 as he bought the cars back to Waycross.

[@SMichaelDeHart]

Wasn't CSX OCS on site too??

[@K-Effect]

That is a classy set of F units

[@jamesdupuis8066]

If you ever head out to North Carolina you should take a look at the only fully functional Spencer repair shop in Salisbury North Carolina

[@williamschlenger1518]

Old Pennsylvania railroad red👍

[@SouRwy4501Productions]

I actually have an HO scale model of one of the Norfolk Southern f9phs used on the OCS train.

[@owenwoodall5642]

Growing up my grandparents house was close to where CSX would park their OCS for the tournament. Every year we would go see the train and walk by the cars.

[@jurassicrailfanner6984]

You should go to Folkston Ga and Cordele Ga to railfan

[@v12productions]

I've been to Folkston, but I definitely need to check out Cordele next!

[@O-PAC]

Those SD60Es are hideous. Good video tho! Pretty neat to catch OCS trains

[@TravelingConductor]

So some info for you, the yard you were looking at is Augusta Yard on Glass Factory Road. Nixon yard is further south next to the airport. Nixon is just a switching yard and no mainline trains stop there

[@v12productions]

Thanks! I'll correct that.

[@ghostgarden8032]

Just look how pretty painted and washed, and spit shined , those locomotive's are for all those VIP executive's

[@usa_rail_productions]

Awesome video 😊

[@budman1072]

Awesome videos one question did u ever ride in a locomotive

[@markfisher1392]

BNSF's ES44C4's were "supposed" to reduce maintenance costs by having only two traction motors on the two outside axles on each truck, with the center axles being idlers. You'll notice rigging on the center axles to lift them (it looks like a fourth brake cylinder, lower than the other three) thereby putting more weight on the other two axles when additional tractive effort is needed. The theory is that most of this model locomotive's time would be spent on mild grades at higher speeds, rather than heavy puling on steeper grades and lower speeds. The loco with all powered axles has more total tractive effort at slower "lugging" speeds due to the diesel producing more power than adhesion capabilities of four axle locos of the same horsepower. At higher speeds, the advantage of the additional powered axles goes away (that's why passenger locomotives are still predominantly four axle designs rather than six.) I have heard that many engineers complain about how "slippery" these locos are when pulling heavy loads, even when the lifting mechanism is engaged. From a traffic management perspective, I think it would be a pain to keep these C4 models segregated to territories with milder grades or shorter consists. As for reducing maintenance costs, it remains to be seen. Having them on OCS duty does seem like an appropriate use!

[@ManiacRacing]

I always dreamed of having a private train when I was a kid. It's on my bucket list if I ever hit the lottery

[@NSCSXRailfan457]

Per correction, thats Augusta yard, not nixon, Nixon yard is near the Augusta Regional Airport

[@dalea.8233]

I learned what OCS means today. I'll be paying attention next time a loco and I cross paths.

[@Retired88M]

Those NS engines look really good when they’re washed and polished I don’t know why they can’t wash them at least when they go in for a service

[@Isaac_Railfans]

You should go to hub city on Saturday if you want because it’s a great railfan spot

[@texasandpacific610]

How come NS got rid of the F-units?

[@andre-n2jdh]

NS, CSX and Conrail are the same company. Depending on location, NS or CSX has priority rail.

[@alexander1485]

I forgot where but theres a place where CSX trains/light engines have to stop for traffic lights too lol

[@jacobhildreth414]

I worked for a shortline that ran gp38’s and old f40’s. The batteries in those died all the time and they had to be jumped constantly.

[@falconseyeaerialservicesll8176]

Hi Charles, so my suggestion is whenever u come across very unique cars like for example the full length 3:39 dome car, please do not edited it too soon. Give us ur fans who doesn’t always have access to certain locations like train yards or living in areas where no train activity. Leave camera on unique car a little longer and don’t be afraid to pan around with the car in motion. That will give us railfans more time looking at the beauty of the cars. Thanks.

[@briantofflemire7056]

Do you know when Norfolk southern would have stopped using the custom f units on their OCS?

[@v12productions]

I believe the end of 2019.

[@everettrailfan]

Hey, I caught the exact same BNSF consist back in March up here as the O-SSEWHI at Snohomish, Washington, it's actually my profile picture!

[@Greatdome99]

It's back over Stevens in June 2023.

[@everettrailfan]

@@Greatdome99 Oh, can't wait!

[@steverudder3321]

The filthy rich boy$ toys! 🤔I don't recall if Thurston Howell III mentioned owning a railroad?

[@schrap72]

Wow....❤

[@richardjulien8745]

Hi Charlie,woul you mind telling me if the railroad companies still using the dwarf signals in north america ... big thank.s and keep the good work from a subscriber in Canada.

[@SD40Fan_Jason]

Dwarf signals are typically placed in a location where a train is entering a CTC block from a dark block. Yes they are still heavily used

[@JulianWatsonThe400]

Cant believe it's been 7 years since those Augusta videos.

[@davidcates365]

Where are the F units now, does NS still own them or who do they belong to now??

[@mason7024]

They were auctioned off. An A unit and a B unit went to the Reading and Northern and the other A and B went to a tourist line.

[@dennispersson9466]

Great Managers, ALWAYS Know, their "Bread-and-Butter", is the working cars, the 'Exec' cars, are for show purposes. But hey, pretty, is nice to see, too!

[@MokkaMatti]

Oh, I'm sure Norfolk Southern would NEVER let their executive train(s) derail like all those countless freight consists of theirs that have so much difficulty staying upright and on the tracks.

[@SoFlorailfanner108]

This is nice

[@jjrailfan2024]

I have an HO version of Delaware

[@David-yo5re]

They could have just given it a push and let the engineer pop the clutch. 🤣

[@grandtrunk5416]

2:06 sns, lkorfolk ernsouthe?

[@amandamcfarland9460]

I'm all so a member of this video

[@Bnsfmodler]

Do you do model railroading

[@CRP7609]

Yes he does I think you have to dig through some of his content to find it

[@gloria6229]

#9027 in the street? That's cool.

[@johnsnow1355]

I have seen this in person. Especially when they run out of fuel

[@mijicalmagiemance8014]

Do you have ho scale trains

[@v12productions]

I used to have a layout. No space for it now, unfortunately.

[@jobhowie1110]

i have that dome as ho scale model

[@johnwesleywilliam7575]

Yesterday a train derailment happened in Millen ga come and check it out.

[@Amigafur]

I rather like the SD60E's Crescent Cab. I think it's got a neat look